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Darrow is a prodigy. He is supposed to be the Alexander of his age. The comments about how he is a Mary Sue ignore how the book sets up Darrow to be this mythical military commander. Also, the differences between the colors are over-emphasized in the first book. By the time we get to Lightbringer without spoiling too much, we see greys obsidians, and reds being smarter/more cunning than some golds. The first book definitely sets the golds to be demigod-like figures when viewed from the perspective of a low Red but obviously, Darrow's and our viewpoints change as we are able to more closely examine the flaws of golds.
@@spinlock1785So Says Spinlock, who was…0 written accomplishments outside of UA-cam Comments. And presumably no Stem Degrees either.
my take is that he has 3 good traits which is why he was chosen. He is a helldiver so he has good strength and dexterity, he has unique problem solving aptitude, which is why they tested him first, and he has shown the willingness to push himself and risk his life to achieve his goals. Then everything after that came from the fact that they literally made him smarter and more physically capable than normal Golds through genetic modification, and then he spend months and months training in scenarios that were beyond anything any of the kids he was going against would ever have faced themselves. If you get to the institute and think he's just being magically better than you basically didn't even read the entire first half of the book.
Plus because of Darrow the entire structure of the society changes over time. Red rising is a phenomenal series. How anybody read the first and not fail in love with it. Is unbelievable to me.
1/3 of the way through the first book.
Cannot stand Darrow.
Do not see what people see in him.
I agree with the first 1 star review of video.
Just got to the part of where they explain how great he is at “extrapolating reasoning”
Meanwhile the guy fails to realize they are slaves while a loved one is holding his hand through the realization.
Lame.
@NotYourCitizenAnymore you don't seem to understand that being smart and good at logic puzzles doesn't mean you go around applying that to everything in life. The entire point is he is very good at problem solving when he focuses on it. He only ever applies that previously to his helldiving. For reference just look at real life and find genius level people who do or say otherwise completely stupid/irrational things. How many geniuses can calculate complex mathematical problems but can't run a business. Or better yet, look at chess grand masters. Hikaru Nakamura is one of the best chess players ever, clearly a genius at logical problems, but he has said himself that doesn't make you brilliant in general, just really good at spacial puzzles and problem solving.
This is what i love about the book community in comparison to gaming and tv shows is that opinions are ALL OVER THE PLACE and here is the best part both sides usually have a point, it really incentives the person to actually read and make their own opinion on a certain book instead of blindly following certain side.
Agree with this. I watch a lot of booktube and there isn't a single content creator that I agree with even most of the time. It's always a 50/50 shot. It's got to be the most individualized medium there is, probably because each novel requires a significant time investment and they are doing so many different things at once that everyone is welcome to have varying opinions on.
Love the Star Trek reference with the Khan line
I cannot wait for you to get to the end of the first trilogy. I also absolutely adore the next two books so far. Iron gold was one I didn’t appreciate on my first read but man, it hits so hard on a reread.
Getting toward the end of Morning Star now - cant wait 🥂
I want to say thank you to you both. I watched a random video from you guys where I searched about fantasy books to read. (I'm 30 and just rediscovered my love for reading). Your video recommended a few books but my heart was drawn to red rising from your passion. Then I watched your no spoiler part of the red rising review video... And I was sold. Thank you for recomending this series. I've devoured these books. I partially live on Mars now, while reading Golden Son. I'll be going to you guys for my next read rec too. Loved your previous discussions on it. Now I'm going to press play and have my view of this series so far analyzed. Thank you again! Appreciate both of your takes, and I'm excited to watch more of your content!
Thanks a bunch-that makes us real happy that you love it, hell yea! Bloddydamn amazing series and appreciate you watching 👊
That boy has to watch Star Trek.
Agreed.
Is it wrong that I’m more offended that he didn’t know that came from Wrath of Kahn than someone giving Red Rising a 1 star review?
@@MG-vy7od nah... same.
@@MG-vy7od Yes!
Been a fan since the beginning! Love these guys! They deserve to get 10K plus subs! Bump this post!
