I REALLY hope they don’t move to live service. I know the argument is that it could be “purely cosmetic” but I feel like the cosmetics are so integral to splatoon as a series, and paywalling the best ones would kind of kill the series for me.
Imo cosmetics used to be integral part of every videogame, but game publishers got so greedy that they turned every multiplayer game into f2p model with barely any content.
I agree. I much rather pay money for tons DLC for a game I actually enjoy despite having a large content drought except having a shit ton monetization live service game.
If we were to get a live service Splatoon, I don’t want it to be Splatoon 4. We should at least have an option between the two. Except that would probably be hell upon development having to make 2 separate versions of the same game solely to justify separate monetization.
Players really just straight up saying "Yes I paid full AAA price for this game, please let me give you more money for things that could have easily been added to the game for no additional cost"
Absolutely not we don't need more games being ruined by that trashy game model. Splatoon's monetization is just fine how it is. If they really want to make more money off of us just release more amiibos and DLC.
*Playable Salmonlings! Now only 5,000 Splatvouchers! But with this 3-day sale you can get 50 Splatvouchers and Salmonlings for only $70!* *That’s an $80 value! What a steal!*
Please for the love of cod I do NOT want any monetisation outside of single player DLC. I don’t want a shop to buy even skins in. Just let me pay the 60€ upfront and don’t charge me for shit after. I quite enjoy the idea of paying for a full game that gets updated over skins that I have to pay or gamble for. Live service is a slippery slope that I don’t want them to go down
especially since knowing nintendo, splatoon 5 will not carry anything over from 4 and resell the same cosmetics again like they did with virtual console and ports from wiiu
I really don't want splatoon to go the monetized live services route, the catalogs already almost burned me out completely for amount of months we had new ones.
Yeah I want them to go back to the Splatoon 1-2 model of ship updates when they are ready. The artificial seasons/grindy bp takes some enjoyment out of the game
Oh yeah, the fact that it's not a monetized live service is part of why I love and stick with Splatoon, even if I'm a little disappointed A bit of wasted potential is better than guaranteed to be unplayable for a financially wise person
@@willwunsche6940Yeah i h8 bps tbh, but the problem isnt the bp in and of itself its actreually the fomo, look at Deep Rock Galactreic, no fomo at all, no rush in complretreing the contrent, just take it at ur own pace without the frear of loshreing it all forever. 💪💪💪
Adding microtransactions would honestly be the worst possible thing they could do with this game. Not only are microtransactions just horrible in general, but customization is also a HUGE factor of what makes Splatoon so unique. Locking one of the most integral parts to this series' identity behind a paywall would fucking suck
If they made it so you can buy skins with the in-game gold then that's an actually good idea since I guarantee you have an abundance of gold right now.
Microtransactions would be an instant-dropping the game for me. I can't believe anyone would seriously suggest that it would be totally cool to have even just customization options as paid microtransactions when the entire series pushes customization for self expression so hard. It would be the death of the style of Splatoon. It would be Amiibo bullcrap as standard but you dont even get a little figurine for your money.
One thing you didnt really mention during the live service section is that amiibos kinda work as paid cosmetics. We see that they consistently spread them out during the lifespan, and that they are more expensive than other cosmetic options in most games, so i dont think they really need to do much more with that
Amiibos also give you an actual physical figurine that you can use as decoration IRL along with cosmetics in game. They're also really high quality, I got the Callie and Marie Alterna Amiibos and they're very well madr.
One thing about the stage builder that wasn’t mentioned: player-made stages could really breathe some life into the single-player experience. Most of the time, single player content doesn’t really stay in the limelight outside the month or so after release. But giving players the Mario Maker package and the ability to make speedrunning and platforming challenges would be a huge draw for those not super interested in the PvP aspect of the game.
i gotta be honest, the stage builder would have to be super-crazy-drop-dead-awesome to be worth it to people who aren't interested in the "PvP aspect" of Splatoon. it's kinda like saying that Mario Maker should be a draw to people who don't like the "2d platformer" aspect of Mario. that aspect is sorta the core of the game's identity.
Players: give us splatoon 1 mahi and ancho! Nintendo: go build it yourself! Stagebuilder: *insert arbitrary restrictions that prevent complicated platforming setups*
Guys u don’t want splatoon to be a greedy pay to win gacha game with microtransactions that only wants money and doesn't care about the balance off the game and makes people spend $100s off dollars over time. 🚨YOU DONT WANT IT 🚨
Please no, a F2P Splatoon as a Live service model for years of development is why most Western industry is failing. Also we have amiibo as a sort of MXT
Especially after Concord's failure, I really hope Nintendo is scared of doing a true live service game. I fear they are more confident because they know they have a good design formula since that was one of Concord's issues.
Theyre failing because they took the live-service model too far, look at Deep Rock Galactic, thats live-service done right, also Splatoon is technically also a live-service, just not a F2P 1 with tons of MTX.
@@AativeConcord failed for entirely different reasons than being a live-service. It was incredibly bland and generic for 1, and thats without mentioning the bland-ass woke character designs lol.
A stage designer would be THE perfect thing for them to add like one and a half years after the games release to make sure it is good. Community made modes and maps have proven to be insanely good at keeping a game alive without much help from devs
Especially if they do another rougelike like side order, imagine if you could play random levels from hundreds of player made levels, it would make it way less repetitive.
@@MylatoninMMIX didnt play side orders but rogue likes are sooo goated at being replayable and having loyal playerbases. Especially when you get a roguelike from people that still update the game and listen to the players
Saying splatoon would be better as a live service game is probably the worst take I've heard about splatoon, and that's saying a *LOT*. It's emblematic of the notion that games need to keep having 'more' and 'new' and be these infinite content machines. Let games be done, it's not a 'content drought', it's called a game being finished. Suggesting microtransactions for a game that already costs full AAA price only serves to entice addiction and generate FOMO to keep people hooked, and that's not hyperbole, that's factual, there have been dozens of studies dedicated to it, heck, watch and James Stephanie Sterling video on the games industry, they've been saying the same thing since *BEFORE* the 'live service' model became the cash cow to beat money out of. It's fun to theory craft, but some ideas are just straight up harmful.
Missiles and Wail are fine, cooler if anything needs to be taken out, a special like that is gonna be a staple no matter what because of how much of a disadvantage your team is at if you don't have it and the enemy do.
I swear to god, I don't want splat4 to have micro transactions, it would probably stink and even if not, I just like the fact that players can have a really common experience in terms of customisation. Sometimes I play with my little nephew and I'd rather not imagine him begging for his parents' credit card bc he wants extra eyebrow options lmao
Live service splatoon would be the worst thing ever. It’s one of the last popular multiplayer-focused videogames with no microtransactions and predatory practices (besides amiibo and catalog). I’d rather buy a new game and a dlc every 5 or so years that’s fully complete product. Also I would like a bigger 8v8 to play casually with less team coordination needed.
