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  • Skip Bayless, Richard Sherman and Keyshawn Johnson discuss Los Angeles Chargers QB Justin Herbert. The cast break down Herbert’s performance vs. Dallas Cowboys, talk career projection and decide if the former first round pick is overrated.
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  • @UndisputedOnFS1
    @UndisputedOnFS1  9 місяців тому +7

    Watch Number One College Football Show with RJ Young: foxs.pt/no1showrj

  • @jewelarchon
    @jewelarchon 9 місяців тому +255

    It's amazing how many excuses they will invent for certain quarterbacks, but shift narratives for others!

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 9 місяців тому

      The media drives disinformation Herbert is lock for 4k 30 TDs every year he’s consistently consistent while everything around him is inconsistent

    • @ceasarmyles1059
      @ceasarmyles1059 9 місяців тому +37

      I always say this... the metrics for greatness tends to shift depending on the qb that's being talked about 🤔

    • @percyvaughan
      @percyvaughan 9 місяців тому +9

      Exactly 💯. Even more if they like you or not.

    • @boogidwnej179
      @boogidwnej179 9 місяців тому +2

      Facts!!

    • @RUTHLESSambition5
      @RUTHLESSambition5 9 місяців тому +59

      They make excuses for all wyte QBs who struggle. Herbert hasnt won a playoff game in year 4. They expected Lamar to win a Superbowl in year 1

  • @BackcountryCamWA
    @BackcountryCamWA 9 місяців тому +43

    I'm just here for Sherm's facial expressions.

    • @professorzoom4467
      @professorzoom4467 9 місяців тому +2

      Super Bowl Lost Facial Expression Classic 😵😂😂

    • @paulroland5053
      @paulroland5053 9 місяців тому

      90% of communication is non verbal

  • @AIR-CRAFT-CARRIER
    @AIR-CRAFT-CARRIER 9 місяців тому +106

    Herbert does throw rockets to nowhere sometimes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Isaac1ofone
      @Isaac1ofone 9 місяців тому +4

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ciearlrichardson3132
      @ciearlrichardson3132 9 місяців тому +1

      The eagle has landed 🤣🤣🚀

    • @JohnnyCdz
      @JohnnyCdz 9 місяців тому

      He doesn't have any touch.. all fast balls

    • @AIR-CRAFT-CARRIER
      @AIR-CRAFT-CARRIER 9 місяців тому

      @@JohnnyCdz He has touch, Brandon Staley just a terrible play caller.

    • @wells6351
      @wells6351 9 місяців тому

      @@AIR-CRAFT-CARRIERyou do know Brandon Staley doesn’t call the offensive plays, right?

  • @divinetiger9756
    @divinetiger9756 9 місяців тому +16

    Sherman is 100% right, Tua never got a pass! Everyone thought he sucked except loyal dolphins fans like myself

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 9 місяців тому

      He never put up numbers before Hill and McDaniels got their

    • @divinetiger9756
      @divinetiger9756 9 місяців тому +7

      @@isaiahh4108 yes that's exactly my point, he had a coach sabotaging him and that never wanted him. Environment matters and tua was criticized more than anyone while Herbert never got criticized

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 9 місяців тому +1

      @@divinetiger9756 Herbert has somehow had 2 HC worse than Tua’s somehow. Tua has limited talent he deserves the scrutiny he’s limited. Herbert’s talent is being limited by that terrible organization

    • @divinetiger9756
      @divinetiger9756 9 місяців тому +5

      @@isaiahh4108 tua is more accurate and his anticipation is better than Herbert. Not everything is arm strength, IQ matters too

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 9 місяців тому +2

      @@divinetiger9756 Herbert is closer to Tua in accuracy and anticipation than Tua is to Herbert natural physical gifts it’s that simple Herbert is still surgical while attempting higher difficulty throws at a higher rate watch his tape Herbert can do everything Tua can. Same can’t be said the other way.

  • @Rosepapi
    @Rosepapi 9 місяців тому +70

    They make so many excuses for Herbert because of his talent. No other QB gets a pass like Herbert. Dude is really good but not elite.

    • @df6148
      @df6148 9 місяців тому +3

      Because he’s an Oregon Duck 🦆 and they represent “Victory” because Nike Headquarters come from that university. Can’t have their pride and glory QB stinking up the place. But now…he’s running out of excuses.
      The league is sponsored by Nike

    • @ChristianGerhardstein
      @ChristianGerhardstein 9 місяців тому

      @@df6148damn that was the dumbest thing I’ve read on the internet today

    • @taichisavage
      @taichisavage 9 місяців тому

      Cause he’s white, he’ll be alright

    • @b.r3228
      @b.r3228 9 місяців тому +10

      Exactly. Carr had great arm talent but had a million coaches/coordinators and receivers. No one gave him any excuses. Herbert is Jay Cutler 2.0

    • @ChristianGerhardstein
      @ChristianGerhardstein 9 місяців тому +4

      @@b.r3228 cutler at his best was never on the same level as Herbert’s worst deason

  • @japmangeorgiaboy870
    @japmangeorgiaboy870 9 місяців тому +34

    Herbert missed 3 TD's passes last night too.He's good but he had some choked throws last night.

