Met life and turf fields are way worse on players knees, nfl needs to make it Mandatory for grass fields in every stadium its way better on players bodies.
Every ACL tear I've witnessed was on my high school's astro turf football field. My buddy in 7th grade on the high school field, 3 kids my freshman year, 2 my sophomore year, and I don't even know how many on Varsity. My buddy had to have both of his knees replaced at 17 after a simple contact drill at practice destroyed his right knee and tore two ligaments in his left. Doctors told him it was a freak accident, but I have a hard time believing the field had nothing to do with it.
Feel for him. Just tore my ACL via a contact injury playing basketball last month. Just got surgery last week and now in rehab. My anatomy was actually favorable to acl protection but these injuries can be so random. Hope we have speedy recovery
This is absolutely wild. I have torn my right ACL twice unfortunately at a young age ending my athletic career early on but this has got to be the strangest ACL tear I have ever seen
i believe he has a history of hamstring issues but i’m not sure which side of the body he’s had those issues on. i feel that a combination of decreased active stability from the hamstrings combined with possible decreased eccentric control from the L gastrocsoleus complex related to his achilles injury led to increased anterior translation of the L tibia straining the ACL. would love to see a frontal plane view of the injury though.
Poor kid, I hope he makes a full recovery, this happened to me in my 40's and it's hell the rehab but he's an athlete and they have the best doctors, unlike us insurances don't even want to pay for anything, so hopefully he can play next season.
I think that he is just doing his job describing a part of life that is injuries and he put in a lot of work on medical school and no one is forcing you to watch like or subscribe.
If you watch his knee when he is planting to slow down you can see the thigh kind of slide to the outside and rotate slightly because he is looking back. It’s slight and quickly obscured by the right leg but you can see the impact and the slight movement from it. I’ve had my knees shift and just give out on me before stopping like that. Luckily nothing tore but I could easily see it happening.
@@frankthetank520 yep. I also was taking some Taekwondo classes and when doing forward rolls I could feel my knee shift to the side as I came out of them. It seemed to do it every time so I stopped taking the classes. Didn’t want to risk something blowing out.
I just wanna say it's crazy how we all take stuff like this for granted. These athletes put their bodies through absolute hell. Training most likely multiple hours each day intensely, then playing a high contact, extremely fast paced and physical sport. They push their bodies to the absolute limit and it's crazy. Also, I'm not qualified whatsoever but I could only assume that having injuries in the hamstring, quads, achilles, etc could only make knee injuries, and other lower body injuries, even more likely
A lot of wide receivers are taught to do out toeing and pronate when doing footwork and cutting which is why I feel like acl injuries have been occurring way more frequently these days
Great video as always! Only thing I would have liked to see you cover more is how the past Achilles tear could have played a role in causing this tear.
Consider this. Catching the right toe part way through the stride would cause a sudden stiffening of the left leg quads to catch his balance. The left knee was flexed and relaxing. The quick reversal would jerk the ligaments. Seems to me.
What is most likely is that his quads and hammies were *NOT* flexed meaning he was slowing down completely skeletally. This transfers the burden of stopping on the passive components of the knee.
you can't run or move without those muscle firing 😂. just putting his leg down and going limp he is still using some type fo muscle group to put his leg down.
Yeah this makes sense to me. I play flag football and can really feel the difference between actively slowing down in a controlled way, and when I’m tired and kinda just flopping my feet down. I do have a feeling the turf made a difference here like if he flopped his left foot down but it got caught a little early and then all the force of his weight went into his acl at a funky angle
Is it possible that while he was running a partial tear happened that he didn't notice, but this moment where he's slowing down was the perfect moment his knee to completely tear?
Seems like he was in pretty substantial pain. Any explanation as to why sometimes ACL tears seem extremely painful and why they sometimes just look like they cause more of a discomfort?
I believe the majority of pain comes from tearing your meniscus at the same time as the ACL. If the meniscus is not damaged there would be minimal pain.
@@Ice717 I've torn it once in each knee and I'll have 3 meniscus repairs when it's all said and done. Tearing the acl hurts like a mofo. It's right on the edge of where you want to pass out, especially if it's hot outside when you do it.