If the s4 maps have good flanks, I'd love to see a capture the flag type gamemode that's like the reverse of rainmaker, you're trying to get into the enemy base and then take something to mid. Probably not just one 'flag' though, somewhere between clams and rain, maybe you pick up one of four sprinklers of doom so you have some passive paint around you but you have rainmaker speed and are easily visible, but you still have your main and sub weapon. I also think it could give an interesting dynamic where if you die with it or it stays on the ground for like 5 seconds it resets, but you can throw it to teammates so there's a sorta soccer-like 'passing' system. There could even be a penalty for attempting to get a flag to mid without succeeding, like you get a 5 point handicap every time and then you score 10 points each time you get one to mid or something
I like the idea of more game modes that allow multiple teams to score points/contribute to the objective simultaneously. (Especially if there were more than 2 teams)! I had a similar idea of reworking rainmaker where each team gets their own version of the rainmaker in spawn that only they can pick up. The goal is still to carry it to the enemy base, (though probably not as far in to compensate for extra distance). Like usual, these rainmakers regenerate with a shield if the holder is defeated. Anyone can go for the pop, but only players of the team that previously possessed it can actually re-grab it. That means camping the rainmaker no longer ruins the game, since it'll just reset back on the attacker's side after some time. I think this would play like the opposite of your idea, which sounds cool from a gameplay standpoint!
problem with CTF is that it encourages an overly defensive gameplay. TF2's CTF mode has this exact problem and both games are pretty similar in term of movement speed and mechanics, so eh
Splatoon 4 should have a causal and ranked mode instead of turf and ranked. This way casuals can play the ranked modes without fear of losing rank, and rank could become a more serious kind of matchmaking system. Also NEW MODE PLEASEEEEEEEE
@@aqua2k210 yeah you lose 5 points in s+ and gain 8 for winning. compared to losing 180 and winning over 300 points. open has practically zero effect on rank
For me the main argument against going the live service route is that it's actually a much more risky strategy than most people seem to be assuming, especially now since the market is so saturated. There have been *a lot* of live service games that have failed or are in the process of failing. Anthem, Suicide Squad, Marvel's Avengers, Foanstars, Babylon's Fall, Exoprimal and dozens of other ones most of us have never even heard of. Live service is basically a gamble that if a developer creates a large enough library of content (which is all a fixed cost to them) then they can attract enough of an audience (and specifically enough players willing to pay for stuff) that it at least covers their costs. And a lot of the time it doesn't. I mean even Destiny, which was really successful for a long time, has had multiple large rounds of layoffs recently. Which leads to another thing. There have been a ton of layoffs in the games industry in the past two years or so. While Nintendo hasn't had been completely immune (they did lay off a number of games testers earlier this year), they haven't had anything like the blood bath we've seen from other studios and publishers. I kind of think that this is at least partially due to the fact that instead of making big bets with the hope of getting as large an audience as possible, they mostly have focused on making really good games and selling them the traditional way. And it's worth noting that this model is probably healthier for the devs themselves. I know it sucks for Splatoon and Animal Crossing fans but the people working on these games are almost certainly better off being able to switch between a different series in a completely separate genre every few years (also real talk, if Nintendo was going to pursue live service then Animal Crossing would be a much better candidate than Splatoon).
Instead of a live service model I'd want a "demo" version where you can play the first level and play a select few weapons in some multiplayer matches, or like a 3 day tryout
It would be sick if the plaza was filled with actual players instead of bots that are just standing there. Plants vs Zombies BFN had something like that.
As an Overwatch 1-2 player. Frequent format changed have left me traumatized. I want to stay 4v4 vanilla for the time being where everyone is already happy. A Halo Forge map creator style mode and sharer would be amazing though
I'm hoping for a HEAVY focus on movement for the next Splatoon! Maps with lotsa moving parts, verticality, fun jumps, FLANKS! I actually think that Codename Spiral may be an ARMS 2, but "Spiral" does also fit a movement-based Splatoon... Also more deepsea creatures Octo Expansion was awesome I wanna see some marine worms :)
Imo, TableTurf needs the biggest amount of new content. I’d like a catalog-like thing for TableTurf. It doesn’t change per season, but it’s always the same. After you reach a certain level in TableTurf, it takes an insane amount of XP to level up. So, add a separate meter that always costs the same amount of points, let’s say 500. You get rewards for this to help you level up with the 'standard' levels. The rewards you get from this are things like cards you’re missing, those card bits that’s low you to shoes which card you get, and other stuff like cash.
The main thing Tableturf needs is matchmaking, so that you don't have to go out of your way to find people to play with. I'd definitely play the mode a lot more (or at least a bit more) if there was a matchmaking queue for it.
I think 5v5 would be cool, but I also think it would be nice if they kept the standard 4v4 mode as well for people who might not like the bigger teams of 5v5.
One issue I have with the 5v5 idea for Splatoon is that the game is currently balanced for a 4v4. I feel like many weapons would need to have some adjustments if 5v5 was to happen.
I like the idea of combining some weapons, maybe you can makena video on what weapons you would combine and what you would change when we get into Splatoon 4
If they do make a stage builder they should make a toggle on whether the map is symmetrical or not. That way we can have traditional and old-style maps that are easier to balance and make since you only have one side to design while the level design pros can be more experimental. We can also have an option for horizontal symmetry but how the game can handle stitching stages together with the inevitability limited processing power is going to be a unique scenario.
Personally wouldn't want 5v5. I think the problems with maps and specials could easily be solved without it by including less/better designed defensive specials and making maps more like Splatoon 1. As a hardcore Masters Overwatch player I know how incredibly brutal and divisive format shifts can be on a community and how many things they require changing. It basically makes the game play like a whole different subgenre that feels very different. I have loved how Splatoon has felt/played since the first testfire in Splatoon 1 and I don't want to lose that
One thing I really want them to include, and even implement in prior games is an offline player vs CPU version, where players can choose the mode, map, and difficulty of the CPU characters. There's some maps from 2 I sorely miss, and since no one really plays 2 anymore, those days of playing on the reef for example aren't coming back. Then sometimes when I come back from work and have a little bit of time to myself it's really frustrating when the current maps on rotation in 3 are ones I'm not keen on and I have to either play on it and not having the best of time or just pray the next time I have a bit of spare time it's maps I enjoy. If it had offline play I could return to the maps of 2 I miss, and if 3's current rotation were ones I weren't keen on I can just select whichever map I'd prefer.
if splatoon 4 contains microtransaction i wont be playing it out of spite (still buyin for the songleplayer though) but the actual FOMO when linked to actual monetary value would be insane
One thing i would add is different modes for salmon run. Not like the special waves but like an endless mode where you see how long you can go and etc. Another thing would be multiplayer versus salmon run. Both teams (of two or three) compete to get more eggs than the other team and can steal eggs from eachother and stuff
I think a stage builder would help a ton with keeping the game active for longer, especially if they did something like making you have to unlock certain stage elements, like gushers or propeller platforms, from playing online. A stage builder would also go along with the sort of “self-expression” sort of thing the series has
watching videos like yours and bipedal squids about stage design really made me think about what makes a stage work, why i like the stages i like, etc. and i find myself doodling and coming up with reworks/new stage ideas a lot and i think a stage builder would be INSANE.
Dude if they added a Stage Builder then there's the possibility that if the creators of those stages allowed it, The devs could reach out to have them be official stages or have them be featured in tournaments! It also lifts alot of pressure off the devs for designing every map themselves! Mabye each update could be 1-2 maps made by devs and a third that was made in stage builder but obviously the devs sould review it and make slight changes where needed as long as they're not to drastic.
the idea of being able to freely switch subs a specails has stuck in my mind since you talked about it when splatoon 3 came out. still think it sounds cool.
Something like being able to swap to another weapon when respawning would eb super cool. And if it's restricted such that every player just has, say, 2 weapons to swap between during the match, it wouldn't be that much more for players to keep track of. (Like, you'd want to know what secondary weapons the enemy has.) Or it could just be relegated to a certain special mode.
Since others are talking about the problems with live service (even 'done well', it's still targeting vulnerable people in pretty exploitative ways would be my brief addition to that), I'm going to instead talk about the Stage builder idea - It's a cool idea but would require the pool system to be better integrated to really work and has a danger of driving people away from the matchmaking system. Stage builders in shooters used to be a thing (Though typically not fully integrated into the game, more 'the devs would give you a map editor tool external to the game'), but I don't think have been one more recently (I think the shift was when matchmaking became the standard rather than "Here's a list of rooms would you like to join one or create one" being how people found casual matches), in more recent years it's games with heavy emphasis on local multiplayer and single player that have typically gone the stage builder route. And I'm pretty neutral on the rest.
