Focal Stellia _(Z Reviews)_ "Baise-moi et prends mon argent"
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But there isn't any demonstrable evidence of burn-in.
It's funny when Zeos said "this is the Bentley of closed headphones", cause now Focal has released a headphone in colab with Bentley. Now THAT is the actual real "Bentley of headphones".
Daft Punk are French
Greatest musicians ever
And here, I thought they were simply HuMaNS...
@@joedominic9848 nope they are french
Seeing a french title, I thought "here we go, Ytb making random title translations again..." , & then...
Wow, you really hyped that unboxing. Can't wait to see it next year...
ua-cam.com/video/ZtPmkGBZMKg/v-deo.html BLAMO
@@ZReviews Yea, I know. Punctual when it matters most, to humiliate me. 😥
I own the focal clear for about a year now but i tried this on a store and started looking for a way to get it there is an emotion that this headphone creates specifically in the midrange that i haven't heard before
True
I love Z's reviews because he's expressive and emotional about headphones, he has a wide throw of feelings and expresses them often comically. But I think his "pre" break-in listen to the Stelias may have just found him in a lesser mood if the post-break-in performed much better. Most stories of "break-in" is borderline myth, any actual break-in should be accomplished before the drivers leave the factory. So, unless Z got a pair that didn't get the post-production attention it needed, I'd say improvements were more of a psychoacoustic phenomena than physical.
As someone who has owned a couple Jaguars, they actually do come with a handsome leather case that holds the owner manual and valet key. The older models came with a cool Jaguar pen also.
The Stellia's are the best Headphones I've ever heard....and I'm running them on a Loxjie Balanced tube amp and Geshelli Enog2 and it sounds glorious
@neizetetz no way. stellia broken in is by far the best closed back experience, maybe a zmf closed comes close
Do they clip at high volumes or with songs with tons of subbass ?
Looking forward for a Elegia review if you get the chance.
They have the same internal structure with a aluminium magnesium driver instead of pure berylium.
If they can deliver 90% of the performance for more than 3 time cheaper it could be a killer close-back.
If they are 70 percent as good I'd buy them
Apparently they're detail monsters too.
I have the elegia and they are incredible (especially for the deals you can find around) I haven't heard the stellia to compare the elegia to the stellia unfortunately. That said, the elegia sound as open as my hd650 but the detail across the entire frequency range is sooo much better and the bass extends far deeper. The hd650s are much more forgiving and relaxed for more busy/poorly recorded tracks. I will certainly be keeping both but 90-95% of the time I reach for the elegias.
They are really bad
Well now I am really excited for you to get your hands on the Denon D9200 and pit them against these.
The reason why the Stellia sounds bad with that Qes labs amp is that it's a current-drive amp with 164 ohm output impedance. Focals need amps with low output impedance - especially the Clear. When you use them with a high-z output amp, the bass becomes bloated. Hence the Beats by Focal comment.
The reason why these don't get along with some music but sound great with other music is that there is a peak in the frequency response at around 6khz. If your music has been de-essed properly in mastering, then it'll sound fine and you won't notice problems, but if it hasn't, it'll sound sibilant and sharp. The (partial) solution to this is to use a good EQ and drop that peak down, which smooths things out considerably, though some treble sharpness and a slight metallic character will always remain. Just the nature of the beast when it comes to Focal drivers.
The beryllium drivers really do have amazing resolution and are a little bit less colored. The aluminum-magnesium ones aren't quite there techincally though, at least to these Stax-spoiled ears.
So ironic that you're comparing to a Bentley considering the Focal Radiance about to come out.
A little good old tip, never leave the headphone pads against each other after use it on your head an do not use a headphone stand that makes them narrower, just angle them out from each other,when you can, as they are apart. Then the pads lasts longer and do not lose the stiff viscosity so quickly,but MR Z dont care becaus he have a ton of headpads in reserv ;)
They look like headphones that Spider-Man would wear. :)
Loved your review. Everything you said here rings true. Love mine.