I tore my ACL years ago playing street hockey in a non-contact play. I was running and slowing down as i was reaching the corner and as I was slowing down I felt my knee give out and when I tried to stand up it gave right out again.
i believe sterling shepard didnt get enough time to heal his previous injury so maybe thats why his knee kind of exploded but it looked kind of similar to danilo gallinari's where he just planted awkwardly
This happened a few years back to a chargers player in training camp. Just warm-ups and he tore it running. Can't remember his name, not even sure if he made the team or is in the league anymore
Sometimes I’ll just feel random pops or clicks in parts of my body for seemingly no particular reason and I fear one of these days it’ll be some serious injury like an ACL. Hasn’t happened yet but the human body can be so weird sometimes.
I had 1/4 of my meniscus removed in my knee and a ganglion cyst as well that was tucked deep in my knee. That same knee also has a deficient acl. My drawer test is pretty sloppy 😂
Doesn't it seem like non-contact leg injuries (ACL/MCL, ankle, etc) are occurring more often? I don't remember this happening to guys in the NFL prior to 2012. Guys now are just running down the field and their knees pop. I still think the let up on practices during the week lays the foundation for this happening.
@@broncosbreaks They played on absolutely garbage Astro turf in the 70s and 80s. I don't remember this happening at any level. Not sure if you remember Veterans stadium in Philly. The plywood would become exposed during games. Even Giants stadium turf was like concrete. Pittsburgh was no better. But I never saw Rice, Monk or Lynn Swan blow out a knee on a pattern. Maybe it's the way they train now, not sure. Something is up. Way too often.
I think it was how hard he was heel planting. If you look at his foot he was planting completely with his heel which causes instability, and combined with instability of turn it looks like his fibula just slid forward
I tore my ACL skiing, and this mechanism of injury is similar to ski racers jumping off "pro bumps". There's video evidence of skiers landing the jumps, and the force will shear the ACL. The lower leg stops, and the femur continues forward.
@Brian Sutterer MD would you consider making a video about common sports issues such as shin splints, cramps, etc.? I play lacrosse and have issues with those and would love to see a video about common sports “injuries”.
I know this would be from a number of years ago, and you may have already covered it, but I would be interested to hear your thoughts on Georges St-Pierre's (GSP's) ACL tear.
3:03, if you watch closely his knee slightly moves inwards towards his other leg. Would that be before or after the ACL is torn? Could that have been the precursor to the tear, or the immediate aftermath?
I think it is mainly the style of play. Rugby is a lot rougher by nature, but most tendon injuries in football seem to happen in non-contact incidents. I don't really think the turf is too blame as there are some grass fields that are infamous for causing injuries, FedEx field is a good example. Has singlehandedly claimed multiple careers and numerous ACLs.
Odd injury, I have lingering pain in my Achilles when slowing down after badly spraining my ankle a few years ago. Feels like a backwards mechanic, but I guess the body does what it wants
I sprained my ankle plenty of times and ended up tearing my Achilles, don't ignore the ankle and look up ways to strengthen the ankle. I would suggest resistance bands and a bosu ball
Recovering from a torn Achilles here. You should work on strengthening your tib muscle. Lmk if you need any exercises I’ve felt so much more stability ever since working on it
@@ernie1410 yo i got some stuff going on with my achilles right now. I was dealing with some soreness upon which i went to pt for and i felt more mobility coming from my feet. but when i tried to play soccer last week, i felt my foot give out on me while i was running. idk if it was my achilles or my soleus. but any exercises will be good cuz im not trying to hurt myself
My son just tore his ACL in a non contact play during practice (he's a sophomore in high school) we thought there maybe some genetic thing going on because he was having pain towards the rear making us think the PCL was damaged and I tore my PCL and MCL my junior year in high school, but my injury was contact (think Thiesman or Chubb) gruesome. Luckily he didn't damage any other ligament or his meniscus or patella so he should have a full recovery
Hope your son has a full recovery and can shake this off to get back on the field after getting healed up. I broke the bone right below my knee cap my junior year and man, it took me a while just to even walk again. It was painful.
I think in this situation was that his ACL was probably already weakened from previous games or during this game where the ACL was compromised by one of the plays….and then finally tears from just walking.
I had the same injury mechanism in 7th grade but ended up with a tibial plateau fracture instead of an ACL tear. I was told if I did it a few years later after I stopped growing it would’ve been the ACL rather than a fracture
He was turning his foot left, from the knee down, as he was looking back. He was running straight, his foot was about 30° turned out, putting the stopping force on his knee.
