The important thing is that it sounds like she's processed her feelings about everything and made her peace. She didn't really sound sad or angry to me, she just moved on.
This is quite normal as most members communicate with each other through Discord, a while ago Miko also said that she only uses Discord to talk to other members and staff, only recently she started using Line to talk to members close to her like Suisei.
The only other member I know miko lines is Sora since there were a few times that Sora just randomly calls her during a stream. Yes Sora gets bored easily and will randomly calls people who are close to her. She does this with Kotone and A-Chan as well if Twitter is anything to go by.
I feel like her answering that question just made it way more believable. She really could’ve just ignored it or came up with some story about how she still stays in contact
@@damirturakbayev5215It might not be relevant but she apparently started a beef with the former Mano Aloe. Something about being treated unfairly, then her fans used that excuse to attack Mano, then when Mano tried to fix things, Rushia bunkered down with a lawyer. This info might be wrong and outdated, but it's all I remember.
People pretending that they know everything again, cringe. You guys should stop, you're just strangers in their situation, you don't know what exactly they're thinking. Get your half assed deduction outta here 🤦
Yeah the milk makes more sense. Wine supposably gets better with time. whatever that's supposed to mean. This just instantly made her look worse. By admitting that she's a shut-in with no friends. Whose only contact with people is coworkers
@@shayoko6no it's wine, because it's a good thing, because now Rushia is being accused of being an abusive asshole and is in a fierce legal battle with her ex-husband. It's only alleged right now, so it's not confirmed in court or anything, but it's literally all over the internet. If you live under a rock, basically Rushia was actually married before she got terminated and a bunch of stuff happened so check it out.
From what I catch, since they already have contact to each other through official holo discord, she only use that to communicate and didn't bother to ask other contact info, so when Ru got thanos snapped, she couldn't find a good time to ask personal contact info
@@joulmn This is more of a personal thing than an introvert thing. I, a “hardcore” introvert save people’s contacts though I only communicate with them when it comes to work so they are acquaintances and customers, not friends. For friends, I am like Pekora on the regard. In my case, they are in Facebook. And I am not the type to meet up with old friends and hang out. Drains away my energy quite fast. I rather play video games and all that at home. Plus, I have an 8 AM to 5 PM work routine. After 5 PM is my alone time all the time which I am totally okay with. That said, that’s just a point of view from one of the many introverts in the world. Don’t let us ruin you extroverts’ way of living.
Yet im still shocked when ID girl came to Japan... Pekora willing to leave her hous and touch the grass ... No .. i Mean she willing to meet them . . I ...
Most Holomem don't even know what the rest are streaming unless they're friends IRL, so it's safe to say they don't know what graduated members are up to unless they're really close. The number of alums will only increase over time, having to keep up with them on top of your own vtuber career is not easy nor necessary.
This is something more people need to understand. These girls are juggling a lot already. Keeping track of former coworkers that they aren’t really that close with on top of their career is just too much to try and juggle.
I would hope things are a little different for genmates. Counting Hololive JP, EN and ID, Pekora has had 57 fellow Holomembers, but she's only had 4 fellow members of Hololive Gen 3.
@@ambasing_omaygot I keep seeing people parroting "animal abuse" but all I remember reading was that Mikeneko had spread misinformation about animal abuse online to slander her ex-partner and that's literally it.
@@DarkmonstaR Rushia (aka Mikeneko) graduated a while ago, the reason being she leaked some internal info that she was contractually bound to not divulge due to a non disclosure agreement to a guy who's famous for making videos about gossip regarding stuff like internet personalities, who was allegedly a friend of hers. Recently (2-3 weeks ago, IIRC) that guy revealed on Twitter that he and her had been married for a year and then divorced and that she was abusing him psychologically, controlling him out of jealousy and cheating on him with a mutual friend. He even accused her of animal abuse. She replied denying most of those statements but admitting she was married with him and that indeed she was texting an ex but she said he wasn't having intercourse with him. Now they are bringing the whole thing in front of judge, I think. They got lawyers involved.
@@Shendue is the gossip guy that she shared NDA stuff a different person than who she married? afaik she was married to a famous utaite/singer and ive never heard about him having a gossip channel
After you left school, did you keep in contact with everyone in your class? I sure didn't. At the end of a work week, do you keep in contact with all your colleagues? I sure don't. This isn't strange or surprising. You can be good friends at a time where circumstance brings you together without persuing further contact outside of it.
I'm pretty sure as hell won't be contacting my fellow kicked coworker when I'm busy with my current work. also knowing pekora, probably every off collab happened because it was prepared by marine, the sun of the 3rd gen. this question should be aimed to marine , not peko. heck even peko is rarely collab with her genmate.
For real, I only talk with my best friends in our group chat, and we play Priconne together in the same clan, but outside of them, I don’t really talk with most of my other former classmates. I’m sure it’d be the same once I start working in different departments or companies.
People often forget that they are coworkers. I mean yeah, you can be friends with your coworkers but to expect to be that close to each of them is kinda weird.
It’s true, a lot of people forget that the levels of friendliness the mems share is mostly for our entertainment. Yeah they might get along, but the whole “oh I love u like my sister” kinda banter they have is often purely for the audience.
Yeah way that I see it is hololive is a large corporation with a lot of holomems. It's a given that a holomem doesn't chat with another or still never had. I think pekora has mentioned that there is even a few jp members that she hasn't talked to.
Holomem are friends towards each other. They get along. But only few are very tight with each other. It’s like you can work together with everyone and everyone can get along just fine. But that doesn’t mean they invite each other for sleep overs and movie nights every other week type of close
At the end of the day, they are only coworkers, so it is understandable that they don't remain in contact after Rushia's termination. The same thing happen to me as well, I was quite friendly toward my coworkers, but after I got fired from my job, most of them didn't contact me and I didn't contact them at all. It's just how working relationships work, not to mention Pekora is an extremely introverted person, so I guess it is kinda hard for her to reach out as well.