I have to give a hard disagree to the microtransactions. As someone who came from Fortnite, I tried to get into other shooters when I was done with it. I just got sick of microtransactions and the community they seem to build with them. Splatoon 3 felt way less toxic of a community, and I think part of that is that there's no microtransactions. Just a $60 game + $25 DLC + $19.99 online service for each of the two years. That's way less than I spent during 6 months of playing Fortnite. Also, when Splatoon 5 inevitably rolls around, are we supposed to say goodbye to all our paid content? A new game, let's it be a soft overhaul of the previous game. New weapon classes, new idols, new main weapons, new story modes, and new specials. I'd rather just have my favorite parts exist in a previous game than just get taken out or vaulted.
- the 2v2v2v2 is my dream - Something I saw that I thought was interesting that would change the gear system a bit and would continue the story is to transform the abilities system to use the Palette and the chips, basically each gear would come with a set of chips that you could put in the palette instead of small slots, this would give more gameplay variety. - About weapons Redundance, I like the existence of this, especially in weapons of different classes, because this way players can try out new classes while still doing what they used to do, which improves team tactics.
I would really want a dual mode. But not a dual mode who is just "normal game but only with smaller map" but a real mode. And by that i mean a "octo expansion agent 3 fight" mode. You would get 4 or 5 armor, and also only a few limited weapon, with no special.
Stage builder is something I would really like to see, because the maps (both multiplayer and singleplayer) mostly feel like they could be done with a grid-based editor, and there aren't too many crazy things they should reasonably give players to tinker with. To be fair it would be the first big Nintendo's official 3D editor and that's a big ask. Will it be too limited? As they are Nintendo they would have to make it relatively easy to use, which is tough for a 3D editor. The reason I like the idea is because I find splatoon editor to be more likely to happen than a satisfying 3D mario editor.
I will say I am really against 5v5. It would definitely hurt the chaotic, fast paced nature of the game, making kills matter less, which would further encourage sitting back and farming specials.
I know this is probably wishful thinking but considering Team Order got a dlc when it lost, does that mean Splatoon 4 might have 2 dlcs for whichever 2 teams lose? Just a thought.
The issue with paid cosmetics is either they’re *very significant* and it hinders free player’s ability to express themselves on the same level or they’re *very insignificant* and people don’t really care. Thus, there is no way to have non-intrusive microtransactions and make a significant profit to offset developing new content. I know a lot of other people commented on this but I thought I’d throw my hat in the ring.
Idea for the 5v5!!! A new Ranked mode/challenge. We’re overdue for one anyways, so what better way to test it? My idea for it would be an Elimination game of sorts, doing a “Best of 5” with no respawns (until the round ends) with built in Rounds. In other words, you can’t respawn until a team wipes out. These “rounds” would likely be a minute long, with time-outs going to the team with the most Kills.
I think splatoon 4 really needs some sort of split screen co-op mode. I know it seems random, but if Nintendo could market it as 'fun for the whole family' in the way they do Mariokart/Party and Smash Bros, it could start raking in the big bucks.
A split-screen mode would be great. And co-op would definitely be the best way to go about it, since crucial mechanics such as stealth just wouldn't work in splitscreen PvP due to screenpeaking. Being able to play four player local multiplayer Salmon Run would be absolutely sick. In a similar vein, something like pass-and-play Tableturf would also be neat.
Yknow what would be cool? The saxton hale mode from tf2 into splatoon. It would be like a 1 vs. 10 (more or less players), but the one person has things like increased speed, more health, etc. Or it could be a person playing as a boss from the storymode or dlc.
I think it’d be neat if splatoon 3 was a free download initially, with a single player demo (and potential free trial but that’s wishful thinking lol) and you’d just purchase if you want an online pass, singleplayer, or both. Some people may not like how dlcs and stuff have to be purchased with the game, would like a sampler of how splatoon is played without committing themselves to online play, or jue the want to play online and maybe releasing the game like that would work well.
Idea: dual weapon system. By consuming a full ink tank and proceding through a immobile animation you can swap between your main and another pre chosen weapon mid battle. Would this be horrible for balance? Absolutely. Would this be fun? Yes. The left and right dpad arent doing anything anyway
I think it would be best if the option to switch weapons was done on respawn. Players being able to switch weapons mid-fight may feel pretty off, though I suppose adding lag to it like you suggest could make it workable. But, for example, if I backline spots you quick enough, they'll probably be able to switch weapons in time to deal with you, reducing the close-range weakness of said backline.
@@freuner-merris yeah that's why I thought it would be a funny balancing nightmare. Rush down an e liter that is saving it's shots and by the time you reach it it's a carbon that's running back at you.
I most want a stage builder, as it can often be integral for a game’s lifespan. An INSANELY good example of the is Geometry Dash, as it survived 7 YEARS with NO new content at all, purely because the community had access to the level editor. If it didn’t exist, GD would not be alive today.
I think a custom game modes system for private battles could be interesting. This would let players tweak numeric variables in the existing game modes. You could make the tower move faster, change the number of clams needed for a power clam, or adjust special advantage. You could also enable challenge effects, and tweak core things like player health and respawns timers. It’d be great for casual silliness and let competitive players tune the game a little bit to their liking.
Personally would love a 4 team mode like you said that would be fun. Also a map editor. Not personally into the other ideas, would actually like more weapon redundancy with dual squelcher from Splatoon 1 being re-added, but for the rest I would rather them make new unique stuff. A lot of people have weapons they like and it would be sad to see them disappear/get merged like Luna.
I gotta talk about this every time someone brings up $40 diddykong. That bundle was for what was about $100 worth of rubies for the price of $40. Diddy kong was a BONUS that you got to try and sweeten the deal that pack was for rubies, not for diddy kong
I think it would be cool to have a new casual mode, something like the challenges, but more casual focused and more chaotic. Random mutators on players, weapons, and maps would be pretty fun if it was a permanent mode for casual players who just wanna see some funny, crazy stuff happen. The map builder would also be pretty cool. Maybe we’ll have something like the course world from Super Mario Maker where we can browse maps and play on them. There could be a mode for featured and popular maps to appear in public lobbies. I’m hoping it just doesn’t completely replace the Nintendo-made maps.
This would probably be a limited format, but I would love a FFA, Wake (Quake) Arena mode. You spawn in with something like a Splattershot and Splat Bombs but no special; but you can pick up other, limited use mains, subs and specials across the map. Lore-wise it could be an extension of Salmon Run, where the ascendant Salmonoids have begun kidnapping Inklings and Octolings to fight for their amusement as retribution. This would also just justify making everyone the same ink color. Also, there are no gear abilities because everyone is in Mad Max versions of Grizzco slopsuits.
