This documentary is about fishing and processing fish on board a freezing trawler in Iceland. Catching cod, haddock, red fish and polllock. Shown is the complete production process of frozen fish and fish meal production. Producer: Birgir Runar Saemundsson
+Birgir Runar Saemundsson the processing & packaging is similar to grape harvesting & packaging here in California. We stand long hours in the hot summer sorting & packaging grapes to make a 23 lbs box of the best grapes around & then load them neatly by hand on to a huge flat bed truck (with pallets) then deliver then deliver them to a huge cold storage & unload them with a forklift & ready for the open market. I like your video.
+Birgir Runar Saemundsson also during the grape harvesting season grapes never go to waste, the bad grapes that we sort out are stored in a container & then sold to local wineries or concentrate juice plants.
+Birgir Runar Saemundsson I'm heading to Alaska for the first time in January of next year, but won't be out at sea like those guys. I would like to work on a fishing boat just like the guys in the video, it's interesting to see this process but even better getting hands on experience doing this.
Very cool seeing how these ships are basically a factory in and of themselves. Regardless of the environmental impact it's very cool to see how these ships operate.
Amazing yet rather obscene. This video has charged my desire to enjoy the banks of the waters with rod, reel, pocket knife, campfire. Enjoyable hand selection.
Обожаю не только есть рыбу,но и смотреть как её ловят. Это не рыбалка на речке с удочкой,а великий труд. Интересно,ведь на сеть попадается разная рыба. Вот посмотреть бы поближе. УДОВОЛЬСТВИЕ НЕОПИСУЕМОЕ!
Well done I worked on tuna fishing Vessels in Australia hard work good money not quiet as big as this vessel. Once you have been to sea for a period of time it becomes a part of you.. I love the sea don't fish now but I love everything to do with fishing whatever type wherever.. Love boats live on the PC looking and reading Love it.. All good have a hoot.. Cheers
On one end i appreciate the men&women working so hard to bring food to the masses. we take for granted the fact all we have to do is go to the local supermarket and easily purchase a meal. My only misgiving is the amount of food taken from the oceans at this industrial level. its beyond extensive. we look at a very big ocean but forget its not teaming with fish. no more than people being on every location of land. man congregates in key locations, so do fish. which is why we can easily wipe out many species. By no means are the oceans fish breading at a pace faster than what we are extracting.
this was very interesting I never imagined there was a large scale operation such as this . What type of uses are fish meal I assume its the leftover scrap ground up. Really like the video thanks larry
+Larry Carroll i bet you eat fish and chips. Where do you think the fisk comes from? you think 8 million peoples staning on the docks in new york, fishing to make fish and chips.? PS. The potatos used for chips comes from dirt in the ground, dont tell anyone ....
Sure looks different than on a supermarket tray, puts a perspective on where your food comes from. Btw I thought wild cod was pretty much extinct. Also love the hair nets, but nothing on the 6"+ beards... Makes me re-think the next time why the fish I am buying is cheap.....(all the safety health regulations out the window) but than again just because you pay more for your fish does not guarantee you a better product. Oh guess it's time to go fishing so I can tell wth I am actually eating. Good video, thank you for sharing without hiding how we support the huge demand.
Damn I thought some guy started yelling in excitement at 0:17. Then thought damn he can yell for a really long time. Then realize it was the winch lol.
At what point in the fish meal processing is Ethoxyquin added ? Unmodified fish meal can spontaneously combust. In the past, ships have sunk because of such fires. Now, the danger is eliminated by adding antioxidants, namely, ethoxyquin. There has been some speculation that ethoxyquin in pet foods might be responsible for multiple health problems. Ethoxyquin is a quinoline-based antioxidant used as a food preservative (E324) and a pesticide (under commercial names such as "Stop-Scald") to control scald on pears after harvest.It is commonly used as a preservative in pet foods to prevent the rancidification of fats. Ethoxyquin is also commonly used in spices to prevent color loss due to oxidation of the natural carotenoid pigments.