THANKYOU!!
I was hoping you guys would make this video because I was wanting to see how Austin would react to one star reviews of Red Rising lol.
Off-brand cereal for the win!! Haha It's about time. Fun video gents. Loved the S.O.😜Thanks.
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OMG the ending line in this video is the funniest thing I’ve seen from y’all. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
This made me smile so much. Tomorrow I'm adding my 1-star review on Goodreads so this was very informative, thanks :)
First off, I just finished this book yesterday and I love it so much. It's nearly perfect in my eyes. That said, you can't expect everyone to like the same stuff you do. I'm fine knowing that people hated it.
Couldn’t agree more
I've never given a book one star but I'm currently reading Red Rising and it may be my first one. Will persevere and actually finish the book though because apparently it gets better.
not going to lie, I get a lot of these critiques, but I love red rising. I haven't even read the following books yet so no spoilers, but still this was one of my favorite books, with one caveat: my real love is for the campaign. it is cool to see Darrow's humble beginnings, but it did feel really long despite the short work pierce brown makes of his sentences, and Eo felt like somebody who could never be real (I suppose that is also because we only see from Darrow's pov, so to him Eo was the closest thing to an angel in the red hell of mars)
but that campaign, oh lord, those sweet sweet sieges that happened, the capturing of enemies, political maneuvering, brotherhood, betrayal, vengeance, love and conquest. these all brought a smile to my soul. I audibly said "oh shit it's happening" once Cassius lead Darrow out of the keep and began confronting him about the death of his brother. I raged at the fate of Pax Au Telemanus, dreaded the unification of the Augustus siblings, and laughed at the death of the Olympians. I suppose it helps that I am a fan of Shadiversity, who planted in me a love of classical warfare.
Red rising series is one of my top three favorite all times series ever. Red rising, the sun eater, and hell divers. Those three are my all time favorites.
The thing most average readers/people don’t realize is that Darrow is far above his peers is because he was the top 1% of reds so when you multiply that by 6 which is what dancer said his bone density was after his carving that his bones were 6x as strong as a red where as a normal gold is only 4x as strong as a red
he said because Darrow was so malnourished to even the average person he had to do it 6X. He was overcompensating since golds are 4X the average person/color
I read these reviews after reading the book and they made me so angry so I’m really glad you made this video 😂 the flat character comments are insane to me I thought even minuscule characters had depth 🤯
@@spinlock1785 You mean hard sci-fi? Red Rising is soft sci-fi, meaning it's not trying to be 100% accurate with the science and tech. It's a plot device, similar to magic in fantasy. And fantasy's magic systems also vary in depth, depending on how it's used in the story.
I'm sure this will all go right over your head though. You seem like the type of person to read a book because they want to look smarter.
@@spinlock1785 The issue with that is some people don't wanna be overwhelmed with the science, and math and blah blah blah... that is hard sci-fi. Red rising is meant to be focused around the adventures rather than the science of space itself. People read it knowing that. I don't want to return home after a long day just to read 10 pages about how a spaceship takes to the sky. I'm not knocking it I just don't want to read that.
Red Rising is a Space Opera, not a sci-fi
@@spinlock1785 Once again. I completely understand where you are coming from, the issue is I do not read Red Rising for its sci fi, I read it because of the plot and themes within it. I rarely even read sci-fi because I like my reading to be an escape rather than something "realistic". The only other Sci-fi I like is dune and idk how you feel about that.
@@spinlock1785 what books do you recommend then?
@@spinlock1785 The first books hate is understandable, but I promise it gets so much better. Like I previously said given the context of how the Author wrote it the first novel having a YA feel makes sense.
Congratulations Mads for getting your “off brand cereal” comment in.
Editing real good in this one
It's from Wrath of Khan. We don't talk about Into Darkness.
I just finished Red Rising yesterday. I gave it a 4/5. I only had problems with the pacing. The beginning felt a bit too drawn out. The action was insane, and I love Darrow. He reminded me of a certain character in a certain 14 (plus prequel) book series that somebody has the Juniper editions of, hint hint. I didn't however like his wife. 🤐 Mustang forever!