I am so glad that I don’t get hurt easily even though I am short 5”8. My body sure can take huge hits. I’ve never been injured before. I guess been a short man is not bad after all.
yeah first thing I was thinking was that there's gotta be more to the story, like a prior injury or something. even this mechanism looks weird AF like It could've been a patellar tendon. this feels like one of these knee injury urban legends we'll be referring back to in years to come
Just watching the few steps of him running at the start of the video and it looked like his feet always contacted the ground either mostly flat or at least after his toes already started rotating down towards the ground, but on the step where he got injured his foot landed just a split second earlier and all of his weight came down on the point of his heel while his toes were pointed more upwards and his heel acted almost like a fulcrum snapping the front of his foot down. I have no idea whether this contributed to the injury, was caused by the injury, or is completely unrelated to the injury but that last step just looked completely mechanically different than the previous steps with either foot.
Can you speak on what seemingly seems to be an increase in acl injuries at Metlife tgen? 2020 both Nick Bosa and Solomon Thomas had ACLs tears at Metlife in the same game. I understand the NFL is teaching lower tackling standards which increases ACL/Knee injuries. It just seems like something is up with using turf fields and injuries.
I think he would have noticed a partial tear. His knee would have felt “off” or “weak”. And weight bearing/trying to do cuts would have made it feel unstable.
I've always wondered if he would have just took the play off or rested the last minute of the game, would he have still tore his ACL eventually? Was his ACL on its last moments or did this "exact" activity cause its failure?
I always wondered the same for me. I have weightlifted forever and did strongman for years with no injuries at all. I played semi-pro for several years and always played the whole game. I always played both ways. This one game we only had 16 total players. I never came off the field. I had just picked off a screen, went on offense, ran an out route, QB threw me an off pass, I adjusted and it tore. Less than 5 minutes left in the game. I was 32 in 2015. I always wondered if I would’ve had some rest, if it would’ve prevented the strain, or if it was just that specific effort.
I gotta think if this happened while he was just basically jogging that this was a ticking time bomb. It’s probably more related to his previous injuries but if a ligament can break that easily without a lot pressure being forced on it I have to think it was an injury just waiting to happen. For some reason that ACL just wasn’t stable and it was only a matter of time before it gave out.
As a soccer player in a former life, I've been literal feet away from a couple of people this has happened to. A loud "SNAP" on the last step of deceleration. Both times were playing indoor soccer on turf. Soccer players have notoriously weak hamstrings, so maybe less of a surprise.
@@dictatorofcanada4238 The nature of the sport i.e. kicking strengthens the quads. Now, it may be better now than it was with modern training methods. Heck in the olden days, 25 years ago, soccer players didnt lift weights.
I think it got injured a play or two before. Someone landed on his legs awkwardly and I believe the slow down run was the final blow but i defer to you sir!
I've know people to get knee ligament tears doing the most innocuous things - step down a stair, putting on sock, getting out of a car. You twist just a little weirdly and it can sometimes just randomly pop.
Big ouch. He also seems to have all but stopped vertical motion of running while slowing down, and planted foot while relaxing those muscles, while still having a lot of forward momentum to decelerate.
Being quad dominant with under use / weak hamstring can knee inStability leads to strain / tear to ACL. I feel that why most athlete are heavy focus on quad and not enough on hamstring training lead to non acl tears. If hamstrings are under active the quads will Compensate. He has a history of hamstring that being said his Eccentric contraction is shot and the quad compensating inwhich that it’s not proper function maybe lead to acl torn
Does it possibly have anything to do with him landing on the back of his left foot on the step instead of the toes? Like his knee was expecting to make contact at a different point of the step so it compensated?
He lands awkwardly toe down on that step (rather than heel or midfoot). That would definitely put a lot of anterior loading on the knee and make it more prone to twisting.
I put him in my Fantasy lineup. That's how he tore his ACL running in a straight line. No science can explain this, it's simply an ancient curse at work here.
He landed on his outer heel area, which landed close to the center plane of the body as his body was tilted looking at the int? When his leg went down, the tortion in his upper hip was spent, so it had to twist elsewhere. Knee or ankle. Since his ankle was secure by the cleats in the grass, his knee had a rotation force on them. Just a guess.
Seems so ODD, that this caused a ACL rupture. He must of had a non symptomatic partial tear and this was the straw that broke the camels back. This guy HAS to be super strong, hard to imagine the injury was a muscle weakness issue.
When I saw this play happen live I immediately said "oh. He inside heel hooked himself." Toes point outward slightly. Heel pointed INSIDE (hence inside heel hook) Knee comes in. All bodyweight transferred to the ACL and MCL. Same mechanism of injury the inside heel hook is designed to produce. To me this injury is neither strange or confusing. I've had it done to me and done it to other people. Doc, you should do a few videos on certain MMA techniques and how some moves are designed to produce certain mechanisms for injury in a specific way. Like heel hooks, oblique kicks. I'm pretty sure you've done the liver kick already. The things you're aiming for in combat sports tend to be the same mechanism we tend to see happen in other sports accidentally.
