@WorriedBySheep yes we should. I have covid & mine are cold like symptoms times by a thousand. Doesn't take much to do a lateral flow test.and they ARE good. If you test positive on a lateral flow you're definitely positive,
It is great having these updates weekly. I know that we always hear the truth from Tim so I listen to him rather than any of our ministers who I do not trust. Thank you Tim and your team for all you are doing.
Tim, we are currently in Spain, staying in a small town in Valencia Province. It is noticeable that everyone wears masks in shops etc and most do so outdoors where there are significant numbers of people, eg at the outdoor market and today at the town fireworks for Valencia Day, where even quite small children had masks on. Maybe this makes a substantial difference - much lower cases than in Buckinghamshire! We're thinking of staying!
It only makes sense that the number of recorded cases are mostly among the unvaxxed. The question though is 'why would the vaxxed get tested when they are mostly asymptomatic'. The likelihood of the virus spreading is because of the vaxxed not knowing they have the virus. Am I wrong or does this make sense?
Also, don't forget that most people were asymptomatic before there was even a vax. So does it even work at all?! On top of all that, those same people that acquired natural immunity went to get vaxxed and convinced that the vax works 100%. Now they are trying to impose their will on mandates. I feel so bad for the human race right now. Such simple minded people doing what they are told without question.
The thing that makes the vaccines look effective is the fact the virus is far less deadly now. At 02:20 He’s says we have about 30,000 new unvaccinated cases a day with deaths running at less than 150 a day. Go back to January … UK cases were around 50,000 a day and deaths were about 1,000 a day !!! Claiming the reduction in deaths is due to the jab is highly, highly suspect.
My teenage granddaughter was off all week with a nasty virus you would have suspected of being Covid but all tests came back negative. All the usual bugs are still doing the rounds in schools!
@@tabithatither2198 They've been doing the rounds at nurseries too! ... all summer been pretty brutal. The two year old brings back something every few weeks, they seem to get over it in a day or two, but leaves mum and dad feeling grotty for ages.
@@JedRichards Oh yes those toddler germs. When looking after grandkids I kept high dose vitamin C tablets to hand and swallowed boatloads if they were going down with anything. It worked for me most times.
Cases are just as high now as before the vaccine? Strange that! India has a very low vaccination rate and low number of cases, Strange that! They are using medication instead of vaccines. The UK still isn’t medicating people who are positive until they’re in hospital, Strange that!
People are still getting infected but much, much fewer people are dying. So the vaccines are doing the job of protecting against severe disease and death.
@@elisjones9552 Vaccination reduces hospitalizations, that is clear. However some countries with the highest vaccination rates, like Israel, Singapore and UK, currently have high rates of cases. The vaccine isn’t stopping transmission.
That's why I've got it. I know that everybody will get it. My first socially distanced night out in 20 months & I caught it, sat at a distanced table with my negative partner but yet still got it. Don't want to scare anyone but please make sure your at your fittest b4 you get this. Im on day 6 & aswell as all the other symptoms I've mentioned on my new posting, I've completely lost my appetite & barely eaten for 6 days. I do blame the government but I understand that we will have to live with covid. I've never caught the flu though so don't know why I'm forced to get covid. The flu jab has 50% efficacy & Pfizer 88% after 5 months. Doesn't make sense then why so many breakthrough infections are happening. I'm the 3rd in my family to be double vaccinated & to get symptomatic covid, which means in my eyes that it doesn't stop transmission at all
More than usual, with this government in particular I'm more inclined to believe its cock up or sheer incompetence to be the reason behind this. I do not mean this as a party political point. I just this this particular government is a shambles. Their policies are a mess and I don't trust anything they say. That's why I come here and Dr John Campbells videos
I too believe Option3 is a stronger possibility than the two that Tim offered. The UK government from the outset have been far too blasé about death rates and have consistently been in (slow) reactive, rather than proactive, mode (as evidenced yet again by procrastination on traffic lights, mask-wearing and other sensible protective measures.
@@Pilky-Bs2Mc Of course it doesn't stop transmission. It was never intended to, and never could. It is impossible for an injection in the arm creating anti-bodies in the blood to prevent a rapidly replicating respiratory virus from replicating in the nose, and then shedding. All the trials, all the studies, have only been about preventing the virus replicating in the lungs and causing more severe illness in the vaccinated. I listened to a panel of virologists when the viruses were being developed, and they were clear that at best there might be some small effect on transmission, but the vaccines would not be neutralising. This is why vacicne passports are NOTHING to do with public health, but relate to a much darker control agenda.
Totally agree. If you can't persuade some people to get vaccinated then the only way to develop a high level of immunity in the population is to let it spread. I think the govt are more than happy that 65K people a day are getting/boosting immunity by way of natural infection. I believe they will only change symptom list/take other measures to reduce infection levels if pressure on hospitals becomes unsustainable.
I'm quite cynical about why the government won't update the symptoms. I fear it's because they want to get the economy moving now and do not want everyone with a 'cold' isolating. I also wonder if their real strategy is heard immunity, and they are happy with case numbers as they currently are. I hope I'm wrong, as some who has had long covid for 18 months, I feel it's criminal they are not updating the symptoms. Thanks for all your work, Tim. Keep banging the drum about updating the symptoms.
Another theory in regard to the obvious non-updating of the common symptoms is perhaps that the Government want the latest variant to go through the population and get it over and done with before the worst of winter, and also to keep the economy moving.
This is definitely it! The current message is "this will be a cold by next spring". Just like the panic which has been portrayed, the new message is psychologically leading people to believe there's no need to take any precautions NOW.
during this whole show we've had data spat at us based on cases, which may be as frightening as a bit of a sniffle, rather than hospitalisations and deaths. This data may be useful if we have a base line to compare it to. But how many people die on a normal day of anything? Until we're aware of that (and it's easy to find, but they don't tell us, so we don't know % of all daily deaths from covid) then the numbers can look frightening or not depending how they're presented.
Hi Tim, I look forward to weekly updates as it gives a better representation of what’s happening and backed up by breaking down all the details. I’m just wondering though when will you start to show data for those like myself that have had the Moderna vaccine? I know it started later but it would be nice to get an idea of how it seems to be performing with the data gathered so far.
How ironic that Tim’s funding is from the government. As such, these weekly ‘updates’ are vetted prior to recording. Tim won’t bite the hand that feeds, his newfound UA-cam income depends on his compliance.
Subjective: Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions. "his views are highly subjective" Objective: not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts. Seemed pretty subjective to me.
Let’s be clear … he is criminal .. hundreds of thousands are dying needlessly because medical professionals are blocking the use of ivermectin … There will be a reckoning in the courts … And the price to be paid will match the scale of the crime.
My nursing colleagues sent their kids into school with a "cold" said child was just sneezing and had tested negative two days previously with lateral flow test. Only on the next routine lateral flow they found they were positive for covid. My colleagues they were not pleased about not knowing the correct symptoms ! Please don't berate them ..... If I am told that sneezing is definitely not a symptom ( as we were correctly at the beginning of the pandemic ) and continue to be on the NHS website then I don't think it's unreasonable to assume you don't have a disease for which you have no symptoms. My point is that the NHS website NEEDS to change!!!
Surely they would have used lateral flow tests and as nurses should have known about the extensive list of symptoms. Everyone I know uses LFT if they are unwwell with cold like symptoms and if the test is positive they have a PCR test. If the LFT is negative and they continue to feel unwell or feel worse they book a PCR test.
Why didn’t they know the correct symptoms? Medical professionals should keep themselves up to date. If I were them, I wouldn’t be broadcasting this as it doesn’t reflect well on them at all. I’d say a significant portion of lay people would have the common sense to do a lateral flow if they had respiratory symptoms. (Original comment to which this was a response, completely rewritten, so all context now lost!).
They were relying on NHS official information, which should be a reasonable way to keep updated (I work in mental health) It was their child, not they themselves as we are all doing lateral flow tests and are appropriately self isolating . Their child had also done a lateral flow two days prior to the "cold" . They had earlier in the term kept their child off self isolated for a persistent cough .... Which came back negative, because a cough is not a symptom of covid in the young.... So PCR test and off school when not required. And in school and no PCR when required. The NHS list needs to change.
I remember back last year when Matt Hancock got covid. I saw a clip of him on tv after he'd recovered saying his main symptom was "a throat like glass". If our health secretary cant see he didnt have the classic symptoms then what hope do we have! A shambles and possibly costing lives!
Tim/Zoe you NEED to explain that covid now has cold symptoms YES, BUT so much more aswell. People are beginning to think it's just a bad cold. I have mild covid now & I'm weak getting up, breathless going to the loo or walking to the kitchen, haven't eaten in 6 days because I CAN'T, my head feels like it's going to explode, can only take sips of water else I choke, have bronchitis due to covid, my bed's soaking wet, I have NO voice at all as my throat's been attacked, my vision's blurred, my chest hurts, occasional tachycardia 110bpm, ear ringing & symptoms change by the hour and so does your mood which is another symptom coz I don't suffer from mental health. Please explain this before people get so relaxed about getting a so called bad COLD they go to covid parties
Parts of India doing well with home kits for early treatments including vitamins and IVM. Impressive results even with very low jab rates. Why oh why can't we be doing the same?
@Sudan Young, Many people in poor countries, including India are infested by parasites. If they get Covid and are subsequently given steroids to suppress their immune system, these parasites can overwhelm their weakened immune system and kill them. Giving these people Ivermectin immediately upon suspicion of infection by this virus eliminates these parasites before they become sick enough to need steroids, and therefore significantly improves their chances of survival. In poor countries where there are a lot of parasites, Ivermectin or any other anti parasite drugs is very beneficial and makes sense.
@Heather Proctor, Everyone is in favor of vitamins. The thing is, if you’re not vitamin deficient, more is not helpful. Even if you’re taking Vitamins, you could be deficient. Dr. Been was taking 10,000 UI of Vitamin D daily, which is a lot, but then he tested his Vitamin D levels and was still deficient.
@@dougpenhall unless we have a totally organic diet we are most likely deficient in most minerals. Mass produced veg is grown on nutrient poor soils. Since I've been adding extra magnesium, Vit D and general vitamin/mineral supplement I haven't felt tired since.
I cannot understand why Labour Leaders have not taken up the symtoms misrepresentation issue. It is their voters in inner cities that are being worst affected nowdays.
@@jasonandlynnechambers3420 I cant believe any of the data anymore. How are they measuring these deaths? What are the age groups? What is their health status? Did they catch it after admission? I need the bullshit vax these days.