Nice 🫡. What was your favorite action scene?
@@2ToRamble Olympus definitely.
U talking about PJO? IDK alot of books out of the one I read 😅
Darrow fails and gets beat multiple times in the book. He was genetically engineered be be a top teir human specimen, even by gold standards and still barely stacks up to some of them. I dont understand how ppl think hes amazing at everything
Yeah, and he gets his ass kicked all the time, especially in the later books
yeah, lots of people clearly don't pay attention when they are reading. He is genetically superior to the average gold and he goes through sim training with Harmony that gives him skills and toughness that a typical teenager would have no experience with. Its commented often at the institute how the others are struggling but its nothing compared to his training with harmony or working in the mines. And even despite this there are things he is just not good at because he has no way of training it such as fighting with a razor, or riding a horse; the sort of things posh golds would have learned but he would have had nobody to teach him.
NO I thought this was an old video so I immediately went for the Golden Sun version of the 1 star comments and it doesn’t exist yet 😢
It will soon!
Are y’all going to review any of the other books in the series?
Absolutely 🫡. Morning Star next
The first review is on the money. Reminds me of manga and manhwa. Cheesy lines. Gary Stu indeed.
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Any plans to try and see Pierce on his tour for Light Bringer? I SO BADLY wanted to see him in person, but the closest stop to me is over four hours away, and during the work week. Le sigh!!
We are 100% seeing him 🔥 - but that’s unfortunate you cant, we will definitely be uploading a video about it!
@@2ToRamble Awesome, can't wait to watch it!
My understanding of the SA was because they were meant to create a hierarchy amongst themselves, which is why they had to take the Golds from the other houses as slaves and create the Reds and Pinks in an archaic situation.
This was emphasized when Darrow told Mustang that in this situation they were all reds until someone won the game.
Having not read this book, this was a confusing video to watch, but I did watch it.
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Some of these folks in the reviews sound like they enjoy being dissatisfied. It's imperfect, sure, and like any human effort, could be picked apart and critiqued if that's your thing. But it's just so much more fun to enjoy the story and assume positive intent. There can always be better representation of individuals and collectives, in every work of art, but that shouldn't stop us from enjoying the pieces written with heart. I thought it was hugely entertaining and I'm excited to read others in the series.
Some perfectly valid criticisms in these reviews. There’s some very cringeworthy dialogue which isn’t helped by the present tense writing style. I think giving up at 60% through is a shame though as the final third is by far the most interesting.
RR has amazing female characters! Also, Eo is a very complex character and gets more complex as the series goes on! She's not a basic perfect wife character.
Exactly. One of the reviews bashes Darrow for seeing Eo as perfect in the first book. But that’s literally the entire point of her character.
One of the comments says that Darrow idolizes her, and I was like yes! Yes he does! It’s not a good thing! It’s unhealthy for him! And he realizes that and looks back on his relationship with her further in the series!
@@Vhz203 yes
@@runawaygemm5397 100%
@@runawaygemm5397 I loved those parts too really fleshes out Darrow's progression as a character.
Some readers have an insatiable appetite for a specific genre, and if "Red Rising" doesn't fit neatly into their preferred category, they may feel a bit like a hungry panda at an all-you-can-eat sushi buffet. They expected a certain type of book and were left feeling bewildered by the mix of dystopia, science fiction, and action-packed adventure.🤣I love this Sushi.
Well said!
I am kind of going through this right now. I have read the Arc of a Scythe series, which I read after not reading for a few years, and I am having such a hard time getting through red rising.
A Mix of dystopian sf and Action?
Habe you every read anything in your live? Do doj know abything about generell?
Disdobian is a sf subgenere hallo? And Action is a Part of a Ton of books?
Take James bond a thriller spy subgenere wiith action - as maney as you sayed red rising has!
That goes for the magiority of books out there! Make ig mske sense!
Storm Front noir urban fantasy horror Action Detektiv murder mystery, you May be overwehelmet and it is a good first book.