    • @timothyjett8950
      @timothyjett8950 9 місяців тому +4

      Hebert Has Choked Throws Every Game!!!😜😂The Chargers Will Continue To Lose If Herbert Can't Find Someone Else To Pass Too Besides Keenan Allen!!!Teams Are About To Key On That*just watch*They Only Thing That Kept The Chargers In The Game Last Night Was There Defense And Allen!!!*in my opinion*

    • @mr.papagiorgio1199
      @mr.papagiorgio1199 9 місяців тому +1

      Cowgirls suck...no superbowl soon😂😂

    • @timothyjett8950
      @timothyjett8950 9 місяців тому +3

      @@mr.papagiorgio1199 see I didn't say the Cowboys were going to a superbowl hater!!!😜😂so why you going to comment that on here???which had nothing to do with the Cowboys going to the superbowl!!?please explain🤦🏾‍♂️and they will go back before Herbert or the chargers do,and possibly Josh Allen and the bills!!!

    • @mr.papagiorgio1199
      @mr.papagiorgio1199 9 місяців тому

      @@timothyjett8950 yall can barely beat a qb with a broken figure...purdy makes less and fuked yall over...prescunt is overated and yall wont ever make it , its been written in stone...cant even get pass the niners 🤣🤣

    • @Wegood1355
      @Wegood1355 9 місяців тому +2

      @@timothyjett8950herbert has 1 good receiver the other two are bad

  • @kb4231
    @kb4231 9 місяців тому +20

    Sherm put it perfectly

    • @dhehdbdbsshshsbsbs
      @dhehdbdbsshshsbsbs 9 місяців тому

      He put it perfectly for the casuals, anyone who has played or actually watches the game of football knows its not his fault

    • @obynoomere1280
      @obynoomere1280 9 місяців тому

      Big time

    • @kb4231
      @kb4231 9 місяців тому +1

      @dhehdbdbsshshsbsbs All his fault? Absolutely not, but it also shouldn't be everytime blame the coaching staff.

    • @helicopterhelicopter3575
      @helicopterhelicopter3575 9 місяців тому

      @@dhehdbdbsshshsbsbssherm hasn’t played??? Fool

  • @AliFrankTheTank
    @AliFrankTheTank 9 місяців тому +21

    12 Touchdowns, 2 Turnovers. Horrible coach and mike will or allen go down for the full szn every year

  • @heygraberyo
    @heygraberyo 9 місяців тому +65

    From a Raiders fan, I think Herbert is great. If Brandon Staley settles for a field goal on fourth down vs. the Cowboys it’s a different game. So many times has he made idiotic coaching decisions that cost him the game. Or he gets bailed out by his defense in such a last second lucky fashion.

    • @theraiderrundown
      @theraiderrundown 9 місяців тому +6

      Herbert don’t have that “it” factor he’s a good qb but he doesn’t have that factor

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 9 місяців тому +18

      @@theraiderrundownbro you on the internet talking bout a it factor we know you don’t got it

    • @ChildishE
      @ChildishE 9 місяців тому

      @@theraiderrundownhow many 4th down completions does he have against the raiders?

    • @dhehdbdbsshshsbsbs
      @dhehdbdbsshshsbsbs 9 місяців тому +2

      @@theraiderrundown bro said he don't got that it factor when he 5-3 against ur poverty franchise and would be 6-3 if his coach didn't call a timeout 😂

    • @RUTHLESSambition5
      @RUTHLESSambition5 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@theraiderrundownthese wyte people will praise that bum😂😂 He looks the part and that's all that matters. They hyped up these QBs who flame out

  • @gj0628
    @gj0628 9 місяців тому +10

    Sherman “‘and he’s not getting it done”

  • @theblinkerx
    @theblinkerx 9 місяців тому +70

    No hes not overrated. Staley is simply not a NFL head coach & it’s beginning to stain Herbert’s reputation. He was selected to lead a top 5 roster & oversee Herb’s Development with minimal NFL experience. He by himself lost that team 4 games and cost them a playoff spot his rookie year. Blows the playoff lead & got saved multiple times by the talent this year. Chargers are ruining there franchise guy because theyre a bad organization

    • @TheBrotherHoodSports
      @TheBrotherHoodSports 9 місяців тому +32

      Staley didn't throw that Int and miss open receivers. Herbert did.

    • @bdawg2690
      @bdawg2690 9 місяців тому +11

      Staley wasn’t the hc Herbert’s rookie year 😂

    • @illusion2438
      @illusion2438 9 місяців тому +13

      All these damn excuses. At some point you just have to make the throws. Herbert couldn’t.

    • @VGHistory1
      @VGHistory1 9 місяців тому +9

      Herbie is severely overrated.

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 9 місяців тому +4

      @@VGHistory1what’s overrated he’s been a top 10 QB since day 1

  • @MrDboydeluxe
    @MrDboydeluxe 9 місяців тому +20

    And I thought Carson Wentz had the ultimate media pass nothing compared to what Herbert gets, I wonder why? Can you imagine if Dak threw that INT on the last drive? espn and FS1 would be going crazy.

