I finished doing this in 19T instead of 4T, with as many buffs as possible, and with Melody AS instead of Shigure ES. I think I am not good at maths :)
Damn, this boss is even more difficult than Shadow of Karna Genesis. Well, they both are difficult, but the last one is more predictable and you have a chance to beat it. The Shade Alter Force is really insane with the buff/debuff limit, Almost all units have a buff/debuff skill, How can I win with that? You can't buff/debuff, but You need to inflict DMG to beat it, that's absurd.
I was able to get 300 billion pretty easy with a Slash team built around Sesta AS. If you have her, I’m pretty sure you can manage with any kind of Wind or Slash team even with just budget units backing her up Otherwise, it’s really gonna depend on what units you personally have access to if you want any real help that isn’t a F2P-only guide.
1. Can this be done with Sesta, but without Shigure ES? (or water team without Jillfunny) 2. How do you control 8 buffs or debuffs rule -> I seem to always trigger that aura.
@Seven7AE I am not sure how exactly do I need to change strategy. I already tried for about 4 hours, and so far failed. Problem 1. I cannot kill boss in 1 AF due to having more than 8 buffs. Problem 2. I seem to get 8 buffs on the 1st turn even if I remove all support grasta. I see you have some support grasta on reserve units. Problem 3. Some skills like Depravity and Dark drill for Melody give both buffs and debuffs. Sesta herself also does some buffs when doing Twinblade Wolf. Not sure how to count these, and which of them are distinct. If I look at Sesta she has 10+ different signs before the battle even starts.
@Seven7AE I removed all shareable grasta and sent only team of 4: Melpi, Suzette, Sesta AS, and Melody AS in battle. And I still hit aura on the turn I do AF. Turn 1: Slash zone (0), demonic thrust (0), Depravity (2), crusher blow (0). Turn 2: AF. Wicked wolf sweep (0), Dark Drill (2), Dragon Assault (0), super duper slice (0). Should be 4 buffs, but I hit 8. I check before statuses before stellar burst in AF. So where do I get 4 more buffs???
You have to test for yourself if you want to do below 8 buffs clear, I can't help with that. also, melt is an awful idea, since she can over 5 buffs just by herself, and if you can't use her buffs, why even use her at all, just go with soira as and do wind zone instead. I suggest you nuke though the aura instead if you can't get it to not activate, shouldn't be too hard with Sesta as
This boss is absolutely atrocious. No wonder I haven't seen a clear without either Sesta AS or Shigure ES yet. Still a nice clear, though. Maybe WFS will be nice and nerf this boss in the future, like they did with Time Anti Spiral when Wanderer in the Binding Night was first released.
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I finished doing this in 19T instead of 4T, with as many buffs as possible, and with Melody AS instead of Shigure ES. I think I am not good at maths :)
I haven't fought it yet, but i wonder if i can do the same with normal Sesta as I'm missing the AS version for it!
@@aleaslupo7264 way different with sesta ns due to the aura
@Seven7AE i see! I'll have to think of another team then!
Damn, this boss is even more difficult than Shadow of Karna Genesis.
Well, they both are difficult, but the last one is more predictable and you have a chance to beat it.
The Shade Alter Force is really insane with the buff/debuff limit, Almost all units have a buff/debuff skill, How can I win with that? You can't buff/debuff, but You need to inflict DMG to beat it, that's absurd.
it's a unreasonable boss that's too hard for anyone who doesn't have specific characters. But thankfully(?), the rewards for beating it aren't great
@@Seven7AEBtw, does fixed DMG works too? I mean, If I can use Wenefica or Tiramisu to beat this boss... Well, Idk. 🤔
@ the max per turn fixed damage is less that what the boss regens per turn
I was wondering if you would be able to provide help with the big bag dummy test, to get the achievement we need to do 100 billion damage in one turn
I was able to get 300 billion pretty easy with a Slash team built around Sesta AS. If you have her, I’m pretty sure you can manage with any kind of Wind or Slash team even with just budget units backing her up
Otherwise, it’s really gonna depend on what units you personally have access to if you want any real help that isn’t a F2P-only guide.
1. Can this be done with Sesta, but without Shigure ES? (or water team without Jillfunny)
2. How do you control 8 buffs or debuffs rule -> I seem to always trigger that aura.
@@yaroslavkolodiy8901 1. Will need to stall and change strat. Same with jill.
2. It was a lot of testing to get it below 8 buffs, very specific.
@Seven7AE I am not sure how exactly do I need to change strategy. I already tried for about 4 hours, and so far failed.
Problem 1. I cannot kill boss in 1 AF due to having more than 8 buffs. Problem 2. I seem to get 8 buffs on the 1st turn even if I remove all support grasta. I see you have some support grasta on reserve units. Problem 3. Some skills like Depravity and Dark drill for Melody give both buffs and debuffs. Sesta herself also does some buffs when doing Twinblade Wolf. Not sure how to count these, and which of them are distinct. If I look at Sesta she has 10+ different signs before the battle even starts.
@ some icons aren’t considered buffs. Same icons are considered one buff like all the max hp equipment in this is just 1 buff
@Seven7AE I removed all shareable grasta and sent only team of 4: Melpi, Suzette, Sesta AS, and Melody AS in battle. And I still hit aura on the turn I do AF.
Turn 1: Slash zone (0), demonic thrust (0), Depravity (2), crusher blow (0).
Turn 2: AF. Wicked wolf sweep (0), Dark Drill (2), Dragon Assault (0), super duper slice (0). Should be 4 buffs, but I hit 8. I check before statuses before stellar burst in AF. So where do I get 4 more buffs???
You have to test for yourself if you want to do below 8 buffs clear, I can't help with that.
also, melt is an awful idea, since she can over 5 buffs just by herself, and if you can't use her buffs, why even use her at all, just go with soira as and do wind zone instead.
I suggest you nuke though the aura instead if you can't get it to not activate, shouldn't be too hard with Sesta as
Did u still remember how to Unlocked Axe synthesis??? I just started the quest 😢
@@muhammadreza5622 need to get boots first, but need to get spirit sigh recipe before that, go start the castle quests with ludovica first
@Seven7AE oh okok thanks ill try it
Both the bosses are refightable. Will you make f2p clear of this too?
@@TheMrTataaa I don't think it's possible with current f2p units
Would a Water team be able to beat this one too?
@@TheRookieJ will need to stall if using elseal team
Yes, i cleared with water(elseal, jillfunny, mighty and hismena alt)
@@seriouslyfun9740 gotta wait for next month to SA Jillfunny and Mighty.
This boss is absolutely atrocious. No wonder I haven't seen a clear without either Sesta AS or Shigure ES yet. Still a nice clear, though.
Maybe WFS will be nice and nerf this boss in the future, like they did with Time Anti Spiral when Wanderer in the Binding Night was first released.
if you don't have those 2, it's a stall battle against a boss with a lot of gimmicks
@@Seven7AE Yeah for sure. I just did a clear with Elseal and Jillfunny not too long ago. Had to stall for water expose, then stall for AF meter.
Nice! Though you said that it's the hardest boss now, you still defeated it quite easily.
@@tiennguyenminh7583 that's because those are the optimal units for this, becomes a nightmare without sesta as and shigure es
Super dumb boss incoming
Nice clear though