I am curious if the fish stocks off Iceland are sustainable when fished using this kind of production?.....Very efficient, but I question whether this is sustainable.....Hopefully Iceland monitors its fish stocks better than we do here in Canada.....
FMHammyJ I agree. Globalization has already killed off (or made extinct) many species due to trawling such as this in many parts of our oceans. I used to not be concerned much about where my fish comes from but am now not inclined to eat it as "we've left our footprint" which will affect my grandchildren and their children.
+Falco Lombardi Big......but finite.....we caused the collapse of the cod fishery here in Canada by overfishing......Catches of most species round the globe are decreasing.......not great news for an overpopulated planet that needs protein.....
I believe that Justices system should put non violet prisoner on this kind of job , they can provide meal for the whole correction department and cheap labor to make fish more affordable to the poorest person on this planet....
As a mechanical Engineer I can appreciate the efficient machine that is such a Trawler. As a human being i am terrified what we as a race are doing to other living, feeling beings ;(
jetpowered1 90% of this sort of fish, is ground up and made into pellets to feed livestock, due to this sort of fishing , by 2040 there will be no more fish on the northern hemisphere. suicidal business.
Filets cut and cleaned...see the light? The guy is there to remove worms from the fillet. Cod Pollack and haddock can be wormy. The dude is actually cutting a worm out.
It is sad to think that people, do not understand how much bounty the ocean has,And how many people that that ocean feeds, and will still throw their trash in our waters, and still go to McDonald’s and get a hamburger or fish sandwich and eat it ,really where did they think it comes from
At least in norway most bigger fishing ships have 2 crews rotating so that 1 crew work and the other crew have (holyday) they usually swap the crews while the ship is in dock unloading if they have quotas big enough to fish the whole year. Pay: usually the pay is a fixd minimum pay + a part of the value of the catch usually making big ship fishermen quite rich, compared to say teachers, nurses ore most people working 9 to 5 on land.
Have never worked on a fish freezer boat but have on a shrimp one and a lot of just ice boats. Have fished for just about everything here on the east coast of the USA all the way down to C.A. and S.A.. It just drives me crazy when people see how there food is harvested and don't like it but still eat it!!!!! So how much percent of it is by catch??
Looking at the volume of this ship's hold I don't think there can be any argument we are not over fishing our oceans. 10 or 20 of these vessels would leave an ocean's area lifeless of a species for a long time to come. Unless we limit the world's population growth we should anticipate massive depletion of ocean food sources in the not too distant future.
Thanks for sharing. Very good study material for my toddler. This is exactly what's showing on his picture book. We don't understand the last part: the fish meal. Is it made from the rest parts of the fishes? What can the fish meal used for?
Most fishmeal at least in norway go to fish feed for say salmon and trout.... it also used to be used in chicken and cow feed. but EU desided to ban fishmeal to be given to animals in case carcasses and bones from animals got mixd in, with risk of spreading sickness, say bird flu, mad cow disease, and so on.. but most fismeal at least in norway is used as fish feed.. it used to be around 90% fishmeal in salmon pellets,, but now around 25% fishmeal and most of the rest is say soybeans and corn.
they stay a month sometimes more in the sea collecting the fish u couldnt eat them fresh no where out to be alive dear this for small or more artisanal fishing
if people think they should stop, you are wrong, God allowed humans to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the sky and above all lifestock, kill fish for food not for fun said God
Why is no one commenting about the bearded guy being in almost all the steps of operation.. wonder if they cloned him.. or hes just does most of the work below deck.. 😂
Yeah right? This whole thing is obviously a put on production. They aint showing you all of the innocent sea creatures who died and will just be thrown overboard. These trawlers are bad - If folks want to eat fish - they need to go fishing. The trawlers is just one more obvious evident proof that the govs and corps are out to kill and destroy the earth, rather than trying to save it. Every decision the civy lies nations govs and corps make , is to the detriment of the earth and everything within . Including lectric cars which is a million times worse than oil power. They are already overloading the earths electro magnetic power circuit now - it cant power the lectronics the world is using now, not and power itself and the natural creations within. Everything alive depends on the earths electro magnetic fields to power us, and the migrating critters use the fields to navigate. When the govs act concerned about fixing the climate, they are lying through their teeth. They are intentionally killing the earth and everything within it. The civy lies nations are part of the devil/ rebellion led by lucifer, after all. They hate everything our father and Yahshua the real christ/ our creators created - especially mankind - AND MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT - WERE IT UP TO THEM NOTHING NATURAL WOULD REMAIN ALIVE IN THE EARTH, NOT EVEN THE EARTH ITSELF COULD WITHSTAND THIS ONSLAUGHT. It is sik and dieing now.