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 9 місяців тому +1

      Bro has EVERY passing record clearly he’s doing his job

    • @lanesplitter5685
      @lanesplitter5685 9 місяців тому +1

      dak threw 3 ints the previous week. ofc the media would go crazy lol

  • @TheBrotherHoodSports
    @TheBrotherHoodSports 9 місяців тому +43

    If Kirk Cousins grew his hair out and put on a Herbert jersey noone would know the difference.

  • @6ixCellphones
    @6ixCellphones 9 місяців тому +47

    Herbert's problem is a lack of 🎉 leadership. He seems really laid back or scared to step up to teammates/coaches.

    • @B_T.E.A.M.
      @B_T.E.A.M. 9 місяців тому +1

      No dog at all

    • @LeA-gp3mj
      @LeA-gp3mj 9 місяців тому +2

      He's no rivers

    • @B_T.E.A.M.
      @B_T.E.A.M. 9 місяців тому

      @@LeA-gp3mj I say the thing lol

    • @JohnnyCdz
      @JohnnyCdz 9 місяців тому +1

      He's not an assassin. You need to be that to beat Mahones

    • @LeA-gp3mj
      @LeA-gp3mj 9 місяців тому

      @JohnnyCdz he's a beta more concerned about his hair 250 million contract lol

  • @gridirongod4207
    @gridirongod4207 9 місяців тому +87

    The more games the Chargers lose the sooner they fire Brandon STALEy

    • @freshprincetk
      @freshprincetk 9 місяців тому +11

      His firing is way way overdue. The epic meltdown to the Jaguars in the playoffs last year should've been the final nail in the coffin

    • @dominiquerosemond5682
      @dominiquerosemond5682 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@freshprincetkStaley deserves blame for that, but why does Herbert escape criticism for that?

    • @hungmeow8284
      @hungmeow8284 9 місяців тому

      Chargers have talent but their coaches are trash. At least 3 failed red zones. Cannot win games like that

    • @hungmeow8284
      @hungmeow8284 9 місяців тому

      PUT PURDY WITH THIS CHARGER TEAM HE WILL SUCK. THE NINERS HAVE A STACKED OFFENSE AND DEFENSE. PURDY WAS PUT IN WITH AN ALREADY MADE TEAM. PUT PURDY IN ANOTHER TEAM SEE HOW HE WILL DO THAT IS NOT THE CHIEFS, BILLS, EAGLES, NINERS ETC. PLACE HIM WITH THE PATRIOTS OR PANTHERS I BET YOU HE WILL SUCK.

    • @damerey5232
      @damerey5232 9 місяців тому

      @@hungmeow8284herbert was late on some reads and then obviously had some misses to keenan, it’s okay to give herbert some blame here and there yall can’t blame branden staley for everything lmao

  • @Rod904
    @Rod904 9 місяців тому +21

    Thank you sherman!!! I'm tired of the Hebert excuses. I don't care about his numbers. Is it leading to winning?? No. His chargers uniform is ironic because he's literally Philip rivers all over again

  • @Huddy3bafl
    @Huddy3bafl 9 місяців тому +2

    “Zac Taylor was a first year coach, Mike McDaniels was a first year coach” yea, they’re GOOD coaches.. Staley isn’t

  • @zaclogic6207
    @zaclogic6207 9 місяців тому +11

    Skip: "whats the most important quality in a quarterback? Accuracy"
    Tua: whats his best quality? Accuracy.
    Also Skip: "Im not sold on Tua cause he has a noodle arm."

    • @MattAlbie
      @MattAlbie 9 місяців тому

      Well, what does noodle arm mean? To me it means lack of strength/deep ball, not inaccurate.

    • @ggbchronicles7355
      @ggbchronicles7355 9 місяців тому

      ​@@MattAlbietua has plenty arm...sure...not in the top 5 ... but he can make all the throws

  • @user-lt1fx2he5s
    @user-lt1fx2he5s 9 місяців тому +7

    “The padding of the stats are there, but winning the game isn’t”

    • @df6148
      @df6148 9 місяців тому +1

      And that’s the 🔑

  • @L0rdT0nY
    @L0rdT0nY 9 місяців тому +2

    That's ancient history but was fresh when Skip always mentioned Tebow run lol

  • @AfroSmurph
    @AfroSmurph 9 місяців тому +9

    Gotta judge him by their environment too. But he's a 52 mil man. Gotta be better now

  • @mambamentality6148
    @mambamentality6148 9 місяців тому +5

    Richardson so dead on with his takes, and then you have a Keyshawn 😂😂

    • @IAEMThatIAEM
      @IAEMThatIAEM 6 місяців тому

      unless it's about Seattle or San Francisco

  • @chocktalk
    @chocktalk 9 місяців тому +12

    not hearing Herbert over Tua anymore, lmao

    • @johnsamsjr8670
      @johnsamsjr8670 9 місяців тому +6

      It's still herbert over Tua

    • @Wegood1355
      @Wegood1355 9 місяців тому

      Tua hasn’t played well against a good defense 4 td 4 int💩

    • @dhehdbdbsshshsbsbs
      @dhehdbdbsshshsbsbs 9 місяців тому +2

      who's talking about tua? He can barely stay on the field, he's left handed Purdy, as soon as tyreek retires I wouldn't expect anything special from him