@@jasonandlynnechambers3420 my irritation at the original comment lies in the tiresome predictability of the feckless left in making a political issue out of that which is not political. The question of the statistical merit of asserted death ‘rates’ versus truly incremental death rates in a meaningful context and across a meaningful time period (and in light of the alternative) is for all of us to consider.
Why have Starmer & Khan not appealed to Londoners to get the vaccine. London is more than 20 points lower vaccination rate than the UK average. This is a hotbed for infection with high density population.
This weekend I was a contact of a woman who has subsequently tested PCR positive. She had thought she just had a slight cold, but rang me a couple of days later to say she was PCR positive (though with extremely mild symptoms - possibly because she is fully vaccinated). If the government had updated the symptoms list promptly this might not have happened. Thankfully I have no symptoms after the contact (we had a 10 minute conversation during which I wore a mask and the woman did not), and have taken the LFT three times and all times it has been negative. I have written to my MP, Layla Moran who is chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Group on coronavirus and she has passed my comments on to the government and is awaiting a response. On a slightly different issue my wife took an antibody test at the invitation of the Zoe app and it came back positive, indicating she had a Covid infection in the last 6 months. That was the first we heard of it so she must have been asymptomatic. Is there a way to get a test for me via Zoe to see if I also had the infection?
Thank you for writing to your MP. I have been bed ridden with Long Covid for over a year and dread this happening to others. The NHS page of covid symptoms in children also hasn’t been updated.
@@simonfernandes6809 they usually decide which virus to vaccinate against based on viruses circulating in the Southern Hemisphere, given that we’ve been told flu didn’t exist during the pandemic I ask again how can you vaccinate against an unknown virus
Utter rubbish … Starmer couldn’t protect our kids from Saville, can’t appoint his shadow cabinet with intelligent people, votes against all the sensible changes in the Commons…total laugh!
Newsflash: All career politicians are ego-driven. All we can do is hope they have some common sense and competence - but both are sorely lacking in the current crop.
@@robinmyman not sure what Starmer has to do with this. He's not the PM and you don't know how he would have handled this crisis because you haven't got a crystal ball. What we do know for sure, however, is that the current PM is an abject failure at absolutely everything and he should be made accountable. The fact that you think that Starmer would have been worse means absolutely nothing and it's a distraction from the failures of the current cabal of corrupt and inept tory scum. You're welcome.
My alternative explanation for why the classic symptoms have not been updated is the government is happy for natural immunity to be boosted in the wake of the virus spreading. A logical strategy given that the pressure on the NHS is being contained and winter is coming (get this over with as quick as possible)?
@@pabs5581 correct Israel is massive proof now the vaccine is doing more harm then good , only the elderly and vulnerable should even consider these jabs , crazy for anyone else to take them and going to cause big problem!
Didn't Johnson already state this when he opened the UK back up and removed restrictions because he didn't want to 'wait until winter when the virus would be more destructive'. That was his call for herd immunity attempts either natural or vaccinated. Not that either has particularly worked at reducing transmission 🤣
Caught C-19 last Dec. 4 days of sniffles, back at the gym a week later. Been taking Zinc, Quercetin and D3 daily. 18mg Ivermectin weekly since Feb. Feeling great. Zero issues. Life as normal.👍
I find the differences in the apparently differing definitions of ‘natural immunity’ very confusing. When I first researched it, I understood that ‘natural’ (aka ‘innate’) immunity is what you have at birth and that thereafter, it is called ‘acquired’ immunity. But some of the experts, including Tim here, seem to use. ‘natural immunity’ and ‘’immunity through natural infection’ interchangeably?
Tim is talking about acquired natural immunity here. I.e immunity that has been acquired by natural infection. He compares it to vaccine acquired immunity and immunity acquired from natural infection followed by vaccine. The latter appears the strongest.
by taking a vaccination after already developing an adaptive immune response to the virus, the immune system will preferentially react with a D-T-B cell sequence to the s-specific type antigens, essentially nullifying the benefit of naturally acquired immunity to the 20+ viral proteins obtained previously, and leaving the vaccinee more exposed to the effects of antigenic drift that is currently occurring
I've been wondering if our snobbish public health officials in the States are dismissing your data for some stupid reason. I would have thought this study was more than large enough to be reliable, but we've seen other data dismissed so I can't rule it out. I appreciate your hard work, and everyone's taking the time to provide the basic data to keep others updated. And of course, I'm sharing this information to keep as many people informed as I can. Just wish our governments took the team's work more seriously.
What do you mean? What would you have them do with symptom tracker data from the UK? The CDC COVID symptoms list includes all of these except sneezing. BTW: There's a difference between the most common symptoms and the most useful diagnostic symptoms. For example, headaches are a very common COVID symptom, but since they are so common normally, they have extremely little value in determining if someone has COVID.
No vaccination :65% protection. ( it,s all about relative risk reduction )That was the previous benchmark for most vaccinations!! Just love the way Tim doesn,t see this. Are we blindly heading to multiple annual Covid vacccinations - for all over 65s, over 59s. Bio n tech working on new variant vaccines even while we observe the ‘symptoms’ becoming more like the common cold. ….. Keep your eyes open when you cross the road.
Ask why the touted benefit of mRNA vaccines was that they could be re-engineered very quickly for specific variants (a reason why they were originally developed in an attempt to combat cancer). BioNTech came up with their vaccine very quickly following the release for the Wuhan genetic code. Yet we have not seem any similar rapid development and release of a Delta specific vaccine. Of course, that could reduce the scope for boosters...
You are 66% more likey to catch covid,if you've been vaccinated-recent data.Of course,sickness is still likely to be less sever.However,some highly reliable sources are saying vax related deaths in the states are around onehundred fifty thousand
Glad you've had your 3rd dose 👍. I've caught it without getting mine. It's taught me something. My doctor's are absolute shite. 119 is shite 111 are very good & oximeter home help are brilliant. My doctor's haven't helped me once when I've been struggling to breathe. Disgusting
@@marilynshepherd6480 Agree. At 76, immunosuppressed, I didn't get it. I had a difficult time with cancer and particularly bone strengthening treatments as I have ME and had to decline. I had Covid and recovered fairly quickly. But then I have a good doctor of environmental medicine.
I am double-vaccinated. PCR test taken 11days ago prior to admission to (private) hospital was negative, followed by strict self-isolation until admission. Routine day-5 PCR = positive result. Day 7 PCR and LFT = negative. Where does that leave me? Was the Day-5 a ‘false positive’? What is the incidence of ‘false positives?’ Keep up the good work with Zoe!
I am double - vaccinated (Astra) but am completely floored by Covid which I caught through my teen who has bounced back beautifully. I am literally poleaxed by Covid and very scared now of long Covid or catching it again. Maybe I’m lucky not to be in hospital but what was the point of vaccination if I feel this poorly?
alan jenkins But would a younger person have faced that outcome? On a positive note the infection has built natural antibodies which should head off any further infection due to their more generalised nature.
Thanks both. Yes I am alive. But it is hell. I always did what I was told, took my medicine (vaccine x2) , wore my mask in enclosed spaces, took vitamin d , you name it etc etc. I’m not sure I’ll be bothered to get the flu jab or the booster from here on in because clearly- in my experience anyway- it does not make much difference. I am a very fit 50 year old. I work out, I’m slim, don’t smoke and have 4 boys who keep me very active but right now I feel about 100 years old and I can breathe yes but not without great effort & discomfort. So what was the point again? That I’m alive? Oh great…
@@alanjenkins1508 ,How do you know the vaccine isn't causing the virus to be more prevalent?. After all they were designed to specifically look for the covid 19 strain and not any variants.
That’s a shame I am sorry you feel so bad. Yes it feels a little bit like we have been sold a dud if we expected the vaccines to stop us getting really sick. However since Delta it appears it prevents hospitalisation and death for most folk - a good thing but being really unwell is no fun. Hope you feel better soon and your vaccines protect you from long covid.
@@starlinguk Me too - a huge red itchy swollen area about 6" diameter! Worst local reaction I've ever had to the flu jab - or any jab for that matter. Anyone know what causes this??
I agree. I am booked for both at same time and I am refusing the booster. If I have a reaction, I want to know which one caused it. Also I have had 2 Astrozenica jabs and they were planning to give me Pfizer. I DO NOT agree mixing the vax so I will refuse Pfizer regardless. I want Astrozenica booster or not at all. Feedback Tim please.
I suspect the vaccines offer little protection fullstop. The ONS issued data on deaths by vaccination status tom2 July. From 2 April to 2 July 67% of deaths were vaccinated people. No updates on the data so far…. If this is a disease of the immunocompromised, as is evident from the data from many countries, and the immunocompromised often do not get full benefits from a vaccine, then the issue is not vaccination levels of the total population but rather focused protection of the at risk. Why are you not discussing this?
why isn't every government in the world putting it into practice? The only disease eradicated by vaccine (to the best of our knowledge) is smallpox, which is held up as the gold standard. There the original intention was to reach 80% vax in the population but this was unworkable so they adopted a ring vax strategy, protecting the vulnerable and not allowing contact. In fact, wsn't this how the bubonic plague was dealt with in the days before modern medicine (I'm asking; I don't know for sure)? Why on earth have we not followed this model?
@@charlytaylor1748 indeed. The Great Barrington Declaration basically argued for this after wave 1. It is still necessary now as pushing this to endemic level, which is the only way out as the vaccines are not sterilising, means everyone will be exposed. Hopefully the vaccines really do imbue protection against a bad case but the level of vaccinated getting hospitalised and dying suggests they may not be working for all immunocompromised, which is in line with what vaccinologists would say (ie you need a health immune system to allow a vaccine to work properly). So possibly back to square one, the at risk are still at risk and the rest of us have had a medication we don’t need (some have had serious adverse events or died…) and Western government still deny those who do get ill potentially life saving early treatment regimens. It will be seen as the greatest public health travesty in a century or more.
@@adrianryan5654 Perhaps instead of just focussing on vaccines, more funding should have been given to treatments. I note both Merck and Pfizer have now seen $$$s in that and are trying to get "Pfizermectin" approved.
Why are there no studies that take naturally immune people into account? With 100s and thousands of cases daily, there would be a large number of NI people. Are they getting reinfection? Does NI wane? If so, how quickly? If so, what is the hospitalisation etc.etc.
Do you have a link to the data about protection from natural immunity. You tell that's 75%. I heared 99% from other sources. So I want to see the data. Thanks in advance!