This documentary is about fishing and processing fish on board a freezing trawler in Iceland. Catching cod, haddock, red fish and polllock. Shown is the complete production process of frozen fish and fish meal production.
Producer: Birgir Runar Saemundsson
does the crewman make a decent living of doing this?
Yes the salary for seamen are very good on a ship like this.
+Birgir Runar Saemundsson the processing & packaging is similar to grape harvesting & packaging here in California. We stand long hours in the hot summer sorting & packaging grapes to make a 23 lbs box of the best grapes around & then load them neatly by hand on to a huge flat bed truck (with pallets) then deliver then deliver them to a huge cold storage & unload them with a forklift & ready for the open market. I like your video.
+Birgir Runar Saemundsson also during the grape harvesting season grapes never go to waste, the bad grapes that we sort out are stored in a container & then sold to local wineries or concentrate juice plants.
+Birgir Runar Saemundsson I'm heading to Alaska for the first time in January of next year, but won't be out at sea like those guys. I would like to work on a fishing boat just like the guys in the video, it's interesting to see this process but even better getting hands on experience doing this.
Very cool seeing how these ships are basically a factory in and of themselves. Regardless of the environmental impact it's very cool to see how these ships operate.
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Yeah that is why it's called FACTORY trawler
Amazing yet rather obscene. This video has charged my desire to enjoy the banks of the waters with rod, reel, pocket knife, campfire. Enjoyable hand selection.
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Thank you for this very informative video! Subtitles between machines was helpful!
Обожаю не только есть рыбу,но и смотреть как её ловят. Это не рыбалка на речке с удочкой,а великий труд. Интересно,ведь на сеть попадается разная рыба. Вот посмотреть бы поближе. УДОВОЛЬСТВИЕ НЕОПИСУЕМОЕ!
I'm glad there's guys that do this so I don't have too. Thanks for your hard work!!
absolutely true!
Well done I worked on tuna fishing Vessels in Australia hard work good money not quiet as big as this vessel. Once you have been to sea for a period of time it becomes a part of you.. I love the sea don't fish now but I love everything to do with fishing whatever type wherever.. Love boats live on the PC looking and reading Love it.. All good have a hoot.. Cheers
i want work too there...how much they pay and how can i do that???
Am interested with this kind of investment...
May we consult further...cheers too
This seems like a nice, calm, relaxing job, just a poetic cruise on the sea, really......
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Aside from the environmental impacts of this type of fishing, it is quite a remarkable operation.
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Ufff un trabajo mecánico y matador!!! increíble toda la mecánica del barco!!!
gente récia y admirable!!
These guys don’t need gym membership! Hardest job, my respect to them!
Thank you for putting this together! Looks like true work. Hope these guys make decent $$$...
This ship is up in the high salary category.
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On one end i appreciate the men&women working so hard to bring food to the masses. we take for granted the fact all we have to do is go to the local supermarket and easily purchase a meal. My only misgiving is the amount of food taken from the oceans at this industrial level. its beyond extensive. we look at a very big ocean but forget its not teaming with fish. no more than people being on every location of land. man congregates in key locations, so do fish. which is why we can easily wipe out many species. By no means are the oceans fish breading at a pace faster than what we are extracting.
it must smell lovely in there.