This, is ATM, my favorite Sci-fi series🥰. I remember the "uncomfortable" assault parts... I remember thinking... 😈"That MF needs to be 'taken out' in a way that is excruciatingly painful, degrading, and slowwww." ... Bloodydamn! No wonder I am loving how dark the progression of the 4th, 5th, and (oh boy, I hope) the 6th books have been after 10+ yrs! Really looking forward to Lightbringer.
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@@spinlock1785 you sure feel incredibly entitled with your 50+ comments pushing a hateful attitude about books and being a gatekeeper in sci fi for what? Really feels like "go touch some grass" type energy to me.
I started reading Shadow of the Gods after my dad read it and really liked it. I got about 80-100 pages in and absolutely hated it. It just moved so slow.
George Lucas once said in a interview that every director is a narcissist, even a documentary director. He's like a King. It's just that a director doesn't have to kill people to get what he wants, he does it with a lot less resources than a king has to manage a kingdom. I forgot which year was it but it was on UA-cam.
Some feminist saying it’s a male show with not women.
Literally the most powerful are woman
Started listening to the audiobook (On chapter 2 😂) some of this is confusing
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Red Rising series is pure junk food. Its like eating fried chicken for every meal.
Pierce Brown becomes more and more unrealiable with each new installment so that by the time you get to Book 3 you can basically guess whats going go happen by just guessing the opposite of what he tells you is going to happen.
What I love about so many of those things is that they never allude to much la at the first half of the book. The list guy, the “bloody damn” guy… they all got filtered by the first half of the book. Skill issue imo.
pallid: lacking sparkle or liveliness : DULL
Thankya!
The name escapes me now, but what about the brother of the guy Darrow killed at the passage using that death as motivator, it's basically the same as Eo's death: something that didn't need to happen but did as part of the story.
Julian!
@@2ToRamble exactly
I almost dropped it early and gave it a one star. But I kept going and like it now. Only on book 3 though
I got to this video because I'm also currently hating it. If it gets better then I will continue.
When the hunger games was … okay (I didn’t skim)… and red rising was a bad version of it…. I do give it, it’s opening chapters. They were great. Amazing! They set me up to buy the book. Damn! I bought the entire series. But there’s only so much, rose tinted glasses, can do for the rest of it. I was hooked by wheel of time, word for word (So don’t accuse me of not knowing how to read), and skimmed RR also. I’d give it 3 stars. I’m hoping the next is better. So far, these reviews seem pretty right on. However, they should be 3 stars.
Here’s my chart: 5 stars - world shaking great. 4 - good. 3 - mediocre and skim-able. 2 - bad. 1 - insulting to the reader - criminal. My “Indie author” scale: 4 stars and up - continues sales. 3.9 and down - destroys sales.
KHAAAAAAAAN!!! Austin, Austin, Austin... Really showing your lack of sci-fi boni fides.
It's from Star Trek: Wrath of Khan and then they did it again in Star Trek: Into Darkness.
Ahhh. Im a summer child. So much to watch and read
@@2ToRamble to be fair... I haven't seen anything Star Trek except a couple of the new movies. So I'm also a summer child. Haha
The way I understood the last comment was that the women who entered the institute are supposed to be equally as capable and skilled as the men (there is ofc a ranking but it's not all men at the top and women at the bottom of that ranking, the distinction is based on the individual, not their sex). Yet there are several mentions of rape and someone says the line "in this world they are as good as pinks" (I'm paraphrasing). One could see that as an implication that even some of the most skilled women (ranked pinks) are powerless and inferior to the ones raping them, here men.
While I was reading the book the rape did bother me a lot and I couldn't quite pinpoint why (other than the obvious) and personally I dont know if it's because I'm detecting some misogyny but either way as a woman it made me uncomfortable.
Red Rising is a solid OK first book. I don't think it's fair to look at it as a complete and finished book. Instead, it's really a novella that introduces the rest of the series. I think the true "book 1" of the series is Golden Son, and that does make sense because the following 6 books after Red Rising are divided into two trilogies. It's similar to Brandon Sanderson's The Alloy of Law, which introduces the second trilogy of Mistborn books.