It's his data, from the Zoe app. Straight from the horse's (scientists) mouth, as it were. From what he said last week it's a new analysis they were doing, so it won't be published for ages yet - publication process takes 2-3 months ish.
My granddaughter has had two positive lateral flow tests and a negative PCR test. It is very confusing for the parents who do not know whether to send her to school or not.
This may have been raised before, but another possible reason for govt not updating its symptom list is as follows: if you think you might have Covid and get a PCR test, you are required to self-isolate until the results come through IF you have symptoms on the govt's list. Since the vast majority will actually have a cold, this would lead to another pingdemic which the govt wants to avoid. Moreover, people would be less likely to even ask for a PCR test with a runny nose if they and their family would be locked up for 2-3 days, leading to under-reporting.
Good point. I've only just got my PCR positive result after trying to get one 6 days ago. The option for a drive through in my area has diminished. Nearest 20 miles away & when you're feeling awful & too poorly to drive, you have to go with the home test kit. That arrived 5 days ago but the barcode scanner refused to work. Once you begin to register your kit, you can't turn back, so it's not like I could've rang 119 for help. Had to reorder another. By the time that result came back, almost a week had gone & however important your job is, if it IS negative, that's a complete waste of time.
Thank you Tim. Very helpful. I am double vaccinated with Pfizer and just got over a rough case of the Delta variant. Same with my partner. No idea how I got it. As I just had my second jab in august. I don’t go anywhere ..barely, and the only time I do I socially distance and wear a mask. I am also an athlete and am fit and healthy. The whole thing boggles my mind. Still reporting to Zoe. Keep up the great work! Many blessings Xx
@@tabithatither2198 No. I believe that my husband and I had it in March of 2020. Very fast and brutal infection while in London and following all of the masking and social distancing. It was mainly projectile vomiting and fever and headache at that time which the NHS did not acknowledge as Covid symptoms at the time. There was no way to test us at the time as our GP was shut down and the nearest Chelsea Westminster hospital was overly full with dying patients.
Why are different PCR magnification thresholds being used for different people? Why is everyone not tested at the same level of magnification? Why is the PCR test being used to diagnose infections in the first place?
Labs have tested goats, fruit, cola and even a puddle, just to name a few things....they all tested positive for 'C'. It's all madness. The PCR testing method is ridiculous, and the whole bloody thing relies on the data it produces. Anything tested over 27-30 cycles of magnification is useless data. Most are going 35-45 cycles around England.....that is simply ludicrous. The amount of false positives it produces and lives it affects makes the whole method redundant. You experts all know this. Yet you say nothing? It's like invasion of the body snatchers or something. I've never known such smart people to be so blinded to the truth of reality....its a scary sight. I hope for everyone's sake that you all snap out of this trance you seem to be in. Stop falling for the lies over and over again. Peoples lives are literally at stake and ingnorance to the facts is no excuse. God help you all. Here is a simple fact from the W.H.O for you to put this 'deadly virus' into some sort of perspective... The average annual global case rate for seasonal flu (for which cv19 is proven to be no worse) is 1 Billion cases. Now, compare that to the covid cases. End of.
There was a change in gov policy at start of term. if you have a parent or household member with covid, under 18s still go to school. School spread by design or incompetence????
Heard that kids with symptoms go to have a test but are told to them go back to school while waiting for the result! And we wonder why the rates are high.
Sorry Tim, I currently have a runny nose, headache, am sneezing, have a bit of a sore throat and cough, but if I were to put that on the Zoe app it would be a false infection. I have a cold, nothing more. Taken two lateral flow tests this week and both have been negative. Maybe others are reporting and are skewing the the Zoe data?
The gov should update their symptoms list, it's ridiculous, but there are enough asymptomatic cases to still drive infections. Regular testing no matter how you feel is important to stay ahead of it and I think people are just bored of that.
Thank you Tim for all your hard work. Totally with you on calling on the Government to account publicly on why the are NOT following the science. I could understand (if still not support) some scenarios for not publishing the better information on the symptoms, but to claim as they do that they follow the science and then blatantly ignore the science without acknowledging that or why is plain wrong. When I see medical facilities, dentists and care homes asking people if they currently have symptoms of CV, and quote only the original symptoms it makes me very concerned about how they think they are safeguarding the vulnerable or their own vital staff.
Is the reason why the government don't change the classic three symptoms due to the link to self isolation. The government web site says you should self isolate as soon as you have one of the three classic symptoms. If they extended the list to include headache, runny nose and sore throat people would have to self isolate with these conditions and that would have a huge impact on the numbers of people self isolating and being off work / school. They would therefore have to change the advice to have different actions for different symptoms. For example for symptoms of headache, runny nose and sore throat take a lateral flow test and if positive self isolate and get a PCR test. I recently had a bad cold and because of Zoe was able to get a PCR test which was negative - so thank you Tim for your great work, your fantastic weekly updates and your book "Spoon Fed" which i have now read after seeing it every week on your bookshelf behind you !!
Really good analysis from both Dr Been and Dr John Campbell. Also from Zoe data and Prof Spector reports. Interesting analysis of data from Merck on Molnupiravir, including some comparisons with Ivermectin. Bring on a proper study for comparison, and separately for Ivermectin for Long Covid.
@@pbanther3902 Yes than I had been led to believe before I saw them, different mechanisms. Molnupirivir unlikely to work for Long Covid as I understand, but I could be wrong. These things need proper testing where the general evidence makes it worthwhile to do so for the greater good.
I’m not sure how all you scientists can just ignore the Covid statistics from the state of Uttar Pradesh in India. Their vaccination rate is less than a third of ours, they have high levels of overcrowding and poverty, a universal health system is not yet developed yet they have brought their Covid numbers down from the the hundreds of thousands to 20 today. Is it not part of scientific thinking to be at least curious?
Totally agree. It seems not many are brave enough to speak of the drug that shall not be named. It is currently being researched in a UK trial but I fear they may have set it up to fail as it is being given up to 14 days into the infection. We know this is late. I hope Tim and others get their big boy pants on and address the elephant in the room.
Difficult to agree that the British Public are intelligent when travelling on crowded London overground services with more than 50% of passengers not wearing masks. In busy Tate Britain yesterday saw only two people without, in five hours. Art lovers more intelligent? Or the signs asking for masks to be worn?
@Neil Howells that's to cover themselves from the clueless ones who don't have the ability to put them on properly. It's why airplanes still have ashtrays in the toilets even though smoking is banned. A fire in the bin is much worse!
@@TheBarlby do you actually watch Tim Spector’s videos or are you so boring you’re just trying to spend your time being unpleasant? If you fancy a dose of long Covid, go ahead.
One thing that might be useful to clarify is whether the 'new symptoms' are associated with Delta, irrespective of immunological status, or whether they are manifest mainly in the previously infected/vaccinated, with 'traditional' symptoms appearing in those with no prior immunity. I suspect the first, but am unsure.
Hello there, the top 5 symptoms shown in the video are for those with prior vaccination. We have a list of the top symptoms for the unvaccinated as well which you can read more about in our blog: covid.joinzoe.com/post/new-top-5-covid-symptoms
My partner and I had our flu jabs a few weeks ago now and he is getting his Covid booster tomorrow due to his workplace being a hospice. I was speaking to my local chemist who does all our vaccination and he reckons it will be around a month until I get my booster because its got to be at least 180 days after your last Covid vaccine, that sounds about right. I would have logged the flu ones too because we always get them too as I have asthma/COPD so have been getting the flu one annually for a decade. I think you maybe asked us about comorbidities at the beginning but cant remember for sure. I, for one, wouldnt mind giving info on comorbidities if its going to help in the long run. Thanks again Tim for always keeping us daily loggers in the loop. Like I said I am always willing to give any additional info to help with any of the studies you and your colleagues are doing. You may as well get as much as you can via the app (not that I am thinking of stopping.)
When the FDA gave Pfizer full approval, the vaccine efficacy was said to be in excess of 91%. However, Pfizer only used data up to 13th March 2021, ie before the Delta variant!!
Actually, Pfizer has not been granted FDA approval... still designated for EUA. The FDA authorized Comirity (BioNtech), which is not yet available in the states.
Pfizer is 90% efficient against delta. The delta variant has been used as an excuse by incompetent politicians. The same waves would in all likelihood have happened with any other variant.
@@Shelmerdine745 Then why did they extend the EUA for the one they are currently using?, they approved Comirnaty which you can't get in US currently but only granted an extension to the emergency status and the indemnity from prosecution EUA grants to the Pfizer jab that's currently being used. Seems a bit suspect if they are truly the same "vaccine".
Time to be looking at why the virus case rates have been behaving quite differently in in the various parts of the UK. Why the North East of England has remained stubbornly elevated since Delta arrived in May ? but caused a sharper peak in Scotland.
Love your info, but feel disturbed by your decision to get both flu and booster together is good for all because you didn’t have any problem with it. That doesn’t seem like a professional decision.
Where did you find that? All I can find is the ONS quote "Of those who had experienced side effects and were still awaiting their second dose of a vaccine, 63% said the side effects would not affect their decision to get the second dose, and 35% were more likely to get the second dose."
In the U.K. data study there were: 157,400 Delta variant cases amid the fully vaccinated (26.52% of total cases), and 257,357 Delta variant cases amid the unvaccinated (43.36% of total cases). However, when it came to severe outcomes 63.5% of deaths were from the fully vaccinated group
Where did you get the data about other countries red-listing the UK? You specifically mentioned Finland, but neither I nor a friend who lives in Finland can find any mention of it on Finnish government websites. Their current rules are that if you have two vaccines more than 14 days ago, anyone can enter from anywhere, including the UK.
One elderly friend had his flu jab and Covid vaccine last week. Another is having their Covid jab today. They are mid & late 70s. Both live in N London.
About the natural immunity vs vaccine driven immunity: I did smile at the interpretation of the graph. My interpretation was actually that, given the final bar, there seems to be proportionally far less tangible benefit to having ANY vaccine when it comes to re-infection.
I think you will find that Tasmania also has restricted access for Brits, as it is part of Australia (it's the wee bit down underneath - lol - they have perpetual issues about being overlooked). Thanks for the solid info. From Oz (Victoria).
Yes, despite the UK government relaxing the UK's list of where it's citizens can travel to, they can't control which countries allow us Brits in. And because we no longer have any rules & the UK's been so relaxed since 19 July, alot of countries understandably still don't want us in.