As someone who tore their ACL (and both meniscus at the same time in one knee 😅) this video gave me ptsd, I legit had flashbacks lmao, my knee started feeling all kinds of weird
The guy is so talented yet his body keeps failing him. I feel so bad for him.
same here. One of my favorite Giant's player. He's had no luck.
that’s how it is unfortunately same case with luke keuchly
Same thing for Derrick rose
Remember Percy Harvin?
Dude would have ate this league up if he didn't have those...Migraines. he would have been an all time great.
Met life and turf fields are way worse on players knees, nfl needs to make it Mandatory for grass fields in every stadium its way better on players bodies.
Every ACL tear I've witnessed was on my high school's astro turf football field. My buddy in 7th grade on the high school field, 3 kids my freshman year, 2 my sophomore year, and I don't even know how many on Varsity. My buddy had to have both of his knees replaced at 17 after a simple contact drill at practice destroyed his right knee and tore two ligaments in his left. Doctors told him it was a freak accident, but I have a hard time believing the field had nothing to do with it.
I’m glad u said this there’s studies that believe artificial turf is causing this
Yes, terf+cleats =can’t plant and pivot
I guess moral of the story, get away from you. You seem to be a bad luck charm
@@mastixencounter LMAO
Could it be the cleats?
I did the same thing with the same mechanism to me about 7 months ago on turf. i am still recovering and feel for sterling.
The nfl needs to get rid of turf
players get injured on real grass too just sayin .
@@peterf.229 yeah I know but turf is actually proven to be linked to more injuries than grass. Nothing beats real grass
@@jaquillahillahfoodstamps way more injuries
@@futbolskillz1232 it’s like a 28% increase of injury on Turf or something crazy like that
Feel for him. Just tore my ACL via a contact injury playing basketball last month. Just got surgery last week and now in rehab. My anatomy was actually favorable to acl protection but these injuries can be so random. Hope we have speedy recovery
Bruh I just picked him up on fantasy the evening of the game. And he gets a torn acl on a noncontact injury.
look into pemf
Get you some healing peptides, like BPC-157, TB-500, etc.
Wishing you a full recovery!
Good luck bro. Rehab and recovery sucks but you can come out of it stronger than ever with the right mindset.
As a physical therapist it is fun listening to another professional breakdown some of these injuries. Keep up the good work!
This is absolutely wild. I have torn my right ACL twice unfortunately at a young age ending my athletic career early on but this has got to be the strangest ACL tear I have ever seen
i saw it happen and the way he grabbed his leg made me think he tore his acl but yeah it was weird
Sometimes it only takes one little step with cleats, tore my patellar tendon just from opening up for my first touch in soccer
Playing ping-pong?
Maybe his body lost mind / muscle connection from paying attention to what was going on behind him
Maybe he really didn't and was trying get back on IR lol. Metlife is bad worst fields in league
i believe he has a history of hamstring issues but i’m not sure which side of the body he’s had those issues on. i feel that a combination of decreased active stability from the hamstrings combined with possible decreased eccentric control from the L gastrocsoleus complex related to his achilles injury led to increased anterior translation of the L tibia straining the ACL. would love to see a frontal plane view of the injury though.
i agree
*nods politely*
way to over analyse it
@@kayzer3934 it’s not over analyzed
@@kayzer3934 its literally just an explanation lol
Poor kid, I hope he makes a full recovery, this happened to me in my 40's and it's hell the rehab but he's an athlete and they have the best doctors, unlike us insurances don't even want to pay for anything, so hopefully he can play next season.
Thanks for updating us on it i was just thinking about when u where gonna upload it too thank u again keep up the good work🙏
You bet! I was out of town and driving all weekend, just got back today so trying to catch up on vids !
