Dealing with pollen in the supers!! 🙌🐝
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2024
- How I basically manage my Honey supers throughout the year using nature over the winter to clean out excess pollen if they can and if they don’t I then scrape it off then pressure wash the frames and get them rebuilt.
Great video, thanks! Looking forward to trying your “no pollen in the super” technique. Been looking for a solution to stop pollen from getting in my cut-comb. Thanks for sharing.
Always learning something new with you thank you for the great teaching. Upper Michigan bee keeper
great,i try to get them drawn then space for 9 in a 10 frame,
Sir do, 👏 You are in the honey business and will have to make the adjustment that works best for you and the bees.
When I had honey crystallizing in the frame and switched to 9" frames that problem was solved.
At the end of it all production is the name of the game, do keep well and stay safe God bless 👋.
That's great info to have. On another note, I grafted queens for the first time this week, Combining methods from you Kamon and Ian to (hopefully) get enough cells to get 15 mated queens. So I wanted to thank you for your cell builder videos :)
Thanks Lagrange bees!! I hope you get some great cells.!! Looking forward to see them!!
@@richardnoel3141 I just came back home from the apiary.... Only 2 grafts rook. They do look amazing though hehe. I will have to go to plan B to make more splits. 🤔
@@lagrangebees next time !! Better than morning!! Sometimes less is more!!
Hi Richard, I have langstroth hives and find putting nine frames in my supers instead of the ten to fill the boxes the bees build out way more and fatter honey in the frames always a bigger crop and yes your definitely right comb instead of foundation is also a bonus.
Hi Mark yes the problem is a lot of people who only have two or three Hives are more than happy to have what they get and I agree with that but when you start getting more down the road of trying to get a little bit more from your colonies when you into the 15/20 Hives and More, it really is important and it’s it makes a massive difference to Honey production I’m sure of it. Best of luck for the summer season
Great information. Thanks for the video.
Great tips in this one. Thank you!
Thanks Dawn , like all the others who perhaps see more hives each week we don’t always remember to pass on the stuff we take for granted! Thanks for your kind words!!
I find with wooden super frames, melt down and start fresh as the bees will ignore them making a mess
Hi Richard. If you are running bottom be space, what gap would you recommend on the supers?
Mine seem to be around 12mm and seem to get Comb in between them which makes a mess!
Thanks
Great tips again Richard . Can i as who makes those frames ? Is it apis 'something' ? Cheers .
Thank you, ok their the French plastic frames made by Nicot, or Nicoplast. Their called “Baticadre” DADANT half size
It looks like the wheel manufacturer cheaped out on those wheels. Hopefully the dolly manufacturer will give you better replacement wheels.
10 to build and then 9’s for honey!! Awesome and easier
You can build wax foundation on 9’s if you wish then go to 8’s if you wish, or just stay on 9’s. Many just use 9’s
If you have fewer frames in the supers than in the brood box, does this not make it harder for the bees to dry off the honey ?
I'm thinking of how they push air currents around the hive...
The front wheel looks like the bolt is bent, be careful it dosent snapp if the wheel gets stuck on something.
Can you explain how you get more honey only having 8 frames or 9 frame vs 10 frames? I get when you are running through an uncapping machine it makes less work with 9 frames. Thx!
Hi David, you don’t necessarily have more honey, that’s down to other things, ( like weather and flowers) however the bees have more wax cells to fill less frames in the way so you have the maximum frames they we can easily remove afterwards, (without cross combs etc.)The skill is getting it pre built so when the flow starts the bees can fill it quickly and build huge combs that hold more honey and have two less frames in. I find and so do other beekeepers that you get less crystallisation, the less frames you have per box. Building new foundation or building on new frames is very costly in terms of honey, but much mess so once your combs are build out on 8, 9, or 10 configuration.
@@richardnoel3141 Thank you for the excellent explanation Mr. Noel! I know my Dad usually ran 9 frames in honey supers in his commercial operation. As a kid I never gave it much thought, lol. As a hobby keep I do everything pretty manual and I've never had issues with crystallization here in Colorado.