    • @GregSB1
      @GregSB1 9 місяців тому

      27-14 > 27-27

  • @aaronarmijo7453
    @aaronarmijo7453 9 місяців тому

    Got em with the “go back and look at it” 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Jarele58
    @Jarele58 9 місяців тому +19

    They gotta quit giving all of these damn excuses

  • @Luh_kinky
    @Luh_kinky 9 місяців тому +4

    Phillip rivers was also talented but what did he win with the chargers? Nothing🤔

  • @isaiahh4108
    @isaiahh4108 9 місяців тому +4

    Damn the Burrow carried Bengal’s to the SB narrative is wild like the WR core wasn’t the best and the defense wasn’t top 10 like do ppl understand football

    • @jasonmahr5397
      @jasonmahr5397 9 місяців тому

      Burrow is the most overrated player in the NFL, and the biased media is 100% responsible for that.

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s 9 місяців тому

      Yes but he also had one of the worst offensive lines in the league

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 9 місяців тому +1

      @@user-lt1fx2he5s he had the best WR core that’s helps defenses have to respect the weaponry and when the offense stalled out which it did a lot during that run the defense carried

    • @SulfuricPro
      @SulfuricPro 9 місяців тому

      They went from 2 and 14 to the superbowl, in 2 years, with an unproven coach

    • @jasonmahr5397
      @jasonmahr5397 9 місяців тому +1

      @@SulfuricPro The Jamarr Chase Effect. Chase is the best player on the Bengals, and he makes Burrow.

  • @elliottwhavers5533
    @elliottwhavers5533 9 місяців тому

    Sherm with the spider man point 😂😂😂

  • @mattdrummond9087
    @mattdrummond9087 9 місяців тому +9

    Justin is an awesome player....that being said...he isnt improving or getting worse either. That points to bad coaching.... he needs a new coach and he will be better. Just think what he would be if he was on the Chiefs or even the niners... im a KC fan but i kinda feel for him. He wont win anything with thay coach.

  • @HaezeusYT
    @HaezeusYT 9 місяців тому +44

    He’s not winning games because his coach is putting him and his team in the most inopportune situations and he’s burdened with the responsibility of digging them out of some of the craziest holes in nfl football

    • @TheBrotherHoodSports
      @TheBrotherHoodSports 9 місяців тому +26

      Yeah, a 28 point lead is a crazy hole to dig yourself out of. Oh wait...

    • @HaezeusYT
      @HaezeusYT 9 місяців тому +4

      The coach giving the other offense a short field by going for it on your own 21 doesn’t really help but go off king

    • @df6148
      @df6148 9 місяців тому +14

      He sucks when it matters most. Ain’t no hiding that

    • @HaezeusYT
      @HaezeusYT 9 місяців тому +1

      @@df6148 1 man can’t carry 21 other men and a head coach every week. The guy is still human

    • @df6148
      @df6148 9 місяців тому +12

      @@HaezeusYT he can if he’s a QB. Especially with all that talent they got. Last year with a 28 pt lead and 4 INTERCEPTIONS spotted by his defense at halftime vs the playoff jags. Why couldn’t he seal the game with conversions? Because he’s overrated that’s why.

  • @JamesASharp
    @JamesASharp 9 місяців тому +1

    As of now in the NFC East: QB Hurts - 7 INTs
    QB Howell - 6 INTs
    QB Jones - 6 INTs
    QB Dak Prescott - 4 INTs
    And yet, QB Hurts & QB Herbert gets a pass. 🤔🤔

    • @Bandicoot19
      @Bandicoot19 9 місяців тому

      Herbert has 2 interceptions on the year even less than Dak by what your saying he deserves a pass as well right?

  • @tonythomas2391
    @tonythomas2391 9 місяців тому +10

    Herbert doesn't need a great HC, just a really good one. Unfortunately, he has Brandon Staley.

  • @jessimong7690
    @jessimong7690 9 місяців тому +3

    Wait a minute tua had 3 offensive coordinators in 2 years year 2 he had 2 with Mike McDaniel he has the same offense coordinator for the first time since high school. Tua had 4 also people tend to forget that.

    • @alexcamacho9500
      @alexcamacho9500 9 місяців тому +1

      Tua’s offensive weapons are way better & barely beat Herbert. Herbert really only has keenan & Ekeler at times. Herbert with Tuas recievers & coach!? Cmon now. Don’t compare the two.

  • @Ali-wi8bx
    @Ali-wi8bx 9 місяців тому +1

    So sherm says that you can't keep making the excuse that herbert doesn't have a consistent OC yet because Tua and Burrow both had first time coaches too. DIfference is, Tua has mike mcdaniel, the smartest offensive coach in the nfl, and herbert has brandon staley, the smartest defensive coach in the nfl. Yes, herbert is to blame for this loss, but he had one bad game. He's been top 5 this year. Nobody talking about how Mahomes got outplayed by Zach Wilson because they won due to the refs bailing them, not because of mahomes.