Brian Sutterer’s motto is “No pain , no gain” because if no one is getting injured then he has no content to put out
What're you trying to say? That's the point of the channel genius
@@dookiepringles9674 thats what he’s trying to say…genius
Yeah alright man lol
I think that he is just doing his job describing a part of life that is injuries and he put in a lot of work on medical school and no one is forcing you to watch like or subscribe.
he doesn’t injure them my guy plus he doesn’t even take more advantage of athletes than any other person in the sports industry
If you watch his knee when he is planting to slow down you can see the thigh kind of slide to the outside and rotate slightly because he is looking back. It’s slight and quickly obscured by the right leg but you can see the impact and the slight movement from it. I’ve had my knees shift and just give out on me before stopping like that. Luckily nothing tore but I could easily see it happening.
dude do you ever get that thing where a knee buckles randomly slightly. its never enough to fall for me but im like what the hell was that
@@frankthetank520 yep. I also was taking some Taekwondo classes and when doing forward rolls I could feel my knee shift to the side as I came out of them. It seemed to do it every time so I stopped taking the classes. Didn’t want to risk something blowing out.
@@wild_lee_coyote next thing to blow will be a load.
@@wild_lee_coyote Could be an IT band issue
It’s scary
4:10 to 6:10 Doc nailed this on why there’s certain athletes that are injured prone
I just wanna say it's crazy how we all take stuff like this for granted. These athletes put their bodies through absolute hell. Training most likely multiple hours each day intensely, then playing a high contact, extremely fast paced and physical sport. They push their bodies to the absolute limit and it's crazy.
Also, I'm not qualified whatsoever but I could only assume that having injuries in the hamstring, quads, achilles, etc could only make knee injuries, and other lower body injuries, even more likely
A lot of wide receivers are taught to do out toeing and pronate when doing footwork and cutting which is why I feel like acl injuries have been occurring way more frequently these days
I enjoy the brevity of the coverage here, and the recognition of the assumptions that could be made when analyzing a single piece of tape like this
Love your channel Dr. Sutterer thanks for the great content. This is a crazy injury hope for his speedy and safe recovery
Great video as always! Only thing I would have liked to see you cover more is how the past Achilles tear could have played a role in causing this tear.
Consider this. Catching the right toe part way through the stride would cause a sudden stiffening of the left leg quads to catch his balance. The left knee was flexed and relaxing. The quick reversal would jerk the ligaments. Seems to me.
What is most likely is that his quads and hammies were *NOT* flexed meaning he was slowing down completely skeletally. This transfers the burden of stopping on the passive components of the knee.
not possible to be jogging without using them
you can't run or move without those muscle firing 😂. just putting his leg down and going limp he is still using some type fo muscle group to put his leg down.
@@onmywayup94 He means considerable less as opposed to completely
Yeah this makes sense to me. I play flag football and can really feel the difference between actively slowing down in a controlled way, and when I’m tired and kinda just flopping my feet down. I do have a feeling the turf made a difference here like if he flopped his left foot down but it got caught a little early and then all the force of his weight went into his acl at a funky angle
This seems valid. There is a reason why you slowly decrease your speed when sprinting or running as opposed to just suddenly stopping
Is it possible that while he was running a partial tear happened that he didn't notice, but this moment where he's slowing down was the perfect moment his knee to completely tear?
Seems like he was in pretty substantial pain.
Any explanation as to why sometimes ACL tears seem extremely painful and why they sometimes just look like they cause more of a discomfort?
Quality question. I’m also curious now
I believe the majority of pain comes from tearing your meniscus at the same time as the ACL. If the meniscus is not damaged there would be minimal pain.
@@MrSemperfit there are no nerve endings in the acl, you are correct. I just got done with my 2nd acl surgery.
I tore my ACL playing ball and it was the worst pain I've ever felt in my life
@@Ice717 I've torn it once in each knee and I'll have 3 meniscus repairs when it's all said and done. Tearing the acl hurts like a mofo. It's right on the edge of where you want to pass out, especially if it's hot outside when you do it.
I tore my ACL years ago playing street hockey in a non-contact play. I was running and slowing down as i was reaching the corner and as I was slowing down I felt my knee give out and when I tried to stand up it gave right out again.
i believe sterling shepard didnt get enough time to heal his previous injury so maybe thats why his knee kind of exploded but it looked kind of similar to danilo gallinari's where he just planted awkwardly
This happened a few years back to a chargers player in training camp. Just warm-ups and he tore it running. Can't remember his name, not even sure if he made the team or is in the league anymore
The 🐐 of medical breakdowns!
love your videos. thanks for explaining all these in clear cut, but accurate ways 💪🏼
It’s funny, I’ve only seen like one or two videos from this channel but when I saw this happen in the game, this was the first channel I thought of.
Sometimes I’ll just feel random pops or clicks in parts of my body for seemingly no particular reason and I fear one of these days it’ll be some serious injury like an ACL. Hasn’t happened yet but the human body can be so weird sometimes.