I get how it happens, I actually got hired at my current job through an old friend of mine from high school who eventually got fired and I still work there. We kept touch after he was fired but it quickly got awkward and we stopped talking within a few months.
@@Cheww07Rushia became a bomb that was pretty much a risk to anyone that was close to her. She hid a relationship (Wasn’t a career ending thing really) but then she broke company contracts and exposed info to a gossiptuber to secure her reputation. That got her fired and then it turns out she was married to a guy for a year and then got divorced. And the dude said she was abusive and just had a bunch of mental issues. All you gotta know it shit went south completely. Even if half of the things said about her aren’t true her career is still done
Realistically it makes sense I've been really close friends with coworkers in several jobs I've had throughout the years but once I leave eventually the calls and texts stop and you both move on with your lives, I think the only friends I've always kept in contact with are my childhood friends and even then we're talking about 3 of them from like a group of 20, adulting man it can get pretty depressing 😥
@@flutterwind7686 keeping in touch with friends is not clingy goddamnit. Letting friendships fade away because you can’t be bothered to interact, now that’s terrible
People really shouldn't expect so much interaction between the members. Regardless of how close you are, you don't need to always check up on others to remain friends. Idk about people nowadays but friendship aren't that shallow where if you forget to say good morning once then you already are in bad terms. I have a friend who I get in contact with like, 1 month every 1-2 years and everytime we talk its like no time passed in-between. In some situations, you are even considered lucky if literally your parents check up on you every once in a while.
I think the perspective has been skewed a bit because Kanata still talks about Coco pretty often, but their relationship is rather unique by comparison.
Yeah, I also got this friend from college that I haven't met for years, not really close but we usually hang out a lot. One time we met at friends wedding, we talk a lot, laughing and exchange contacts, promise to keep in touch. We don't keep in touch since then. It's not like we have bad relationship, it's just we have our own life and community.
@@EpicNerdsWithCameras quite possibly. Living together for a relatively long time can be much different. Even when Coco graduated, they still live together so such interactions on that situation can understandably feel weird if it just suddenly stopped.
@@hafirenggayuda Yes exactly. I feel like the fear of being forgotten and assuming you get hated if you fail to reach out often is a product from people being so used to parasocial relationships. Especially on the vtuber community it can be quite apparent. But yeah, TRUE irl friendships isn't as fragile as those people think it is. Tho I get that it may possibly come off as "weird" for them. Friendship isn't like internet clout where if you stop tweeting for a month, the other party moves on without you.
Yeah, and Pekora states she only has Discord for other holomems, which is more common than some people think. Also, even if you are good friends with work people, after they leave/you leave, almost always communication tends to fizzle out since you’re used to working together everyday and having that proximity.
This is interesting to hear. I always wondered how much personal communication holomems have with each other and “just discord” makes a lot of sense. I always thought they must always use their character names because if you used real names behind the scenes you’d be at risk of slipping and doxxing someone on air. But of course some of them know each other from before or do have personal relationships so I assume they have to pick up the habit of character name only.
Yeah there are clearly big differences. Pekora and Gura for example seem to keep more to themselves, while there is a big clique in JP that often meets up. Like Suisei, Choko, Aki, Subaru, Marine, Flare, Noel, Towa and some others.
well.. Miko and Suisei already know each other even before joining Hololive.. Kanata and Coco aka KSON is still hangout together IRL even after Kanata move to another house..
They refer to each other their Hololive name so much that it basically becomes a second IRL name. When Council met up for their off collab here in the US, one of them mentioned that Kronii accidentally said "Fauna" out loud in a restaurant lol
well its understandable since its Pekora we talking about, even with current members, she rarely interact or in contact outside collabs or stream..... out of all members, they asking pekora, one of the most introvert member in Hololive... lol
I hate to say this but ngl that's one of those pretty annoying questions that would just throw anyone off or might kill the mood like man, if they already moved on then I think its best you don't ask (something similar to youtubers from Vanoss Crew gets asked questions like this from time to time). Still, I'm impressed Pekora still chose that marshmallow and was smooth with the straightforward response anyone could relate. I too had fun with my former coworkers before but after leaving the company I just don't keep in touch with them anymore unless they are actual friends and more than just coworkers.
she the type girl that not always go drink/off colab with other holomem.... before ru-chan incident ... we rarely hear about her off collab story from other member...the level of friendship not as deep like kanataXCoco
Dude, kanacoco literally live in the same apartment (before Kanata moved at July) of course it will be different because they saw each other everyday. That's why their friendship are different with other members. Some members I think that can reach kanacoco friendship level only okakoro or fubumio
Unsurprising. Pekora is generally socially reserved so contacting someone for small talk or a normie “wanna hang out?” date doesn’t sound like something she’d do. If anyone has kept some measure of contact with Rushia it’d most likely be Marine.
1. they were just coworker 2. this is Pekora, the girl that used to be a cute little introvert that to this day rarely if ever leave her house and interact with people.
Knowing Pekora I knew the answer would be like that lol, rarely she will go out with people just for fun, most of the time she's thinkibg about the streams and content And tbh I can relate to that...
she easily could have just ignored it, but she gave a very pekora answer that feels pretty honest "yeah I just talk to people through discord, I dont really 'chat' with others like that" turns out with all the rushia drama and allegations that came to light, its a very good thing that she is that way.
Allegations that were proven to be mostly untrue and lies, the judge highly suggested Mafumafu to drop it and said that the prosecution would be little to none which doesnt make sense considering the amount of crimes Mafumafu accused Rushia of, he was the one boasting about having evidence and witnesses and that the judge said that to him pretty much cements that he lied A LOT.
@@FantasiephilosophRaku That is all fine. I never said the allegations were true. They were allegations. All my comment said was that she could have ignored it but she told the absolute truth. She only really chats to people on discord so she does not have an offline relationship with Rushia. This worked in her favor because very quickly Rushia came into very negative attention for a while and Pekora could have easily caught some heat being friends with her. It worked in her favor being the way she is.
pekora is still an introvert, so for an introvert once someone got "disconnected", only certain reasons would make introvert people to contact the other person
@LYB I don't think that's what he said. And I doubt that Rushia is "outside of the main friendgroup." If you don't care to contact someone, you won't. Regardless of whether they're introvert or extrovert. Do you see extroverts try to regain contact of everyone they know? We introverts aren't asocial, guys. xD We care about our friends just as deeply if not more. There's so much introvert slander in the Hololive community that's been normalized for some reason, lmao.