17:51 A year later "Radiance"...
Exactomundo! That is exactly what my conclusion was when I listened to them!
These are the best sounding Focals out the bunch.☝ One of the best cans I've heard period. They are artfully executed and most appealing to look at and hold.
It's the $3k sticking point that will keep it off most ears. Including my own. For half the price for Stax L-700s I won't miss the Stellia. For the Stellias are not 2X better than the Stax. Diminishing returns and price Vs performance gets lost rather quickly at the $3000 price point.
Thanks for the video! You "hit the ball out the park" once again!🤜🤛
Verite closed exists.
@@barchetype6430 Is it better than Stellias ?
My pair of Focal Elegia need that much break in also. I love em. And Korn sounds great on them with the Magnius Modius balanced stack
ethr95awd Good to hear. Im thinking of getting the Elegia. The Elear are amazing but I want to try something high end and closed. I wasn’t fond of the Fostex TH-X00 build quality but the Focal headphones are built the way headphones should be built.
Which tubes are in your darkvoice?
"Fuck me and take my money."
Finally, my 4 years of high school French is paying off.
Probably one of the best closed back ever tbh.
Wow, John Yang liking something. A rare site indeed.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 Well, I'm an honest guy. It's really expensive tho.
I've listened to Album's with Stellia's that I have heard 100 time's before and it felt like the first time..... I'm so sad that in a few days these go back.....at $3000 they might be a bargain
Love my focal stelias , sold utopia and kept these beauties, running of Chord Dave. It sounds fantastic to the point that I sold Utopia and only kept these .
I have these and i love these, price no object. I traded them with Hifiman HE1000 V2 which were good but built quality and value for money NOOOO. I also bought woolen head band cover to protect leather:-))). I use them with Forza balanced cable with furutech connector.
ilove my stellias but i also love my hE1000 V2, a l very different experience
I was watching a review from headfi, and the focal representative that the headfi host was interviewing, said that the support mesh for the driver (near the base of the driver) needs around that 100-300 hour 'burn-in' you mentioned. So that supports the claim that burning the set in will help the sound.
If this is so...
Why dont the "burn-in" the Headphones at the factory?
They are expensive enough, so why would I want to break them in for nearly 2 weeks before the sound "as they should"...
It would add to the cost of already pricey headphones . There are some companies that offer to burn in gear for you , there's one in UK called "future shop" that offer free burn ins for cables and whatever you buy off them.
I hope Monoprice will send you their new stuff. Three new planars that all look more promising than the M1060s.
Where have you found that info about new upcoming headphones from Monoprice?
@@kristoffer8740 I saw a comment on some forum about new Monoprice stuff. The new models are the M570, M1070, and M1570.
The THX AAA 887 fully balanced amp from monoprice looks like it could have potential
I have both and Utopia is better than Stellia. I can't understand this thing against Utopia, I think it's the best headphone I've ever heard but it needs good amps like Feliks Euphoria and clean DACs. It's expensive but it's so much fun that it's worth it and lasts for years. Stellia is also fantastic and has a sound that is detailed and revealing and at the same time relaxing because of the bass boost, but I almost always use Utopia unless I'm in a noisy environment.
Will there be an Elegia review?
I second this request!
If someone throws it at me. Yes.
@@ZReviews i own it. I'm European though...
vincenthusvh How do you like them? I love the Elear but want to try something closed back and just as good. Maybe better?
Focal Stellia vs Sony Mdr-Z1r which is better?
If only Hifimans were built like these...
THIS. Friggen HiFiMan's the reason I can never comfortably buy a Fiio product, cuz they're both owned by the same company (Nt Global), and a dude I saw on the internet who owns a hifi store ordered a pair of Susvaras (6. Thousand. Dollars.) he knew he'd mainly use as an exposition piece, since, let's be real, who the hell just shows up and buys headphones for 6 thousand bucks? Well, in the case of the pair this guy ordered, the answer is absolutely no one of sound mind, because they ended up having two left drivers.
@@Krankynator How can the quality control be so bad on a 6000 dollar item?