The knee really is a design disaster
I had 1/4 of my meniscus removed in my knee and a ganglion cyst as well that was tucked deep in my knee. That same knee also has a deficient acl. My drawer test is pretty sloppy 😂
@@WhaddupImJohn Yeah my knee is wrecked as well.
Three meniscus surgeries and a complete ACL tear all in the same knee.
Chiropractor calls pops & cracks “bone farts” you’ll be okay
@@ballislife9924 For bipedalism? No. It's one of the best.
Doesn't it seem like non-contact leg injuries (ACL/MCL, ankle, etc) are occurring more often? I don't remember this happening to guys in the NFL prior to 2012. Guys now are just running down the field and their knees pop. I still think the let up on practices during the week lays the foundation for this happening.
Turf is the reason. It’s only recently that every field, even most high schools get it now
@@broncosbreaks They played on absolutely garbage Astro turf in the 70s and 80s. I don't remember this happening at any level. Not sure if you remember Veterans stadium in Philly. The plywood would become exposed during games. Even Giants stadium turf was like concrete. Pittsburgh was no better. But I never saw Rice, Monk or Lynn Swan blow out a knee on a pattern.
Maybe it's the way they train now, not sure. Something is up. Way too often.
Some docs were saying that acl tears and leg injurys are becoming more common on turf fields
Ur a legend for these vids
You’re a legend for watching!
I think it was how hard he was heel planting. If you look at his foot he was planting completely with his heel which causes instability, and combined with instability of turn it looks like his fibula just slid forward
Doc, You're just awesome. The way you explain it is so simple. I love it.
I tore my ACL skiing, and this mechanism of injury is similar to ski racers jumping off "pro bumps". There's video evidence of skiers landing the jumps, and the force will shear the ACL. The lower leg stops, and the femur continues forward.
Been waiting for this video as soon as it happened because it was so random!
As usual Brian, great job!
With all the camera angles they show replays from, I'm shocked a front view of his run hasn't been released
@Brian Sutterer MD would you consider making a video about common sports issues such as shin splints, cramps, etc.? I play lacrosse and have issues with those and would love to see a video about common sports “injuries”.
I’ve gotten shin splints before and they suck , my issue was walking on really steep slopes .
On turf it's like running on cement
no it’s not, I was on the turf at Veterens Stadium and it was spongy
I know this would be from a number of years ago, and you may have already covered it, but I would be interested to hear your thoughts on Georges St-Pierre's (GSP's) ACL tear.
Thank you for the content after all the time you spent looking for homes, I appreciate the videos.
3:03, if you watch closely his knee slightly moves inwards towards his other leg. Would that be before or after the ACL is torn? Could that have been the precursor to the tear, or the immediate aftermath?
It’s closer to 3:00. Before he pauses the slow motion video.
I don’t hear a lot of tendon injuries in Rugby, could it be the turf? Why don’t they go back to grass?
I think it is mainly the style of play. Rugby is a lot rougher by nature, but most tendon injuries in football seem to happen in non-contact incidents. I don't really think the turf is too blame as there are some grass fields that are infamous for causing injuries, FedEx field is a good example. Has singlehandedly claimed multiple careers and numerous ACLs.
This can happen to literally any player. It's a scary realization.
Hey Doc, thanks for keeping up with us. Your the best!
Came across ur content over Tua and o can’t stop watching even the non Tua content
As someone who has torn their right ACL twice I really feel for him. Mine didnt even hurt that bad which I don’t really understand.
THANK YOU for making this
Odd injury, I have lingering pain in my Achilles when slowing down after badly spraining my ankle a few years ago. Feels like a backwards mechanic, but I guess the body does what it wants
I sprained my ankle plenty of times and ended up tearing my Achilles, don't ignore the ankle and look up ways to strengthen the ankle. I would suggest resistance bands and a bosu ball
Recovering from a torn Achilles here. You should work on strengthening your tib muscle. Lmk if you need any exercises I’ve felt so much more stability ever since working on it
@@ernie1410 yo i got some stuff going on with my achilles right now. I was dealing with some soreness upon which i went to pt for and i felt more mobility coming from my feet. but when i tried to play soccer last week, i felt my foot give out on me while i was running. idk if it was my achilles or my soleus. but any exercises will be good cuz im not trying to hurt myself
@@christopherquaye1633 seated calf raises are good to hit the soleus, you’ll know if you tear your Achilles, hope you heal up quick man!
