@nick Sins are only seen by Christian people, so It does not matter for others. I am saying that as someone who also is Christian. Like, why would you care about something so unimportant. And also this is the internet.
@nick calling out people for their behavior does nothing without telling them about Christ or at least telling them the tangible consequences. In other words, try talking to people irl.
@@Landmasters "Rivalry built on play" doesn't get this hype from my experience. You gotta put your reputation and shame on the line for this kind of shit.
Rayyan Ahmed Drama still spice things up, like there was no reason for Salem to change to Hero but he still did just to meme on Leffen because he has been crying for Hero bans since release.
@@rayyanahmed9561 Since the beef involved both the melee and ultimate community, this fight was way more hype and relatable imo. Both players had their reputation on the line and was a culmination of years of research. Watching this match live was like seeing the grand finale of a 24 episode anime. Legit couldn't stop smiling 😁
@@nemi9217 Leffen is a polarizing character, although in this case and time Salem was a much more hated competitor than Leffen due to stuff he's said in the past
The one bald dude on the lower right with glasses and a beard looked like he was disappointed when leffen won. Just look at his reaction to the last spike and tech
Austin Brooks Rae Melee's hero* Salem said things like Melee is trash and Leffen pretty much won for Melee but I'm not sure what you meant with ultimate hero is he the ultimate hero or is he the hero of ultimate?
This was a video of two people competing in Ultimate too. So what is the significance of the comment in the first place? It's to touch on Salems background as a smash competitor. Salem wasn't the only Bayonetta in smash 4, yet he won EVO. He has s good streak against Nairo, m2k, and Zero in Brawl, and though hasn't been placing too well, has done decently in Ultimate. I disagree with Salem strongly with thr Melee crap, but that doesn't mean I'm going to hate on him. He's a good player, entertaining, and a good person. Just because he has an opinion a strongly disagree with, and I mean STRONGLY, doesn't mean he sucks.
Believe it or not, Salem is a great player overall and one of the most successful player in the samsh scene. He is often see as the best non meta knight player in the history of brawl and one of the best samsh4 player to ever touched this game. His bayonetta was really feared. In ultimate, despite changing mains every month, he stills place well 10 yearq after his debut in the scene. Reminder that ultimate is the most stacked samsh game or even FGC game of all time with players like glutonny or zackray or cosmos who can't even get a top 10 place in the ranking
@Sebastian Ramirez Who cares if he doesn't understand the game? Allow him to have his opinion even if it contains a lack of sense. Also, the melle scene insulted him first. Rather than attacking them back, I feel as though he was more so defending himself. Once again, I do think his opinion on melee is pretty dumb, but that doesn't deny him his skill and himself as a person.
I love and hate leffen but damn he's so good for the community sometimes. He gets involved in drama that makes the sets he plays that much more hype. Dudes an anti hero.
Both of them dropped a game in their sets in the previous round to Seth & Toast respectively & Leffen had also dropped a game in both of his 2 sets before Seth against J-Rush (Inkling) & Don (Mario). With Don even going up 70% to 0% on their last stocks in game 3 but getting anxious & losing. The reason I only mentioned that specific is that Don vs Leffen is the only one of the 4 sets to have a VOD for some reason.
Even though both these players are like, the most toxic top players in the smash community, that was one of the most hype games I've seen ever. Rivalries are always the best.
7:09 Imagine if you was 8 years old... 7:10 Mom: You can play some video games tonight 7:12 Mom: Only for a couple of hours though... 7:14 Mom: Oh wait I forgot it's the weekend. Have fun!