Hail Reaper
1st book wasnt the best, but it isa fun read once it gets going. The rest of the trilogy was really good
You're saying red rising with its very lack luster plot twists us as good as or better then the block buster books
I liked the first three books. I stopped midway through book 4. :/
Haha. Man explained.
Yeah Darrow isn’t supposed be good at fighting he’s just been a miner he whole life (btw I liked the book )
Just finished this the other day. As someone who gave it a GENEROUS 3/5 on goodreads, I find these reviews to be completely valid and correct.
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The first book is easily the worst one
Agreed 🙋♀️. Maybe 2/5 for me
I sent a video reply to you guys (had too much to stay to type it out) via FB to you guys on the Golden Son video but similar comments apply here. I don't think Red Rising is a 1 out of 5 stars, but I do think that it's OK but not fantastic and probably around 3 stars for prose and the way some of the women are written/treated. The first person staccato style is jarring and those quotes you mentioned in the style of: "They thought they could kill me. They were wrong." "They thought they were better than me. They weren't" I always hear in the style of the trailer from Steven Seagal's "marked for death": "One thought he was invincible... the other thought he could fly." "So?" "They were both wrong." I think it's just that Darrow's phrasing comes across as kind of comically pompous and self-important sometimes when I get that the writer is trying to write it terse and all teeth clenchy.
My video reply mentions the over-use of sexual assault against women to signal to the reader who the Truly Bad Guys are versus the Bad But Can Be Redeemed guys so I won't go into it here... and I don't find the fridging trope misogynistic so much as a bit contrived and painful. it's not always women who get fridged. A major character is fridged in Homeland to progress Carrie's arc. It's the dog who was fridged in John Wick .. It's not inherently against women. in the Red Rising series, poor Eo is fridged and then pulled out of the fridged and re-fridged again in book 2 in order to motivate Darrow.
ETA: Also I'm so sorry for being so negative about this book. I have to admit I was ok with it but then as soon as you gave it a 10 score i.e. perfect like Tolkien etc .. that immediately made me start to think about it a lot more critically than I would have. If it had a 6 or 7 out of 10, I would have thought - yup, agree .. it was an entertaining read. As soon as it gets classified as 'perfect', then I start to think a lot harder about it :P
Absolutely appreciate it! We’ll have to check our your video response. I get that I (austin) am way higher on the book than the average person. Can understand it’s not your taste, especially if you’re still giving it a 3 star.
“No I don’t think so” … but I’m not going to explain why I feel that way is basically this entire video
12:45 YES. THAT’S THE POINT. HE IS FORCED TO RECKON WITH THE FACT THAT HIS PERCEPTION OF HIS WIFE MIGHT BE WRONG AS A CHARACTER DEVEOPMENT! THAT BECOMES RELEVANT!
21:36 I did not know that… I knew I shouldn’t have watched this video cause of spoilers. Shame on me.
Nooooo. Damn. Do you plan on reading the series?
@@2ToRamble I’m currently reading Red Rising, I just got to the part where Darrow figures out Titus is a red and Cassius kills him, so I wasn’t too far off, but so far that’s the only spoiler I’ve gotten about the book
You need to be quite emotionally and intellectually immature to really enjoy this type of YA writing. I think a lot of the 1 star reviews are overly harsh, but it’s undeniably baby fiction lol
Arguing that the writing in the first book isnt cringy is gunny "my dextrous hands" is imprinted in ky mind. I love the series but the first book is goify at times, still awesome tho.
That first review has a point....those two lines hurt me. Bad. Lol
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I'd give it 3 because it was dirivitive. Darrow develops as a gold too quickly to be believable. He also stands on that soapbox a bit too much . I can't believe you don't know the Khan reference. The second book was better.
Go bills!
Why do your fingers bend like that??