@@GongTheHawkeye what LYB said is exactly what I mean... I'm also an introvert, and other than certain people, I rarely call some other people that I once knew in college... I would say there are many types of introverts as well kinda like there's a slight difference between Aqua, Pekora, and Marine's sister
@@zellrang That's because we're individuals lol. Personally, there's multiple people in my life I've lost contact with and I'm struggling to get a hold of them. I'll find a way to meet them again someday though. What I'm trying to say is friend fallouts happen with extroverts too.
Pretty normal. Even when you have co-workers who you were really close to in the office for years, you may never (or very rarely) speak to them after they leave.
People asking why she answered the question, Introverts has a "I won't chat you but you can chat me and I will reply" rule. Maybe it's her way of saying that Ru-chan can contact her. (Also not going on the trouble of searching for her details.) 🤣🤣🤣
People are saying Pekora really dodged a bullet with this one but its more like she just countered an entire nuke with her response considering that we now know Rushia/Mikneko is defently not all that right in the head it seems.
The people that jumped on the bandwagon were not alright in the head, the judge proved that what Mafumafu said were lies and overexagerations, the judge strongly convinced Mafu to drop it and said that the prosecution would be minimal to none, which doesnt make sense considering the crimes he accused her of and considering him saying that he have proof and witnesses and despite that, the judge told him that, which is not a good look for him.
I'm like Pekora on LINE stamps tell a lot and it's much more fun than sending a text. I'm glad she decided to answer this truthfully when she could have avoided it.
@@MakotoTheKnight That's the highest grade Copium dude. You can see the plain difference when Coco graduated. Rushia is just that distant to the other Holomems, even her own genmates.
@@Cosmoman78 I'd argue there's a difference, but I don't wanna dwell too much on it. With Coco it was voluntary and came as a shock to everyone. With Rushia it was an internal matter that compelled the company. I won't disagree that there was distance there, but idk - I don't wanna make too big a deal out of it. Put a different way, it's like saying goodbye to someone who gives notice at work versus someone who's terminated during lunch. There's feelings involved but there's no sense in comparing the two circumstances.
yep, its pretty "business relations" in my book, and i guess its normal if you think about it, if your one coworker resign, its not like you will still in touch except you are close, well i guess they are not that close to begin with...
what im sayin. business. if u are really best friends w your coworker, inside or outside the company doesnt matter, u still treat them the same. this means they were never that close, they were just close enough to work together
Everyone shocked she answered the question but I think we're past the point of pretending that they're some kind of perfect anime goddesses. They're just regular girls who live... Slightly irregular lives.
"Last time I tried, my manager was waiting at the front door with a shotgun. She asked me if I was gonna meet a certain Vshojo member, but I denied and went back inside."
A problem that stems from this question is that a surprising number of people in the community think that everyone in Hololive is just 1 big happy family who are all friends even offline, when the reality is that we have no idea what these people are really like offstream. They are just co-workers at the end of the day, and even those who are in the same generation may not necessarily be as close as you might expect. Streamers are obviously not going to be entirely upfront with their lives, which is expected because streamers are meant to be entertainers who generally put up a front for their audience.
I thought the reason hololive becoming popular is because fans sees hololive as one big family lol I guess the reality is harsh,but the fans are too blinded to see i guess 😅 I cant speak for what every fans thinks
I think it's pretty obvious that not all members are súper friends but people find surprising that pekora and rushia didn't look for each other after rushia termination because with gen 5 and the tempus boys they were the gen that feel more like a genuine group of Friends or Even kinda a family. I feel thats why people are surprised.
It's quiet normal, most of them are workmates more than close friends, so they talk on Discord. I suppose that the ones who are closer use Line for private things.
yeah, exchanging their LINE info seems to be a big thing, usually, and is often done or talked about on stream. seems to be pretty much the step from "work friend" to "personal friend".
@@tienmanhnguyen3422 yeah. recently. not when rushia is still around. i never understand how some ppl think pekora and rushia have a kanacoco relationship.
Some people been watching Pekora for years and they still don't understand that the longest sentence Pekora can write when communicating one on one is "OK"
Do you keep in touch with your former colleague? Probably not, even if you're best friend at the office. You'll have your own thing to take care of; they'll have their own thing to take care of. Unless you're close irl, the only time you two are likely to contact each other is either birthdays, new year, and probably wedding; and your interactions might just be as short as a congratulatory message. The situation between Pekora and Rushia is probably the same. They might be close when Rushia was in Hololive, but they were not friend outside of work, which is believable given how introverted both girls are.
I like Pekora business mentality. You don't need to be friend with your coworkers. Just doing your part and go on your way. (I read somewhere that Pekora doesn't stay behind after work to hang out with her coworkers also)
It's understandable. I've had years-long friends vanish on Discord with no other ways to contact them afterwards. Same with some old Steam friends I used to play with all the time - now they're just "last online 1400 days ago". I'm sure most Discord users have had that happen with someone. The friendship just kinda gets forgotten about after a few months, people go on different paths.
No offence if your friendship communication is only discord, i doubt you can be very close. Idk what's with people expecting the same lvl of closeness with online friends to irl friends. I contact my irl friends not only by discord. Never made any online friends i dont see the point tbh
Hanging with normal person already annoying enough for an introvert, let alone hanging with menhera . PekoPeko and rushia seem like in a good relationship, but as an heavy introvert like PekoPeko is , menhera is the last thing that we want to think about ... Not mentioning about company policy situation . Just lets hope mikene- imean rushia is in good health .
really? asking that question "do you still keep in touch with..." to an introvert? no, buddy... we don't particularly do that. That's extrovert job to be the one who keep in touch with us.
