Excellent. Thanks again Tim for another highly entertaining and educational film. I sometimes fly a Tutor with Cadets; never going to fly one of these though.....sad face.
Thanks again for another informative video. I think these new aircraft are exciting and have a lot of potential. I really hope I pass the officer selection and get to fly these one day.
The last aircraft called the Prefect, owned by the RAF was the Slingsby T30 designated the Prefect TX1 by the RAF. It was a single seat glider and was flown by instructors and advanced students at Air Cadet Gliding Schools. They first flew in 1948 and went out of service in the 1970s when the Air Cadet fleet went to GRP gliders. I have spent many a happy hour in a Prefect and occasionally still do.
You know what I really appreciate Tim, it's not so much the data or information you provide because as you mention it's public. you can find these things. It's the context around the information, why we have many fewer planes for training, for instance. Thanks. I'll tell you one other thing, the confusion between giving requirements and choosing the answer is not unique to your industry, it's pervasive. Giving requirements means articulating what you want to achieve, not which model and colour you want.
The 120 looks nice. Excellent smooth lines but Grob have been working on those for years with their gliders. I spent 5 happy years working on JP's at CF with 7 FTS. As much as I love the old JP, they were certainly heavy in maintenance and fuel. I suspect that the Grob will be a lot easier on the maintenance and certainly able to fly more than 45 minutes. despite the fact that it has a prop, everything else is jet fighter standard, I do like that. I look forwards to seeing them at the airshows
Tim, just come across this one of your older vids. The RAF can convince themselves of what they wish, but it is now so run down that it is clearly no longer War capable, Reason, numbers. Its a numbers game, losses in combat or accidents will decimate the whole force in a matter of days in any wider conflict. As an ex Jaguar pilot, we expected our force in the 1970s/80s to last no more that 72 hours in a European War and that was when we had the numbers in Germany and UK based. The RAF is now playing at being a Military Air Force, the government and civil service have no interest in a credible Military.
Great insight again Tim, thank you. You said in your bit about procurement you're looking for a platform that can train the various skill sets a front line fast jet pilot will need once they reach OCU. You've also mentioned a couple of times in recent videos about whether some of the skills you teach in basic fast jet aren't necessarily relevant in the modern RAF. My question is how do you guys arrive at the list of skills you want to train the newbies on? Purely your own experience(s) from you and your peers own time on the front line? Or do you speak with the guys on the various OCU and draw a list of requirements from there?
Good Q, James. We hold forums where the front-line guys all pass us information about what they feel is needed to fly and operate their aircraft. I have a fair idea myself as do my team who are all aviators ourselves and have been involved in flying training for many years. That said, I don't currently fly RPAS, F-35, Typhoon or GR4 so I speak to the experts and those are the instructors on the OCUs. We have A LOT of meetings!
Who uses rudder !! You do , and I’ve seen you do it on later T2 videos. Enjoyed the video . Strikes me it’s very ambitious for someone with zero flying time. What chop rate do the RAF budget for ?
Excellent video as always Tim. One minor question however. Although the current purchase of Prefects seems sufficient for the demands of EFT, what can we expect the UAS programme and AEF to experience? Will they simply maintain the service of the Tutor?
Will the reduced numbers of basic training aircraft reduce the ATC's chances of getting cadets on AEF flights? Or are the Tutors staying in service for the time being? Cheers.
I agree, Grob are a brilliant aircraft, I leaned to fly on a 115. An absolute dream. As for the haters... Let them, they are wasting their life being angry discourteous people.Great channel, thanks for giving your free time to do this. I love it.
Is there an opportunity for more aircraft to be bought if the current numbers turn out to not be enough? Thanks for the great and informative video again.
Great video. The 120TP looks v capable. The description of the flying training syllabus brought back many fond memories of my Bulldog in ULAS some 20 years ago....speaking of which, how will University Air Squadrons fit into the new training regime you described? With so few aircraft on order, will they retain the Tutor for a while? Keep up the blogging....v interesting stuff.
Any chance in the future you could talk a bit about the new H135 and H145 Airbus helicopters that are coming to replace the Squirrel and the Griffin. I have my OASC on the 6th next month so any info such as when we could expect them to come into service etc would be brilliant.