Tim, I have had an unpleasant reaction to my two Astrazeneca jabs. I have an autoimmune gut-based problem and they have made me much more sensitive to foods, and made it necessary to restrict my diet further. I have two friends who have autoimmune problems whose symptoms have also been worsened - one with psoriasis and one with diverticulitis. If this is happening to just my group of friends, this must be a widespread problem, yet I've heard nothing about it. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for vaccines, but I won't be having a booster and i doubt my friends will either.
Im a member of several thyroid groups. Underactive thyroid being an autoamune disease and many of us have had a terrible time after accepting a jab. From what I see, it seems folk who already had covid, and no matter ow mild, and then got jabbed are suffering these side effects. Sadly there's reluctance to officially report these effects.
@@maxinethirlwall8953 I have an underactive thyroid. Had the AZ. Had chills and headache after both doses but the second wasn't as bad as the first. What kind of side effects are people experiencing?
I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome one aspect of which is that I have diverticula throughout my whole gut. Nevertheless, none of my many symptoms were made worse by my jabs- I just had usual mild reaction. I am fortunate it seems. I assume that the risk of increased problems would be worse should I get full blown Covid. I had AZT.
@@jennyjewell5635 not necessarily.. I have auto immune issues( thyroid) and heart disease. I had covid in February. I never would have known if my husband hadn’t tested positive. I had mild cold symptoms. I was also afraid I would be a lot worse. So having underlying conditions doesn’t necessarily mean severe disease.
An unfortunate consequence of Brexit, it had to be towed in the Irish sea and sunk by the remaining Royal Navy coracle HMS Directionaless, sadly the last is her (wiggley) line.
I got a blood test done for antibodies,I had a double jab of AZ 6 months ago . It seems it only tells me I have never had Covid but I am unclear if I have any protection left against the virus ? It said no antibodies were detected.
Thank you for keeping us updated on a regular basis. It's still worrying now the winter is here as I am still vulnerable due to my health. I have concerns as not sure if I have long covid S not been well for over a year now. No one seems to know the cause. I've had several covid tests about ten now and each time negative. But still got the antibodies in my system for over a year now. Stay safe.
Hi, I'm confused by the travel section - you say you can't travel to lots of countries (I'm looking at Egypt in particular) however I cannot find any such info online, flights are running and all sites I've checked say there are no restrictions in place. Where have you got this information please?
Mark Courtney He is perpetuating fear, hence inducing an unhealthy level of totally unnecessary ‘ stress response ‘, which will ( and does ) damage the immune system. Right ! off for tiffin and scones 👋
I am surprised to hear that Tim Spector has had a booster. I am 73 and had my second jab on 21st April. I've had my flu jab but my surgery says they have no knowledge yet about doing boosters and are not doing any; but when you do get one it must be at least 6 months after your 2nd jab. Seems like very different experiences and roll out over the country. I'm in Nottinghamshire.
I went for my booster on Monday night and it was shocking the amount of people who had only had one shot and hadn't "got round" to sorting out a 2nd jab as they thought the pandemic was over because of the messages the government were putting out in relation to getting rid of masks/social distancing etc.
I agree, we can't blame people for thinking it is over when the media have stopped covering covid, the government don't wear masks and even Public Health England isn't advising simple measures.
How did you find that out when you went for another jab? How do you, or anyone else, know they just hadn't "got around to it"? Possibly they had a bad reaction? Or possibly they had had Covid and one dose of vaccine gave them maximum protection (per Israeli data)?
I have 2 family members who have neurological problems that are pointing at Covid as the culprit. My 52 year old brother and 30 year old son both have identical symptoms of paranoia and persecutory illusions. Both are first episode psychosis. Both have had 2 doses of Moderna. The neurologist is looking for seizures and encephalitis. The mri and ct scans are not showing anything. No tumors or bleeding. Both had severe psychosis and hallucinations of the government following them. They both think their neighbors are watching them and spreading rumors about them. My 30 year son lives in Los Angeles. My 52 year old younger brother lives in New York. They both ironically were put on the same meds. Lexipro and Benzodiazepine. They are not improving. We have no recollection of either actually having any other symptoms of having the Covid virus. We are very perplexed. How could this be possible? Apparently this type of long Covid is very rare.
Thanks Tessa for the update. On day 9 of covid. Not sure if the virus has left me yet but it's made me very ill. Had loads of other symptoms but the ones remaining today are chronic sinusitis, bad cough, chest infection, blood in what I'm blowing out, severe headache, crusting left eye, both eyes running, earache, photophobia, zero taste & zero smell. I think I'm having moderate covid, definitely not mild but still consider myself lucky
They are not an appropriate response to any levels. Especially not with a leaky vaccine that does not stop infection, where the vaccinated have the same viral load as the unvaccinated, and can shed the virus at the same level. But such passports are not about public health. They are about control of society for an altogether different purpose.
Surely the fact that infections in the unvaccinated are increasing and the majority of but death and hospitalization is reasonably low is a good thing , the more natural immunity around the better especially as it offers much greater protection than the vax . I’d say that’s good news .
I'll see how well natural protection works for me as that aswell as vaccines don't always work for everyone. I'm getting 2 antibody tests because I'm covid positive shortly & will find out if I've built immunity.
From the first chart at 02:05 it looks like the virus is becoming less ‘dangerous’ … Jan 2021 daily cases in the unvaccinated 50,000 … daily deaths 1,000 Now … daily cases in the unvaccinated 30,000 … daily deaths 120
Yes - bear in mind the ‘unvaccinated cases’ in Tim’s graph are mostly school children too young to vaccinate who are at no risk from the disease anyway. The more they catch it and spread it around amongst their healthy friends, the better for herd immunity. All good.
@@brickmissing8295 ; Yes, You know that, I know that, and HE knows that … But he presents it so as to look like it’s unvaccinated adults who are causing the cases … He actually says “the unvaccinated population …”. Then he gets loads of comments about his wonderful, clear explanations … when he is actually pulling the wool over their eyes … This is where we’ve got to now where you can’t even trust professors and doctors anymore.
Can they measure the fall off of the effectiveness of the first 2 jabs i.e do we risk the booster regardless of whether it gives any significant benefit (or even none at all)?
@@ricardodellecarta2414 Sorry, I could have been clearer. Test show, I've currently got anti bodies. If next months test shows none, I'm likely to be motivated to have a booster. If they " measured" only a 5% drop I might decide to wait. P.S. If things can't be analysed effectively how did you determine they were "tiny"?
@@ricardodellecarta2414 The only measures that matter are deaths and hospitalisations and these can both be measured accurately. ONS provide pretty comprehensive and accepted figures which are freely available to the public. Relying on Companies or the Government to interpret these figures for you ......"Buyer beware" comes to mind!
@@howardramsey7243 ‘The only measures that matter are deaths and hospitalisations’ Wow, you really don’t know the reality of Long Covid. There are some things worse than death. Being bed ridden for over a year, losing the ability to walk & work sure matters to me. It’s much easier to pretend ‘it won’t happen to you’ though.
@@EmilyWalters Sorry, not sure what point you're trying to make? I've not experienced the reality of adverse reactions to the jab either. It's not pretending anything, unfortunately everyone has to decide whether they want the jabs without knowing the ultimate outcome of that choice. Basically we're all hoping we make the right one!
Thank you for calling out the Chief Medical Officer. Under reporting is a disgrace to medical science.
CMO should resign
@WorriedBySheep Yes. Lateral flow are free and easy to use.
@@jasonandlynnechambers3420 and not very reliable.
@WorriedBySheep yes we should. I have covid & mine are cold like symptoms times by a thousand. Doesn't take much to do a lateral flow test.and they ARE good. If you test positive on a lateral flow you're definitely positive,
@@Pilky-Bs2Mc yes but you've probably spread it around for a few days before you get that positive result.
It is great having these updates weekly. I know that we always hear the truth from Tim so I listen to him rather than any of our ministers who I do not trust. Thank you Tim and your team for all you are doing.
Tim, we are currently in Spain, staying in a small town in Valencia Province. It is noticeable that everyone wears masks in shops etc and most do so outdoors where there are significant numbers of people, eg at the outdoor market and today at the town fireworks for Valencia Day, where even quite small children had masks on. Maybe this makes a substantial difference - much lower cases than in Buckinghamshire! We're thinking of staying!
Don't people who had covid but are not aware of it make the vaccines look more efficient than they actually are?
Extremely good point.... that's something that would go over a lot of people's heads....
Maybe, but does that matter?
It only makes sense that the number of recorded cases are mostly among the unvaxxed. The question though is 'why would the vaxxed get tested when they are mostly asymptomatic'. The likelihood of the virus spreading is because of the vaxxed not knowing they have the virus. Am I wrong or does this make sense?
Also, don't forget that most people were asymptomatic before there was even a vax. So does it even work at all?! On top of all that, those same people that acquired natural immunity went to get vaxxed and convinced that the vax works 100%. Now they are trying to impose their will on mandates. I feel so bad for the human race right now. Such simple minded people doing what they are told without question.
The thing that makes the vaccines look effective is the fact the virus is far less deadly now.
At 02:20 He’s says we have about 30,000 new unvaccinated cases a day with deaths running at less than 150 a day.
Go back to January … UK cases were around 50,000 a day and deaths were about 1,000 a day !!!
Claiming the reduction in deaths is due to the jab is highly, highly suspect.
My teenage granddaughter was off all week with a nasty virus you would have suspected of being Covid but all tests came back negative. All the usual bugs are still doing the rounds in schools!
Defo are. Every year its the same thing we just didn't test every Tom, Dick and Harry whenever they sneezed
@@tabithatither2198 They've been doing the rounds at nurseries too! ... all summer been pretty brutal. The two year old brings back something every few weeks, they seem to get over it in a day or two, but leaves mum and dad feeling grotty for ages.
Agreed, but you wouldn't really know for sure either way considering there's no test fit for purpose !
Had she been jabbed?
@@JedRichards Oh yes those toddler germs. When looking after grandkids I kept high dose vitamin C tablets to hand and swallowed boatloads if they were going down with anything. It worked for me most times.
Cases are just as high now as before the vaccine? Strange that!
India has a very low vaccination rate and low number of cases, Strange that! They are using medication instead of vaccines. The UK still isn’t medicating people who are positive until they’re in hospital, Strange that!
I wonder why? Doc Spector may not agree
I don't completely understand, what does this imply? That vaccination doesn't reduce the chance of infection?