    • @Bandicoot19
      @Bandicoot19 9 місяців тому

      Almost every Qb has had an atrocious game this year Herbert was objectively bad but the conversations people are having about him are weird. Jalen Hurts was objectively worst and people forgot about his game already

  • @Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om
    @Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om 9 місяців тому

    Purdy reminds me of Kurt Warner, but faster. Warner didn't have a rocket arm, but he was deadly accurate with the midrange passes.

  • @BrunoJaws
    @BrunoJaws 9 місяців тому +1

    Elite quarterbacks win games win playoff games go to Super Bowls. Herbert is very talented but lacks the intangibles to win consistently.

  • @hume1234561
    @hume1234561 9 місяців тому +1

    Skip is brilliant at presenting arguments and rationalising a conclusion. Keyshawn does the same but with a player's mentality.

  • @user-lt1fx2he5s
    @user-lt1fx2he5s 9 місяців тому +15

    Herbert is a symptom of modern evaluating. Ever since Patrick Mahomes wowed the league, the new gold standard and metric by which we measure QBs is arm talent. It’s always mattered, but it’s held in higher regard than the ability to be accurate, throw with anticipation and process information. Herbert has elite arm talent, but he isn’t consistently accurate, he can get rattled and he will make bad decisions. But because of his arm talent, he’s given a pass. Same with Josh Allen. Josh Allen for as peerless as he can be on a good day, can also gift wins to the other team. However, every year that is all forgotten. Especially, Herbert and Allen are judged by their highlights.
    One the flip side, you’ve got Tua and Purdy, who are both productive players, who win games and do it through accuracy, reading the game and throwing with anticipation. They are judged by their lowlights. Their successes are entirely attributed to the players around them. If evaluators want to go that route, what was Josh Allen before he got Diggs? They’re great player, without elite arm talent. As much as they’re not held in such high regard.

    • @Rondoo040
      @Rondoo040 9 місяців тому +2

      Nailed it! Same reason why Levis and Richardson had all that hype before the draft because all people cared about was the few highlights of them throwing rockets down the field to wide open receivers when in reality they are very inaccurate QBs. They just don't care about the intangibles no more that used to be the common trait great quaterbacks like Montana, Brady or Manning

    • @Wegood1355
      @Wegood1355 9 місяців тому

      @@Rondoo040richardson was amazing in the games he played lol

    • @Wegood1355
      @Wegood1355 9 місяців тому +1

      Purdy and tua live by the system

    • @jasonmahr5397
      @jasonmahr5397 9 місяців тому

      Stupid post. Jalen Hurts just gifted a Win for the Jets. Are you going to keep the same energy for Hurts?

    • @jasonmahr5397
      @jasonmahr5397 9 місяців тому

      No, the gold standard for QBs is Winning, and Josh Allen does a whole lot of said Winning. Say what you want about Allen, but the Wins speak for themselves:
      2019 = 10 Wins
      2020 = 13 Wins, plus 2 playoff wins
      2021 = 11 Wins, plus 1 playoff win (robbed of more playoff wins, see: 13 seconds)
      2022 = 13 Wins, plus 1 playoff win
      2023 = on pace for 11-12 wins
      Herbert has a career .500 record.
      Josh Allen is a Winning Machine. He gives the Bills a 10-Win FLOOR for the next 10 years.
      QBs are measured by Winning. All Josh Allen does is…WIN.

  • @EBerg225
    @EBerg225 9 місяців тому +7

    i wish Skip knew how to debate like them.

  • @daltonvanavery5859
    @daltonvanavery5859 9 місяців тому +1

    His winning with a super team put herbert on the 49ers and see how good he does 😂

  • @chino_2011
    @chino_2011 9 місяців тому +1

    It’s amazing how much Skip looks like the star of the Gremlins movie 🤣

    • @obynoomere1280
      @obynoomere1280 9 місяців тому

      😂😂😂 that's hilarious 😂

  • @schwarzmann1
    @schwarzmann1 9 місяців тому +1

    I like Herbert but he missed two throws where Keenan Allen was wide open and would’ve went for TDs. I don’t think Staley is a great HC but Herbert is not blameless he is at fault for losing this game as much as anyone

  • @Jeezy__
    @Jeezy__ 9 місяців тому +1

    I’ll rather have what I got with dak.. Herbert don’t change nun if he was in Dallas Keyshawn

  • @93091jshep
    @93091jshep 9 місяців тому +2

    Skip saying Justin Herbert isnt accurate just proves to me he doesnt watch the Chargers, hes one of the most accurate QBs in the league by far. Last night was just a bad game, and if you’ve ever had to throw a ball with broken finger on your offhand, you’d understand that stabilizing hand being hurt can and will affect your accuracy. And it showed last night