Ideas: 1. Male Idols(Inklings or Octolings) I had thought of a 4 character boy idol team, this could also make some interesting splatfests too, some ideas could be Splatfest 1: Four Seasons(Summer, Winter, Spring, Fall) Splatfest 2: Card symbols(Diamond, Spade, Heart, Clover) Splatfest 3: Elements(Earth, Fire, Wind, Water) Splatfest 4: Mathematics???(Addition, Subtraction, Multiplication, Division) Splatfest 5: Sports(Soccer, Baseball, Basketball, Football) Splatfest 6: Colors(Red, Blue, Yellow, Green) Splatfest 7: Emotions(Happy, Sad, Anger, Fear) I know some of these aren't perfect but it's ideas 2. Crossover gear, imagine having marios cap as an equip able hat, or using bowser Jr's ink brush as it's own weapon, or Links tunic as a "shirt" and uh...Yoshi's equip able shoes? 3. Following up #2 I think bowser Jr's inkbrush would be an interesting weapon, I figured it's "special" ability could be "sabotage" where you use the brush to cover the enemy opponents screen partially in your ink color to hinder their vision to a degree for a few seconds, could be used to gain an advantage and it doesn't feel too overwhelmingly broken(that I think) with the sub weapon being able to make weak polluted piranhas that spray ink of your color to nearby enemies when they get close, it's relatively weak and can die pretty easily but it's like a little turret 4. New stats for gear 1. Jump Height(Allows player to jump higher, naturally...applies to kid form and squid form, may help jumping over a few obstacles, or whatnot...not the most useful I'll admit) 2. Second Wind(Exclusive to the shirt gear, allows the player a one time use per match ability to respawn in the same location as where they were previously splatted, it's only one time use per GAME so use it only when you believe it would benefit the team and don't waste it) 3. Sneaky Special(Exclusive to the hat, hides whenever an enemy uses a special attack, so it doesn't reveal to the enemy that you're using it) 4. Saving grace(Exclusive to the shoes, when inkling has taken 50% of their health in damage, increases swim speed, increases defense up, increases run speed, hopefully so they can make a quick getaway to avoid being splatted)
I know it’s not likely to happen with grandfest implications, but I would love to see S4 be a tropical themed game. Every good Nintendo franchise has a tropical entry (Mario, Zelda, animal crossing, etc)
Honestly a stage builder would go so unreasonably hard, especially if you could play them with other people,,, I feel like it'd be pretty likely that they'd aim for a similar aesthetic to Shift Stations, and that'd be really interesting. On a related note; I feel like a single player stage editor is almost more likely? They could do something similar to Link's Awakening DX where you can unlock and mix together different "rooms" or parts or smthn.
I want a new change in the lobby area were the dummies and the lockers are at and would be better if they replace the dummies with NPC that can act like a player similar to the rival octolings and you can change them on what weapon, sub, special and skill percentage to test your skills, I know they did that would the robot thing in the left area but it can't move around, aim at you and switch weapons, subs and special to really test your skills
I want giant salmon run. If whatever switch sequel Nintendo is cooking up has enough processing power, I want 8 player salmon run with big stages. It would be pure chaos and absolutely amazing.
Having more players in Salmon Run would be easier to balance than PvP, definitely. Would be really cool to see that many players all working together on a larger map.
If you want a model for a bigger team mode take a look at big battles in halo(the good ones) Larger teams on larger maps with a size that could even allow for having 2 main weapons available. Meanwhile on the salmon run side I'd honestly love a mode that straight up rips like helldivers or deep rock galactic design: go in, fight to the objective, grab stuff on the way out, and then run for it! A small change aswell is it'd be nice to have players show up in the backgrounds of stages as an audience for the matches.
I love Deep Rock, and hope that Salmon Run (or whatever replacement mode if they change things up) in the next game uses some ideas from it. Escape sequences for instance: having to quickly make it back to an escape pod or something would feel really cool with Splatoon's movement mechanics. Rock and stone!
Its important to note that this will be the first time the franchise will ever experience any really significant difference in how powerful the hardware is, in almost 10 years. The Switch isn’t all that much more powerful than the Wii U.
I just hope they give us more customization options with the characters like a lot more hairstyles we could change our face smile, eye shape, ears along with newer clothing, maybe even like weapon scans are colorization of our weapons or even just new game modes etc
Okay hi everyone I just clicked on the video but I saw the stage builder in the thumbnail and I have to say it was my BIGGEST hope for Splatoon 3 post side order. I kinda saw it as marina came back and you could play as her and make custom shifty stations that you could use in pbs
i hope splatoon 4 is actually substantially different enough from old splatoon to not just replace it. have this era of splatoon be the original gameplay style different enough from 4 to warrant a port of of 3 to the switch 2
1:46 I just realized how fast Splatoon 3 is. I mean, we talk about it as a community but yeah. It's pretty fast pace with so many things happening at the same time
I REALLY hope they don’t move to live service. I know the argument is that it could be “purely cosmetic” but I feel like the cosmetics are so integral to splatoon as a series, and paywalling the best ones would kind of kill the series for me.
Imo cosmetics used to be integral part of every videogame, but game publishers got so greedy that they turned every multiplayer game into f2p model with barely any content.
I agree. I much rather pay money for tons DLC for a game I actually enjoy despite having a large content drought except having a shit ton monetization live service game.
it would suck if splatoon paywalled cosmetics something theyve never done before
(Okay well amibos also give you a physical figurine but still)
If we were to get a live service Splatoon, I don’t want it to be Splatoon 4. We should at least have an option between the two.
Except that would probably be hell upon development having to make 2 separate versions of the same game solely to justify separate monetization.
@@Watburnt and you can roleplay your Pearlina fantasies with said amiibos
Plz no microtransactions 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Players really just straight up saying "Yes I paid full AAA price for this game, please let me give you more money for things that could have easily been added to the game for no additional cost"
I agree.
@@johndelanie3649 ye That’s the problem like fr you lilterally paid the game and now u have to pay for cosmetics and stuff 🥲
Absolutely not we don't need more games being ruined by that trashy game model. Splatoon's monetization is just fine how it is. If they really want to make more money off of us just release more amiibos and DLC.
*Playable Salmonlings! Now only 5,000 Splatvouchers! But with this 3-day sale you can get 50 Splatvouchers and Salmonlings for only $70!*
*That’s an $80 value! What a steal!*
Please for the love of cod I do NOT want any monetisation outside of single player DLC. I don’t want a shop to buy even skins in. Just let me pay the 60€ upfront and don’t charge me for shit after. I quite enjoy the idea of paying for a full game that gets updated over skins that I have to pay or gamble for. Live service is a slippery slope that I don’t want them to go down
Its already a live-service, just not a F2P 1, Deep Rock Galactic is Live-Service done right, no fomo at all with its bps. 💪
especially since knowing nintendo, splatoon 5 will not carry anything over from 4 and resell the same cosmetics again like they did with virtual console and ports from wiiu
@@Diddz Wdym with resell the same cosmetics like virtual console and the ports from the Wii U? 🤔
I really don't want splatoon to go the monetized live services route, the catalogs already almost burned me out completely for amount of months we had new ones.
I completely agree. If they go the microtransaction route I'll have to say goodbye to Splatoon
Yeah I want them to go back to the Splatoon 1-2 model of ship updates when they are ready. The artificial seasons/grindy bp takes some enjoyment out of the game
Oh yeah, the fact that it's not a monetized live service is part of why I love and stick with Splatoon, even if I'm a little disappointed
A bit of wasted potential is better than guaranteed to be unplayable for a financially wise person
@@willwunsche6940Yeah i h8 bps tbh, but the problem isnt the bp in and of itself its actreually the fomo, look at Deep Rock Galactreic, no fomo at all, no rush in complretreing the contrent, just take it at ur own pace without the frear of loshreing it all forever. 💪💪💪
2:34 Octa is NOT cooking with that take. Microtransactions are killing modern games rn. Keep them out of Splatoon, seriously.
Adding microtransactions would honestly be the worst possible thing they could do with this game.
Not only are microtransactions just horrible in general, but customization is also a HUGE factor of what makes Splatoon so unique. Locking one of the most integral parts to this series' identity behind a paywall would fucking suck
Yeah I heavily disagree with Chara here omg it's some gal named eve. I think live service would screw over Splatoon lmao
If they made it so you can buy skins with the in-game gold then that's an actually good idea since I guarantee you have an abundance of gold right now.