I’m a huge TSM fan from the league of legends side, but holy fuck. The intensity of this match reminded me of the 2016 Worlds. I miss these chants and the intensity. TSM TSM TSM
Can some some one explain to me how the villain of melee is the hero of ultimate? Like how did this leffen is a good guy narrative happen? Or did every one just rally behind leffen because Salem is an idiot
Leffen used to be a villain, but now he’s not seen as that by many people. He’s kind of like Negan from the Walking Dead. He still shows villain-esque traits but is no longer seen as that by much of the community. Leffen was also the best chance of a Melee player doing well in Ultimate, and considering Salem said that Leffen couldn’t beat him, combined with him attacking the Melee scene, everyone wanted Leffen to win just to prove him wrong
It's been so long I see a lot of mangled "years of research" references in the comments, but this set was every bit as hype as I knew it would be way back then
Watching this makes me ask, why Leffen is hated? I mean, I dont follow him on twitter or twitch, could someone explain me? If Im not bad the Salem drama was bc he says Melee is not a game, but idk about Leffen
YS he's not hated much anymore by the Melee community but some Ultimate fans don't like him because he has strong opinions that come off as arrogant to many. He was hated a long time ago by the melee community because of his abrasive personality and arrogance. He's gotten a lot better and was actually a good villain in Melee because he backed up all the shit talking he did with wins. Salem on the other hand...
As a melee player I love that the TSM chants caught on but the melee one didn't because at this point it's no longer about melee vs ultimate it's about hating Salem
Honestly I'm not hyped for player rivalries built on dumbass drama. In honesty its better for attachments like that to be built upon actual skill through many many turney match ups rather than a Twitter tyraid
>plays the new OP character instead of the one Leffen called bad "haha guys i went to far with bm, this would really have showed Leffen haha, how sad i didn't stick with Snake for easy win haha"
@@alphajnitro0072 Even if he was low tier, Salem acts like he wanted to make a statement by not playing his main, even though there was no bigger statement then beating Leffen with the character he called bad.
@@WhoMightThis1Be Leffen hates hero. He thinks the character is bullshit. Wants him banned. And then Salem switches from snake to hero AFTER taking a match when the set is 1-1 in bracket? Why would you think him switching is anything other than a statement?
@@alphajnitro0072 It wasn't a statement. It was basically: If I win I can say lmao you lost to my Hero If I lose I can say I would've won if I stayed Snake but... This is essentially what he tweeted when he lost
Melee wins
LN sick research
"No contest"
MELEE! MELEE! MELEE!
FLAWLESS VICTORY
Like always
TSM chant sounds like a goddamn war chant.
@nick Sins are only seen by Christian people, so It does not matter for others.
I am saying that as someone who also is Christian. Like, why would you care about something so unimportant. And also this is the internet.
@nick calling out people for their behavior does nothing without telling them about Christ or at least telling them the tangible consequences. In other words, try talking to people irl.
you can thank LoL for that.
He must be that annoying guy holding people hostage on a bus talking non stop about his beliefs
@@johnthomas6073 ikr? Regis Golden days are a while back, but he's always been a good owner.
This is why drama is so good, it adds more weight to the matches.
I'd prefer a rivalry built on play and not one person acting like a dumbass, but yeah the volume of this crowd was pretty great
Until someone throws a crab
@@Landmasters "Rivalry built on play" doesn't get this hype from my experience. You gotta put your reputation and shame on the line for this kind of shit.
Rayyan Ahmed Drama still spice things up, like there was no reason for Salem to change to Hero but he still did just to meme on Leffen because he has been crying for Hero bans since release.
@@rayyanahmed9561 Since the beef involved both the melee and ultimate community, this fight was way more hype and relatable imo. Both players had their reputation on the line and was a culmination of years of research.
Watching this match live was like seeing the grand finale of a 24 episode anime. Legit couldn't stop smiling 😁
Closest thing to an apex salty suite in a minute! Let's goo
i really miss those man :(
You will most likely never hear a crowd as one sided as that ever again. Every person was for Leffen
Near the start, i heard some mvg chants but i agree that this was 99% for leffen
@@dustdt Those were sarcastic MVG chants i'm pretty sure
Cwendt2013 I don’t watch a lot of competitive but this is the first time I’ve seen them side with leffen
@@nemi9217 Leffen is a polarizing character, although in this case and time Salem was a much more hated competitor than Leffen due to stuff he's said in the past
The one bald dude on the lower right with glasses and a beard looked like he was disappointed when leffen won. Just look at his reaction to the last spike and tech
Leffen goes from melees villain to its greatest hero
Leffen is Smash's Vegeta.