"Baise-moi et prends mon argent" title spelling correction, done. (tout le plaisir est pour moi)
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I think break in is required for all Focal headphones, and tubes. Mine have gotten much better with time.
'100h of break in ' I dont believe in that because physically it wont change anything inside of the headphones 🤨?!
Any dynamic driver can benefit from being worked in. You have flies, suspension compliance’s that are mainly responsible. I don’t believe it has anything to do with voice coils. Many high end audio manufacturers in the home audio and car audio segments DEMAND that their speakers are not run full tilt for a significant length of time before full performance is possible. For subwoofers full parameters don’t arrive until several hours of operating time. I’ve heard it myself and so does every other person that deals with car and home Hi Fi on a daily basis. Not sure why there’s such a divide in the headphone community with burn in. However MANY people that speak against it are simply PARROTING what they’ve heard others say. The typical response is ....”prove it with measurements”. MANY of these people have never no experience with modern home and car audio speaker drivers. Most of them also claim that BA drivers don’t have moving parts. Guess what? BA driver DO have moving parts. Look at any detailed cut away diagram of a BA and it’s evident that are indeed moving parts.
I’m burning in a set of Focal Elegia right now and I heard a significant difference after 6 hours. It’s IMPOSSIBLE to hear something for 20 seconds and KNOW that somethnig doesn’t sound right and after several hours feel differently. Thats not brain burn in. Brain burn in involves several HOURS of constant listening. I’ll give them 100 hours and evaluate.
@@Assimilator702 But why isnt that done at the factory?
Why would anybody want a "unfinished" product...
It just doesnt make any sense. It not that those are $20 headphones.
What happened to the sound demo ?
Australia voice too funny 😂 you are the best zeos
Just ordered. Thanks
expensive doesn't necessarily means massively good sound proved! lol!
Did the Utopias you reviewed have ~100 hours of burn in?
They were a used pair. So they had whatever they had.
I bought these shortly after they came out and it was love at first listen. I don't care about the unboxing at all given that the box just sits in my spare bedroom. The carrying case is really nice, but one of the elastic straps inside to hold your wires fell apart easily - not that it's a big deal. I will say that they look absolutely fantastic, better in real life than in any review video. I upgraded to these from Sony Z1Rs and Stellias are hands down better in almost every way, especially the amount of detail they retrieve. Sonys are wider and more comfortable (not to say these are uncomfortable) but everything else is advantage Stellia. I'm in a huge minority in that I wear these to the gym daily and they power just amazingly from a portable amp (Fiio q5s) as well as my tube amp at home. In 6 months no one at the gym has said anything about them which was kind of surprising given how unique they look.
You wear these to the gym?!?!? You must be a total baller
I might get a pair and will using them portably. Probably not at the gym or while exercising though, I think it might damage the leather. If you don't already you should use some leather care products.
Thinking of these...have the Sony Z1Rs. Convince me to switch 😁 👍
Now Meze empyrean ... or these. Same price not ? Whats the fkn difference ... When meze is pagani zonda (or huayra) then Focal is What
Stellia is trash
Could you talk about what you are gaining by getting these over the Neumann NDH 20 besides luxury?...Talkin' sound...Would you grab the Focal 10/10 times?...
Jeff DeArmitt The Focal headphones are unlike anything on the market. It has the best attributes of planar drivers with the dynamic impact amp of the best dynamic drivers. Once you hear a pair you’ll know. Watch Tyll’s review of the Focal Elear. He nails it.
Id watch the unboxing.
Talking about unbixing tho, why do you never post the Sony Z1R unbox? I've been on the lookout for years now.
Haha bro that was years ago now
I... don't know? They were loaned to me by someone directly so maybe there was no box?
@@ZReviews you got the big Storage sony box bud, you did show them in the review vid
Just never when it first arrives
Still salty about that focal clear review! lol
and _after_ he's been repeatedly told it was the *AMP* that was very wrong for them, not the headphone's fault.