Ugh you just reminded me of my more extroverted friend... She send me a chat a few days ago and I still haven't replied. Thankfully she's always forgor and busy so she's very forgiving.😅
ironically is rushia getting drama in february because of her discord message, i don't think now she would use discord again. just let it be and don't involve other members is the best method
Even though if she still use it, "Uruha Rushia" discord was owned by hololive and cover so if Rushia don't know other members discord, then it will literally impossible to contact them because other members don't have her new discord (and in other hands, I really doubt that Rushia will trying to contact them)
@@williamevan8717 ya, and right now both of them are very busy now. Pekora busy with her job, while rushia busy about her legal action between delutaya and her hospital treatment
I don't throw this term around often, but my goodness, that response was based. Totally honest, not pretending to be upset about it, even just acknowledging the question is pretty ballsy by holomem standards. Once you own a monkey you're on a whole 'nother level.
With respect to the holomems and those who left, the bottom line is they’re ultimately coworkers. Yes they’re on good terms for the most part but not everyone is friends with each other. I assume that Pekora and Rushia, while being in the same gen, are not close to the same level as the others who plan sleepovers, lunch/dinner dates, and outings regularly.
“Do you still chat with Rushia?”
“Have you met me? I don’t chat with people.”
Exactly what I was thinking going into this lmao
But they can't even "meet" her because of her job XD
Yeah, as much as she loves & appreciate her Nousagis, she probably don't want any meet and greet one on one
@@foursoup7922 "peko chan let me… sniff your hair"
@@animeandshenanigans Huh? They aren't forbidden from contacting one another just because they belong to different agencies.
Let's just appreciate the fact that she's even willing to asnwer that honestly.
I mean, she could've just ignore the question.
Yup. Nothing wrong with not keeping in contact with ex co-workers, I never did anyway.
RIP Pururin
I mean for a rabbit that is honest about not wearing pantsu (because she is a rabbit duh) would you expect anything less?
For Pekora it was nothing burger, yet the clipwatchers & drama monger making it big since they don't know shit
The important thing is that it sounds like she's processed her feelings about everything and made her peace. She didn't really sound sad or angry to me, she just moved on.
This is quite normal as most members communicate with each other through Discord, a while ago Miko also said that she only uses Discord to talk to other members and staff, only recently she started using Line to talk to members close to her like Suisei.
The only other member I know miko lines is Sora since there were a few times that Sora just randomly calls her during a stream.
Yes Sora gets bored easily and will randomly calls people who are close to her. She does this with Kotone and A-Chan as well if Twitter is anything to go by.
@@tanvoltz4623 Soda chan just has too much caffeine in her.
And Haachama
What is a Line?
@@tanvoltz4623 The day Sora called Miko during the Uma Musume stream was a Discord call
im suprised she even read and answered the question
I'd imagined she received some similar questions so she decided to address it
I mean why not, it's not like they can't talk about them. Although it wasn't her obligation to answer, her honesty is appreciated.
And her answer its not surprising too. We all know pekora is not socialize person.
I feel like her answering that question just made it way more believable. She really could’ve just ignored it or came up with some story about how she still stays in contact
@GundamGames true, rushia is kind a of menhera and bitter about her termination. The other want to stay away from her.
Pekora just dodge a bullet
Nah she dodge a whole nuclear war 💀
@@albertalu4583Wait, context? I haven't been in the rabbit hole in a Long while after Rushia's termination
Wait what? I know about her boyfriend drama. But did she do something to other holomems including Pekora? What did she do?
@@damirturakbayev5215 She did nothing. Those antis write that garbage under every video that mentions Rushia.
@@damirturakbayev5215It might not be relevant but she apparently started a beef with the former Mano Aloe. Something about being treated unfairly, then her fans used that excuse to attack Mano, then when Mano tried to fix things, Rushia bunkered down with a lawyer. This info might be wrong and outdated, but it's all I remember.
I gotta respect her for being honest about it. She could've just made up some bs story to appease her viewers
she definitely don't do that since that necromancer is menhera lol
that menhera make story even no one touch her ever again
Wrong. If Pekora lies, Rushia could say the truth on her stream so Pekora knows that she only can be honest
People pretending that they know everything again, cringe. You guys should stop, you're just strangers in their situation, you don't know what exactly they're thinking. Get your half assed deduction outta here 🤦
@@date5960 BRUH it proved with current drama with that brat menhera
@@DragonNestR121 Must feel great to have the ability to read people's mind. Enough detective play, kid
"Nah, I would not win."
-Pekora probably
Lmao
This aged like wine
You mean spoiled milk.
@@Vince-A-N-Ono he's right...she eloquently dodged a cannonball of crap
Yeah the milk makes more sense. Wine supposably gets better with time.
whatever that's supposed to mean. This just instantly made her look worse.
By admitting that she's a shut-in with no friends. Whose only contact with people is coworkers
@@shayoko6 Buddy im gonna need you to go back to 4chan
@@shayoko6no it's wine, because it's a good thing, because now Rushia is being accused of being an abusive asshole and is in a fierce legal battle with her ex-husband. It's only alleged right now, so it's not confirmed in court or anything, but it's literally all over the internet. If you live under a rock, basically Rushia was actually married before she got terminated and a bunch of stuff happened so check it out.
We can see Pekora is a true introvert, she doesn't bother to record contact info because she doesn't see the need for it xD
From what I catch, since they already have contact to each other through official holo discord, she only use that to communicate and didn't bother to ask other contact info, so when Ru got thanos snapped, she couldn't find a good time to ask personal contact info
@@foursoup7922 this is why extrovert will never understand introvert.
@@joulmn
This is more of a personal thing than an introvert thing.
I, a “hardcore” introvert save people’s contacts though I only communicate with them when it comes to work so they are acquaintances and customers, not friends.
For friends, I am like Pekora on the regard. In my case, they are in Facebook.
And I am not the type to meet up with old friends and hang out. Drains away my energy quite fast. I rather play video games and all that at home.