Fresh fish does not smell bad. Rotting fish does. You can bet the entire assembly line is thoroughly clean between each catch.
Ye he's right fresh fish don't have a smell
Omg all in one boat!!!
thats what i was thinking!
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Good grief, that's hard work. I can't see how you could avoid injury doing this. I hope they're very well-paid, because that's brutal.
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Very impressive. Thanks for sharing.
I am praying for all who the fishing to success. I love for fishing.
you are a good guy. 👌
My favorite part was the bald guy with the lovely full beard wearing the hair net at the end (12:39). gotta love bureaucracy.
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this was very interesting I never imagined there was a large scale operation such as this . What type of uses are fish meal I assume its the leftover scrap ground up. Really like the video thanks larry
Larry Carroll are you thanking yourself for watching this?
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+Larry Carroll i bet you eat fish and chips. Where do you think the fisk comes from? you think 8 million peoples staning on the docks in new york, fishing to make fish and chips.? PS. The potatos used for chips comes from dirt in the ground, dont tell anyone ....
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Got to love those short bus helmets
HAUL BACK !!!! one the hardest jobs out there just got back from my first fishing boat
Naknek silver bay seafood. 2017 n 18 n am going BK screw what anyone say we kick ass.
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Fascinating But that stuck Fillet bugs me.
+Slimm Jimm it is still there today while all else passes...
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Good work
90% positive that the bearded guy in all the scenes is Techno-Viking!
Nice video!
Sure looks different than on a supermarket tray, puts a perspective on where your food comes from. Btw I thought wild cod was pretty much extinct.
Also love the hair nets, but nothing on the 6"+ beards...
Makes me re-think the next time why the fish I am buying is cheap.....(all the safety health regulations out the window) but than again just because you pay more for your fish does not guarantee you a better product. Oh guess it's time to go fishing so I can tell wth I am actually eating.
Good video, thank you for sharing without hiding how we support the huge demand.
It's Atlantic cod that's in trouble. Pacific cod is classed as sustainable.
Damn I thought some guy started yelling in excitement at 0:17. Then thought damn he can yell for a really long time. Then realize it was the winch lol.
Me too! Lol.
Fully thought that was a siren at first.
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At what point in the fish meal processing is Ethoxyquin added ? Unmodified fish meal can spontaneously combust. In the past, ships have sunk because of such fires. Now, the danger is eliminated by adding antioxidants, namely, ethoxyquin. There has been some speculation that ethoxyquin in pet foods might be responsible for multiple health problems. Ethoxyquin is a quinoline-based antioxidant used as a food preservative (E324) and a pesticide (under commercial names such as "Stop-Scald") to control scald on pears after harvest.It is commonly used as a preservative in pet foods to prevent the rancidification of fats. Ethoxyquin is also commonly used in spices to prevent color loss due to oxidation of the natural carotenoid pigments.
I think the guy in the freezer has the cooler job
amazing video. I only eat Cod.
Man only if I had the opportunity I would do this full-time!😀
Makes me glad I am a mechanic!
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So, what's for lunch today? FISH AGAIN? It must smell great on that boat.
Joey Jamison we actually have a very good chef (Most of the time) on these sorts of boats. Fish is probably only eaten once a week
I better stay at Mcdonald's
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잘 봤다.
대단하고 경이롭다.
We work 6 hours on and 6 hours off the factory never stops
how can I work with you..
I'm Indonesian
How can I work for you?
I'm American...Worked in Alaska for 10 years when I was younger.
16 Hour shifts.
Yeah thats crazy. American here. 16hr shifts. Point blank.
interesting video, cheers for the share!
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I miss working on these trawlers.
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the whole time during this video, Im trying to think which guys job is the shittiest.
Ryan Poolefor sure the guy cutting the heads off and gutting them with 500,000 more to go.
Ryan Poole it sucks but pay is good
These guys go for holidays in the Bahamas on the tips they get from cods roe. They are the aristocrats of labour.