Here’s my problem with him being a Gary Stu (being rash doesn’t count if you’re also the best at everything else. I’ll expand later). It makes him boring to me. He’s so strong, so smart, so handsome that I’m never really trying to guess how he’s going to overcome any of his obstacles. There’s no tension when he’s about to get his exams back bc we already know, he aced everything. There was no tension in-SPOILER AHEAD
- him being locked in that room with the guy (who yes was too vaguely described for me to remember or care about) in the last test and being told one has to die bc we KNOW he’s going to win. I kept thinking, wouldn’t it have been so much better if Darrow was by far one of the weaker candidates, assumed to fail as the test was designed, only to come through victorious through his own intelligence/suaveness or SOMETHING against all expectations? Then we can see him struggle to survive in a vicious academy he wasn’t supposed to ever see! That would have me on the edge of my seat, I promise you. OR make him super strong, great fighter whatever and then make him DUMB. Are you kidding I’d love to follow a himbo in his adventures through murder college. Granted, that kind of character might not be able to download a lifetime’s worth of elite mannerisms, education, culture etc the way Darrow did but… also why could Darrow even accomplish that? Can we all agree that bit was a little eye-roll-enducing for our OG MC to be able to do? No just me??
It’s fine. I’m fine. 2/5 for me but honestly glad everyone else had a good time!
Darrow was specifically engineered and trained to dominate the test. If you read the rest of the series book one is essentially a prologue to the actual story. If Darrow isn’t able to dominate in the academy there’s no possible way for him to be successful in the real world. Also if you’re take away from this book is that it would be better if Darrow was a “Himbo” it’s just not your genre.
@@dirtydan4656 oh was he like genetically engineered to be the best at everything?
I mean you’re right it’s not really made for me. Complexity in character is one of the first and foremost things I look for and all these MCs are just starting to feel painfully genetic now a days.
Also there’s a himbo out there that could blow your mind mark my word. Sorry I’ll shut up and go reread Hyperion now 😶🌫️
@@b.a.hazard6787 He was physically enhanced through surgery and was pre selected out of billions of reds for his cleverness and ingenuity. The book series also expands on his flaws later on.
How can anyone hate Red Rising?!?!?! 😭😂
Calling Darrow an invincible do-n-wrong protagonist has similar vibes to calling constant failure in TFA Rey a Mary Sue. Without sexism obviously.
That 1st commentor sounds like he's projecting😂
Red rising was the second worst English book I've ever read, but it's still better than all the fiction books in my own language.
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I also hated the book and gave it one star. I can't do garystu characters.
I will never understand why fridging is a neg. Come on! it gives weight to characters motivations, and no one ever cares when its a father or mentor, only when its a female. If its used lazily or badly fine but i dont get the hate
Yeah I (austin) dont mind the trope when its done well like Red Rising
Well.. 1 star is a bit of a stretch.. I would give it a 3.5 only for the first book. Other books are 😘😘
Red Rising -- 5 star. Bufflao Bills hat -- 0 Stars.:)
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How are you going to rate good books when you give red rising a 9????? It's good, not a 8 or 9. Lotr is around there not some interesting teenage fantasy
Wow, I can't believe these reViewers would leave a oneStar on such a well written yaNovel. Sentence fragment.
Anyways I couldn't stomach the style and the school plot was an incredibly boring take on an interesting premise so I gave up halfway through book 2. ⭐
Damn, fair enough. Book 2 as a whole was even better though if you ever feel the urge to finish it!
As someone who would probably give a 3 star review to RR I think it's funny to see elements I agree and disagree with in these reviews.
1. Kon (Star Trek Wrath of Khan reference btw): The lines where it basically goes _everyone is stupid and incompetent....except for me_ did make me cringe. They're everywhere. One I recall specifically is near the end some of the golds are playing a game where they try to slap each other's hand and Darrow goes something like _I don't play anymore because I always win. Let the children have their fun_ made me roll my eyes so hard. Like we get it, Darrow is just better than everyone else.