Hi Richard, love the videos, any recommendations for getting pollen out if you are from wax foundation without destroying it? Are the spacers worth the cost and all the effort? As apposed to just doing it with your eye when changing from 10s to 8s or 9s
Hi Craxy Kiwi, you can actually buy a hand spacer ( I think Kamen Reynolds featured in his last video about went to add a super) that you put on top of the frames and give you the exact distance needed if you have rails rather than cancellations. So there is different methods but a lot of people just go for nines and it’s the middle range so I only show the question and try and explain because it’s the way of absolutely maximising everything but you just have to know how to do it and how to work at it if you have all your frames space with nine per box that’s absolutely fine there’s no problem and you’ll probably do really well with that. Best of luck
y hand spacing is possible, in fact L. Langstroth did it that way, but it is time consuming, uneven and spacing easly disturbed by movement
Hiya what do you recommend when your frames aren’t plastic, scrape carefully lol or just change foundation. Learn something every vid you make. Thanks
Hi Emma you have a few options to carefully scrape them out and often they will rebuild if you remove just the pollen. This is what I’m trying to explain is it’s about getting the balance between foundation and plastic foundation with our supers we don’t need to spend the money on renewing the foundation it’s a little bit quicker and a little bit less time consuming if you’re doing it on a big scale to hard plastic foundation we think other people like to use wood and foundation made by the Bees that’s a choice but I personally think that after a while the foundation drawn by the bees on wooden frames does get a bit misshapen after a while. There is very little advantage in the 2 to be honest for us also the plastic frames are much lighter and much more durable. I would certainly say that you can scrape out a lot of pollen from your wax foundation if you’re very careful because for us we can’t get any lower to remove that residual propolis and dry pollen because the plastic is premolded ( that’s why we pressure wash it)where is with foundation you can actually get lower to the bottom of the cell, so there is some advantages and some disadvantages
@@richardnoel3141 thanks, maybe if I get more hives and start producing honey I will follow your example and use them in the supers, thanks
@@richardnoel3141 thanks
What do you do with frames with crystallized honey in them?
We scrape them out or put them back on the hives in the dearth period to feed the bees before the summer nectar flow starts.
Some years we get a bit, some years not so much like this year. Luckily. However supers put back on the hives rarely have any spring honey in them the following spring!
Great job.
Have any job offer?
Who sells the metal strip to convert 10 frame boxes to 8 frame? that's brilliant.
You can buy them online in many French shops or shops that have DADANT, in France they are called “Cremalier” in uk they are called casselelations
@@richardnoel3141 i found it under "castellations" probably because they look like castle parapets
Does a full super with 8 frames weigh more than a full super with 10 frames?
Are you selling honey wholesale in the 55 gal drums? No retail in jars? Is it worth the wholesale price? Looking at 300 hives next year in Asheville NC and not sure which way to go.
Hi, no it goes in to jars later on over the autumn winter.always sell in jars if you can. it makes more money and is more of a fair reward for a good product
Just an observation you change the spacers from 10 to 8, isn’t that very time consuming and wouldn’t using a spacer ( metal thing with 8 spaces lol) be more time efficient. New bees so feel free to close me down x
Possibly but we only used casselstions here on our hives. It’s how DADANT works.
@@richardnoel3141 I will have to do more research on dadant, thanks
Would a solar wax melter work great for that?
هل النحل يحب الإطار البلاستيكي
هل يقوم ببنائه بسرعة
نعم ، سوف يبنون على البلاستيك بسهولة شديدة ويستخدم العديد من الأشخاص في سجون الولايات المتحدة ودول أخرى الكثير من الأساس البلاستيكي. بالنسبة لنا هنا ، الإطارات جيدة حقًا لأنها معدة مسبقًا ويستمر النحل في عمل الخلايا حتى يسهل على النحل إنهاءها وبناء مشط شمعي. لكن عليك أن تتذكر أن بناء أي نوع من الأمشاط التي هي عبارة عن شمع يستهلك الكثير من العسل ، ولهذا السبب نحاول إعادة استخدام أمشاطنا كل عام ونجدد بعضها كل عام حتى نحصل على توازن وهذا هو كل ما يدور حوله الفيديو. نوع من بذل جهد للحفاظ على الأفضل وتجديد القديم. شكرا لتعليقاتكم متمنيا لكم كل التوفيق.
@@richardnoel3141 وايضا أثناء الفرز لا يتحطم الإطار
شكرا لك من القلب
400 kilos? Not a chance. Darn.
More pounds per box
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