Microtransactions would be an instant-dropping the game for me. I can't believe anyone would seriously suggest that it would be totally cool to have even just customization options as paid microtransactions when the entire series pushes customization for self expression so hard. It would be the death of the style of Splatoon. It would be Amiibo bullcrap as standard but you dont even get a little figurine for your money.
Yeah i already dishreilikre amiibo gear ashre it ish lol.
Also Pfp (Profile Picture) and / or Banner Sauce (Source [Artist])? 🗿
@@SimoneBellomontewhat happened when you tried to type dislike?
@@Naito9874 ocd
One thing you didnt really mention during the live service section is that amiibos kinda work as paid cosmetics. We see that they consistently spread them out during the lifespan, and that they are more expensive than other cosmetic options in most games, so i dont think they really need to do much more with that
True
Amiibos also give you an actual physical figurine that you can use as decoration IRL along with cosmetics in game. They're also really high quality, I got the Callie and Marie Alterna Amiibos and they're very well madr.
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@@radiofrequency5801 mabey the game its self could market them more
Amiibos also make them a shit ton of money
One thing about the stage builder that wasn’t mentioned: player-made stages could really breathe some life into the single-player experience. Most of the time, single player content doesn’t really stay in the limelight outside the month or so after release. But giving players the Mario Maker package and the ability to make speedrunning and platforming challenges would be a huge draw for those not super interested in the PvP aspect of the game.
if this was in the game, it would probably be that marina canonically helps you build stages and stuff since she has experience with it
@@TheDreadedAstelle I got the idea of a stage builder myself from that same dialogue lol
i gotta be honest, the stage builder would have to be super-crazy-drop-dead-awesome to be worth it to people who aren't interested in the "PvP aspect" of Splatoon. it's kinda like saying that Mario Maker should be a draw to people who don't like the "2d platformer" aspect of Mario. that aspect is sorta the core of the game's identity.
@@durdleduc8520 …I think you kinda missed the part where I was talking about a stage builder for *_single player_* levels.
Players: give us splatoon 1 mahi and ancho!
Nintendo: go build it yourself!
Stagebuilder: *insert arbitrary restrictions that prevent complicated platforming setups*
Guys u don’t want splatoon to be a greedy pay to win gacha game with microtransactions that only wants money and doesn't care about the balance off the game and makes people spend $100s off dollars over time.
🚨YOU DONT WANT IT 🚨
I don't think anyone wants that.
Micro transactions are a slippery slope. The assumption is that Nintendo has good traction.
Fr that's why I like splatoon the continuity that's offered for free, if you want paywall skins buy ammibos
no microtransactions, PERIOD
Please no, a F2P Splatoon as a Live service model for years of development is why most Western industry is failing.
Also we have amiibo as a sort of MXT
Especially after Concord's failure, I really hope Nintendo is scared of doing a true live service game. I fear they are more confident because they know they have a good design formula since that was one of Concord's issues.
I agree, Amiibo are as far as I want that to go.
Theyre failing because they took the live-service model too far, look at Deep Rock Galactic, thats live-service done right, also Splatoon is technically also a live-service, just not a F2P 1 with tons of MTX.
@@AativeConcord failed for entirely different reasons than being a live-service.
It was incredibly bland and generic for 1, and thats without mentioning the bland-ass woke character designs lol.
Failing? Fortnite has been alive and well on the f2p model for 7 years now, clearly something's being done right
Live service model is a terrible idea rn considering how many others are failing rn.
no microtransactions is one of the things i love the most about splatoon. please no microtransactions
A stage designer would be THE perfect thing for them to add like one and a half years after the games release to make sure it is good. Community made modes and maps have proven to be insanely good at keeping a game alive without much help from devs
Especially if they do another rougelike like side order, imagine if you could play random levels from hundreds of player made levels, it would make it way less repetitive.
@@MylatoninMMIXlike mario maker 100 marios challenge? That would be cool
@@MylatoninMMIX didnt play side orders but rogue likes are sooo goated at being replayable and having loyal playerbases. Especially when you get a roguelike from people that still update the game and listen to the players
No fucking way there's people who WANT micro-transactions. That is awful.
Saying splatoon would be better as a live service game is probably the worst take I've heard about splatoon, and that's saying a *LOT*. It's emblematic of the notion that games need to keep having 'more' and 'new' and be these infinite content machines. Let games be done, it's not a 'content drought', it's called a game being finished. Suggesting microtransactions for a game that already costs full AAA price only serves to entice addiction and generate FOMO to keep people hooked, and that's not hyperbole, that's factual, there have been dozens of studies dedicated to it, heck, watch and James Stephanie Sterling video on the games industry, they've been saying the same thing since *BEFORE* the 'live service' model became the cash cow to beat money out of. It's fun to theory craft, but some ideas are just straight up harmful.
EXACTLY
Maybe they can also fix my bad teammates
it all depends on what game mode you play and the time you play but i guess that’s true lol 😅
i think you're having a skill issue and projecting your lack of skill on other ppl
TRUUUUEE
@@Psycho0NoobI love winning a 2v1 only to die to someone else because the rest of my team is dead
maybe they can fix you by colplay
Top 5 changes for Splatoon 4:
1. Maps have flanks now
2 through 5. Missiles and Wail were killed in a back alley and are no longer in the game,
Where’s 3,4? 1,2,5?? (Iykyk)
3. Snipewriter is a 1 shot
Missiles and Wail are fine, cooler if anything needs to be taken out, a special like that is gonna be a staple no matter what because of how much of a disadvantage your team is at if you don't have it and the enemy do.
second
@@chinook3.0 2 *THROUGH* 5, not 2 and 5
I swear to god, I don't want splat4 to have micro transactions, it would probably stink and even if not, I just like the fact that players can have a really common experience in terms of customisation. Sometimes I play with my little nephew and I'd rather not imagine him begging for his parents' credit card bc he wants extra eyebrow options lmao
Live service splatoon would be the worst thing ever. It’s one of the last popular multiplayer-focused videogames with no microtransactions and predatory practices (besides amiibo and catalog). I’d rather buy a new game and a dlc every 5 or so years that’s fully complete product. Also I would like a bigger 8v8 to play casually with less team coordination needed.
Catalog isnt even predatory, i saw triple deck specs in the shop yesterday.
If the s4 maps have good flanks, I'd love to see a capture the flag type gamemode that's like the reverse of rainmaker, you're trying to get into the enemy base and then take something to mid. Probably not just one 'flag' though, somewhere between clams and rain, maybe you pick up one of four sprinklers of doom so you have some passive paint around you but you have rainmaker speed and are easily visible, but you still have your main and sub weapon.
I also think it could give an interesting dynamic where if you die with it or it stays on the ground for like 5 seconds it resets, but you can throw it to teammates so there's a sorta soccer-like 'passing' system. There could even be a penalty for attempting to get a flag to mid without succeeding, like you get a 5 point handicap every time and then you score 10 points each time you get one to mid or something
I like the idea of more game modes that allow multiple teams to score points/contribute to the objective simultaneously. (Especially if there were more than 2 teams)! I had a similar idea of reworking rainmaker where each team gets their own version of the rainmaker in spawn that only they can pick up. The goal is still to carry it to the enemy base, (though probably not as far in to compensate for extra distance).