Plus, I have an 8 AM to 5 PM work routine. After 5 PM is my alone time all the time which I am totally okay with.
That said, that’s just a point of view from one of the many introverts in the world. Don’t let us ruin you extroverts’ way of living.
@@赤ゲキ i feel u
Yet im still shocked when ID girl came to Japan... Pekora willing to leave her hous and touch the grass ... No .. i Mean she willing to meet them . . I ...
Poor Peko-mama, Pekora only able to answer with her "Ok" LINE Stamp xD
Understandable, they're already in different world afterall
I prefer the big "OK" from LINE stamp rather than the word "ok" or just "k"
ogey peko
ogey peko
Also business relationship...
huh I thought that was normal with your parents unless it's something that requires a longer answer xd
Most Holomem don't even know what the rest are streaming unless they're friends IRL, so it's safe to say they don't know what graduated members are up to unless they're really close. The number of alums will only increase over time, having to keep up with them on top of your own vtuber career is not easy nor necessary.
This is something more people need to understand. These girls are juggling a lot already. Keeping track of former coworkers that they aren’t really that close with on top of their career is just too much to try and juggle.
I would hope things are a little different for genmates. Counting Hololive JP, EN and ID, Pekora has had 57 fellow Holomembers, but she's only had 4 fellow members of Hololive Gen 3.
and this is Pekora we are talking about here. She is an introvert.
Pekora is close friends of rushia irl tho. Even if rushia is in vshojo already they still meet, the same goes for coco.
@@lbneko1084 lwhy re u still in denial even when the said person alr said she doesnt contact rushia anymore?
With the new rumor about Rushia, It's understandable now.
less of a rumor really and just the truth, yeah?
@@minecraftminion4099 Could someone explain me in shortest way possible what's up with that drama at all?
@@Valius_V animal abuse, cheating, mistreatment, set up abusive relationships
Not sure if there's more but that's what she did
@@ambasing_omaygot For me this looks like very hard divorce with both parties spilling dirt on each other. Truth is probably in the middle.
@@ambasing_omaygot I keep seeing people parroting "animal abuse" but all I remember reading was that Mikeneko had spread misinformation about animal abuse online to slander her ex-partner and that's literally it.
looking back. She dodged a huge bomb
They all did, like Suisei once said, Horrrry Shit!
the fact she picked that marshmellow to answer with honestly is already commendable.
she could just not pick that one up if she want to.
Pekora's straight honesty feels very refreshing
With the wild allegations coming out now against mikeneko, this statement takes on different levels.
the depth of PR answer she gave is my thoughts
@@-Medley- Pekora is a marketing genius, it is why she's on the top of the female streaming world.
what ahppened? sry i am not rlly deep into that stuff
@@DarkmonstaR Rushia (aka Mikeneko) graduated a while ago, the reason being she leaked some internal info that she was contractually bound to not divulge due to a non disclosure agreement to a guy who's famous for making videos about gossip regarding stuff like internet personalities, who was allegedly a friend of hers.
Recently (2-3 weeks ago, IIRC) that guy revealed on Twitter that he and her had been married for a year and then divorced and that she was abusing him psychologically, controlling him out of jealousy and cheating on him with a mutual friend. He even accused her of animal abuse.
She replied denying most of those statements but admitting she was married with him and that indeed she was texting an ex but she said he wasn't having intercourse with him.
Now they are bringing the whole thing in front of judge, I think. They got lawyers involved.
@@Shendue is the gossip guy that she shared NDA stuff a different person than who she married? afaik she was married to a famous utaite/singer and ive never heard about him having a gossip channel
the new rumor... it's all clear now...
Understandable.
After you left school, did you keep in contact with everyone in your class?
I sure didn't.
At the end of a work week, do you keep in contact with all your colleagues?
I sure don't.
This isn't strange or surprising. You can be good friends at a time where circumstance brings you together without persuing further contact outside of it.
Technically I could talk to everyone from my graduating class on facebook. It's getting close to 20 years but it still holds up.
yep , this is a great example👍
Expecting the majority of the audience to understand what it's like in the workforce may be a bit too much to ask for, unfortunately.
I'm pretty sure as hell won't be contacting my fellow kicked coworker when I'm busy with my current work. also knowing pekora, probably every off collab happened because it was prepared by marine, the sun of the 3rd gen. this question should be aimed to marine , not peko. heck even peko is rarely collab with her genmate.
For real, I only talk with my best friends in our group chat, and we play Priconne together in the same clan, but outside of them, I don’t really talk with most of my other former classmates. I’m sure it’d be the same once I start working in different departments or companies.
I actually like that Pekora's tone didn't shift at all while discussing this topic. It makes it feel that there isn't any bad blood between them.
even though she act the way she is on her livestream but actually Pekora is an introvert IRL.
source: Marine
After what just happened, I'm glad Pekora doesn't talk to her...
Suddenly this got recommended to me after watching it a year ago. Haha Peko gave us all the clues...
People often forget that they are coworkers. I mean yeah, you can be friends with your coworkers but to expect to be that close to each of them is kinda weird.
It’s true, a lot of people forget that the levels of friendliness the mems share is mostly for our entertainment. Yeah they might get along, but the whole “oh I love u like my sister” kinda banter they have is often purely for the audience.
Yeah way that I see it is hololive is a large corporation with a lot of holomems. It's a given that a holomem doesn't chat with another or still never had. I think pekora has mentioned that there is even a few jp members that she hasn't talked to.
Holomem are friends towards each other. They get along. But only few are very tight with each other.
It’s like you can work together with everyone and everyone can get along just fine. But that doesn’t mean they invite each other for sleep overs and movie nights every other week type of close
Not really weird at all, but the circumstances of Rushia's departure made it awkward. Plus Pekora is a shut-in introvert.
They're professional. And they're the employee. So never surprise me
It's nice that she's honest
UA-cam recommendations at it again
At the end of the day, they are only coworkers, so it is understandable that they don't remain in contact after Rushia's termination.