As an Elex owner, I have no desire to take that set of headphones or a set of similar designed headphones portable. In addition, if you were to take away the amazing soundstage of the Elex by making it closed, even if it sounded similar, I would lose all interest.
"amazing soundstage". hmm, what other headphones have you listened to? Zeos was the only one to believe that it had profficent stage. Dms, Valour, metal, and many more including me, thought the soundstage was equivalent to the sennheiser hd600 series, that is to say, not a lot.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 I currently own: The DT1990 Pro, DT1770 Pro, Argon MK3, Argon MK2, AFK Khan, HD6XX, Vokyl Erupt, AGK K702, and of course the Focal Elex.
I have also owned several other headphones in the past, such as the M1060 and the NDH20. As far as the soundstage goes, it's NOT as narrow as something from the HD600 series. It is significantly wider. However, the soundstage is not the biggest or the widest of the bunch, but it has BY FAR the most accurate soundstage and imaging of anything that I have listed to above. Go watch DMS's review again. That's pretty much exactly how my set sounds.
@@PerfmonX64 Soundstage is quite the bitch to rangle into an objective stance, so it could well be that I wasn't listening to the right material (never owned one, only had a brief chance to demo it twice). Metal was the most vocal, saying the elex had no more soundstage than a 660s, but he also said the empyrean had massive soundstage with the leather pads which I don't get at all.
People say the HD800 is wide. I don't get blown away by soundstage in those. Soooo
Zeos listen to the band Failure - Fantastic Planet ( Live ) on the Stellia's fn amazing
I have listened to these, would love these for work as imo they are best you get for a closed headphone but it was a test between these and the empyreans at the time and well I went with the empyreans and got a pair of second hand audeze el8 for work a few weeks later
Burn in is a myth, but you're still always entertaining Z.
You are right. IHa-6 is amazing. When do you review it @Zeos?
@ zeo I have a question, have you ever did a review of fearless audio or hear them are they any good. I thinking either fiio fh7 or the fearless audio s8 freedom.
HD 800 don't suck!! >:(
But I don't prefer them. (is the nice way to say it)
@@ZReviews I understand that and why.
But what you say about the stellia (need the good amp,good song well recorded..)for being appreciable is valid for the HD800 too.
HD800 lake of euphony,i concede that.
Nice work by the way.
PS: Fuck me and take my money :)
Can I plug it into a computer? What components do I need in order to maximize its full potential? Thank you.
The XLR connector cable isnt balanced (check the terminals)
Better than klipsch unboxing ? I have both dont think so :0
Zeos.. You've got a lot of great headphones.. closed or open..
But you don't have big money quality AMPs.
Because "big money" amps have extremely diminishing returns and aren't really any better
Got a nutso German one coming tomorrow. If nothing else it will be a conversation starter.
"Baise moi et prend mon argent" ffs this title 😂😂😂 as a French person it had me in tears 😂
What is the English translation?
I got everything else but what does "Baise" mean ?
*F*ck me and take my money*
Baiser means f*ck lmao
@@MetProSOWC is it grammmarly correct? cuz "mon argent" confused me a bit.
Yupe, totally true
"Mon argent" means "my money"
Too bad I have ADHD. I'll forget about these when the actual unboxing launches.
Unboxing in the description ;)
Zeos which open back headphone do you think has same or close sound signature as the stellia?
utopia. only better than utopia. lol
I wonder how these would sound with a shiit jotunheim?
can't believe I missed this
Having to burn in high end audio to reach their performance peak, is like buying disassembled furniture from ikea. "Breaking in" should be done by the mfg. in a controlled manner when there's a premium price.
I need to get into headphones. But My net>gross so ehhh meh. P.s please review the rf7 iii! Thank you Papa Z. Your bud, Matt~
I heard it on an audio show once, maybe my pair was defected or not burned in(or both). But it's one of the worst headphone i ever heard. Everything is muddy, there are quite a bit of dead zone in imaging and it's pretty terrible. If i have the chance I would like to demo it again to comfirm my suspension cause though Focal headphone generally aren't my cup of tea, there is no way they made something that bad.