Like usual, these rainmakers regenerate with a shield if the holder is defeated. Anyone can go for the pop, but only players of the team that previously possessed it can actually re-grab it. That means camping the rainmaker no longer ruins the game, since it'll just reset back on the attacker's side after some time. I think this would play like the opposite of your idea, which sounds cool from a gameplay standpoint!
problem with CTF is that it encourages an overly defensive gameplay. TF2's CTF mode has this exact problem and both games are pretty similar in term of movement speed and mechanics, so eh
Splatoon 4 should have a causal and ranked mode instead of turf and ranked.
This way casuals can play the ranked modes without fear of losing rank, and rank could become a more serious kind of matchmaking system.
Also NEW MODE PLEASEEEEEEEE
I mean s3 already has that with series and open
You lose 4-5 points in open bruh.
@@aqua2k210 yeah you lose 5 points in s+ and gain 8 for winning.
compared to losing 180 and winning over 300 points. open has practically zero effect on rank
Isn't open already a thing
Guys im just sayin😅
Glad to hear others thoughts tho
as a stage designer (who’s all over the splatoon subreddit with maps), a stage builder would be peak
@@joshwash2 are you the one who made a IKEA-like map ?
@@baguettes2438 yeah
Microtransactions? IN MY 60$ GAME??? WTF WAS THAT GUY THINKING 😭
Bro, amiibos already fill this role tho.
I think he means the game should be free to download and play, and in order for them to make a profit still they add in microtransactions instead
For me the main argument against going the live service route is that it's actually a much more risky strategy than most people seem to be assuming, especially now since the market is so saturated. There have been *a lot* of live service games that have failed or are in the process of failing. Anthem, Suicide Squad, Marvel's Avengers, Foanstars, Babylon's Fall, Exoprimal and dozens of other ones most of us have never even heard of. Live service is basically a gamble that if a developer creates a large enough library of content (which is all a fixed cost to them) then they can attract enough of an audience (and specifically enough players willing to pay for stuff) that it at least covers their costs. And a lot of the time it doesn't. I mean even Destiny, which was really successful for a long time, has had multiple large rounds of layoffs recently.
Which leads to another thing. There have been a ton of layoffs in the games industry in the past two years or so. While Nintendo hasn't had been completely immune (they did lay off a number of games testers earlier this year), they haven't had anything like the blood bath we've seen from other studios and publishers. I kind of think that this is at least partially due to the fact that instead of making big bets with the hope of getting as large an audience as possible, they mostly have focused on making really good games and selling them the traditional way. And it's worth noting that this model is probably healthier for the devs themselves. I know it sucks for Splatoon and Animal Crossing fans but the people working on these games are almost certainly better off being able to switch between a different series in a completely separate genre every few years (also real talk, if Nintendo was going to pursue live service then Animal Crossing would be a much better candidate than Splatoon).
Stage builder would fvcking slay, but we all know everyone I'd just gonna make moai filled maps
Instead of a live service model I'd want a "demo" version where you can play the first level and play a select few weapons in some multiplayer matches, or like a 3 day tryout
Yeah, like those Splatoon 2 demos. Make it permanent and lock it to a single console so people can’t play it forever by making new accounts.
I highly prefer the amount of content we have rather than live-service it's a really bad idea
I kinda want a game mode were you can just relax hang out with friends or randos and maybe play some minigames
It would be sick if the plaza was filled with actual players instead of bots that are just standing there. Plants vs Zombies BFN had something like that.
That would be so much fun, since all my splatfriends live far away ;u;
As an Overwatch 1-2 player. Frequent format changed have left me traumatized. I want to stay 4v4 vanilla for the time being where everyone is already happy. A Halo Forge map creator style mode and sharer would be amazing though
People defending cosmetic DLC is INSAAAANE. games used to have cosmetics be rewards. Gamers were groomed into being cows
And on one of the only damn games where cosmetics are still in-game rewards, there's people that would rather pay real money for them
I'm hoping for a HEAVY focus on movement for the next Splatoon! Maps with lotsa moving parts, verticality, fun jumps, FLANKS!
I actually think that Codename Spiral may be an ARMS 2, but "Spiral" does also fit a movement-based Splatoon...
Also more deepsea creatures Octo Expansion was awesome I wanna see some marine worms :)
Imo, TableTurf needs the biggest amount of new content.
I’d like a catalog-like thing for TableTurf. It doesn’t change per season, but it’s always the same.
After you reach a certain level in TableTurf, it takes an insane amount of XP to level up. So, add a separate meter that always costs the same amount of points, let’s say 500. You get rewards for this to help you level up with the 'standard' levels.
The rewards you get from this are things like cards you’re missing, those card bits that’s low you to shoes which card you get, and other stuff like cash.
Tableturf needs a reward ladder.
The main thing Tableturf needs is matchmaking, so that you don't have to go out of your way to find people to play with. I'd definitely play the mode a lot more (or at least a bit more) if there was a matchmaking queue for it.
I’ve never thought about a stage builder, but now that you mention it, it would be insanely cool to have one
I think 5v5 would be cool, but I also think it would be nice if they kept the standard 4v4 mode as well for people who might not like the bigger teams of 5v5.
One issue I have with the 5v5 idea for Splatoon is that the game is currently balanced for a 4v4. I feel like many weapons would need to have some adjustments if 5v5 was to happen.
Please let us continue filling out old catalogs once the new season starts its the only correct way to do battlepasses
I like the idea of combining some weapons, maybe you can makena video on what weapons you would combine and what you would change when we get into Splatoon 4
If they do make a stage builder they should make a toggle on whether the map is symmetrical or not. That way we can have traditional and old-style maps that are easier to balance and make since you only have one side to design while the level design pros can be more experimental. We can also have an option for horizontal symmetry but how the game can handle stitching stages together with the inevitability limited processing power is going to be a unique scenario.
Who tf let whoever “octa” is cook💀
Never let bro cook again
please dont speak spaltoon micro transactions into existence your words have power 😭😭😭😭
One small cosmetic change I want is to be able to have different ink tank options, it’d be cool to finally choose what they look like
Please do not make Splatoon live service, I'd hate that so much - I'm so tired of the live service nonsense, just leave it as it is right now
Personally wouldn't want 5v5. I think the problems with maps and specials could easily be solved without it by including less/better designed defensive specials and making maps more like Splatoon 1. As a hardcore Masters Overwatch player I know how incredibly brutal and divisive format shifts can be on a community and how many things they require changing. It basically makes the game play like a whole different subgenre that feels very different. I have loved how Splatoon has felt/played since the first testfire in Splatoon 1 and I don't want to lose that
One thing I really want them to include, and even implement in prior games is an offline player vs CPU version, where players can choose the mode, map, and difficulty of the CPU characters.
There's some maps from 2 I sorely miss, and since no one really plays 2 anymore, those days of playing on the reef for example aren't coming back. Then sometimes when I come back from work and have a little bit of time to myself it's really frustrating when the current maps on rotation in 3 are ones I'm not keen on and I have to either play on it and not having the best of time or just pray the next time I have a bit of spare time it's maps I enjoy.
If it had offline play I could return to the maps of 2 I miss, and if 3's current rotation were ones I weren't keen on I can just select whichever map I'd prefer.
if splatoon 4 contains microtransaction i wont be playing it out of spite (still buyin for the songleplayer though) but the actual FOMO when linked to actual monetary value would be insane
I would just stick to splat 3 and avoid splat 4 outright
One thing i would add is different modes for salmon run. Not like the special waves but like an endless mode where you see how long you can go and etc. Another thing would be multiplayer versus salmon run. Both teams (of two or three) compete to get more eggs than the other team and can steal eggs from eachother and stuff
I think a stage builder would help a ton with keeping the game active for longer, especially if they did something like making you have to unlock certain stage elements, like gushers or propeller platforms, from playing online. A stage builder would also go along with the sort of “self-expression” sort of thing the series has
watching videos like yours and bipedal squids about stage design really made me think about what makes a stage work, why i like the stages i like, etc. and i find myself doodling and coming up with reworks/new stage ideas a lot and i think a stage builder would be INSANE.