2. Lata's point 7 is one that I thought about a lot in the book. I get that his mining experience could help him to be a lot more mentally and emotionally tough than the golds who have lived lives of privilege, but some of the things like how Darrow's fingers are more dexterous from mining made me think what, how would that work? Same with the sling blade, using a blade to cut your way out of mining mishaps won't make you able to use that blade in a sword fight.
3. Dragoness: she seems to have forgotten that Darrow is motivated by TWO fridged characters: Eo and his father. Only Eo gets fridged on screen, but it's definitely not sexism here
4. Holly: It's actually quite common in real life for people to idealize dead loved ones. I see it in my own family, after my grandfather (dad's dad) died, my dad idealized him. He forgot about his flaws and magnified all his good attributes. So it's not Pierce Brown idealizing Eo, it's Darrow idealizing her.
5. Temo: not much to say about this although I don't know how it's got a neoliberal agenda..? Its agenda if anything is pretty much a standard "don't be mean and racist" message.
6. Jacob: Seems the reviewer is angry about the derivative premise of the book, which is a fair criticism that has been said a lot. RR's main premise "underdog rises up against dystopian authoritarian society" is pretty common, but that's not a bad thing. A lot of the best stories out there follow a very standard premise.
7. Nicole: I think there's a subset of people who go around looking to be offended by anything, seems this is the case here. Yeah violence happens to the women but did she forget about the horrible things that also happen to the male characters? If anything, I'd say that the violence is pretty even between the men and women (with the exception of the sexual violence).
I think a lot of these people did not read the entirety of them! 😊
misogynist hunger games except every woman in the book is smart and a badass, and the ruler of the galaxy is a woman. what.
Something about two men bothered by women pointing out misogyny in a book just doesn’t sit right with me
The being bothered is because there isn’t any misogyny in the book…… the books universe is built around the fact that skin color, sexual orientation, and gender means nothing. Their class does. Eo, Orion, aja, Virginia, victra, lyria, and many many many more are all extremely deep and interesting characters. As well the series is teeming with droves of incredible strong and important characters that are written well and WOMEN. The review was ignorant inherently. Thats what bothered them. There’s a part where one character thought immediately other characters were against him because he’s gay…. Nope because they thought he committed treason. “You do not follow me because I’m the smartest, mustang is.” The arrogant brash main character ‘Garry Sue’ recognizes that a woman is far superior than he is.
Point out misogyny to me and I’ll delete my comment. 💜
As a woman, red rising is NOT a misogynistic text 😀 some characters are misogynistic emulating real life. I totally understand not wanting to read about violence against women, but in no way is it the same as glorifying said violence
These reviews 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Honestly, I loved Red Rising until he got to the Institute. The book was recommended to me by a friend and I found it amazing until that point. I really can't deal with reading about sexual violence, especially when it seems normalized and like a sport in the book. I also really don't like the writing of the female characters, because they're always described as objects for the male gaze. My friend though decided to get snippy with me and call it "my loss" which was annoying, but I mean whatever. I've heard great things about the book, but it just isn't for me.
Doesn’t know what Khan is smh. He tasks me
Im a fraud
Im convinced anyones who didn’t like these book because of the “misogyny” have never read anything for more advanced than ACOTAR
She may have skimmed 36k books! She did not read Red Rising fully…
it's so boring & doesn't feel like a sci fi YA book at all
Slag all these reviews
I'd give zero stars to this book. It reads like it was written by a fratboy. All characters are copies of each other. Cringy, clichéd and boring.
The first book was weird imo
What would you rate it?
@@2ToRamble a 3/5… being generous there
Feminists didn’t like the book? It must be good.
the first review was so spot on 😂 Red Rising was without a doubt the worst book I read this year
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Its a mid ass book tbh 💀💀💀
Red Rising was drivel. An unclever amalgamation of tired tropes, from ancient Rome to Harry Potter and the Hunger Games. And that fake Irish slang dialogue? Pathetic. Unnecessarily brutal and really, just a study in writing style decadence. Young readers like this crap because they have no life experience and no nuance. To them everything is black and white. No stars.
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These people who gave all these one stars are weak af