People are still getting infected but much, much fewer people are dying. So the vaccines are doing the job of protecting against severe disease and death.
@@simonfernandes6809 Agree, not sure if the original poster was just talking in hyperbole without actually making a point
@@elisjones9552 Vaccination reduces hospitalizations, that is clear. However some countries with the highest vaccination rates, like Israel, Singapore and UK, currently have high rates of cases. The vaccine isn’t stopping transmission.
So helpful to have these updates setting out the data and the implications - thank you
Is it possible to post this video on Facebook?
Thanks Tim! I wish the pneumonia vaccine would be more widely publicised too - the illness is such a killer
Thank you Tim for continuing to call out the government. You're my most reliable source of information on covid
I admire your demeanour Professor Tim. You are obviously an extremely intelligent man but you possess a gift for communication to the general public.
Option 3; they want it to go through the public as quickly as possible now. Highlighting the symptoms doesn’t achieve that goal.
That's why I've got it. I know that everybody will get it. My first socially distanced night out in 20 months & I caught it, sat at a distanced table with my negative partner but yet still got it. Don't want to scare anyone but please make sure your at your fittest b4 you get this. Im on day 6 & aswell as all the other symptoms I've mentioned on my new posting, I've completely lost my appetite & barely eaten for 6 days. I do blame the government but I understand that we will have to live with covid. I've never caught the flu though so don't know why I'm forced to get covid. The flu jab has 50% efficacy & Pfizer 88% after 5 months. Doesn't make sense then why so many breakthrough infections are happening. I'm the 3rd in my family to be double vaccinated & to get symptomatic covid, which means in my eyes that it doesn't stop transmission at all
More than usual, with this government in particular I'm more inclined to believe its cock up or sheer incompetence to be the reason behind this. I do not mean this as a party political point. I just this this particular government is a shambles. Their policies are a mess and I don't trust anything they say. That's why I come here and Dr John Campbells videos
I too believe Option3 is a stronger possibility than the two that Tim offered. The UK government from the outset have been far too blasé about death rates and have consistently been in (slow) reactive, rather than proactive, mode (as evidenced yet again by procrastination on traffic lights, mask-wearing and other sensible protective measures.
@@Pilky-Bs2Mc Of course it doesn't stop transmission. It was never intended to, and never could. It is impossible for an injection in the arm creating anti-bodies in the blood to prevent a rapidly replicating respiratory virus from replicating in the nose, and then shedding. All the trials, all the studies, have only been about preventing the virus replicating in the lungs and causing more severe illness in the vaccinated. I listened to a panel of virologists when the viruses were being developed, and they were clear that at best there might be some small effect on transmission, but the vaccines would not be neutralising. This is why vacicne passports are NOTHING to do with public health, but relate to a much darker control agenda.
Totally agree. If you can't persuade some people to get vaccinated then the only way to develop a high level of immunity in the population is to let it spread. I think the govt are more than happy that 65K people a day are getting/boosting immunity by way of natural infection. I believe they will only change symptom list/take other measures to reduce infection levels if pressure on hospitals becomes unsustainable.
I'm quite cynical about why the government won't update the symptoms. I fear it's because they want to get the economy moving now and do not want everyone with a 'cold' isolating. I also wonder if their real strategy is heard immunity, and they are happy with case numbers as they currently are. I hope I'm wrong, as some who has had long covid for 18 months, I feel it's criminal they are not updating the symptoms.
Thanks for all your work, Tim. Keep banging the drum about updating the symptoms.
Another theory in regard to the obvious non-updating of the common symptoms is perhaps that the Government want the latest variant to go through the population and get it over and done with before the worst of winter, and also to keep the economy moving.
A sensible approach like that? Some chance.
This is essentially the mentality of my government and we did pretty well during this pandemic.
This is definitely it!
The current message is "this will be a cold by next spring". Just like the panic which has been portrayed, the new message is psychologically leading people to believe there's no need to take any precautions NOW.
The economy would do a lot better with fewer cases.
@@lornam3637 It would. Unfortunately there’s a virus going around though.
460 deaths per day from heart disease in the UK.
158 deaths per day from Covid-19.
Where is the priority of care?
during this whole show we've had data spat at us based on cases, which may be as frightening as a bit of a sniffle, rather than hospitalisations and deaths. This data may be useful if we have a base line to compare it to. But how many people die on a normal day of anything? Until we're aware of that (and it's easy to find, but they don't tell us, so we don't know % of all daily deaths from covid) then the numbers can look frightening or not depending how they're presented.
Absolutely well said Sarah!!
Hi Tim, I look forward to weekly updates as it gives a better representation of what’s happening and backed up by breaking down all the details. I’m just wondering though when will you start to show data for those like myself that have had the Moderna vaccine? I know it started later but it would be nice to get an idea of how it seems to be performing with the data gathered so far.
Excellent Tim. Our government is a disgrace and an embarrassment
Agreed
How ironic that Tim’s funding is from the government. As such, these weekly ‘updates’ are vetted prior to recording. Tim won’t bite the hand that feeds, his newfound UA-cam income depends on his compliance.
@@californiaraisins8532 and your proof is...?
@@surfmadpig they have no proof, in fact they haven't a clue where Zoë gets its funding from.
@@californiaraisins8532
That's nonsense, Tim has been calling the government out for months now .
Thank you Tim for a clear and objective update. Extremely educational.
Subjective:
Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
"his views are highly subjective"
Objective: not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
Seemed pretty subjective to me.
Please take care, his data is not 100% accurate, his research team is letting him down.
@@brickmissing8295 hilarious
Let’s be clear … he is criminal .. hundreds of thousands are dying needlessly because medical professionals are blocking the use of ivermectin … There will be a reckoning in the courts … And the price to be paid will match the scale of the crime.
Really? He stumbles around, and says nothing. Most of the cases are in the young, so hospitalisations are low.. Wake up.
My nursing colleagues sent their kids into school with a "cold" said child was just sneezing and had tested negative two days previously with lateral flow test. Only on the next routine lateral flow they found they were positive for covid. My colleagues they were not pleased about not knowing the correct symptoms ! Please don't berate them ..... If I am told that sneezing is definitely not a symptom ( as we were correctly at the beginning of the pandemic ) and continue to be on the NHS website then I don't think it's unreasonable to assume you don't have a disease for which you have no symptoms. My point is that the NHS website NEEDS to change!!!
Surely they would have used lateral flow tests and as nurses should have known about the extensive list of symptoms. Everyone I know uses LFT if they are unwwell with cold like symptoms and if the test is positive they have a PCR test. If the LFT is negative and they continue to feel unwell or feel worse they book a PCR test.
Why didn’t they know the correct symptoms? Medical professionals should keep themselves up to date. If I were them, I wouldn’t be broadcasting this as it doesn’t reflect well on them at all. I’d say a significant portion of lay people would have the common sense to do a lateral flow if they had respiratory symptoms. (Original comment to which this was a response, completely rewritten, so all context now lost!).
They were relying on NHS official information, which should be a reasonable way to keep updated (I work in mental health) It was their child, not they themselves as we are all doing lateral flow tests and are appropriately self isolating . Their child had also done a lateral flow two days prior to the "cold" . They had earlier in the term kept their child off self isolated for a persistent cough .... Which came back negative, because a cough is not a symptom of covid in the young.... So PCR test and off school when not required. And in school and no PCR when required. The NHS list needs to change.
@@sadmom9818 Agree the list needs to change, but still think it’s not good that a nurse doesn’t know, what by now is common knowledge.
Yip SNEEZING appears to be a New Symptom!
I never had this in July with Delta Covid!
I remember back last year when Matt Hancock got covid. I saw a clip of him on tv after he'd recovered saying his main symptom was "a throat like glass". If our health secretary cant see he didnt have the classic symptoms then what hope do we have! A shambles and possibly costing lives!
Tim/Zoe you NEED to explain that covid now has cold symptoms YES, BUT so much more aswell. People are beginning to think it's just a bad cold. I have mild covid now & I'm weak getting up, breathless going to the loo or walking to the kitchen, haven't eaten in 6 days because I CAN'T, my head feels like it's going to explode, can only take sips of water else I choke, have bronchitis due to covid, my bed's soaking wet, I have NO voice at all as my throat's been attacked, my vision's blurred, my chest hurts, occasional tachycardia 110bpm, ear ringing & symptoms change by the hour and so does your mood which is another symptom coz I don't suffer from mental health. Please explain this before people get so relaxed about getting a so called bad COLD they go to covid parties
Many thanks Tim for these updates - so useful to have this additional scientific and research-driven perspective.
Parts of India doing well with home kits for early treatments including vitamins and IVM. Impressive results even with very low jab rates. Why oh why can't we be doing the same?
Tim is not an advocate of Vitamin D!! Anyway not In public!!! Big Pharma rules.
@Sudan Young, Many people in poor countries, including India are infested by parasites. If they get Covid and are subsequently given steroids to suppress their immune system, these parasites can overwhelm their weakened immune system and kill them. Giving these people Ivermectin immediately upon suspicion of infection by this virus eliminates these parasites before they become sick enough to need steroids, and therefore significantly improves their chances of survival.
In poor countries where there are a lot of parasites, Ivermectin or any other anti parasite drugs is very beneficial and makes sense.
@Heather Proctor, Everyone is in favor of vitamins. The thing is, if you’re not vitamin deficient, more is not helpful. Even if you’re taking Vitamins, you could be deficient.
Dr. Been was taking 10,000 UI of Vitamin D daily, which is a lot, but then he tested his Vitamin D levels and was still deficient.
@@dougpenhall unless we have a totally organic diet we are most likely deficient in most minerals. Mass produced veg is grown on nutrient poor soils. Since I've been adding extra magnesium, Vit D and general vitamin/mineral supplement I haven't felt tired since.
I cannot understand why Labour Leaders have not taken up the symtoms misrepresentation issue. It is their voters in inner cities that are being worst affected nowdays.
On the basis that COVID is not fundamentally harmful to most people everywhere, why would the Left see this as an opportunistic political issue ?
@@thomassaunderson2746 150,000 deaths so far and as Tim is saying 50K a year at current rates. Not important enough for you?
@@jasonandlynnechambers3420 I cant believe any of the data anymore. How are they measuring these deaths? What are the age groups? What is their health status? Did they catch it after admission? I need the bullshit vax these days.
@@jasonandlynnechambers3420 my irritation at the original comment lies in the tiresome predictability of the feckless left in making a political issue out of that which is not political. The question of the statistical merit of asserted death ‘rates’ versus truly incremental death rates in a meaningful context and across a meaningful time period (and in light of the alternative) is for all of us to consider.