Dude if they added a Stage Builder then there's the possibility that if the creators of those stages allowed it, The devs could reach out to have them be official stages or have them be featured in tournaments! It also lifts alot of pressure off the devs for designing every map themselves! Mabye each update could be 1-2 maps made by devs and a third that was made in stage builder but obviously the devs sould review it and make slight changes where needed as long as they're not to drastic.
the idea of being able to freely switch subs a specails has stuck in my mind since you talked about it when splatoon 3 came out. still think it sounds cool.
Something like being able to swap to another weapon when respawning would eb super cool. And if it's restricted such that every player just has, say, 2 weapons to swap between during the match, it wouldn't be that much more for players to keep track of. (Like, you'd want to know what secondary weapons the enemy has.) Or it could just be relegated to a certain special mode.
@@freuner-merris mabey. that sort of thing would be tuff for a normal game but for a new more solo player focued game mode it could be pretty cool
Squid beats return please I must hit more notes
Since others are talking about the problems with live service (even 'done well', it's still targeting vulnerable people in pretty exploitative ways would be my brief addition to that), I'm going to instead talk about the Stage builder idea - It's a cool idea but would require the pool system to be better integrated to really work and has a danger of driving people away from the matchmaking system. Stage builders in shooters used to be a thing (Though typically not fully integrated into the game, more 'the devs would give you a map editor tool external to the game'), but I don't think have been one more recently (I think the shift was when matchmaking became the standard rather than "Here's a list of rooms would you like to join one or create one" being how people found casual matches), in more recent years it's games with heavy emphasis on local multiplayer and single player that have typically gone the stage builder route. And I'm pretty neutral on the rest.
I have to give a hard disagree to the microtransactions. As someone who came from Fortnite, I tried to get into other shooters when I was done with it. I just got sick of microtransactions and the community they seem to build with them. Splatoon 3 felt way less toxic of a community, and I think part of that is that there's no microtransactions. Just a $60 game + $25 DLC + $19.99 online service for each of the two years. That's way less than I spent during 6 months of playing Fortnite. Also, when Splatoon 5 inevitably rolls around, are we supposed to say goodbye to all our paid content? A new game, let's it be a soft overhaul of the previous game. New weapon classes, new idols, new main weapons, new story modes, and new specials. I'd rather just have my favorite parts exist in a previous game than just get taken out or vaulted.
7:16 3V3V3 IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR ALMOST S YEAR 😭
- the 2v2v2v2 is my dream
- Something I saw that I thought was interesting that would change the gear system a bit and would continue the story is to transform the abilities system to use the Palette and the chips, basically each gear would come with a set of chips that you could put in the palette instead of small slots, this would give more gameplay variety.
- About weapons Redundance, I like the existence of this, especially in weapons of different classes, because this way players can try out new classes while still doing what they used to do, which improves team tactics.
I would really want a dual mode. But not a dual mode who is just "normal game but only with smaller map" but a real mode. And by that i mean a "octo expansion agent 3 fight" mode. You would get 4 or 5 armor, and also only a few limited weapon, with no special.
Do you mean *duel
@@threeprongedfork7061 yeah
Live service Splatoon is my worst nightmare.
Stage builder is something I would really like to see, because the maps (both multiplayer and singleplayer) mostly feel like they could be done with a grid-based editor, and there aren't too many crazy things they should reasonably give players to tinker with.
To be fair it would be the first big Nintendo's official 3D editor and that's a big ask. Will it be too limited? As they are Nintendo they would have to make it relatively easy to use, which is tough for a 3D editor. The reason I like the idea is because I find splatoon editor to be more likely to happen than a satisfying 3D mario editor.
I'd like microtransactions in the form of amiibo gear from other games. Like scanning any Legend of Zelda amiibo to get Link's outfit.
How about a 4 vs 4 Salmon run mode where you compete for eggs and can steal eggs. You can also splat enemies. That would be wild.
I just want split screen to play Salmon run with my cousins
Yeah Splatoon becoming live service would kill the game for me. I hate wasting money on cosmetics, which is why I'm glad Splatoon is the way it is
I will say I am really against 5v5. It would definitely hurt the chaotic, fast paced nature of the game, making kills matter less, which would further encourage sitting back and farming specials.
I know this is probably wishful thinking but considering Team Order got a dlc when it lost, does that mean Splatoon 4 might have 2 dlcs for whichever 2 teams lose? Just a thought.
The issue with paid cosmetics is either they’re *very significant* and it hinders free player’s ability to express themselves on the same level or they’re *very insignificant* and people don’t really care. Thus, there is no way to have non-intrusive microtransactions and make a significant profit to offset developing new content.
I know a lot of other people commented on this but I thought I’d throw my hat in the ring.
Another thing about 5v5 is now you need MORE members for a competitive Splatoon team when sometimes it feels impossible to even coordinate 4
Idea for the 5v5!!! A new Ranked mode/challenge. We’re overdue for one anyways, so what better way to test it? My idea for it would be an Elimination game of sorts, doing a “Best of 5” with no respawns (until the round ends) with built in Rounds. In other words, you can’t respawn until a team wipes out. These “rounds” would likely be a minute long, with time-outs going to the team with the most Kills.
I think splatoon 4 really needs some sort of split screen co-op mode. I know it seems random, but if Nintendo could market it as 'fun for the whole family' in the way they do Mariokart/Party and Smash Bros, it could start raking in the big bucks.
A split-screen mode would be great. And co-op would definitely be the best way to go about it, since crucial mechanics such as stealth just wouldn't work in splitscreen PvP due to screenpeaking.
Being able to play four player local multiplayer Salmon Run would be absolutely sick. In a similar vein, something like pass-and-play Tableturf would also be neat.
Yknow what would be cool? The saxton hale mode from tf2 into splatoon. It would be like a 1 vs. 10 (more or less players), but the one person has things like increased speed, more health, etc. Or it could be a person playing as a boss from the storymode or dlc.
Juggernaut mode that sort of thing is generally called, I think. And something like that would be pretty cool.
I think it’d be neat if splatoon 3 was a free download initially, with a single player demo (and potential free trial but that’s wishful thinking lol) and you’d just purchase if you want an online pass, singleplayer, or both. Some people may not like how dlcs and stuff have to be purchased with the game, would like a sampler of how splatoon is played without committing themselves to online play, or jue the want to play online and maybe releasing the game like that would work well.
Idea: dual weapon system.
By consuming a full ink tank and proceding through a immobile animation you can swap between your main and another pre chosen weapon mid battle.
Would this be horrible for balance? Absolutely.
Would this be fun? Yes.
The left and right dpad arent doing anything anyway
I think it would be best if the option to switch weapons was done on respawn. Players being able to switch weapons mid-fight may feel pretty off, though I suppose adding lag to it like you suggest could make it workable.
But, for example, if I backline spots you quick enough, they'll probably be able to switch weapons in time to deal with you, reducing the close-range weakness of said backline.
@@freuner-merris yeah that's why I thought it would be a funny balancing nightmare. Rush down an e liter that is saving it's shots and by the time you reach it it's a carbon that's running back at you.
a escort game mode like rainmaker where you push a 8-ball to checkpoints would be really cool
Oh, I definitely would NOT want Splatoon to become live service
LS is a plague on the industry, and I don't want a series I love to succumb to it lol
I most want a stage builder, as it can often be integral for a game’s lifespan. An INSANELY good example of the is Geometry Dash, as it survived 7 YEARS with NO new content at all, purely because the community had access to the level editor. If it didn’t exist, GD would not be alive today.