From Melee's Villain to the Ultimate Hero
bro this is so true
Austin Brooks Rae Melee's hero* Salem said things like Melee is trash and Leffen pretty much won for Melee but I'm not sure what you meant with ultimate hero is he the ultimate hero or is he the hero of ultimate?
This gonna be in the Ult doc
I bet this footage took hours of research.
can confirm
Ha
This is really amazing when you consider the fact that Leffen literally had ZERO experience playing Smash before Ult came out!!
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This is really amazing when you consider the fact that no one was rooting for Salem and he almost won.
The screams of agony when Salem used Twack, lmao.
The best reaction is the ginger guy at 7:10. He was excited to sad to excited all withing the 1.2 seconds of the ending
Lmaoo
GreenFalcon18 he’s the real winner
Hey that was me LMAO
@@PaviFlye sick reaction haha
Salem's really gonna john on Twitter when he lost to someone who hardly even plays the game. People still think this man wasn't carried in Smash 4.
He wasn't...Brawl existed and he didn't even main Meta Knight...
What does smash 4 have to do with Ultimate?
This was a video of two people competing in Ultimate too. So what is the significance of the comment in the first place? It's to touch on Salems background as a smash competitor. Salem wasn't the only Bayonetta in smash 4, yet he won EVO. He has s good streak against Nairo, m2k, and Zero in Brawl, and though hasn't been placing too well, has done decently in Ultimate. I disagree with Salem strongly with thr Melee crap, but that doesn't mean I'm going to hate on him. He's a good player, entertaining, and a good person. Just because he has an opinion a strongly disagree with, and I mean STRONGLY, doesn't mean he sucks.
Believe it or not, Salem is a great player overall and one of the most successful player in the samsh scene. He is often see as the best non meta knight player in the history of brawl and one of the best samsh4 player to ever touched this game. His bayonetta was really feared. In ultimate, despite changing mains every month, he stills place well 10 yearq after his debut in the scene. Reminder that ultimate is the most stacked samsh game or even FGC game of all time with players like glutonny or zackray or cosmos who can't even get a top 10 place in the ranking
@Sebastian Ramirez Who cares if he doesn't understand the game? Allow him to have his opinion even if it contains a lack of sense. Also, the melle scene insulted him first. Rather than attacking them back, I feel as though he was more so defending himself. Once again, I do think his opinion on melee is pretty dumb, but that doesn't deny him his skill and himself as a person.
Damn the dude with countless hours of research lost to a dragon ball player?
Years*
@@kylebeck8251 pokemon player* did you even watch the video
@@MagneticSSBM he's talking about how Leffen us primarily a DBFZ player
I love the reaction of the crowd when they realized the d-air didn't kill, but then they screamed louder at the up-air
I love seeing Hugs, Hbox, D1, Gimr, and other notable people going crazy
Man. Watching this, you'd think everyone was against Salem that day. Ha ha ha ha!
You can hear drowned out "MVG" chants, especially during Game 1.
TSM chant is mad hype though honestly.
Idk if "against" him but certainly nobody cared about him, which made the match pretty shitty imo
JapanEyedPinoy Anyone Who was with his years of research doesn’t deserve to be in the community
@@m2kspichu144 Damn, so much hate, what did he do, killed Sakurai's dog?
@@Ebani It's mostly a joke. I don't like him but I don't care that much. I don't get why people thought he was right though.
such great energy and an amazing moment. I rarely watch matches these days but early ult was smth else man
I love how excited the crowd is for leffen then Salem up tilts leffen and NOOOO reaction 😂
WTF how could all these people cheer for someone who doesn’t play a real smash game?!?!?!?
Pringus Khan lol
I love and hate leffen but damn he's so good for the community sometimes. He gets involved in drama that makes the sets he plays that much more hype. Dudes an anti hero.