    • @boogidwnej179
      @boogidwnej179 9 місяців тому +1

      He’s not that accurate dude. He just has a bunch of tall receivers with wide catch radius that can Hall in off target passees… Kennan Allen 6’2, mike Williams 6’4, Quentin Williams 6’3… than he’s had Jared cook 6’4 and now Gerald Everette. 6’3… easy to complete passes when you have a bunch of tall receivers…

    • @93091jshep
      @93091jshep 9 місяців тому

      @@boogidwnej179 yes he is that accurate and you keep saying he has all these big targets yeah but they’re HURT half the time and he still balls so find another excuse. He has to be very accurate cuz he had nobody that can separate vertically and everything is contested. The one guy that got that could separate is hurt and they don’t play the rookies Davis and Johnston enough

  • @shmoneyho3550
    @shmoneyho3550 9 місяців тому

    richard and bart scott the realist analyzers in football talk

  • @shayeasy
    @shayeasy 9 місяців тому +1

    Herbert is 27-27 through 54 games. Mahomes is 80-20 through 100. No further questions.

  • @Huddy3bafl
    @Huddy3bafl 9 місяців тому +1

    “Once again wasn’t accurately consistent with the football” dude I’m a diehard bolts fan and that was the most inaccurate I’ve ever seen him. You’re talking to me like he does this every game??? He’s missing mike dub, he’s missing a competent coach and again this wasn’t a normal performance by him. And he has a broken hand… yall rlly just looking at those 2 overthrows to Keenan and running with it.

  • @thenorthernlowlight
    @thenorthernlowlight 9 місяців тому +5

    The chargers are weird Keenan is great when healthy but injury prone and like 32. Mike will might be the most injury prone receiver in football but more than that. What is Justin Herbert's biggest strength.. the ability to push the ball down the field. The chargers have ZERO speed and no receiver other than Keenan can run routes So they have no way to beat you down the field unless Mike Will catches a jump ball. And then they draft Johnston who is slow and can't get open when everyone knew Zay flowers was the right pick. Think about it people feared Herbert and the chargers most when Jalen Guyton of all people was running deep routes and Herbert would sling it. The offense just looks ugly and Herbert feels forced to make tight window throws every play

    • @TheBrotherHoodSports
      @TheBrotherHoodSports 9 місяців тому

      That's a long excuse you got there

    • @illusion2438
      @illusion2438 9 місяців тому +1

      His deep ball accuracy is terrible. He had guys open on big throws, he just missed them.

    • @boogidwnej179
      @boogidwnej179 9 місяців тому

      So he’s not good enuff to maje tight window throws? 😂😂 didn’t he just get paid ?

    • @thenorthernlowlight
      @thenorthernlowlight 9 місяців тому

      They get nothing easy is what I'm saying look at tua and Mahomes and Brock purdy even they get easy completions with open guys. Herbert doesn't get those

  • @aitorrodriguez6888
    @aitorrodriguez6888 9 місяців тому

    This makes 3/3 Cowboys uploads for the day. Jesus christ man. Can you guys cover other teams too?????

  • @notalkin7407
    @notalkin7407 9 місяців тому +4

    Herbert has 2 most game winning drives among active QBs and we watched his coach lose him games I don’t understand why Herbert gets so much hate

    • @isaiahh4108
      @isaiahh4108 9 місяців тому +2

      JEALOUSY

    • @Jeezy__
      @Jeezy__ 9 місяців тому +1

      Herbert don’t get enough hate wtf lol.. U must don’t kno what they do to dak

    • @boogidwnej179
      @boogidwnej179 9 місяців тому

      Game winning drives but has a below .500 winning %

  • @BlueCheese_DMV
    @BlueCheese_DMV 9 місяців тому +1

    Has the most 4th quarter interceptions in one score games since he’s been in the league, not that dude

  • @raplhadventure8912
    @raplhadventure8912 9 місяців тому +2

    Then called bogus double holding call when the cowboys is 3 and 19

  • @cash_junkie214
    @cash_junkie214 9 місяців тому

    Yooo long tall drink of water😂😂😂😂 that's crazy

  • @johnsamsjr8670
    @johnsamsjr8670 9 місяців тому

    Get qj more looks so it opens up the playbook more and keeps the opposition guessing on what herbert will do next

  • @thedreamsoldierful
    @thedreamsoldierful 9 місяців тому

    Its so weird how the description is just like Philip Rivers. Every year the yards & tds were there but the wins werent.

  • @rogerblewett5595
    @rogerblewett5595 9 місяців тому +2

    If Lamar Jackson had the game that Herbert had the media would be killing him

  • @brettheintschel3506
    @brettheintschel3506 9 місяців тому +3

    Like I said if the cowboys don’t put up a million yards a game or break records then they still get hated in when they win

    • @SulfuricPro
      @SulfuricPro 9 місяців тому

      Cuz they only beat dysfunctional teams

  • @user-lt1fx2he5s
    @user-lt1fx2he5s 9 місяців тому +1

    “You hear guys talk about this is why Brock Purdy isn’t in their top 5 MVP candidate because he doesn’t have these measurables”

  • @christopherwilliams477
    @christopherwilliams477 9 місяців тому +3

    Harbaugh will have this job! You heard it first from me!