My son just tore his ACL in a non contact play during practice (he's a sophomore in high school) we thought there maybe some genetic thing going on because he was having pain towards the rear making us think the PCL was damaged and I tore my PCL and MCL my junior year in high school, but my injury was contact (think Thiesman or Chubb) gruesome. Luckily he didn't damage any other ligament or his meniscus or patella so he should have a full recovery
Hope your son has a full recovery and can shake this off to get back on the field after getting healed up.
I broke the bone right below my knee cap my junior year and man, it took me a while just to even walk again. It was painful.
@@CaliBoi226 yeah that sounds like an ordeal. I hope you fully recovered
@@stephond.photography9867 I’m 31 now and it aches when it’s cold but other than that, I’m good man. Best of luck to your son and stay blessed 🙏🏼
2019 Indoor soccer, turf pitch. Blew out knee, exact same thing except I was running a little faster on a break away.
I used to play on turf all the time, luckily never got a knee injury but my ankles took a pounding, still messed up today.
Do you know anything about the BEAR implant for ACL repair? Looks fairly new with promising outcomes.
I think in this situation was that his ACL was probably already weakened from previous games or during this game where the ACL was compromised by one of the plays….and then finally tears from just walking.
I especially hate seeing him get hurt again and again as a Giants fan, non-contact injuries are the worst.
This injury makes me not take my body for granted. Injuries can happen at any fucking time. It’s crazy
I had the same injury mechanism in 7th grade but ended up with a tibial plateau fracture instead of an ACL tear. I was told if I did it a few years later after I stopped growing it would’ve been the ACL rather than a fracture
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He was turning his foot left, from the knee down, as he was looking back. He was running straight, his foot was about 30° turned out, putting the stopping force on his knee.
I'm curious how old Brian is lol he looks about 25 yet seems like he's been doing this for 20 years 😂
I am so glad that I don’t get hurt easily even though I am short 5”8. My body sure can take huge hits. I’ve never been injured before. I guess been a short man is not bad after all.
my aunt had torn her acl while just standing in one place, she had also messed up her meniscus at the same time. very very strange.
yeah first thing I was thinking was that there's gotta be more to the story, like a prior injury or something. even this mechanism looks weird AF like It could've been a patellar tendon. this feels like one of these knee injury urban legends we'll be referring back to in years to come
Just watching the few steps of him running at the start of the video and it looked like his feet always contacted the ground either mostly flat or at least after his toes already started rotating down towards the ground, but on the step where he got injured his foot landed just a split second earlier and all of his weight came down on the point of his heel while his toes were pointed more upwards and his heel acted almost like a fulcrum snapping the front of his foot down. I have no idea whether this contributed to the injury, was caused by the injury, or is completely unrelated to the injury but that last step just looked completely mechanically different than the previous steps with either foot.
Can you speak on what seemingly seems to be an increase in acl injuries at Metlife tgen? 2020 both Nick Bosa and Solomon Thomas had ACLs tears at Metlife in the same game. I understand the NFL is teaching lower tackling standards which increases ACL/Knee injuries. It just seems like something is up with using turf fields and injuries.
Hope he ok and wish him a speedy recovery ♥️♥️ 🙏
Dr, is it possible that he hurt his ACL before, like in practice and that he partially tore it and in this play he completed the injury????
I think he would have noticed a partial tear. His knee would have felt “off” or “weak”. And weight bearing/trying to do cuts would have made it feel unstable.
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I've always wondered if he would have just took the play off or rested the last minute of the game, would he have still tore his ACL eventually?
Was his ACL on its last moments or did this "exact" activity cause its failure?
I always wondered the same for me. I have weightlifted forever and did strongman for years with no injuries at all. I played semi-pro for several years and always played the whole game. I always played both ways. This one game we only had 16 total players. I never came off the field. I had just picked off a screen, went on offense, ran an out route, QB threw me an off pass, I adjusted and it tore. Less than 5 minutes left in the game. I was 32 in 2015.
I always wondered if I would’ve had some rest, if it would’ve prevented the strain, or if it was just that specific effort.
Damn what a great video homie Fr 💯
High school coaches be like “ Wouldn’t have happen if he wasn’t going full speed. “ 😂😂😂
I gotta think if this happened while he was just basically jogging that this was a ticking time bomb. It’s probably more related to his previous injuries but if a ligament can break that easily without a lot pressure being forced on it I have to think it was an injury just waiting to happen. For some reason that ACL just wasn’t stable and it was only a matter of time before it gave out.
As a soccer player in a former life, I've been literal feet away from a couple of people this has happened to. A loud "SNAP" on the last step of deceleration. Both times were playing indoor soccer on turf. Soccer players have notoriously weak hamstrings, so maybe less of a surprise.