So, Tim - in terms of requirements.. can you tell Ascent that you need an airfield specifically for the Texan - with 2 into wind runways, 4 hangars and a central location with an RLG nearby? Oohh. - maybe just like Linton On Ouse...😉
@@FastJetPerformance I'm just hoping that as the requirement for more aircraft becomes apparent (if it isn't already), they'll also realise the requirement for Linton..!! Just hoping the MOD hangs onto the station long enough for it to get to that stage!
interesting aircraft and seems very "airbus" like, given there is two throttles, are they going to be mechanically interlinked? 180 is also a fairly gentle cruise lol good luck fitting all these slow and fast aircraft in the same airspace
I'd be interested to find out why the Canadians put everyone through the Texan II before getting split up into rotary, multi, or fast jet. It seems like the RAF's way makes more sense, I mean what does a future rotary pilot really gain out of flying a Texan?
Dan, they're still being finalised across all platforms but the Prefect has about 10% in the FTD (flying training device) and B Flt on the Hawk T2 (the weapons bit) has half of the hours synthetic ie. 35 hours airborne and 35 hours in the sim. (A Flt on the Hawk T2 is almost all airborne - 60 hours). The Texan T6 is still being formulated at the moment as is Phenom but I would expect 20 to 25% synthetic (sim based) on those two aircraft. Hope that helps.
That's great thanks. Do you know the hours on the current platforms? AFCO advise knowing this but no reliable/consistent numbers seem to be available. Appreciate it!
Was in the UAS in 94 and went through that syllabus on the Bulldog. Bit older now and find I'm pushing my undergraduates to get involved. What platform will the UAS guys be using?
You're not making sense - the aircraft should be painted black so it can be seen better by other aircraft but it doesn't have aircon, no. The aircraft can't be painted black because of thermal stress issues with the wing material.
@@FastJetPerformance I understood that from the video, but I was referring to the fact that the aircraft doesn't have AC already so if it was painted black, you would have gotten a Sauna.
Is there an RAF stance om the ammount of negativity surrounding the forthcoming F35? anti stealth radar developments rendering it ineffective, poor range, avionic issues and payload etc? I personally think a lot of it is sour grapes from market competitors, do you have an opionion?
Steve, I have buddies flying the F-35 who talk highly of it. Like any aircraft it will take time to mature and it needs to come onto service and we need to start learning how to operate it properly as it is a different way of thinking and our first truly stealth platform. People are always negative about new things that they don't understand. I think you comments about market competitors may have some value.
Fast Jet Performance thanks for the reply. I remember similar negativity about the Typhoon/Euro fighter, it didn't take long to capture public affection once it entered service
pissed myself laughing at that intro "I, Cannot, Be, Bought"
hahahaha absolutely loved the cannot be bought bit
Just finished it, top video. Really helpful and informative. Thanks for taking the time to make this.
These just keep getting better and better! Thanks Tim!
Thanks these are great videos and very informative....
Excellent. Thanks again Tim for another highly entertaining and educational film. I sometimes fly a Tutor with Cadets; never going to fly one of these though.....sad face.
Dude just came across your vids and they are amazing and great inside view .
Thanks again for another informative video. I think these new aircraft are exciting and have a lot of potential. I really hope I pass the officer selection and get to fly these one day.
The intro to this is amazing!
Absolutely loved this and again some great Info!
Just discovered this channel. Let the haters hate, keep up the good work. You have already inspired my 7 yr old!
".....and some bling bling glasses." Very funny. Very informative video too, sir.
Very good presentation...
The last aircraft called the Prefect, owned by the RAF was the Slingsby T30 designated the Prefect TX1 by the RAF. It was a single seat glider and was flown by instructors and advanced students at Air Cadet Gliding Schools. They first flew in 1948 and went out of service in the 1970s when the Air Cadet fleet went to GRP gliders. I have spent many a happy hour in a Prefect and occasionally still do.
Damm, that was a bloody good video.
Great info Tim.
That's a beast of an aircraft for EFT level. It's a long way from the bulldog and chippy!
Per ardua
You know what I really appreciate Tim, it's not so much the data or information you provide because as you mention it's public. you can find these things. It's the context around the information, why we have many fewer planes for training, for instance. Thanks.
I'll tell you one other thing, the confusion between giving requirements and choosing the answer is not unique to your industry, it's pervasive. Giving requirements means articulating what you want to achieve, not which model and colour you want.
Yes, Michael - you get it, I wish others did!