Why have Starmer & Khan not appealed to Londoners to get the vaccine. London is more than 20 points lower vaccination rate than the UK average. This is a hotbed for infection with high density population.
Very reassuring update, as always Tim. How long will it take the government to listen to this evidence based symptoms list, unbelievable really??
This weekend I was a contact of a woman who has subsequently tested PCR positive. She had thought she just had a slight cold, but rang me a couple of days later to say she was PCR positive (though with extremely mild symptoms - possibly because she is fully vaccinated). If the government had updated the symptoms list promptly this might not have happened. Thankfully I have no symptoms after the contact (we had a 10 minute conversation during which I wore a mask and the woman did not), and have taken the LFT three times and all times it has been negative.
I have written to my MP, Layla Moran who is chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Group on coronavirus and she has passed my comments on to the government and is awaiting a response.
On a slightly different issue my wife took an antibody test at the invitation of the Zoe app and it came back positive, indicating she had a Covid infection in the last 6 months. That was the first we heard of it so she must have been asymptomatic. Is there a way to get a test for me via Zoe to see if I also had the infection?
Thank you for writing to your MP. I have been bed ridden with Long Covid for over a year and dread this happening to others. The NHS page of covid symptoms in children also hasn’t been updated.
Given that apparently there has been no flu during the pandemic, which flu virus are they vaccinating against?
The flu season starts in November - it's not here yet.
@@simonfernandes6809 they usually decide which virus to vaccinate against based on viruses circulating in the Southern Hemisphere, given that we’ve been told flu didn’t exist during the pandemic I ask again how can you vaccinate against an unknown virus
@@jellybean6582 as with most decisions in this long running farce, it will be a guess and hope for the best.
@@johncart2082 exactly
@@johncart2082 I find it stunning folks cooperate, nanny state compliance.
Thanks for explaining the Wales situation this week
And please do keep banging on about symptoms
To have an ego-driven head of state at a time like this is unfortunate.
Utter rubbish … Starmer couldn’t protect our kids from Saville, can’t appoint his shadow cabinet with intelligent people, votes against all the sensible changes in the Commons…total laugh!
He’s our Prime Minister, the Queen is our Head of State.
Newsflash: All career politicians are ego-driven. All we can do is hope they have some common sense and competence - but both are sorely lacking in the current crop.
@@robinmyman just because the leader of the opposition is also useless, that’s doesn’t stop out PM being a useless knob.
@@robinmyman not sure what Starmer has to do with this. He's not the PM and you don't know how he would have handled this crisis because you haven't got a crystal ball.
What we do know for sure, however, is that the current PM is an abject failure at absolutely everything and he should be made accountable. The fact that you think that Starmer would have been worse means absolutely nothing and it's a distraction from the failures of the current cabal of corrupt and inept tory scum.
You're welcome.
My alternative explanation for why the classic symptoms have not been updated is the government is happy for natural immunity to be boosted in the wake of the virus spreading. A logical strategy given that the pressure on the NHS is being contained and winter is coming (get this over with as quick as possible)?
I’ve had the same thought
Correct!
Data also shows that if you have recovered and had an immune response and then get the vaccine you are at higher risk of adverse events as a result
@@pabs5581 correct Israel is massive proof now the vaccine is doing more harm then good , only the elderly and vulnerable should even consider these jabs , crazy for anyone else to take them and going to cause big problem!
Didn't Johnson already state this when he opened the UK back up and removed restrictions because he didn't want to 'wait until winter when the virus would be more destructive'. That was his call for herd immunity attempts either natural or vaccinated. Not that either has particularly worked at reducing transmission 🤣
Caught C-19 last Dec. 4 days of sniffles, back at the gym a week later. Been taking Zinc, Quercetin and D3 daily. 18mg Ivermectin weekly since Feb. Feeling great. Zero issues. Life as normal.👍
How dare you recover from covid-19 so quickly by using safe medication and supplements backed by science. How very dare you!
Did you have a test to confirm C-19 last December.
@@phildiamo3771 those tests can't tell you anything.
@@phildiamo3771 Yep!👍
I find the differences in the apparently differing definitions of ‘natural immunity’ very confusing. When I first researched it, I understood that ‘natural’ (aka ‘innate’) immunity is what you have at birth and that thereafter, it is called ‘acquired’ immunity. But some of the experts, including Tim here, seem to use. ‘natural immunity’ and ‘’immunity through natural infection’ interchangeably?
Innate immunity deniers !
naturally acquired immunity, we are talking about obviously
no one talks about the innate immune system because... well, politics
Tim is talking about acquired natural immunity here. I.e immunity that has been acquired by natural infection. He compares it to vaccine acquired immunity and immunity acquired from natural infection followed by vaccine. The latter appears the strongest.
by taking a vaccination after already developing an adaptive immune response to the virus, the immune system will preferentially react with a D-T-B cell sequence to the s-specific type antigens, essentially nullifying the benefit of naturally acquired immunity to the 20+ viral proteins obtained previously, and leaving the vaccinee more exposed to the effects of antigenic drift that is currently occurring
@@jameshunt6426 sounds good. I had it last year with very mild symptoms and got the jab this year.
So glad I have you talking completely honestly each week and that you show how the gov doesn’t want to tell it as it truly is. Thank you .
I've been wondering if our snobbish public health officials in the States are dismissing your data for some stupid reason. I would have thought this study was more than large enough to be reliable, but we've seen other data dismissed so I can't rule it out. I appreciate your hard work, and everyone's taking the time to provide the basic data to keep others updated. And of course, I'm sharing this information to keep as many people informed as I can. Just wish our governments took the team's work more seriously.
What do you mean? What would you have them do with symptom tracker data from the UK?
The CDC COVID symptoms list includes all of these except sneezing.
BTW: There's a difference between the most common symptoms and the most useful diagnostic symptoms. For example, headaches are a very common COVID symptom, but since they are so common normally, they have extremely little value in determining if someone has COVID.
Thank you as always for the update and for the work you all continue to do on our behalf.
You are respected and appreciated
Thank you
No vaccination :65% protection. ( it,s all about relative risk reduction )That was the previous benchmark for most vaccinations!! Just love the way Tim doesn,t see this. Are we blindly heading to multiple annual Covid vacccinations - for all over 65s, over 59s. Bio n tech working on new variant vaccines even while we observe the ‘symptoms’ becoming more like the common cold. ….. Keep your eyes open when you cross the road.
Ask why the touted benefit of mRNA vaccines was that they could be re-engineered very quickly for specific variants (a reason why they were originally developed in an attempt to combat cancer). BioNTech came up with their vaccine very quickly following the release for the Wuhan genetic code. Yet we have not seem any similar rapid development and release of a Delta specific vaccine. Of course, that could reduce the scope for boosters...
@@originalkk882 to be fair, they are working on other AZ options - now in development.
No vaccination + already had Covid-19 = 65% protection.
We started early and our vaccine effectiveness is waning
Still, I think it was a good idea to start it off last winter
You are 66% more likey to catch covid,if you've been vaccinated-recent data.Of course,sickness is still likely to be less sever.However,some highly reliable sources are saying vax related deaths in the states are around onehundred fifty thousand
Thanks Tim, very informative as ever. Had my third primary dose today as an immunosuppressed kidney transplant recipient
Glad you've had your 3rd dose 👍. I've caught it without getting mine. It's taught me something. My doctor's are absolute shite. 119 is shite 111 are very good & oximeter home help are brilliant. My doctor's haven't helped me once when I've been struggling to breathe. Disgusting
People with immunosuppressed problems should not be jabbed with this crap.
@@marilynshepherd6480 Agree. At 76, immunosuppressed, I didn't get it. I had a difficult time with cancer and particularly bone strengthening treatments as I have ME and had to decline. I had Covid and recovered fairly quickly. But then I have a good doctor of environmental medicine.
@@marilynshepherd6480 follow the science!
@@marilynshepherd6480 Yes we should. It actually improved my Long Covid symptoms. Gross to tell others what to with their body.
No wonder the PM has stopped doing his briefings- these numbers showing us falling behind Europe are very worrying
It’s actually because we have not been vaccinating children in the way many European countries have.
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According to bj if we was part of the ema we would still be in lockdown, and people stupidly believe him.
Embarrassing more like
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I am double-vaccinated. PCR test taken 11days ago prior to admission to (private) hospital was negative, followed by strict self-isolation until admission. Routine day-5 PCR = positive result. Day 7 PCR and LFT = negative. Where does that leave me?
Was the Day-5 a ‘false positive’? What is the incidence of ‘false positives?’
Keep up the good work with Zoe!
Basically proves the test's aren't fit for purpose!
I am double - vaccinated (Astra) but am completely floored by Covid which I caught through my teen who has bounced back beautifully. I am literally poleaxed by Covid and very scared now of long Covid or catching it again. Maybe I’m lucky not to be in hospital but what was the point of vaccination if I feel this poorly?
You haven't died though, so that is probably a good thing.
alan jenkins But would a younger person have faced that outcome? On a positive note the infection has built natural antibodies which should head off any further infection due to their more generalised nature.
Thanks both. Yes I am alive. But it is hell. I always did what I was told, took my medicine (vaccine x2) , wore my mask in enclosed spaces, took vitamin d , you name it etc etc. I’m not sure I’ll be bothered to get the flu jab or the booster from here on in because clearly- in my experience anyway- it does not make much difference. I am a very fit 50 year old. I work out, I’m slim, don’t smoke and have 4 boys who keep me very active but right now I feel about 100 years old and I can breathe yes but not without great effort & discomfort. So what was the point again? That I’m alive? Oh great…
@@alanjenkins1508 ,How do you know the vaccine isn't causing the virus to be more prevalent?. After all they were designed to specifically look for the covid 19 strain and not any variants.
That’s a shame I am sorry you feel so bad. Yes it feels a little bit like we have been sold a dud if we expected the vaccines to stop us getting really sick. However since Delta it appears it prevents hospitalisation and death for most folk - a good thing but being really unwell is no fun. Hope you feel better soon and your vaccines protect you from long covid.
Absolutely no way I'd be having a jab in both arms.
I got my flu jab already and will get the booster later. I'm glad I did it this way, I've got a sore arm.
Agreed.
@@starlinguk Me too - a huge red itchy swollen area about 6" diameter! Worst local reaction I've ever had to the flu jab - or any jab for that matter. Anyone know what causes this??