The same thing happen to me as well, I was quite friendly toward my coworkers, but after I got fired from my job, most of them didn't contact me and I didn't contact them at all.
It's just how working relationships work, not to mention Pekora is an extremely introverted person, so I guess it is kinda hard for her to reach out as well.
I mean, we know how pekora is, an introvert, she is the last person you ask for rushia xD
I get how it happens, I actually got hired at my current job through an old friend of mine from high school who eventually got fired and I still work there. We kept touch after he was fired but it quickly got awkward and we stopped talking within a few months.
Pekora “ok” always gets me 😂
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Well no wonder she didn't, with a friend like that who needs enemy
Can you explain i haven’t been in the rabbit hole for a while
@@Cheww07rushia was abusive to her ex-husband and made up lies. you can search up more about it
@@Cheww07Rushia became a bomb that was pretty much a risk to anyone that was close to her. She hid a relationship (Wasn’t a career ending thing really) but then she broke company contracts and exposed info to a gossiptuber to secure her reputation. That got her fired and then it turns out she was married to a guy for a year and then got divorced. And the dude said she was abusive and just had a bunch of mental issues. All you gotta know it shit went south completely. Even if half of the things said about her aren’t true her career is still done
Realistically it makes sense I've been really close friends with coworkers in several jobs I've had throughout the years but once I leave eventually the calls and texts stop and you both move on with your lives, I think the only friends I've always kept in contact with are my childhood friends and even then we're talking about 3 of them from like a group of 20, adulting man it can get pretty depressing 😥
yeah they're adult too and I think they def understand what they're dealing with, being adult kinda sucks sometimes but that's the reality.
Imagine having friends
It makes sense but does it make that good?
@@Icetea-2000 Yes. Being clingy is a negative trait
@@flutterwind7686 keeping in touch with friends is not clingy goddamnit.
Letting friendships fade away because you can’t be bothered to interact, now that’s terrible
It all make sense now
People really shouldn't expect so much interaction between the members. Regardless of how close you are, you don't need to always check up on others to remain friends. Idk about people nowadays but friendship aren't that shallow where if you forget to say good morning once then you already are in bad terms.
I have a friend who I get in contact with like, 1 month every 1-2 years and everytime we talk its like no time passed in-between.
In some situations, you are even considered lucky if literally your parents check up on you every once in a while.
I think the perspective has been skewed a bit because Kanata still talks about Coco pretty often, but their relationship is rather unique by comparison.
Yeah, I also got this friend from college that I haven't met for years, not really close but we usually hang out a lot. One time we met at friends wedding, we talk a lot, laughing and exchange contacts, promise to keep in touch. We don't keep in touch since then.
It's not like we have bad relationship, it's just we have our own life and community.
@@EpicNerdsWithCameras quite possibly. Living together for a relatively long time can be much different. Even when Coco graduated, they still live together so such interactions on that situation can understandably feel weird if it just suddenly stopped.
@@hafirenggayuda Yes exactly. I feel like the fear of being forgotten and assuming you get hated if you fail to reach out often is a product from people being so used to parasocial relationships. Especially on the vtuber community it can be quite apparent.
But yeah, TRUE irl friendships isn't as fragile as those people think it is. Tho I get that it may possibly come off as "weird" for them.
Friendship isn't like internet clout where if you stop tweeting for a month, the other party moves on without you.
Yeah, and Pekora states she only has Discord for other holomems, which is more common than some people think. Also, even if you are good friends with work people, after they leave/you leave, almost always communication tends to fizzle out since you’re used to working together everyday and having that proximity.
Now it all makes much more sense
This is interesting to hear. I always wondered how much personal communication holomems have with each other and “just discord” makes a lot of sense. I always thought they must always use their character names because if you used real names behind the scenes you’d be at risk of slipping and doxxing someone on air. But of course some of them know each other from before or do have personal relationships so I assume they have to pick up the habit of character name only.
Yeah there are clearly big differences. Pekora and Gura for example seem to keep more to themselves, while there is a big clique in JP that often meets up. Like Suisei, Choko, Aki, Subaru, Marine, Flare, Noel, Towa and some others.
well.. Miko and Suisei already know each other even before joining Hololive.. Kanata and Coco aka KSON is still hangout together IRL even after Kanata move to another house..
They refer to each other their Hololive name so much that it basically becomes a second IRL name. When Council met up for their off collab here in the US, one of them mentioned that Kronii accidentally said "Fauna" out loud in a restaurant lol
Bold of them to assume our resident hikikomori talks with anybody outside her direct relatives (because she has to).
Good answer
rushia was terminated 9 months ago and has, as far as i can tell, moved on. Id be surprised if she still keeps contact with many if any holos
??? It has already been nine months?
@@palesnow7897 yep, that means whatever baby she was knocked up with should be born by now
She still meets with some of them and has been to korones house
Moved on.... By trying to sue Delutaya... LMAO
@@Kaimax61 kek
Friends are the greatest treasure Peko-cwan!
Imagine how happy she is even with a simple text "Hi!" from her 'Co-worker'.
This is par for pekora. She's a natural introvert.
well its understandable since its Pekora we talking about, even with current members, she rarely interact or in contact outside collabs or stream.....
out of all members, they asking pekora, one of the most introvert member in Hololive... lol
Ok no wonder she didn't see her again😂
After the recent information, it makes sense
People are making the “workmates are not always friends” point, which I think is missing the point. This is Pekora, queen of Introverts!
I hate to say this but ngl that's one of those pretty annoying questions that would just throw anyone off or might kill the mood like man, if they already moved on then I think its best you don't ask (something similar to youtubers from Vanoss Crew gets asked questions like this from time to time). Still, I'm impressed Pekora still chose that marshmallow and was smooth with the straightforward response anyone could relate. I too had fun with my former coworkers before but after leaving the company I just don't keep in touch with them anymore unless they are actual friends and more than just coworkers.
yeah some questions better left unasked. this is prime example of "not reading the room" lol
I’m happy that she at least answered honesty
she the type girl that not always go drink/off colab with other holomem.... before ru-chan incident ... we rarely hear about her off collab story from other member...the level of friendship not as deep like kanataXCoco
Dude, kanacoco literally live in the same apartment (before Kanata moved at July) of course it will be different because they saw each other everyday. That's why their friendship are different with other members. Some members I think that can reach kanacoco friendship level only okakoro or fubumio
@@williamevan8717 kanataXcoco a bit high lvl.. what i mean ... she very introverted but active in stream...
