The fact that we all call and reply " who are the patriots" and " the la le lu la lo" is the most meta meme possible, from a game thats plot is based on meta memes.
Its amazing to think, that all of this happened... because there were some now wanted to make "The bosses Will" a reality, or what they assumed she wanted in this world... and everyone was completely wrong, and almost destroyed the world doing it. Incredible.
My dmbzz deleted PT. I know I can get it back but it's a hassle. So I found this really good PC port and it's actually really faithful to the original in most ways
i remember reading the great plan originally written by kojima about mgs2 in that plan the patriots seemed to be some people that apparently digitized themselves in order to avoid death
@Abdirahman_Mohamed a copy is still a copy. There is no way to digitize the soul, only to mimic how the person would have acted, an algorithm, a fake AI. There is no point. Unfortunately, said elite will fall for it, just as some fell for cryogenic freezing.
Man I have waited for a video litterally just called "who are the patriots" on UA-cam and there is NOT one. One in spanish but that's about it! 😮 THANKYOU 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
if you haven't you should check out the rest of his mgs videos!!! especially on mgs5, jorin does an amazing job in putting the pieces together. this channel truly is a gold mine for mgs fans or aspiring conspiracy theorists.
another great video from the guy himself, deep dives into everything analysing every corner really makes this franchise stay alive well done again @Futurasoundproductions
Dannngggg two videos in a week span, I'm counting my blessings. Thanks Jorin, I appreciate your content a lot. It always felt like an adventure to investigate in the web about the historic inspiration for such a great series, but your videos are really give it that oomph, to make it not only interesting but fun.
I can't help but imagine a world where I am playing 'My' MGS4 on 'My' Nintendo Switch (2). I cannot accept anything less from the second part of the Legacy Collection.
I am still obsessed with MGS years later and I appreciate your videos so much! They are soothing to listen to you while I'm cooking and doing chores :) Thank you!
Is that you Greg? You snake in the gressss. I see what you're doing. Tim wont let you get away with this farce, pretending to be some Scoopsdepoop guy. You will PAY for this trensgrashon.@@Scoopsdepoop
The Tocqueville quote you cited in this video is goosebumps-inducing. It sounds like something Zero or Skull Face would say in MGSV about the goals of Cipher. Great work
I use to think Jorin Lee was actually Kojima san just using an alias and hiring a voice actor to deliver these amazing video essays on his Metal Gear series.
before starting your video, I liked it more when the Patriots were this unknown group orchestrating from the shadow. MGS4 ruined the mistery when "revealing" it was the operation group from MGS3. It killed the magic.
I assumed that "shadow government" was a thing way before I had even heard the term. It was the only way things made sense. When I first played MGS2 at age 12, it was great to hear Johnson put the whole thing into plain words. As for the control of information, it seemed like the logical thing for the future. The way internet has changed from a teenagers' sandbox into the main source of information for everyone, how it's all been sanitized to revolve around a few main sites owned by huge companies, instead of hundreds of thousands of different small communities, it certainly seems that we are at that point now. MGS2 became one of my fav games of all time, and it's the newest game in my top 10, but I hate all the "omg MGS2 predicted future!!1" videos that have been popping up. I mean, it was masterfully written into the experience of the game, but at the core just a logical way of how things would proceed, at least to anyone that was aware of the exponential growth happening on the field of technology and information flow.
I appreciate this video more compared to the last upload of PT=MGSV, but a suggestion would to please show more relevant footage that aligns with the subject of your voice over. There are large stretches of what feels like filler footage from say MGS4 when talking about historical groups. This makes the video essay format feel more like an audio essay with some hasty footage filing the background. The subtitles in the MGS4 opening commercial for example are distracting when trying to process the dialog of the voice over. And an image of a Revolutionary War painting playing over dialog talking about the Chinese philosophers just feels disjointed. I'm sure some poetic license can be taken so not all footage is directly related to the commentary, but a lot of it feels arbitrary. Why even make a video essay at that point?
While I enjoyed the writing and information in the video, I do have to agree with this comment. Definitely in a constructive criticism kind of way! No hate.
After playing and watching gameplays of MGS2 many times, I tend to think that The Patriots are actually the good guys and their philosophy to advance human progress is correct
an important comparison that I believe is missed out here regarding the Wisemen's Committee is to the Witan (Wise Men) of Anglo-Saxon England - the king's council, and notably the prototypical kingmakers, as they held the power to elect and appoint the next king of England until the Norman invasion. Of course, this can be compared easily to the Patriots' power over the American elections, for example.
Great job as always, if find very interesting the affirmation that it doesnt matter if they wxist or not, just by the fact that they could exist, they exist. Got to meditate on that, thanks
We desperately need a video making parallel to the current ICIG oversight involving uap crash retrieval and reverse engineering program the unelected Beaucrats that make decisions over this.