I agree. I am booked for both at same time and I am refusing the booster. If I have a reaction, I want to know which one caused it. Also I have had 2 Astrozenica jabs and they were planning to give me Pfizer. I DO NOT agree mixing the vax so I will refuse Pfizer regardless. I want Astrozenica booster or not at all. Feedback Tim please.
@@trishapowell9358 Good for you. Stick to your guns.
I suspect the vaccines offer little protection fullstop. The ONS issued data on deaths by vaccination status tom2 July. From 2 April to 2 July 67% of deaths were vaccinated people. No updates on the data so far…. If this is a disease of the immunocompromised, as is evident from the data from many countries, and the immunocompromised often do not get full benefits from a vaccine, then the issue is not vaccination levels of the total population but rather focused protection of the at risk. Why are you not discussing this?
why isn't every government in the world putting it into practice? The only disease eradicated by vaccine (to the best of our knowledge) is smallpox, which is held up as the gold standard. There the original intention was to reach 80% vax in the population but this was unworkable so they adopted a ring vax strategy, protecting the vulnerable and not allowing contact. In fact, wsn't this how the bubonic plague was dealt with in the days before modern medicine (I'm asking; I don't know for sure)? Why on earth have we not followed this model?
@@charlytaylor1748 indeed. The Great Barrington Declaration basically argued for this after wave 1. It is still necessary now as pushing this to endemic level, which is the only way out as the vaccines are not sterilising, means everyone will be exposed. Hopefully the vaccines really do imbue protection against a bad case but the level of vaccinated getting hospitalised and dying suggests they may not be working for all immunocompromised, which is in line with what vaccinologists would say (ie you need a health immune system to allow a vaccine to work properly). So possibly back to square one, the at risk are still at risk and the rest of us have had a medication we don’t need (some have had serious adverse events or died…) and Western government still deny those who do get ill potentially life saving early treatment regimens. It will be seen as the greatest public health travesty in a century or more.
@@adrianryan5654 Perhaps instead of just focussing on vaccines, more funding should have been given to treatments. I note both Merck and Pfizer have now seen $$$s in that and are trying to get "Pfizermectin" approved.
Why are there no studies that take naturally immune people into account? With 100s and thousands of cases daily, there would be a large number of NI people. Are they getting reinfection? Does NI wane? If so, how quickly? If so, what is the hospitalisation etc.etc.
Do you have a link to the data about protection from natural immunity. You tell that's 75%. I heared 99% from other sources. So I want to see the data. Thanks in advance!
It's his data, from the Zoe app. Straight from the horse's (scientists) mouth, as it were. From what he said last week it's a new analysis they were doing, so it won't be published for ages yet - publication process takes 2-3 months ish.
Juat vaxx up
My granddaughter has had two positive lateral flow tests and a negative PCR test. It is very confusing for the parents who do not know whether to send her to school or not.
My son 3 +lft. 3 -PCR - symptomatic - gp said covid, school happy for him to rejoin (he was too unwell though)
This may have been raised before, but another possible reason for govt not updating its symptom list is as follows: if you think you might have Covid and get a PCR test, you are required to self-isolate until the results come through IF you have symptoms on the govt's list. Since the vast majority will actually have a cold, this would lead to another pingdemic which the govt wants to avoid. Moreover, people would be less likely to even ask for a PCR test with a runny nose if they and their family would be locked up for 2-3 days, leading to under-reporting.
Good point. I've only just got my PCR positive result after trying to get one 6 days ago. The option for a drive through in my area has diminished. Nearest 20 miles away & when you're feeling awful & too poorly to drive, you have to go with the home test kit. That arrived 5 days ago but the barcode scanner refused to work. Once you begin to register your kit, you can't turn back, so it's not like I could've rang 119 for help. Had to reorder another. By the time that result came back, almost a week had gone & however important your job is, if it IS negative, that's a complete waste of time.
Egypt IS currently open to UK tourists Tim. If you have information to the contrary you should have posted a link.
Subject to requirements, double vax & quarantine.
Thank you Tim. Very helpful. I am double vaccinated with Pfizer and just got over a rough case of the Delta variant. Same with my partner. No idea how I got it. As I just had my second jab in august. I don’t go anywhere ..barely, and the only time I do I socially distance and wear a mask. I am also an athlete and am fit and healthy. The whole thing boggles my mind. Still reporting to Zoe.
Keep up the great work! Many blessings Xx
And did you go 18 months without being fully jabbed without catching it?
@@tabithatither2198 🎯 question!
@@tabithatither2198 No. I believe that my husband and I had it in March of 2020. Very fast and brutal infection while in London and following all of the masking and social distancing. It was mainly projectile vomiting and fever and headache at that time which the NHS did not acknowledge as Covid symptoms at the time.
There was no way to test us at the time as our GP was shut down and the nearest Chelsea Westminster hospital was overly full with dying patients.
@@PandaA-cv3mm hope you, your husband and partner are doing better now
How do you know it was the delta variant?
Why are different PCR magnification thresholds being used for different people? Why is everyone not tested at the same level of magnification? Why is the PCR test being used to diagnose infections in the first place?
Labs have tested goats, fruit, cola and even a puddle, just to name a few things....they all tested positive for 'C'. It's all madness. The PCR testing method is ridiculous, and the whole bloody thing relies on the data it produces. Anything tested over 27-30 cycles of magnification is useless data. Most are going 35-45 cycles around England.....that is simply ludicrous. The amount of false positives it produces and lives it affects makes the whole method redundant. You experts all know this. Yet you say nothing? It's like invasion of the body snatchers or something. I've never known such smart people to be so blinded to the truth of reality....its a scary sight. I hope for everyone's sake that you all snap out of this trance you seem to be in. Stop falling for the lies over and over again. Peoples lives are literally at stake and ingnorance to the facts is no excuse. God help you all.
Here is a simple fact from the W.H.O for you to put this 'deadly virus' into some sort of perspective...
The average annual global case rate for seasonal flu (for which cv19 is proven to be no worse) is 1 Billion cases. Now, compare that to the covid cases. End of.
How do you know which jab caused the headache?
Trust him he’s a doctor 🤔
He can't, unfortunately.
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@@hairyairey I agree. Luckily, it's a benign side effect, so not too big a deal.
@ZOE What are the symptoms of people being admitted to hospital?
There was a change in gov policy at start of term. if you have a parent or household member with covid, under 18s still go to school. School spread by design or incompetence????
Definitely design... easiest and arguably safest way to boost immunity in the school population.
Is there a petition someone can point me to that requests the government to officially adopt the Zoe symptoms?
We love you Tim but you have no way of knowing which vaccine is having which side-effect if you have them both at once.
I've had flu jabs for decades & have never had a side effect. Just a sore arm after 12 hours
Heard that kids with symptoms go to have a test but are told to them go back to school while waiting for the result! And we wonder why the rates are high.
Sorry Tim, I currently have a runny nose, headache, am sneezing, have a bit of a sore throat and cough, but if I were to put that on the Zoe app it would be a false infection. I have a cold, nothing more. Taken two lateral flow tests this week and both have been negative. Maybe others are reporting and are skewing the the Zoe data?
The gov should update their symptoms list, it's ridiculous, but there are enough asymptomatic cases to still drive infections. Regular testing no matter how you feel is important to stay ahead of it and I think people are just bored of that.
Thank you Tim for all your hard work. Totally with you on calling on the Government to account publicly on why the are NOT following the science. I could understand (if still not support) some scenarios for not publishing the better information on the symptoms, but to claim as they do that they follow the science and then blatantly ignore the science without acknowledging that or why is plain wrong. When I see medical facilities, dentists and care homes asking people if they currently have symptoms of CV, and quote only the original symptoms it makes me very concerned about how they think they are safeguarding the vulnerable or their own vital staff.
Is the reason why the government don't change the classic three symptoms due to the link to self isolation. The government web site says you should self isolate as soon as you have one of the three classic symptoms. If they extended the list to include headache, runny nose and sore throat people would have to self isolate with these conditions and that would have a huge impact on the numbers of people self isolating and being off work / school. They would therefore have to change the advice to have different actions for different symptoms. For example for symptoms of headache, runny nose and sore throat take a lateral flow test and if positive self isolate and get a PCR test.
I recently had a bad cold and because of Zoe was able to get a PCR test which was negative - so thank you Tim for your great work, your fantastic weekly updates and your book "Spoon Fed" which i have now read after seeing it every week on your bookshelf behind you !!
63% increase in adverse reactions in the young people in uk,,,,shocking
We have only just started vaccinating the young groups, so an uptick in adverse reactions is to be expected.
@@christopherrobinson7541 63% is NO UPTICK.
Let's not forget these alleged vaccines are in an EXPERIMENTAL TRIAL ON PEOPLE.
Data for Wales doesn’t seem to be up to date, cases seem fairly static on the daily PHW numbers.
Dr Been has just done another amazing video with Dr DeMello, well worth watching.
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Really good analysis from both Dr Been and Dr John Campbell. Also from Zoe data and Prof Spector reports. Interesting analysis of data from Merck on Molnupiravir, including some comparisons with Ivermectin. Bring on a proper study for comparison, and separately for Ivermectin for Long Covid.
@@deniseh32033 I saw the comparison and they are more different than I expected!
Too much misinformation from that channel
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Yes than I had been led to believe before I saw them, different mechanisms. Molnupirivir unlikely to work for Long Covid as I understand, but I could be wrong. These things need proper testing where the general evidence makes it worthwhile to do so for the greater good.
Thank you for another informative update Tim.
I’m not sure how all you scientists can just ignore the Covid statistics from the state of Uttar Pradesh in India. Their vaccination rate is less than a third of ours, they have high levels of overcrowding and poverty, a universal health system is not yet developed yet they have brought their Covid numbers down from the the hundreds of thousands to 20 today. Is it not part of scientific thinking to be at least curious?
Totally agree.
It seems not many are brave enough to speak of the drug that shall not be named. It is currently being researched in a UK trial but I fear they may have set it up to fail as it is being given up to 14 days into the infection. We know this is late.
I hope Tim and others get their big boy pants on and address the elephant in the room.
@@ajayray8814 wish there were more that did. Really do not understand what is going on.
Thanks for the update Tim.
Difficult to agree that the British Public are intelligent when travelling on crowded London overground services with more than 50% of passengers not wearing masks. In busy Tate Britain yesterday saw only two people without, in five hours. Art lovers more intelligent? Or the signs asking for masks to be worn?