The 120 looks nice. Excellent smooth lines but Grob have been working on those for years with their gliders. I spent 5 happy years working on JP's at CF with 7 FTS. As much as I love the old JP, they were certainly heavy in maintenance and fuel. I suspect that the Grob will be a lot easier on the maintenance and certainly able to fly more than 45 minutes. despite the fact that it has a prop, everything else is jet fighter standard, I do like that. I look forwards to seeing them at the airshows
The Grob tutor was the First aircraft I ever flew at RAF Cranwell! 13 years old at the time
Going into AAC, waiting for EFT dates. Cannot wait to get in the Prefect, sounds like a right laugh crashing at 100mph.
Tim, just come across this one of your older vids. The RAF can convince themselves of what they wish, but it is now so run down that it is clearly no longer War capable, Reason, numbers. Its a numbers game, losses in combat or accidents will decimate the whole force in a matter of days in any wider conflict. As an ex Jaguar pilot, we expected our force in the 1970s/80s to last no more that 72 hours in a European War and that was when we had the numbers in Germany and UK based. The RAF is now playing at being a Military Air Force, the government and civil service have no interest in a credible Military.
Completely agree - I hope we don't have to find out just how limited technology is when compared with numbers.
I just noticed the reg on that Grob. D-ETPS.
Deep detail
Great insight again Tim, thank you.
You said in your bit about procurement you're looking for a platform that can train the various skill sets a front line fast jet pilot will need once they reach OCU. You've also mentioned a couple of times in recent videos about whether some of the skills you teach in basic fast jet aren't necessarily relevant in the modern RAF. My question is how do you guys arrive at the list of skills you want to train the newbies on? Purely your own experience(s) from you and your peers own time on the front line? Or do you speak with the guys on the various OCU and draw a list of requirements from there?
Good Q, James. We hold forums where the front-line guys all pass us information about what they feel is needed to fly and operate their aircraft. I have a fair idea myself as do my team who are all aviators ourselves and have been involved in flying training for many years. That said, I don't currently fly RPAS, F-35, Typhoon or GR4 so I speak to the experts and those are the instructors on the OCUs.
We have A LOT of meetings!
It seems even the best of us cannot resist free swag.
Who uses rudder !! You do , and I’ve seen you do it on later T2 videos.
Enjoyed the video . Strikes me it’s very ambitious for someone with zero flying time. What chop rate do the RAF budget for ?
Excellent video as always Tim. One minor question however. Although the current purchase of Prefects seems sufficient for the demands of EFT, what can we expect the UAS programme and AEF to experience? Will they simply maintain the service of the Tutor?
Yes - they will have the Grob Tutor.
all air cadet fly a grob tutor and its brill, i have flown that amazing thing twice
Will the reduced numbers of basic training aircraft reduce the ATC's chances of getting cadets on AEF flights? Or are the Tutors staying in service for the time being? Cheers.
Tutors are staying to fly cadets around in and for UASs!
I agree, Grob are a brilliant aircraft, I leaned to fly on a 115. An absolute dream. As for the haters... Let them, they are wasting their life being angry discourteous people.Great channel, thanks for giving your free time to do this. I love it.
Is there an opportunity for more aircraft to be bought if the current numbers turn out to not be enough? Thanks for the great and informative video again.
Yes, Josh - all of our contracts have this option.
Great video. The 120TP looks v capable. The description of the flying training syllabus brought back many fond memories of my Bulldog in ULAS some 20 years ago....speaking of which, how will University Air Squadrons fit into the new training regime you described? With so few aircraft on order, will they retain the Tutor for a while? Keep up the blogging....v interesting stuff.
Good q, I was wondering about UAS and cadet AEF.
Grob Tutors will go to the AEFs and UASs.
You should do 'day in the life'.
Any chance in the future you could talk a bit about the new H135 and H145 Airbus helicopters that are coming to replace the Squirrel and the Griffin. I have my OASC on the 6th next month so any info such as when we could expect them to come into service etc would be brilliant.
Will try to although helicopters are the devil's work!
So, Tim - in terms of requirements.. can you tell Ascent that you need an airfield specifically for the Texan - with 2 into wind runways, 4 hangars and a central location with an RLG nearby? Oohh. - maybe just like Linton On Ouse...😉
It was an RAF decision but all the requirements team agreed with you at the time. Those baby jets are going to love the salt air of Anglesey.