Not one of them is pissed off! Killing shit being on an adventure and making heaps of coin!! Commercial fishing is epic
My vote is the guy stacking boxes in the freezing hold.
so awesome
Nice more fish
My knees hurt just watching this lol.
So very nice .
What a hard work behind my Bocata :O
This is -WOW! Mixed in with -Holy Sh**!!!!
Hopefully this method of fishing will soon be a thing of the past if we are to sustain the ground fish.
Nicely done! That's a factory floating on water.
very good THANKS
I am curious if the fish stocks off Iceland are sustainable when fished using this kind of production?.....Very efficient, but I question whether this is sustainable.....Hopefully Iceland monitors its fish stocks better than we do here in Canada.....
FMHammyJ I agree. Globalization has already killed off (or made extinct) many species due to trawling such as this in many parts of our oceans. I used to not be concerned much about where my fish comes from but am now not inclined to eat it as "we've left our footprint" which will affect my grandchildren and their children.
+Falco Lombardi Big......but finite.....we caused the collapse of the cod fishery here in Canada by overfishing......Catches of most species round the globe are decreasing.......not great news for an overpopulated planet that needs protein.....
So the poor staker,sould be given a weel barrel/ box carryer,would be mutch faster and easyer for him. love Norway
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I believe that Justices system should put non violet prisoner on this kind of job , they can provide meal for the whole correction department and cheap labor to make fish more affordable to the poorest person on this planet....
As a mechanical Engineer I can appreciate the efficient machine that is such a Trawler.
As a human being i am terrified what we as a race are doing to other living, feeling beings ;(
Not one of those 500,000 fish would hesitate to eat you if they were large enough.
Excelent! thanks for sharing an aspect of how food is treated before reaching our tables!
..very interesting....
Id want a job here so bad!
thanks again for sharing.
That was amazing! Nothing goes to waste obviously.
Is that ship 150-200 meters? How long does an average trip last?
jetpowered1 This ship is about 70 meters long. Trips are 26 to 35 days depending on how good fishing is.
***** name of the vessel?
mali dupin The Nameis " Therney" from Reykjavik.
jetpowered1 90% of this sort of fish, is ground up and made into pellets to feed livestock, due to this sort of fishing , by 2040 there will be no more fish on the northern hemisphere. suicidal business.
jetpowered1 I worked on a processing vessels in the 90's that extracted the fish oil in the fish meal plant. The oil was used to heat the boat.
Filets cut and cleaned...see the light? The guy is there to remove worms from the fillet. Cod Pollack and haddock can be wormy. The dude is actually cutting a worm out.
Impressive operation
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very fantastic
Just look at their cute little faces :3
Food..
They are food.
It is sad to think that people, do not understand how much bounty the ocean has,And how many people that that ocean feeds, and will still throw their trash in our waters, and still go to McDonald’s and get a hamburger or fish sandwich and eat it ,really where did they think it comes from
They do very hard job
olha é impressionante ver um trabalho tão perfeito como esse os caras são top
this is where ours food comes from, go protest your local supermarket if you care that much
What is the process to apply for a job from people from other countries?
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What an investment!
Wow. Don't ever let China take this away from you.
yum, fish. getting hungry.
finally a video w/class :) thx 4upload ...subbing nowthumbs up all that ...totally love this :)
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just curious, do the people who work on the boat do it year long or every month? and how much does one full trip pay?
At least in norway most bigger fishing ships have 2 crews rotating so that 1 crew work and the other crew have (holyday)
they usually swap the crews while the ship is in dock unloading if they have quotas big enough to fish the whole year.
Pay: usually the pay is a fixd minimum pay + a part of the value of the catch usually making big ship fishermen quite rich,
compared to say teachers, nurses ore most people working 9 to 5 on land.
They must have a large crew of mechanics
to maintain all that equipment.
Fish packed so tight, their mouths are open and eyes popping out 👀
No, the fish have the bends from coming up so fast from deep water. Eyes pop out and mouths stay open. That is why they are all dead.