Unsurprising. Pekora is generally socially reserved so contacting someone for small talk or a normie “wanna hang out?” date doesn’t sound like something she’d do. If anyone has kept some measure of contact with Rushia it’d most likely be Marine.
1. they were just coworker
2. this is Pekora, the girl that used to be a cute little introvert that to this day rarely if ever leave her house and interact with people.
Sasuga Pekora. One communication method is enough.
SASUGA!!!!
BASED peko
Pekora is an introvert. That's worth always remembering.
Knowing Pekora I knew the answer would be like that lol, rarely she will go out with people just for fun, most of the time she's thinkibg about the streams and content
And tbh I can relate to that...
Workaholic introvert
Peko was veeery prudent.
she easily could have just ignored it, but she gave a very pekora answer that feels pretty honest
"yeah I just talk to people through discord, I dont really 'chat' with others like that"
turns out with all the rushia drama and allegations that came to light, its a very good thing that she is that way.
Allegations that were proven to be mostly untrue and lies, the judge highly suggested Mafumafu to drop it and said that the prosecution would be little to none which doesnt make sense considering the amount of crimes Mafumafu accused Rushia of, he was the one boasting about having evidence and witnesses and that the judge said that to him pretty much cements that he lied A LOT.
@@FantasiephilosophRaku That is all fine. I never said the allegations were true. They were allegations. All my comment said was that she could have ignored it but she told the absolute truth. She only really chats to people on discord so she does not have an offline relationship with Rushia. This worked in her favor because very quickly Rushia came into very negative attention for a while and Pekora could have easily caught some heat being friends with her. It worked in her favor being the way she is.
Real answer: wtf? hell no
its still kinda refreshing how rushia wasnt that much of a taboo despite being terminated
pekora is still an introvert, so for an introvert once someone got "disconnected", only certain reasons would make introvert people to contact the other person
As an introvert, what you said just made no sense.
@LYB I don't think that's what he said. And I doubt that Rushia is "outside of the main friendgroup." If you don't care to contact someone, you won't. Regardless of whether they're introvert or extrovert. Do you see extroverts try to regain contact of everyone they know?
We introverts aren't asocial, guys. xD We care about our friends just as deeply if not more. There's so much introvert slander in the Hololive community that's been normalized for some reason, lmao.
@@GongTheHawkeye what LYB said is exactly what I mean... I'm also an introvert, and other than certain people, I rarely call some other people that I once knew in college...
I would say there are many types of introverts as well kinda like there's a slight difference between Aqua, Pekora, and Marine's sister
@@zellrang That's because we're individuals lol. Personally, there's multiple people in my life I've lost contact with and I'm struggling to get a hold of them. I'll find a way to meet them again someday though.
What I'm trying to say is friend fallouts happen with extroverts too.
pekora and rushia work what ties their friendship so if the ties been cut than both of them wouldn't interact with each other...
Imagine asking this to Pekora of all people. How naive.
Pretty normal. Even when you have co-workers who you were really close to in the office for years, you may never (or very rarely) speak to them after they leave.
People asking why she answered the question,
Introverts has a "I won't chat you but you can chat me and I will reply" rule.
Maybe it's her way of saying that Ru-chan can contact her. (Also not going on the trouble of searching for her details.) 🤣🤣🤣
Hey I'm in this sentence and I feel attacked 🤣🤣
The most honest answers that i have hear ever.
Just a friendly reminder that even in anime, good friends often fall out of contact.
People are saying Pekora really dodged a bullet with this one but its more like she just countered an entire nuke with her response considering that we now know Rushia/Mikneko is defently not all that right in the head it seems.
The people that jumped on the bandwagon were not alright in the head, the judge proved that what Mafumafu said were lies and overexagerations, the judge strongly convinced Mafu to drop it and said that the prosecution would be minimal to none, which doesnt make sense considering the crimes he accused her of and considering him saying that he have proof and witnesses and despite that, the judge told him that, which is not a good look for him.
I'm like Pekora on LINE stamps tell a lot and it's much more fun than sending a text. I'm glad she decided to answer this truthfully when she could have avoided it.
We know why haha
I wonder if Marine feels the same way... when Gen 3 said their goodbye, she was the only one who cried. She was really emotional in that video
Doesn't mean that they weren't sad. Everyone expresses grief differently.
@@MakotoTheKnight That's the highest grade Copium dude. You can see the plain difference when Coco graduated. Rushia is just that distant to the other Holomems, even her own genmates.
@@Cosmoman78 I'd argue there's a difference, but I don't wanna dwell too much on it. With Coco it was voluntary and came as a shock to everyone. With Rushia it was an internal matter that compelled the company. I won't disagree that there was distance there, but idk - I don't wanna make too big a deal out of it.
Put a different way, it's like saying goodbye to someone who gives notice at work versus someone who's terminated during lunch. There's feelings involved but there's no sense in comparing the two circumstances.
Didn't pekora cry in that video, too? Am I misremembering? I thought she was clearly very emotional and sad that Rushia had to leave like that.
@@WeAretheWalrii pretty sure she did
As someone who constantly ghosts my office's work GCs, I can relate to that feeling.
Kudos to Pekora for facing this question head-on.
The rabbit is confident of what she said, and would be something appreciated as an idol.
i see...
Handled that land mine with ease
yep, its pretty "business relations" in my book, and i guess its normal if you think about it, if your one coworker resign, its not like you will still in touch except you are close, well i guess they are not that close to begin with...
what im sayin. business. if u are really best friends w your coworker, inside or outside the company doesnt matter, u still treat them the same. this means they were never that close, they were just close enough to work together
@@LikeACows yep, thats what im trying to say
yep can relate, at least she being honest and realistic about it,
Based, as expected from Pekora-sama
Everyone shocked she answered the question but I think we're past the point of pretending that they're some kind of perfect anime goddesses. They're just regular girls who live... Slightly irregular lives.