@@FastJetPerformance I'm just hoping that as the requirement for more aircraft becomes apparent (if it isn't already), they'll also realise the requirement for Linton..!! Just hoping the MOD hangs onto the station long enough for it to get to that stage!
@@jjmfaviation521 I think they are ordering another 3 T6s.
Jeez, I'd give anything to be 20 years old again
Tim, did you by any chance sell that orange lanyard a little while ago?
Negative, not sure where it is - think the wife had it on her car keys - I don't monetise gifts.
interesting aircraft and seems very "airbus" like, given there is two throttles, are they going to be mechanically interlinked? 180 is also a fairly gentle cruise lol good luck fitting all these slow and fast aircraft in the same airspace
Throttles are linked - 180 kts will be busy for baby students especially in the airspace we are using.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the military aren’t buying any aircraft (the contractors are)
Would you recommend applying for the University Air Squadron?
I'll definitely be aiming to join, thanks for the info mate.
Yeah, I would - they are full of some very fun and focused people and I speak to them a lot.
I'd be interested to find out why the Canadians put everyone through the Texan II before getting split up into rotary, multi, or fast jet. It seems like the RAF's way makes more sense, I mean what does a future rotary pilot really gain out of flying a Texan?
Are you doing a video on the Embraer?
Will do but I need to get to play with it first, should be soon hopefully.
Hi Tim, do you know the flying hours and sim hours during training on the new platforms? Struggling to find any info. Thanks!
Dan, they're still being finalised across all platforms but the Prefect has about 10% in the FTD (flying training device) and B Flt on the Hawk T2 (the weapons bit) has half of the hours synthetic ie. 35 hours airborne and 35 hours in the sim. (A Flt on the Hawk T2 is almost all airborne - 60 hours). The Texan T6 is still being formulated at the moment as is Phenom but I would expect 20 to 25% synthetic (sim based) on those two aircraft. Hope that helps.
That's great thanks. Do you know the hours on the current platforms? AFCO advise knowing this but no reliable/consistent numbers seem to be available. Appreciate it!
Truth bombs. Yash.
Are the throttles on the both sides coupled?
Yes, Mike.
Are there any analogue instruments incase if 'iPad' failure?
Yes, there is standby instrumentation.
Couldn’t make out what you said about EASA ?
So will this aircraft be used by the UAS also?
Alex Brown no, the UAS will continue to use the Grob Tutor.
Remember to remove the tag before you fly...😊
If black isn’t possible, why not yellow or red or something?
Was in the UAS in 94 and went through that syllabus on the Bulldog. Bit older now and find I'm pushing my undergraduates to get involved. What platform will the UAS guys be using?
Grob Tutor 115E.
Excellent, many thanks FJP. Won't be too far out when I describe it then.
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You just said your version doesn't have air conditioning. Wtf do you would the aircraft to be painted black?
You're not making sense - the aircraft should be painted black so it can be seen better by other aircraft but it doesn't have aircon, no. The aircraft can't be painted black because of thermal stress issues with the wing material.
@@FastJetPerformance I understood that from the video, but I was referring to the fact that the aircraft doesn't have AC already so if it was painted black, you would have gotten a Sauna.
@@almerindaromeira8352 yes, that is very true, Alemerinda :)
Is there an RAF stance om the ammount of negativity surrounding the forthcoming F35? anti stealth radar developments rendering it ineffective, poor range, avionic issues and payload etc? I personally think a lot of it is sour grapes from market competitors, do you have an opionion?
Steve, I have buddies flying the F-35 who talk highly of it. Like any aircraft it will take time to mature and it needs to come onto service and we need to start learning how to operate it properly as it is a different way of thinking and our first truly stealth platform. People are always negative about new things that they don't understand. I think you comments about market competitors may have some value.
Fast Jet Performance thanks for the reply. I remember similar negativity about the Typhoon/Euro fighter, it didn't take long to capture public affection once it entered service
There is a lot of talking in this. Can we have more pictures and clips at least please.
He's not the messiah...
Out of interest and to compare academic intelligence, can you say what you achieved at GCSE?
5 As, 3Bs and a D.
But I also have an HND and Degree in Aerospace Eng. A lot of people join with just A-levels and no degree.
Fast Jet Performance Ok thank you very much!
Shame on anybody doing business with apartheid Israel btw. Eventually you're going to have to cut ties with them. Start prepping now imho.