Have never worked on a fish freezer boat but have on a shrimp one and a lot of just ice boats. Have fished for just about everything here on the east coast of the USA all the way down to C.A. and S.A.. It just drives me crazy when people see how there food is harvested and don't like it but still eat it!!!!! So how much percent of it is by catch??
being a millwright on that ship must make for interesting bodges to fix all the equipment. it'd be fun though.
Awesome!!!
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good job
Bro this is heavy work.....
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Tomorrow Friday - Fish & Chips :)
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I working at United States seafood company at Lead processor is very interesting to work fishing is not easy work very heard work but is good money
Looking at the volume of this ship's hold I don't think there can be any argument we are not over fishing our oceans. 10 or 20 of these vessels would leave an ocean's area lifeless of a species for a long time to come. Unless we limit the world's population growth we should anticipate massive depletion of ocean food sources in the not too distant future.
My dream job...
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My biggest fish I ever caught is 900000000 pounds but these guys did good
Thanks for sharing. Very good study material for my toddler. This is exactly what's showing on his picture book.
We don't understand the last part: the fish meal. Is it made from the rest parts of the fishes? What can the fish meal used for?
fish meal is left over like bones/ offal and unwanted fish
Most fishmeal at least in norway go to fish feed for say salmon and trout.... it also used to be used in chicken and cow feed.
but EU desided to ban fishmeal to be given to animals in case carcasses and bones from animals got mixd in,
with risk of spreading sickness, say bird flu, mad cow disease, and so on..
but most fismeal at least in norway is used as fish feed.. it used to be around 90% fishmeal in salmon pellets,,
but now around 25% fishmeal and most of the rest is say soybeans and corn.
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Oh, that is how we get the frozen fish.
Why they freez it ..?? I always wonder why don't bring it alive in water then sell it fresh
they stay a month sometimes more in the sea collecting the fish u couldnt eat them fresh no where out to be alive dear this for small or more artisanal fishing
if people think they should stop, you are wrong, God allowed humans to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the sky and above all lifestock, kill fish for food not for fun said God
God is a lie
I don't think so the consumers would know what kinda fish they are buying, since in was filleted from many sort of fish and mixed up, frozen in a box.
With the speed of the filleting machine how do you keep the fish species fillets togather for packaging?
schlaznger a separate line fort each species !
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Why is no one commenting about the bearded guy being in almost all the steps of operation.. wonder if they cloned him.. or hes just does most of the work below deck.. 😂
Yeah right? This whole thing is obviously a put on production. They aint showing you all of the innocent sea creatures who died and will just be thrown overboard.
These trawlers are bad - If folks want to eat fish - they need to go fishing.
The trawlers is just one more obvious evident proof that the govs and corps are out to kill and destroy the earth, rather than trying to save it.
Every decision the civy lies nations govs and corps make , is to the detriment of the earth and everything within . Including lectric cars which is a million times worse than oil power. They are already overloading the earths electro magnetic power circuit now - it cant power the lectronics the world is using now, not and power itself and the natural creations within. Everything alive depends on the earths electro magnetic fields to power us, and the migrating critters use the fields to navigate.
When the govs act concerned about fixing the climate, they are lying through their teeth. They are intentionally killing the earth and everything within it. The civy lies nations are part of the devil/ rebellion led by lucifer, after all. They hate everything our father and Yahshua the real christ/ our creators created - especially mankind -
AND MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT - WERE IT UP TO THEM NOTHING NATURAL WOULD REMAIN ALIVE IN THE EARTH, NOT EVEN THE EARTH ITSELF COULD WITHSTAND THIS ONSLAUGHT. It is sik and dieing now.
I wondered how all those fish were processed they have a complete factory on the water
Is fish meal,bones,skin,entrails,blood sold as fertilizer,cat food or McDonald's fish burgers?
fish meal is actually sold as fish food for fish farms!
McD's gets there fish from Alaska and it's Pollock but it's caught in the same way.