Interestingly, I'd say the Patriots match Fabian marxism the most which is a left wing thing that adapts alternative governing forms when convenient to further the cause in the big picture. Check it out.
Fabian Marxist is an oxymoron. It literally rose to prevent Marxism from rooting into the British Labour party. How it relates with the Patriots is really not clear.
You just need to search what was the influence of the games themes and go from there. For example: MGS3 covers topics such as the space race and the unlisted launches carried out by the US and Russia, right? You can investigate that and start drawing parallels. Same thing with the Cobras and the human experiments carried out in WW2. Unfortunately those were nowhere near as glamorous or successful (the Russian research on ESP and such) and ultimately downright inhumane in the case of the N Germans. There’s plenty of stuff throughout the series with real life influences, just like most media.
I didn't really agree with your PT video, but this one is a very good overview and contrast of the deep states of both Metal Gear and real life. Great job!
The La Li Lu Le Lo?
aka cipher
glad to know jorin isn't one of you!
Ugh, you beat me to it
LA LI LU LE LO?!!
Finland conf.
The fact that we all call and reply " who are the patriots" and " the la le lu la lo" is the most meta meme possible, from a game thats plot is based on meta memes.
It's quite.. odd how the plot of most of the MGS games seems to be coming real
@@Adamnlaw life imitating art
@@Adamnlaw seems to be?
Idk, but I absolutely wouldn't be surprised if videos of people being yanked into the sky by balloons started popping up.
Memetics and memes are 2 very different things. So much of this story is misunderstood thanks to that simple mistake.
@@r3gret2079 um no.
Memetics is the study of memes and their transmission through culture.
Here before The Patriots take it down!
How were you able to say "La li lu le lo" without being censored by nanomachines?
I was about to say it’s the other way around but then I realized. Clever.
I’m surprised he could get la li lu le lo in the video title without it being changed
This channel inspired me to write a 3,000 word paper on MGSV for my class. Jorin Lee, you’re pretty good.
Why not turn it into a video essay?
@@Shokisan1ya know what? I like this idea. Might give it a go
@@ZetaMoolahwe're waiting
daaamn, you better share that shit out, it must be very interesting
@@TokenMCPE😂❤
Its amazing to think, that all of this happened... because there were some now wanted to make "The bosses Will" a reality, or what they assumed she wanted in this world... and everyone was completely wrong, and almost destroyed the world doing it. Incredible.
This comment feels like a time-crystal picked straight out of the first days following the release of MGS4 lol
I literally JUST watched the PT video, closed youtube for about ten minutes to answer a call, opened it back up and OH LOOK NEW VIDEO
Nice when on futura binge
My dmbzz deleted PT. I know I can get it back but it's a hassle. So I found this really good PC port and it's actually really faithful to the original in most ways
i remember reading the great plan originally written by kojima about mgs2 in that plan the patriots seemed to be some people that apparently digitized themselves in order to avoid death
Kinda like what the current elites want to do.
remind me of Old World Blues DLC from Fallout : New Vegas
@@EdiTheDonYuval Hariri and WEF are talking about transhumanism all the time, which is a lil worrying
@Abdirahman_Mohamed a copy is still a copy. There is no way to digitize the soul, only to mimic how the person would have acted, an algorithm, a fake AI. There is no point. Unfortunately, said elite will fall for it, just as some fell for cryogenic freezing.
Man I have waited for a video litterally just called "who are the patriots" on UA-cam and there is NOT one. One in spanish but that's about it! 😮 THANKYOU 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
The Patriots wouldnt want that information out.
if you haven't you should check out the rest of his mgs videos!!!
especially on mgs5, jorin does an amazing job in putting the pieces together.
this channel truly is a gold mine for mgs fans or aspiring conspiracy theorists.
You can thank the Clintons for that.
I was looking for something like this less than 12 hours ago
The videos have been censored... by the patriots
another great video from the guy himself, deep dives into everything analysing every corner really makes this franchise stay alive well done again @Futurasoundproductions
Dannngggg two videos in a week span, I'm counting my blessings.
Thanks Jorin, I appreciate your content a lot. It always felt like an adventure to investigate in the web about the historic inspiration for such a great series, but your videos are really give it that oomph, to make it not only interesting but fun.
“I’ve been waiting for this!!!” - Liquid Snake
“Kept you waiting, huh?”
BRuuthaaaaaaaaz
as a conspiracy theorist you ain't shit if you can't explain the full mgs lore from ocelot's perspective!
💯
This, but unironically.