I think a custom game modes system for private battles could be interesting. This would let players tweak numeric variables in the existing game modes. You could make the tower move faster, change the number of clams needed for a power clam, or adjust special advantage. You could also enable challenge effects, and tweak core things like player health and respawns timers. It’d be great for casual silliness and let competitive players tune the game a little bit to their liking.
Imagine a game mode where the objective is to destroy the enemy team's spawn point(s)
making splatoon a live service game would ruin everything and i would mourn the loss forever
Personally would love a 4 team mode like you said that would be fun. Also a map editor. Not personally into the other ideas, would actually like more weapon redundancy with dual squelcher from Splatoon 1 being re-added, but for the rest I would rather them make new unique stuff. A lot of people have weapons they like and it would be sad to see them disappear/get merged like Luna.
I gotta talk about this every time someone brings up $40 diddykong.
That bundle was for what was about $100 worth of rubies for the price of $40. Diddy kong was a BONUS that you got to try and sweeten the deal
that pack was for rubies, not for diddy kong
I think the issue with a stage builder is that they'll incorporate an ai to find any flanks you try to put in the stage and remove them
I think it would be cool to have a new casual mode, something like the challenges, but more casual focused and more chaotic. Random mutators on players, weapons, and maps would be pretty fun if it was a permanent mode for casual players who just wanna see some funny, crazy stuff happen.
The map builder would also be pretty cool. Maybe we’ll have something like the course world from Super Mario Maker where we can browse maps and play on them. There could be a mode for featured and popular maps to appear in public lobbies. I’m hoping it just doesn’t completely replace the Nintendo-made maps.
I love the idea of a stage builder, also love your stages Wave, they look super fun
Give me split screen co-op in the next game and it may just be a guaranteed buy
Local multiplayer Salmon Run would be so awesome.
This would probably be a limited format, but I would love a FFA, Wake (Quake) Arena mode.
You spawn in with something like a Splattershot and Splat Bombs but no special; but you can pick up other, limited use mains, subs and specials across the map.
Lore-wise it could be an extension of Salmon Run, where the ascendant Salmonoids have begun kidnapping Inklings and Octolings to fight for their amusement as retribution. This would also just justify making everyone the same ink color.
Also, there are no gear abilities because everyone is in Mad Max versions of Grizzco slopsuits.
Having to scavenge for and fight over stuff like canned specials and weapons would be so cool.
Ideas:
1. Male Idols(Inklings or Octolings) I had thought of a 4 character boy idol team, this could also make some interesting splatfests too, some ideas could be
Splatfest 1: Four Seasons(Summer, Winter, Spring, Fall)
Splatfest 2: Card symbols(Diamond, Spade, Heart, Clover)
Splatfest 3: Elements(Earth, Fire, Wind, Water)
Splatfest 4: Mathematics???(Addition, Subtraction, Multiplication, Division)
Splatfest 5: Sports(Soccer, Baseball, Basketball, Football)
Splatfest 6: Colors(Red, Blue, Yellow, Green)
Splatfest 7: Emotions(Happy, Sad, Anger, Fear)
I know some of these aren't perfect but it's ideas
2. Crossover gear, imagine having marios cap as an equip able hat, or using bowser Jr's ink brush as it's own weapon, or Links tunic as a "shirt" and uh...Yoshi's equip able shoes?
3. Following up #2 I think bowser Jr's inkbrush would be an interesting weapon, I figured it's "special" ability could be "sabotage" where you use the brush to cover the enemy opponents screen partially in your ink color to hinder their vision to a degree for a few seconds, could be used to gain an advantage and it doesn't feel too overwhelmingly broken(that I think) with the sub weapon being able to make weak polluted piranhas that spray ink of your color to nearby enemies when they get close, it's relatively weak and can die pretty easily but it's like a little turret
4. New stats for gear
1. Jump Height(Allows player to jump higher, naturally...applies to kid form and squid form, may help jumping over a few obstacles, or whatnot...not the most useful I'll admit)
2. Second Wind(Exclusive to the shirt gear, allows the player a one time use per match ability to respawn in the same location as where they were previously splatted, it's only one time use per GAME so use it only when you believe it would benefit the team and don't waste it)
3. Sneaky Special(Exclusive to the hat, hides whenever an enemy uses a special attack, so it doesn't reveal to the enemy that you're using it)
4. Saving grace(Exclusive to the shoes, when inkling has taken 50% of their health in damage, increases swim speed, increases defense up, increases run speed, hopefully so they can make a quick getaway to avoid being splatted)
I know it’s not likely to happen with grandfest implications, but I would love to see S4 be a tropical themed game. Every good Nintendo franchise has a tropical entry (Mario, Zelda, animal crossing, etc)
A few more playable species. That's all I want
Honestly a stage builder would go so unreasonably hard, especially if you could play them with other people,,, I feel like it'd be pretty likely that they'd aim for a similar aesthetic to Shift Stations, and that'd be really interesting.
On a related note; I feel like a single player stage editor is almost more likely? They could do something similar to Link's Awakening DX where you can unlock and mix together different "rooms" or parts or smthn.
I want a new change in the lobby area were the dummies and the lockers are at and would be better if they replace the dummies with NPC that can act like a player similar to the rival octolings and you can change them on what weapon, sub, special and skill percentage to test your skills, I know they did that would the robot thing in the left area but it can't move around, aim at you and switch weapons, subs and special to really test your skills
I want giant salmon run. If whatever switch sequel Nintendo is cooking up has enough processing power, I want 8 player salmon run with big stages. It would be pure chaos and absolutely amazing.
Having more players in Salmon Run would be easier to balance than PvP, definitely. Would be really cool to see that many players all working together on a larger map.
If you want a model for a bigger team mode take a look at big battles in halo(the good ones)
Larger teams on larger maps with a size that could even allow for having 2 main weapons available.
Meanwhile on the salmon run side I'd honestly love a mode that straight up rips like helldivers or deep rock galactic design: go in, fight to the objective, grab stuff on the way out, and then run for it!
A small change aswell is it'd be nice to have players show up in the backgrounds of stages as an audience for the matches.
I love Deep Rock, and hope that Salmon Run (or whatever replacement mode if they change things up) in the next game uses some ideas from it. Escape sequences for instance: having to quickly make it back to an escape pod or something would feel really cool with Splatoon's movement mechanics.
Rock and stone!
Its important to note that this will be the first time the franchise will ever experience any really significant difference in how powerful the hardware is, in almost 10 years. The Switch isn’t all that much more powerful than the Wii U.
I just hope they give us more customization options with the characters like a lot more hairstyles we could change our face smile, eye shape, ears along with newer clothing, maybe even like weapon scans are colorization of our weapons or even just new game modes etc
Okay hi everyone I just clicked on the video but I saw the stage builder in the thumbnail and I have to say it was my BIGGEST hope for Splatoon 3 post side order. I kinda saw it as marina came back and you could play as her and make custom shifty stations that you could use in pbs
i hope splatoon 4 is actually substantially different enough from old splatoon to not just replace it. have this era of splatoon be the original gameplay style different enough from 4 to warrant a port of of 3 to the switch 2
Love the stages, Wave! And thanks for the key on the side.
1:46 I just realized how fast Splatoon 3 is. I mean, we talk about it as a community but yeah. It's pretty fast pace with so many things happening at the same time
Yeah it's the competitive shooter that's most like a movement shooter
Ngl, if splatoon 4 has micro transactions I’m not buying it