    • @dhehdbdbsshshsbsbs
      @dhehdbdbsshshsbsbs 9 місяців тому +1

      Let them hate on Herbert fam, give that man a good coach and they all got be eating there words, bros a walking bazooka

  • @la_chargers21
    @la_chargers21 9 місяців тому

    No stable o' line. Losing Corey Linsley was huge. Also Kellen Moore has a penchant for injuring his QBs. Dak was always injured when Moore was OC. With a broken finger, healing ribs from last yr, etc Herbert is doing great with what he's dealt with.

  • @pinkmarshmallow1477
    @pinkmarshmallow1477 9 місяців тому +2

    Dallas expoited the weak link on the O Line (RT - Trey Pipkins).

  • @tyronegrant3422
    @tyronegrant3422 9 місяців тому +2

    The arguments Keyshawn used could apply to Russ yet they excuse Herbert and obliterate Russ lol

    • @ciearlrichardson3132
      @ciearlrichardson3132 9 місяців тому +2

      Kee need that fox deposit in his checking
      account...Dats all 🤣🤣 he'll say whatever
      Jus Like skipper

    • @wjwade55
      @wjwade55 9 місяців тому

      Yeah but you kinda have to expect more from Russ being a Super Bowl winning qb. Besides most of the great ones needed time to even get to the caliber of QB to even be in a Super Bowl convo let alone have winning records. Y’all just want everything instantly.

  • @briangates1451
    @briangates1451 9 місяців тому +1

    Never u mention Antonio Gates, a great TE

  • @suv3534
    @suv3534 9 місяців тому

    Never forget when they tried comparing Herbert to Mahomes lmfaoooooo

  • @kgthegreatone943
    @kgthegreatone943 9 місяців тому +3

    I think it's more of the coaching than Justin.

  • @liamfahey4001
    @liamfahey4001 9 місяців тому

    Justin Herbert has led the most game-winning drives in the NFL since he arrived in the league. 14 drives. The argument is that he’s not clutch? We watch MNF and decide that he always is his worst performance, but in general we ignored his monstrous performance against Minnesota, and the fact that more often than not, he plays like one of the very best quarterback in the NFL and doesn’t get half the plates or attention that is given to some of the other “elites“. I’m not sure why we’re acting as though he’s constantly celebrating, in reality we are constantly told he doesn’t have it in the clutch, he is in the leader, But the only problem is that every single stat minus wins, which is absolutely not a quarterback stat, do not back it up the most game-winning drives in the NFL since his arrival. 4 1/2 thousand passing yards last year through broken ribs. Calling him a wimpis absolutely insane and shameful. Calling him worse than DAC is mine Bach. I’m disgusted.

  • @Alexchamplooo
    @Alexchamplooo 9 місяців тому

    If this is Herbert’s bad game, and you are all bashing him, that’s crazy, he literally has to a superhero to win the game, hurts can throw 7 pics in 6 weeks and everyone brushes it off

  • @davidglessner6405
    @davidglessner6405 9 місяців тому

    He never misses those passes🤣

  • @mikrod9157
    @mikrod9157 9 місяців тому +1

    That game was hard to watch Dallas should have ran away with it but kept it close for ratings that is all

  • @anomalytv5903
    @anomalytv5903 9 місяців тому

    I’ll tell you who can throw a laser with more velocity than Herbert, the kid in Indy

  • @JaCrispy1904
    @JaCrispy1904 9 місяців тому

    1 bad game and everyone callin herbert average like he ain't one of the Elite QB's in the NFL 💀💀💀😂😂

  • @QuayTheDon817
    @QuayTheDon817 9 місяців тому

    8:57 Rich bro say Pause you sound like Skip

  • @stevemadrid6522
    @stevemadrid6522 9 місяців тому

    Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, and Trevor Lawrence, all continuously hyped as "The Next Big Thing," but have yet to produce. Yes Herbert, Allen, and Lawrence are physically what you want your QB to be, but in the NFL results matter. Look at the hate some other QBs get for not producing.

  • @leeharvey7593
    @leeharvey7593 9 місяців тому +1

    2:20 Ancient history? Boy he's the one to talk. Skip still bringing the 2011 NBA Finals whenever he wants to discredit LeBron. He's the last person to say "that's old news", all your arguments are old news.

  • @Williamswartz
    @Williamswartz 9 місяців тому

    Wait what did dak do last week?😂😂

  • @lovemebaby957
    @lovemebaby957 9 місяців тому +1

    "you play to win the game"

  • @GohanZ678
    @GohanZ678 9 місяців тому +1

    As a charger fan, Herbert is not clutch and needs everything to go perfect in order to win. We rarely win because of him.

    • @boogidwnej179
      @boogidwnej179 9 місяців тому

      Thank you!!