I can't help but imagine a world where I am playing 'My' MGS4 on 'My' Nintendo Switch (2). I cannot accept anything less from the second part of the Legacy Collection.
I am still obsessed with MGS years later and I appreciate your videos so much! They are soothing to listen to you while I'm cooking and doing chores :) Thank you!
Metal Gear Solid is the best franchise of all time
Game, Movie, Comic Book, Anime,
Anything
On Cinema At The Cinema is a lil bit better.
There's a board game now too...
Is that you Greg? You snake in the gressss. I see what you're doing. Tim wont let you get away with this farce, pretending to be some Scoopsdepoop guy. You will PAY for this trensgrashon.@@Scoopsdepoop
The Tocqueville quote you cited in this video is goosebumps-inducing. It sounds like something Zero or Skull Face would say in MGSV about the goals of Cipher.
Great work
A FS video on my birthday? Joy! And on my favorite mystery in MGS
Happy birthday. And don’t forget, we have Rosemary…
It was mine as well lol 🎉
Another banger video from Futurasound, as usual. This is one of my favorites, because it's easy to write off the Patriots as mere fiction
I use to think Jorin Lee was actually Kojima san just using an alias and hiring a voice actor to deliver these amazing video essays on his Metal Gear series.
It's been finally made! I have wanted someone to make a video about "who are the patriots?" for ever
I came here for deep MGS lore, found Fextralife. You sound just like him man. Great Video, can't wait to watch more!
A good book to take up this question with would be Mill's The Power Elite, as well as Aaron Good's American Exception
Jorin, just when I thought today couldn’t redeem itself anymore, this hits my feed, thanks for the stellar content as always, here’s to you boss!
We would be better off being ruled by philosophers than lawyers, lol.
Easy, its the majestic 12
"What a shame."
@@SgtPotShotmy vision is augmented
"Maybe you should join Majestic 12...in a body bag."
The conspiracy is real
Great video man!
So psyched you're back man ❤️
Oh no Jorin is back at it with the Patriots gonna be a Banger!
Great video!!!! Awesome they way its put together. Alot of info
Glad you are back. I love your MGS analysis videos
You are a true scholar, please don’t stop what ur doing, love from shanghai
before starting your video, I liked it more when the Patriots were this unknown group orchestrating from the shadow.
MGS4 ruined the mistery when "revealing" it was the operation group from MGS3.
It killed the magic.
I assumed that "shadow government" was a thing way before I had even heard the term. It was the only way things made sense. When I first played MGS2 at age 12, it was great to hear Johnson put the whole thing into plain words. As for the control of information, it seemed like the logical thing for the future. The way internet has changed from a teenagers' sandbox into the main source of information for everyone, how it's all been sanitized to revolve around a few main sites owned by huge companies, instead of hundreds of thousands of different small communities, it certainly seems that we are at that point now. MGS2 became one of my fav games of all time, and it's the newest game in my top 10, but I hate all the "omg MGS2 predicted future!!1" videos that have been popping up. I mean, it was masterfully written into the experience of the game, but at the core just a logical way of how things would proceed, at least to anyone that was aware of the exponential growth happening on the field of technology and information flow.
Sure but MGS2 is over 22 years old, it was unprecedented with the ideas presented. It deserves the success.
I liked the way you wrote that.
NOW the legend has come back to life. You kept me waiting, Boss.
Just when i thought today could'nt get any better, a Futurasound video?!?! 🤩💥
Glad the see the fandom is alive ;)
glad you're back!! and tackling a great subject
I appreciate this video more compared to the last upload of PT=MGSV, but a suggestion would to please show more relevant footage that aligns with the subject of your voice over. There are large stretches of what feels like filler footage from say MGS4 when talking about historical groups. This makes the video essay format feel more like an audio essay with some hasty footage filing the background. The subtitles in the MGS4 opening commercial for example are distracting when trying to process the dialog of the voice over. And an image of a Revolutionary War painting playing over dialog talking about the Chinese philosophers just feels disjointed. I'm sure some poetic license can be taken so not all footage is directly related to the commentary, but a lot of it feels arbitrary. Why even make a video essay at that point?
While I enjoyed the writing and information in the video, I do have to agree with this comment. Definitely in a constructive criticism kind of way! No hate.
The La Li Lu Le Lo? How's that possible?
Lol, excited to have another video from you dude!
If the patriots take this down that means its canon
The LA LEI LU LEI LO the first was The Philosophers, the second was Cipher, and finally, The Patiots
I just love everything about your videos , how u narrate and analyze metal gear is just amazing.
I love your channel. Keep up the good work
there’s more “history” in the “historical fiction” franchise mgs than there is in textbooks.
only the victor writes history, or whatever.