Must’ve been hard for Salem to put his years of research on hold to go to SSC
Bromar O Years of research is never going away
Bromar O you foolish child
Bromar O it’s not even about being funny anymore
Bromar O this is the smash community, this is just about never letting anyone forget anything that ever happened, ever
1974: Ali vs Frazier
2019: Leffen vs Salem
Over a year later and this has aged like fine wine
1:47 THE WAY THE TSM CHANTS ENDED WHEN LEFFEN DIED LMAOOOOOOOO
why did they have an american flag for leffen lmao
I believe it is because he lives in the US now
@@kyuukev he doesn't
duck has he gotten his visa? haven’t been following him for the last year or two
Because Leff is a man of the peoplem
Probably an editing error from last match or something
Battle of the villains. Nothing more epic to close off this chapter
7:09 watch everyone reaction it is almost the same that is actually amazing
Both of them dropped a game in their sets in the previous round to Seth & Toast respectively & Leffen had also dropped a game in both of his 2 sets before Seth against J-Rush (Inkling) & Don (Mario). With Don even going up 70% to 0% on their last stocks in game 3 but getting anxious & losing. The reason I only mentioned that specific is that Don vs Leffen is the only one of the 4 sets to have a VOD for some reason.
The day Leffen became a hero
Sick set but wish they chanted 'melee' instead lel
nah it wasn't melee vs 4/ultimate at this point. It was smash v salem
Melee till we die baby!
Even though both these players are like, the most toxic top players in the smash community, that was one of the most hype games I've seen ever. Rivalries are always the best.
Kinda feel bad for salem that people seem to hate him so much, but it is pretty much his fault. I still like him on m2k's vids and streams though
He brought that hate to himself
Wait why do people dislike him so much, from what I’ve seen on m2k’s vids he seems like a really chill cool dude
@@_tsukuyomi_4878because he made clown ass tweet about melee and antagonized a bunch of ppl in that community
Imagine loosing to a guy who doesnt play a real smash game
Imagine what it must feel like to get beat by someone who’s never played a smash game.
Looking back this event was crazy for leffen...He won melee and he won for melee
Lol I can see me far into the crowd
I think even if you were that one person supporting salem, you still had fun watching the set
The best Face-Turn of a Smash Player! XD
Anyone else specifically search for this? Love this reaction. #FuckSalem
Hashtags created to hate on/curse people are never reasonable, let alone good or even necessary.
Leffen is the Vegeta of Smash Bros. What does this make Salem?
Clinton Chelak yamcha
probably jeise or something lol
Alexa, this is so good, play Respect Your Elders
7:09
Imagine if you was 8 years old...
7:10 Mom: You can play some video games tonight
7:12 Mom: Only for a couple of hours though...
7:14 Mom: Oh wait I forgot it's the weekend. Have fun!
Dvon this is the worse comment i’ve ever seen
@@numbskull3126 worst*
Man, you gotta love the fgc
Closest thing to a Salty Suite.
I’m a huge TSM fan from the league of legends side, but holy fuck. The intensity of this match reminded me of the 2016 Worlds. I miss these chants and the intensity. TSM TSM TSM
Can some some one explain to me how the villain of melee is the hero of ultimate? Like how did this leffen is a good guy narrative happen? Or did every one just rally behind leffen because Salem is an idiot
This season’s script writers are on some other shit. I’m digging it.
Idk Leffen is still pretty hated
@@Liam-qj8ti i used 2 h8 em 2 but hes great now many ppl do like him especially after this
@@ryversims4422 he still likes to complain about everything
Leffen used to be a villain, but now he’s not seen as that by many people. He’s kind of like Negan from the Walking Dead. He still shows villain-esque traits but is no longer seen as that by much of the community. Leffen was also the best chance of a Melee player doing well in Ultimate, and considering Salem said that Leffen couldn’t beat him, combined with him attacking the Melee scene, everyone wanted Leffen to win just to prove him wrong
yeah can we talk about how this is perfect!
"Finally..."
so many chills what a great Set
What a cool crowd. So hype.
It's been so long I see a lot of mangled "years of research" references in the comments, but this set was every bit as hype as I knew it would be way back then
bet that room smells great
I like how when those guys interrupted the TSM chant a few people looked over at them like "bro wtf"
This is my favorite set so far in ultimate
Never thought ultimate could be hype
frostyBUNNEY it still isn’t. The drama is what the crowd was going crazy for (me included)
Yall delusional
@@MrRenegadeTre I'm just being real bro. My b
A smash game that doesn't put me to sleep. It's pretty hype
Months later and everything Salem called did happen. Who would have know.