Sorry, but you heard wrong. The Focal headphones I've heard and owned (Elegia, Clear, Utopia, Stellia) were the complete opposite of muddy. Audeze's on the other hand...
@@TheSPazCORE yeah I really hope that the unit that I demoed is faulty cause it sounded like absolute garbage.
@@TheSPazCORE Hi,
How much better is the Utopia compared to the Clear? I own the Clear and I think of buying the Utopia used maybe someday.
This is one of my fears. That I get a SINGLE headphone that isn't confirmed by the creators as "correct" and put things on blast. What if I got the black sheep. Then again what if 30% of the people buying get the black sheep. That's worse.
@@wasanderesalsihrseid Hi Bjorn, the Clear is honestly my pick of the whole Focal range. The Utopia is maybe 10-15% 'better' than the Clear, the biggest difference being detail retrieval. The Utopia is intensely clear and detailed. The drawbacks being that they are so detailed and slighly forward/brignt that they can be shouty and fatigiung. Also, the beryllium drivers have a unique timbre characterstic that you could describe as metallic sounding. Whether the Utopia would be worth it for you is a question only you can answer. Definitely try before you buy. For me personally, the Utopia is NOT worth it over the Clear being 2.5x the price. Same with the Stellia over the Elegia too.
Doesn't believe that different DACs sound different, but firmly believes in headphone break in lol
Dac's have no moving parts. Headphones, speakers, subs Do.
You don't believe in tight jeans or sneaker break-in?
The dac chips (eic) has 167 known variants as of 2018 and I'm sure there are many more to date. Although there are no "moving parts" they are an can be as different as cold pizza or a French pastry. LOL.
Any chance of an Elegia review?
164 ohm output impedance amp... anything u hear will sound completely different than most of the ppl out there in the world.
What pads do you recommend for nad hp50? Right now ive got pads on it that are intended as aftermarket denon ah mm400 replacement pads (thicker than stock mm400 pads) that i really like for it- improves the sound a little and are much more comfy. But theyre pleather. Any velour, protein or real leather recommendations?
Been too long. I don't know what would work from the current crop.
@@ZReviews ah damn :(
Not even a wild guess i can keep in my google tabs until i have some more spare money?
@@jayjaygolden5123 I want to say shuren1540, but those don't always sound good
@@ZReviews i'll try when i get to it haha, thanks!
Hi, do I have the focal clear and worth upgrading to stellia?
I made that upgrade mate. Yes, Stellia are much better
Should be titled "Zeos Platinum"
Yeah was not very impressed either when I head them at the local hi-fi store.
don't rub the headphone and moan. It makes me moist. Yes, Daft Punk are from France
20 minute review and you learn absolutely nothing about the sound?
He has a bias against Focal.
They are a gentle and positive musical experience. Don't push them too hard to with too much garbage and you are rewarded. They may look like every other focal but they actually deliver it just takes a lot of searching. I could never find it at a meet or canjam. Natural is the word.
Z Reviews thank you!! 3 grand is a lot but I’m sure if you find that you will be satisfied
Z the 🐑
LMAO Focal is releasing a new headphone every 3 months it seems. I'd be terrified to buy from them, since a newer better headphone is just a few months away.
Is the title really in french or it s youtube traducing it in france xD?
mdr baise-moi et prends mon argent , i m french, it s good
I did not like these at when I listened to them at a store but they mustn’t have been burnt in
Or music was not well recorded enough. Source well enough.. These are babies you need to baby. Like an old french car.
What happened to cheap and good?
It's fun to dream about the ultra-high-end on occasion
You've made a mistake- you keep calling these $3k headphones. They're not though - that packaging is worth at least $500 on it's own, so the headphones themselves are at most $2500... and that changes things.
;)
Great video to ask for a Takstar ML-750 review
Do it for the poor people in the world, we also want enjoy music!