Hey my man you are back! I was worried about you, random person. I love your videos and hope you are well x
Kojima is holding a lot of things back. I'm surprised he's allowed to make games.
So mgs 2 set up the patriots. Mgs 3 shows the patriots. Mgs 4 shows the end of them. Beautiful, and mgs 5 is just a shroom trip
After playing and watching gameplays of MGS2 many times, I tend to think that The Patriots are actually the good guys and their philosophy to advance human progress is correct
Jorin Sears confirmed
This was released the hour I completed MGS2. hmmm.......
THEY KNOW.
They know.
GW- George Washington, TR- Theodore Roosevelt, AL- Abraham Lincoln, TJ- Thomas Jefferson...
Mount Rushmore indeed
The thumbnail says it all, I knew jorin was one of them 😂
Reads title:Dafaq you yapping about!
What's a lalilulelo?
Kid's wired on nanomachines..
I’m not sure giving up the ghost means what you think it means
Where are the rest of the "What happened in MGS2" videos?? Cause it says there are 4 hidden videos out of the two visible.
If the last 2 ai pods were based on the boss. Then is GW based on the boss? Hmm
Thank you sooo much for these videos you are awesome.
What is the bilderburg meeting? La li lu le lo?
Basically yes, a kind of international LA LI LU LE LO
This video essay is awesome
Hey man at 15:54 for a second there was a media missing notification, great video tho
Great soundtrack, as always, Boss
When is the next episode of what happens in MGS2 coming out?
Just the idea of the “patriots” is unsettling
an important comparison that I believe is missed out here regarding the Wisemen's Committee is to the Witan (Wise Men) of Anglo-Saxon England - the king's council, and notably the prototypical kingmakers, as they held the power to elect and appoint the next king of England until the Norman invasion. Of course, this can be compared easily to the Patriots' power over the American elections, for example.
Solid video. Tom Brady and his teammates are legendary for all they've been able to accomplish.
Least conspiritorial titled mgs video
Thanks for all these 🍻
You’ll never escape the La Li Lu Le Lo!
Show me a game that predicted the future with the control of the flow of information like mgs2 did
this might be a video buts its more importantly an essay
I’ve been asking myself this question since MGS2.
Excellent. Its like Outer Haven is the twisted Aristotelian side and The Patriots , The extreme side of Plato's Republic.
Thank you for this...
welcome back boss
Just got here. Saw a face in the thumbnail.
Oh fuck. This is going to be good.
JD, GW, TJ, TR, and AL.
All the ex US President Name except JD.... Right?
@@168val correct.
@@168valwho is JD?
@@Geuelthefool John Doe
The joy is bae
Laughing octopus bae 2
Does anyone know what song is playing at 1:15? It sounds really good
Great job as always, if find very interesting the affirmation that it doesnt matter if they wxist or not, just by the fact that they could exist, they exist. Got to meditate on that, thanks
The answer is: La Li Lu Le Lo.
Sorry for keeping You waiting
So excited!
We desperately need a video making parallel to the current ICIG oversight involving uap crash retrieval and reverse engineering program the unelected Beaucrats that make decisions over this.
whats the intro song called? it bops
Interestingly, I'd say the Patriots match Fabian marxism the most which is a left wing thing that adapts alternative governing forms when convenient to further the cause in the big picture. Check it out.
Fabian Marxist is an oxymoron. It literally rose to prevent Marxism from rooting into the British Labour party.
How it relates with the Patriots is really not clear.
Just "La Li Lu Le Lo".
Tbh zero was just the “yesman”
You have a fantastic channel 👍🙏🤘🔥🙋
I always thought the metal gear series of games was a telling of kojimas relationship with konami over years.
the patriots must conspire to make me click all your vids man
did you get this real world information from a specific book? crazy interesting
You just need to search what was the influence of the games themes and go from there. For example: MGS3 covers topics such as the space race and the unlisted launches carried out by the US and Russia, right? You can investigate that and start drawing parallels. Same thing with the Cobras and the human experiments carried out in WW2. Unfortunately those were nowhere near as glamorous or successful (the Russian research on ESP and such) and ultimately downright inhumane in the case of the N Germans.
There’s plenty of stuff throughout the series with real life influences, just like most media.
5:20 thanks for saying that. Most people I’ve seen online attribute these kinds of politics to the franchise and its just so off point.
Who Are the La Li Lu Le Lo?
La li lu le lo. End of video.
La-li-lu-le-lo.
No way boys he dropped a new one
I didn't really agree with your PT video, but this one is a very good overview and contrast of the deep states of both Metal Gear and real life. Great job!
WHOOOOOOOOO?????!?!?!?!?
the list snake got in the end of mgs2 (dead a long time ago) were just puppets?
Why did you put your head on the thumbnail? 😂