Yeah, turned out about as expected. Phoenix Guard might have been able to break the Halberds if they didn't forget how to fight below 25% HP for some reason... but they'd probably still have lost overall. As for the funny line formation after beating the Flagellants? I've had it happen before. It's horribly annoying, especially with skirmish units, who decide to make a long line BEFORE listening to the order to run away from the incoming melee infantry (or whatnot). It's eminently frustrating. It also made doubly sure the Crossbows could route them here. I was a little surprised they got through all the Flagellants, though. I too would be especially pleased to learn why that keeps happening. And Greatswords? They're technically already a cost effective counter. They'd probably not win 1v1, maybe because of Martial Mastery running out they could, but they are definitely a cost effective counter to elite halberd infantry of all types.
As expected, Spearmen and Swordsmen haven't enough staying power, with Halbs, GS or Flagellants they stay longer or do more damge allowing the Xbowmen to kill the Elfs
Well, seems the spearmen didn’t last as long as I hoped and I underestimated the effect of the armour. I’d figure two defensive units would fight far longer. Ah I see I didn’t account for the martial mastery. That gave a huge buff that pushed them ahead
If you play back the video around 17:14 you give an order for a long side facing formation by mistake. (The arrows indicating the facing of the unit pointing sideways) After that you just righrt click on the archers givig them a simple attack order never realigning the long formation. The elves only try to keep the long formation you gave them a second before when attacking. Baseicly you accidentally dagged a new formation instead of right click before atracking the ranged unit. I dont really think it would have been any differet result if you dont misclick. Maybe a few more dead archers.
Thanks for the comment. Agreed on that. It kind of just happened and I don't really know why - I thought that they would perform the charge properly after that but well... And agreed, if not done, they could have gotten perhaps a couple of extra kills :)
Hello! I don’t know if anyone has suggested these ideas to you before, but how do you feel about such battles: Skarbrand, Imrik (dragon), and if you want Kholek against Tamurkhan (Bubebolos), Kholek against Belakor, Grombrindal against Ungrim. Any good ideas? :).
@@yourlocalfurrylandsknechtowo Yeah, if your charge is so low you still might want that charge reflection from being braced (which doesn't only work against large, that's separate from charge defence vs large)..
Halberdiers Supremacy
Indeed :) Thanks for the comment.
This reflects how powerful the projectile is even without AP.
Agreed on that :) It is nice that in a game combined arms performs well. Thanks for the comment.
Yeah, turned out about as expected. Phoenix Guard might have been able to break the Halberds if they didn't forget how to fight below 25% HP for some reason... but they'd probably still have lost overall.
As for the funny line formation after beating the Flagellants? I've had it happen before. It's horribly annoying, especially with skirmish units, who decide to make a long line BEFORE listening to the order to run away from the incoming melee infantry (or whatnot). It's eminently frustrating. It also made doubly sure the Crossbows could route them here. I was a little surprised they got through all the Flagellants, though. I too would be especially pleased to learn why that keeps happening.
And Greatswords? They're technically already a cost effective counter. They'd probably not win 1v1, maybe because of Martial Mastery running out they could, but they are definitely a cost effective counter to elite halberd infantry of all types.
Thanks for the comment. Yea, that "formation" was annoying though I think the X-bows would have won in any case that one :)
@@QualityGames-ql1jc I agree. It didn't help, but they'd have lost in the end regardless.
As expected, Spearmen and Swordsmen haven't enough staying power, with Halbs, GS or Flagellants they stay longer or do more damge allowing the Xbowmen to kill the Elfs
Agreed on that :) Thanks for the comment.
Well, seems the spearmen didn’t last as long as I hoped and I underestimated the effect of the armour. I’d figure two defensive units would fight far longer. Ah I see I didn’t account for the martial mastery. That gave a huge buff that pushed them ahead
Phoenix guard have 30% physical resist as well which further mitigates the damage they take.
Thanks for the comment. Agreed, rather impressive from the Phoenix Guard :)
If you play back the video around 17:14 you give an order for a long side facing formation by mistake.
(The arrows indicating the facing of the unit pointing sideways)
After that you just righrt click on the archers givig them a simple attack order never realigning the long formation.
The elves only try to keep the long formation you gave them a second before when attacking.
Baseicly you accidentally dagged a new formation instead of right click before atracking the ranged unit.
I dont really think it would have been any differet result if you dont misclick. Maybe a few more dead archers.
Thanks for the comment. Agreed on that. It kind of just happened and I don't really know why - I thought that they would perform the charge properly after that but well... And agreed, if not done, they could have gotten perhaps a couple of extra kills :)
Kinda surprised the greatswords didn't do better than they did compared to the halberdiers.
Thanks for the comment. Imo the Crossbows seem to be the main damage dealers in these tests and the infantry's main task is to hold the line :)
Hello! I don’t know if anyone has suggested these ideas to you before, but how do you feel about such battles: Skarbrand, Imrik (dragon), and if you want Kholek against Tamurkhan (Bubebolos), Kholek against Belakor, Grombrindal against Ungrim. Any good ideas? :).
Thanks for the suggestions. I will add those to To-Do list :)
Pls test The Loe'c Tricksters 😅@@QualityGames-ql1jc
Hammers vs empire next please!!!
Thanks for the suggestion. I will add that to TO-Do list :)
@@QualityGames-ql1jc thank you!!!
It's kind of sad how much damage they take for being so elite
True :) Thanks for the comment.
Why no charge from empire? It's minimal, but still
Thanks for the comment. Yea, that would have been beneficial for the Spears and Halbs. Imo Sowrds, Flagellants and Greatswords charged :)
I feel like those are the times when you *don't* want to counter charge and remove your charge reflection
@@yourlocalfurrylandsknechtowo Yeah, if your charge is so low you still might want that charge reflection from being braced (which doesn't only work against large, that's separate from charge defence vs large)..
Elves bleed just like the rest of us!
Seems to be the case :) Thanks for the comment.
100 armor
Yea, that is quite impressive :) Thanks for the comment.