"Last time I tried, my manager was waiting at the front door with a shotgun. She asked me if I was gonna meet a certain Vshojo member, but I denied and went back inside."
Honesty is one of Pekora’s best qualities and I very much respect her for it ^^
A problem that stems from this question is that a surprising number of people in the community think that everyone in Hololive is just 1 big happy family who are all friends even offline, when the reality is that we have no idea what these people are really like offstream. They are just co-workers at the end of the day, and even those who are in the same generation may not necessarily be as close as you might expect. Streamers are obviously not going to be entirely upfront with their lives, which is expected because streamers are meant to be entertainers who generally put up a front for their audience.
I thought the reason hololive becoming popular is because fans sees hololive as one big family lol
I guess the reality is harsh,but the fans are too blinded to see i guess 😅
I cant speak for what every fans thinks
I think it's pretty obvious that not all members are súper friends but people find surprising that pekora and rushia didn't look for each other after rushia termination because with gen 5 and the tempus boys they were the gen that feel more like a genuine group of Friends or Even kinda a family. I feel thats why people are surprised.
It's quiet normal, most of them are workmates more than close friends, so they talk on Discord. I suppose that the ones who are closer use Line for private things.
yeah, exchanging their LINE info seems to be a big thing, usually, and is often done or talked about on stream.
seems to be pretty much the step from "work friend" to "personal friend".
Pekora: how do I say this in the nicest way possible? Hell To The No Peko
Basicly she doesn't socialize much outside of work.
this is Pekora, the most shut in Holo member never leave her room
@@kupatempe9698 update your knowledge, Pekora talked about going out quite often thesedays.
@@tienmanhnguyen3422 yeah. recently. not when rushia is still around. i never understand how some ppl think pekora and rushia have a kanacoco relationship.
Some people been watching Pekora for years and they still don't understand that the longest sentence Pekora can write when communicating one on one is "OK"
man i love pekora
i love peko chan she is honest
Do you keep in touch with your former colleague? Probably not, even if you're best friend at the office. You'll have your own thing to take care of; they'll have their own thing to take care of. Unless you're close irl, the only time you two are likely to contact each other is either birthdays, new year, and probably wedding; and your interactions might just be as short as a congratulatory message.
The situation between Pekora and Rushia is probably the same. They might be close when Rushia was in Hololive, but they were not friend outside of work, which is believable given how introverted both girls are.
So nice of Peko to actually answer :)
The forbidden question
it's forbidden because of who we're specifically talking about here.
Ui-mama's line stamps would be the perfect conversation starter.
I like Pekora business mentality. You don't need to be friend with your coworkers. Just doing your part and go on your way.
(I read somewhere that Pekora doesn't stay behind after work to hang out with her coworkers also)
A friend from work left the company and you realized you don’t have their private contact details. Now that, I can confirm, is truly an introvert.
It's understandable. I've had years-long friends vanish on Discord with no other ways to contact them afterwards. Same with some old Steam friends I used to play with all the time - now they're just "last online 1400 days ago". I'm sure most Discord users have had that happen with someone. The friendship just kinda gets forgotten about after a few months, people go on different paths.
No offence if your friendship communication is only discord, i doubt you can be very close. Idk what's with people expecting the same lvl of closeness with online friends to irl friends. I contact my irl friends not only by discord. Never made any online friends i dont see the point tbh
Hanging with normal person already annoying enough for an introvert, let alone hanging with menhera . PekoPeko and rushia seem like in a good relationship, but as an heavy introvert like PekoPeko is , menhera is the last thing that we want to think about ... Not mentioning about company policy situation . Just lets hope mikene- imean rushia is in good health .
really?
asking that question "do you still keep in touch with..." to an introvert?
no, buddy... we don't particularly do that. That's extrovert job to be the one who keep in touch with us.
I agree with ya there. Our introvert energy got really tired easily if there alot of chat. So i always keep it at minimum
Ugh you just reminded me of my more extroverted friend... She send me a chat a few days ago and I still haven't replied. Thankfully she's always forgor and busy so she's very forgiving.😅
some people just can't move on
ironically is rushia getting drama in february because of her discord message, i don't think now she would use discord again. just let it be and don't involve other members is the best method
Even though if she still use it, "Uruha Rushia" discord was owned by hololive and cover so if Rushia don't know other members discord, then it will literally impossible to contact them because other members don't have her new discord (and in other hands, I really doubt that Rushia will trying to contact them)
@@williamevan8717 ya, and right now both of them are very busy now. Pekora busy with her job, while rushia busy about her legal action between delutaya and her hospital treatment
I don't throw this term around often, but my goodness, that response was based. Totally honest, not pretending to be upset about it, even just acknowledging the question is pretty ballsy by holomem standards. Once you own a monkey you're on a whole 'nother level.
With respect to the holomems and those who left, the bottom line is they’re ultimately coworkers. Yes they’re on good terms for the most part but not everyone is friends with each other. I assume that Pekora and Rushia, while being in the same gen, are not close to the same level as the others who plan sleepovers, lunch/dinner dates, and outings regularly.
I get that. Hololive maybe a lot of fun sometimes, but at the end of the day, it's a job. This is how they make a living.
People just need to accept the reality that many(not all) of Hololive members are just coworkers and not friends.
Judging from the amount of drama she's been in recently I say it's for the best
Ikr?! What's the latest eff up? Having beef with Aloe right? I mean...chill lol
More drama? What happened?
Kindly explain. 🙏🏼
@@maimying6146 Rushia got jealous of Triangle and sued her for slander which never happened.
I don't hate "Rushia" but yeah maybe is for the best, at least until things calm down...
@@maimying6146 a lot of legal actions
"Can't everyone just use Discord?" My spirit animal