Salem's hero is so free it even comes with salty french fries.
do you have leo vs sam game 4?
Ryan KO unfortunately no, sorry! My ride was leaving right after melee top 8 so i didnt catch ult top 8.
like the liberation of france
Those fucking fundamentals, damn
Is that Anti on the crowd?
Melee gives him shit and ultimate praise him
“yEaRs oF REsEaRch”
7:11 = hype
7:13 = minor distress
7:14 = meter breaking levels of hype
Watching this makes me ask, why Leffen is hated? I mean, I dont follow him on twitter or twitch, could someone explain me?
If Im not bad the Salem drama was bc he says Melee is not a game, but idk about Leffen
YS he's not hated much anymore by the Melee community but some Ultimate fans don't like him because he has strong opinions that come off as arrogant to many. He was hated a long time ago by the melee community because of his abrasive personality and arrogance. He's gotten a lot better and was actually a good villain in Melee because he backed up all the shit talking he did with wins. Salem on the other hand...
@@ephraimkwon66 Ah i see, I didnt know that, thank you
“OHHHHH”
“WHAT”
“OHHHHHHHHHH”
im prodigy's 667th subscriber
I feel sad for salem tbh it's not fair even if you hate him or not
lol why is that
Years of research...
This confirms it: Little Mac is broken...
Remember when leffen was the villain? ah good times
HYPEEEEEEEEE!
As a melee player I love that the TSM chants caught on but the melee one didn't because at this point it's no longer about melee vs ultimate it's about hating Salem
Damn no one was cheering for Salem lmao Hail the Salem Slayer!!!
imagine the smell
Lmao
lol is that kola in the black
From villain
to hero?
Salem essentially ripped the villain role from Leffen, so yeah? Though with Leffen's "honesty" on twitter, he's more of an anti-hero.
really this crowd...I guess that the type ppl that play smash .
Honestly I'm not hyped for player rivalries built on dumbass drama. In honesty its better for attachments like that to be built upon actual skill through many many turney match ups rather than a Twitter tyraid
Why did someone chant MVD??
Theodore Yuen they were chanting MVG, salem’s sponsor/team
No doubt the crowd wanted Leffen to win so they an just chant TSM :)
so who is the villian or the hero in this scenario..
Salem played Hero, so
Leffen is the anti-hero.
Why is Leffen the fan favorite here?
Marcus Rondo because he didn’t say stupid shit on Twitter recently ?
Smash community is amazing
I'm confused. Someone get me up to speed, but was this for melee? If so, thank you leffen xD
for the people
Finally...
Dude i can feel it haha
Why they hate salem or something??
C33 he called melee not a real smash game lol
Imagine cheering for leffen lmao
>plays the new OP character instead of the one Leffen called bad
"haha guys i went to far with bm, this would really have showed Leffen haha, how sad i didn't stick with Snake for easy win haha"
If you think Hero is op then you've actually gotta do some research.
Cuz the character is probably high-mid their at best.
@@alphajnitro0072 Even if he was low tier, Salem acts like he wanted to make a statement by not playing his main, even though there was no bigger statement then beating Leffen with the character he called bad.
@@WhoMightThis1Be
Leffen hates hero. He thinks the character is bullshit. Wants him banned. And then Salem switches from snake to hero AFTER taking a match when the set is 1-1 in bracket? Why would you think him switching is anything other than a statement?
@@alphajnitro0072 It wasn't a statement. It was basically:
If I win I can say lmao you lost to my Hero
If I lose I can say I would've won if I stayed Snake but...
This is essentially what he tweeted when he lost
@@temp6t
"If I win i can say you Lost to my hero"
Is this not a statement?
Its clear what he waz trying to do.
lmao was gimr chanting mvd?
Guess it just takes skill to beat Hero
i watched this with my nose plugged
hbox cheering for Salem smh
Smash 4 to ultimate is an easier transition than melee to ultimate and leffen still wins. Melee is the superior smash title for competitive play
Big leff
some1 sign pr0digy7
Why do they keep getting hyped from leaden a using broken ass ivysaur (at the time)