Please :''')
Finest unboxing experience of my career.....LOLOLOL What you been smokin' Z? Pretty sure if someone went through the archives this has been said before.
T60rp were great. TH909 terrible. The Valve Index was pretty tits.
is that a zishan t1 i see?
yes
Very glad Rocky Mountain worked out for you! I was/ am very proud of you reaching your goal/dream and as you obviously know, I don't even really know you! For me to feel this way toward somebody/stranger is like Bill Gates getting a 0 on a math test!🤪🤭🤔😉😎😇
The box is nice, but ita the usual Focal boxes but covered in leather. Meh
Zeos, is it too late to announce your candidacy for the 2020 Presidential election ? Some might laugh at that prospect, but I'm willing to be that your 3AM tweets would be a whole lot more entertaining .....
Thanks for the vid, big guy.
I wonder how many subs Zeos lost when he said they needed burn-in
Are they good on Xduo amps?
that price though lol
Zeos you can't talk shit about the measurement people when you have a sound demo rig. That's just as bad. Also I'd rather my money went into the headphones than their packaging. that's just falling for marketing.
Step up zeos
I shouldn't have to beat a pair of phones into submission in order to tweak them to taste. For 3k, they'd better whistle Dixie and get me a beer, be above supremely satisfying on anything I plug into. I'm not feeling it Z, no matter what Gucci purse it comes with...meh.
Generally to assess a headphone you have to hear it, not make comment on its appearance. And by "generally", I mean always.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 I'll be in Paris next Tuesday, that's not a bad idea...I'll put that on my agenda.
YES. Drink wine and eat cheese while wearing them please!
@@ZReviews Only for you Z! :)
MEH
overpriced
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They're boxed exactly the same way than my Focal Clear... but wrapped in leather and velour/whatever, so not impressed at all about the unboxing. $3000 and they need 100 hours of breaking in??? plus they're not too wide??? For that money they should do my breakfast and clean the house to make them worthy of the price (lol)
So, take off all that stupidly expensive and totally unnecessary leather and de luxe accesories and lower the price at 1000 dollars. I'm sure they still would be overpriced judging for your comments but at least won't be a total steal.
Beryllium is pretty damn expensive to manufacturer, both to buy and especially to work with (it requires a specialist technician, which needless to say cost a bit more than your average chinese factory line worker). It's why most manufactures that say there beryllium drivers are only coated, focal stellia's and utopias drivers are made from pure beryllium. That being said, you can get paradigm entry level pure beryllium tower speakers for just over twice what focal is charging for the stellia's, so i'd say $2000 is a far more fair price.
Dislike for not liking the Beatles.
This review is only for 0,01% subscribers
Why can't you just watch something you won't be buying. Are you someone that actually watches zeos for advice and not entertainment?
Honestly I think like 3%, My patronage telegram chat has some FAT CATS.
3K LUL
wack
With the f... leather box and all futile details that cost a quarter of the price they could reduce the price of the set and even offer a nice stand that would fit in the f... useless “Hermès” style box like if you’re going to pray in front of that box all your life.
We need to be reasonable.
Guys today I saw a kid (boy) getting out of the college, around 14-15 years old, going to buy a sandwich with his colleagues (boys and girls) and he was more made up than a girl! 😜
Kind of a eccentricity like focal. Need to exaggerate to feel the outside recognition. I apologize for the example but, even those Bentley things should be reconsider.
But yeah at least sounds good.
$3000 🙆🏻♂️ Heeelp!!!!!
I absolutely HATE the stellia ... Trashy Beats by Focal
@Lana lolooooollllllllll no i am not,,, I'm not an idiot. YOU and I have different ears like everyone else on this earth. How ignorant can you be..... I am use to my he1000se... and in comparison the stellias sound like absolute garbage TO ME.
It needs 100 hours of break in bro. It's explained by upscale-audio.
@@johenkay1129 I auditioned a well broke in pair ... Not for me , just too claustrophobic
headphones at this price is a scam
Gotta be
Hmm 800's are terrible? get your ears fixed dude. unsuscribed