    • @Bandicoot19
      @Bandicoot19 9 місяців тому

      When has he had everything go perfect “Chargers” fan? Your not a fan of the Chargers bruh there is no way😂

    • @GohanZ678
      @GohanZ678 9 місяців тому

      @@Bandicoot19 lol bro trust me. Go watch our games,

    • @Bandicoot19
      @Bandicoot19 9 місяців тому

      @@GohanZ678 your not a Chargers fan man because when has Herbert ever had everything go perfect. Like you dead told on yourself

  • @5starathlete804
    @5starathlete804 9 місяців тому +1

    First team all potential

  • @xForceGhost_
    @xForceGhost_ 9 місяців тому

    It blows my mind the excuses they make for certain QBs to give them a pass for poor performance. What has Herbert ever done? Most 4th qtr INT in the entire league when his team is losing by 1 possession or less since he came to the NFL, on top of the 27 - 27 record. This dude hasn't improved at all since his rookie year and it doesn't matter what division he's in, it's not good enough

  • @Dell_214
    @Dell_214 9 місяців тому

    5:20 man shut up with Beverly Hills dinner! Shannon said you never went no where when he worked there.

  • @raplhadventure8912
    @raplhadventure8912 9 місяців тому

    Fr the head coach needs to go fr I don't understand why they did same play another he jus got sacked then decided to use both of the time out with over two mins left

  • @df6148
    @df6148 9 місяців тому +2

    TIM TEBOW had UGLY wins.
    HERBERT has BEAUTIFUL LOSSES
    I’d rather WIN!

  • @japmangeorgiaboy870
    @japmangeorgiaboy870 9 місяців тому

    Herbert still be balling he needs to be in a offensive system AKA a better coordinator

  • @goldteethpoohproductions2707
    @goldteethpoohproductions2707 9 місяців тому +1

    He has the most PASSING Yards and TDS his first 4 years in NFL history and his record is 27-27
    If you don't think bad coaching and bad defense has nothing to do with that idk what to tell you.
    Also 14 of those 27 wins are come from behind wins

  • @kifley19
    @kifley19 9 місяців тому +1

    Justin Herbert is Jay Cutler 2.0

  • @brianlee3932
    @brianlee3932 9 місяців тому

    How about you just let the guy play ball. He did his thing just came up short. The overrated question is dumb.

  • @jaglax01
    @jaglax01 9 місяців тому

    Unpopular opinion Herbert becoming a better version of Kirk Cousins but still folds in big moments

  • @HDBabey
    @HDBabey 9 місяців тому

    Herbert had one great rookie season and now he just has the benefit of the doubt even though he hasn't done anything in this league. What happened to results driven analysis? You gotta accomplish something. And I get it, it's a team sport and it doesn't all fall on Justin but at some point, you gotta do something. I'm not asking for a lot... I'm talking about getting some playoff wins. The playoffs are the only thing that reigns supreme

  • @alumsey4013
    @alumsey4013 9 місяців тому

    Brock Purdy is a bad comparison. Purdy has a top defense and a great RB. That matters big time.

  • @FlyyWrld
    @FlyyWrld 9 місяців тому

    Does it make Dak generational being that Herbert has never been able to beat Dak

  • @Skatermonkey5
    @Skatermonkey5 9 місяців тому

    I get it Herbert looked off last night but you can't sit here and say wins are a QB stat because they're more of a coaching stat if anything. Since it takes a whole team to win not 1 player. Get Herbert a real head coach like Andy Reid or even an offensive mind like McDaniel and watch him play better. Tua has improved so much with changing Brian Flores for McDaniel because coaching is just that important. Herbert will continue to play and do what he can and yes that Int he threw was horrible decision making by him but its also not fair for a QB to be thrown into a do or die situation in damn near 90% of his starts. Only 1 game the Chargers comfortably won without him needed to play hero ball from what I remember was beating the Colts 20-3 last season. He's definitley elite, not over rated, and he's an extremely talented player. His excuses are legit in most of his losses he has done what a QB should do to win the team falls apart majority of the time.

  • @StuntmanBeatz313
    @StuntmanBeatz313 9 місяців тому

    It’s not way you can ignore the horrible coaching in LA & put it all on Herbert

  • @kosmicj4310
    @kosmicj4310 9 місяців тому

    Tf does he mean by consistently inaccurate? Obviously skip hasn’t watched his film he’s crazy accurate he jus had a bad game

  • @WhyScales23
    @WhyScales23 9 місяців тому

    Guess we are going to ignore his WR being hurt and his defense being below average

  • @TheRotbringer
    @TheRotbringer 9 місяців тому

    He’s in good hands with Kellen Moore. He will most likely become head coach

  • @damewhin
    @damewhin 9 місяців тому

    Skip really said he would rarher have Dak over Herbert....yeah sure

  • @martinsleight321
    @martinsleight321 8 місяців тому

    Just imagine if Herbert gets a great coach. Keyshawn is on point. Herbert being inaccurate is a weird, recent narrative. If he was inaccurate, he wouldn't have the stats would he?

  • @TheProphegy
    @TheProphegy 9 місяців тому

    I fear he will end up like Phillip Rivers. A great QB talent with a great supporting cast, who ultimately never goes anywhere. Just like Rivers’ Chargers, there will be hope every year and it will fail. Their current HC sucks.

  • @samcrow6900
    @samcrow6900 9 місяців тому

    Damn, Skip and Shannon always only bet Diet Dew, never dinner.