Why do soccer players have weak hamstrings?
@@dictatorofcanada4238 The nature of the sport i.e. kicking strengthens the quads. Now, it may be better now than it was with modern training methods. Heck in the olden days, 25 years ago, soccer players didnt lift weights.
Can you do a video on the AFL aka the Australian football league injuries?
I think it got injured a play or two before. Someone landed on his legs awkwardly and I believe the slow down run was the final blow but i defer to you sir!
Love this guy we graduated same year in Oklahoma
Probably something was wrong already but he decided to play through it. His mind is stronger then his body
Damn that Tua injury looked bad.. waiting for your video on this doc 🙏🏾
Seems like the turf is a problem. Apparently the women's national soccery team filed a lawsuit to get rid of having to play on turf.
I've know people to get knee ligament tears doing the most innocuous things - step down a stair, putting on sock, getting out of a car. You twist just a little weirdly and it can sometimes just randomly pop.
That’s encouraging 😐
putting on a sock?
@@tchevrier most people knee's are bent when they put a sock on
@@TheodoreBrosevelt Really? Thanks for those words of wisdom. facepalm.
haha i’ve lost my balance putting on a sock but an acl tear 😮😮😮🤣
Big ouch. He also seems to have all but stopped vertical motion of running while slowing down, and planted foot while relaxing those muscles, while still having a lot of forward momentum to decelerate.
Being quad dominant with under use / weak hamstring can knee inStability leads to strain / tear to ACL. I feel that why most athlete are heavy focus on quad and not enough on hamstring training lead to non acl tears. If hamstrings are under active the quads will Compensate. He has a history of hamstring that being said his Eccentric contraction is shot and the quad compensating inwhich that it’s not proper function maybe lead to acl torn
Yeah most athletes just focus on their quads and not enough on their hamstrings. Isolation strength exercises for the hamstrings are super important.
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is the met life turf an injury problem for players????
Shep said he thinks he injured that knee the play before. He said he felt something but played through it.
I saw something that Odell commented on this that it was the turf that played a role and that if it were grass it would not have happened
Does it possibly have anything to do with him landing on the back of his left foot on the step instead of the toes?
Like his knee was expecting to make contact at a different point of the step so it compensated?
He lands awkwardly toe down on that step (rather than heel or midfoot). That would definitely put a lot of anterior loading on the knee and make it more prone to twisting.
Bro is the best for these videos
D'Anthony Thomas & Devon Allen each blew knees in the LA Collosium- natural grass.
I think you nailed it at the end, he must of had previously damaged it and it was a ticking Timebomb
Dion Lewis had a NCI during a Pats game
You can see his left foot get stuck in the turf clear as day.
I put him in my Fantasy lineup. That's how he tore his ACL running in a straight line. No science can explain this, it's simply an ancient curse at work here.
He landed on his outer heel area, which landed close to the center plane of the body as his body was tilted looking at the int? When his leg went down, the tortion in his upper hip was spent, so it had to twist elsewhere. Knee or ankle. Since his ankle was secure by the cleats in the grass, his knee had a rotation force on them. Just a guess.
Seems so ODD, that this caused a ACL rupture. He must of had a non symptomatic partial tear and this was the straw that broke the camels back. This guy HAS to be super strong, hard to imagine the injury was a muscle weakness issue.
Took hit few plays earlier
And he is injury prone
When I saw this play happen live I immediately said "oh. He inside heel hooked himself." Toes point outward slightly. Heel pointed INSIDE (hence inside heel hook) Knee comes in. All bodyweight transferred to the ACL and MCL. Same mechanism of injury the inside heel hook is designed to produce.
To me this injury is neither strange or confusing. I've had it done to me and done it to other people.
Doc, you should do a few videos on certain MMA techniques and how some moves are designed to produce certain mechanisms for injury in a specific way. Like heel hooks, oblique kicks. I'm pretty sure you've done the liver kick already.
The things you're aiming for in combat sports tend to be the same mechanism we tend to see happen in other sports accidentally.
It looks to me like that single stride was a couple inches longer, almost hyper extending his knee just a small amount before he put his weight on it.
As someone who tore their ACL (and both meniscus at the same time in one knee 😅) this video gave me ptsd, I legit had flashbacks lmao, my knee started feeling all kinds of weird
Can you make a video explaining canelos wrist injury?
Man, this makes my leg hurt just watching this.
Jordy Nelson's ACL tear is a strange one too.