So what if someone gets ill. It's not a killer. Only if you're sick. It's just such non news
Exactly the same observation yesterday! Art lovers perhaps have more imagination and consideration for the others?
40 years of scientific research has found that masks don't work .
@Neil Howells that's to cover themselves from the clueless ones who don't have the ability to put them on properly. It's why airplanes still have ashtrays in the toilets even though smoking is banned. A fire in the bin is much worse!
@@TheBarlby do you actually watch Tim Spector’s videos or are you so boring you’re just trying to spend your time being unpleasant? If you fancy a dose of long Covid, go ahead.
Thanks for the updates Tim, so informative.
One thing that might be useful to clarify is whether the 'new symptoms' are associated with Delta, irrespective of immunological status, or whether they are manifest mainly in the previously infected/vaccinated, with 'traditional' symptoms appearing in those with no prior immunity. I suspect the first, but am unsure.
Hello there, the top 5 symptoms shown in the video are for those with prior vaccination. We have a list of the top symptoms for the unvaccinated as well which you can read more about in our blog: covid.joinzoe.com/post/new-top-5-covid-symptoms
My partner and I had our flu jabs a few weeks ago now and he is getting his Covid booster tomorrow due to his workplace being a hospice. I was speaking to my local chemist who does all our vaccination and he reckons it will be around a month until I get my booster because its got to be at least 180 days after your last Covid vaccine, that sounds about right. I would have logged the flu ones too because we always get them too as I have asthma/COPD so have been getting the flu one annually for a decade. I think you maybe asked us about comorbidities at the beginning but cant remember for sure. I, for one, wouldnt mind giving info on comorbidities if its going to help in the long run. Thanks again Tim for always keeping us daily loggers in the loop. Like I said I am always willing to give any additional info to help with any of the studies you and your colleagues are doing. You may as well get as much as you can via the app (not that I am thinking of stopping.)
When the FDA gave Pfizer full approval, the vaccine efficacy was said to be in excess of 91%. However, Pfizer only used data up to 13th March 2021, ie before the Delta variant!!
Actually, Pfizer has not been granted FDA approval... still designated for EUA. The FDA authorized Comirity (BioNtech), which is not yet available in the states.
@@eileens4943
It’s the same vaccine!
Pfizer is 90% efficient against delta.
The delta variant has been used as an excuse by incompetent politicians. The same waves would in all likelihood have happened with any other variant.
@@Shelmerdine745 Then why did they extend the EUA for the one they are currently using?, they approved Comirnaty which you can't get in US currently but only granted an extension to the emergency status and the indemnity from prosecution EUA grants to the Pfizer jab that's currently being used. Seems a bit suspect if they are truly the same "vaccine".
@@eileens4943 Pfizer and Comirity are the exactly same thing. Comirity is what Pfizer is called in Europe.
Time to be looking at why the virus case rates have been behaving quite differently in in the various parts of the UK. Why the North East of England has remained stubbornly elevated since Delta arrived in May ? but caused a sharper peak in Scotland.
More social parts of the UK will have higher cases.
Love your info, but feel disturbed by your decision to get both flu and booster together is good for all because you didn’t have any problem with it. That doesn’t seem like a professional decision.
Mum's partner had both together 2 weeks ago. He's perfectly fine 👍
Had both no issues apart from a sore arm for few hours. There isnt a cure this is all we have
In my view govt can't change parameters( goalposts) for comparing this year to last 👍.
If upper resp tract unlikely to end up in hosp!
Adverse reactions are up63% in young people in UK,, office of national STATISTICS
Where did you find that? All I can find is the ONS quote "Of those who had experienced side effects and were still awaiting their second dose of a vaccine, 63% said the side effects would not affect their decision to get the second dose, and 35% were more likely to get the second dose."
Sweden and Denmark have stopped MODERNA VACCINE ROLLOUT TO UNDER 30 YEAR OLDS,due to serious adverse reactions
Doctor Robert MALONE, the inventor of THE MESSENGER RNA .has on record saying, DO NOT USE M-RNA VACCINES ON PEOPLE,,, WOW!
Got anything to back up your 63% claim then?
Dont be a child expecting to be spoon fed,,,,all info is available,,,RESEARCH, BE AMAZED
Thanks very much for keeping us updated
In the U.K. data study there were:
157,400 Delta variant cases amid the fully vaccinated (26.52% of total cases), and 257,357 Delta variant cases amid the unvaccinated (43.36% of total cases). However, when it came to severe outcomes 63.5% of deaths were from the fully vaccinated group
I doubt folks will believe IT!
Provide links to your sources, liar
There are more people who are fully vaccinated in the at-risk groups.
@@baraitalo So the vaccine doesn’t work. Got it
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And more young people in the unvaccinated group.
Tim, Why don't you make a bigger drive for the uptake of this app?? As a proportion of the UK population the coverage is tiny.
We don;t all want to live by app's.
All these kids getting natural immunity, great stuff. No need for a money making jab for them
Take your anti-vax nonsense somewhere else.
And getting Long Covid, with life long consequences.
Where did you get the data about other countries red-listing the UK? You specifically mentioned Finland, but neither I nor a friend who lives in Finland can find any mention of it on Finnish government websites. Their current rules are that if you have two vaccines more than 14 days ago, anyone can enter from anywhere, including the UK.
No sign of boosters yet in East Cheshire for the over 70s. How did Tim get his so soon?
He's a health care professional
My mum is due for her booster on Saturday 9th. Things are moving faster in London?
On the payroll
One elderly friend had his flu jab and Covid vaccine last week. Another is having their Covid jab today. They are mid & late 70s. Both live in N London.
Thank you Timagain very usefull and useful information as always.
About the natural immunity vs vaccine driven immunity: I did smile at the interpretation of the graph. My interpretation was actually that, given the final bar, there seems to be proportionally far less tangible benefit to having ANY vaccine when it comes to re-infection.
I think you will find that Tasmania also has restricted access for Brits, as it is part of Australia (it's the wee bit down underneath - lol - they have perpetual issues about being overlooked). Thanks for the solid info. From Oz (Victoria).
Yes, despite the UK government relaxing the UK's list of where it's citizens can travel to, they can't control which countries allow us Brits in. And because we no longer have any rules & the UK's been so relaxed since 19 July, alot of countries understandably still don't want us in.
Tim, I have had an unpleasant reaction to my two Astrazeneca jabs. I have an autoimmune gut-based problem and they have made me much more sensitive to foods, and made it necessary to restrict my diet further. I have two friends who have autoimmune problems whose symptoms have also been worsened - one with psoriasis and one with diverticulitis. If this is happening to just my group of friends, this must be a widespread problem, yet I've heard nothing about it. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for vaccines, but I won't be having a booster and i doubt my friends will either.
No - I think there are a lot of people who feel that two jabs was enough especially if you intend to have the flu jab as well.
Im a member of several thyroid groups. Underactive thyroid being an autoamune disease and many of us have had a terrible time after accepting a jab. From what I see, it seems folk who already had covid, and no matter ow mild, and then got jabbed are suffering these side effects. Sadly there's reluctance to officially report these effects.
@@maxinethirlwall8953 I have an underactive thyroid. Had the AZ. Had chills and headache after both doses but the second wasn't as bad as the first. What kind of side effects are people experiencing?
I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome one aspect of which is that I have diverticula throughout my whole gut. Nevertheless, none of my many symptoms were made worse by my jabs- I just had usual mild reaction. I am fortunate it seems. I assume that the risk of increased problems would be worse should I get full blown Covid. I had AZT.
@@jennyjewell5635 not necessarily.. I have auto immune issues( thyroid) and heart disease. I had covid in February. I never would have known if my husband hadn’t tested positive. I had mild cold symptoms. I was also afraid I would be a lot worse. So having underlying conditions doesn’t necessarily mean severe disease.
My, rather, your graph of UK Active Cases around 6:00 does not show Northern Ireland, Tim?
An unfortunate consequence of Brexit, it had to be towed in the Irish sea and sunk by the remaining Royal Navy coracle HMS Directionaless, sadly the last is her (wiggley) line.
I got a blood test done for antibodies,I had a double jab of AZ 6 months ago .
It seems it only tells me I have never had Covid but I am unclear if I have any protection left against the virus ?
It said no antibodies were detected.
T-cells remember about 10 years, so you are protected against severe illness.
Was it a test you paid for ? I think they take your money and put your sample straight in the bin.
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You don’t know that. Maybe he wasn’t infected.
The body sheds antibodies but T cells then come into play as they remember previous infections.
@@karstenburger9031 in that regard natural immunity from being already had the virus also has the same effect of T cells remembering about 10 years
I’m expecting mine shortly ,so thankyou 🙏🏻
Thank you for keeping us updated on a regular basis. It's still worrying now the winter is here as I am still vulnerable due to my health. I have concerns as not sure if I have long covid S not been well for over a year now. No one seems to know the cause. I've had several covid tests about ten now and each time negative. But still got the antibodies in my system for over a year now. Stay safe.
Hi, I'm confused by the travel section - you say you can't travel to lots of countries (I'm looking at Egypt in particular) however I cannot find any such info online, flights are running and all sites I've checked say there are no restrictions in place. Where have you got this information please?
But you said over 3 weeks ago cases would start to go down ...I've been waiting
He’s just keep the fear up
It's autumn now, winter coming. "Cases" won't be going down until spring as what happens naturally
@@dennispickard7743 speak English please.
Mark Courtney He is perpetuating fear, hence inducing an unhealthy level of totally unnecessary ‘ stress response ‘, which will ( and does ) damage the immune system.
Right ! off for tiffin and scones 👋
@@tabithatither2198 yes...I know that...but its what he said...so in that clip...he got it wrong....
I am surprised to hear that Tim Spector has had a booster. I am 73 and had my second jab on 21st April. I've had my flu jab but my surgery says they have no knowledge yet about doing boosters and are not doing any; but when you do get one it must be at least 6 months after your 2nd jab. Seems like very different experiences and roll out over the country. I'm in Nottinghamshire.
Why are you suprised? You're not due your booster yet, your 2nd jab wasn't over 6 months ago.
Which means you aren't due til October end
I went for my booster on Monday night and it was shocking the amount of people who had only had one shot and hadn't "got round" to sorting out a 2nd jab as they thought the pandemic was over because of the messages the government were putting out in relation to getting rid of masks/social distancing etc.
I agree, we can't blame people for thinking it is over when the media have stopped covering covid, the government don't wear masks and even Public Health England isn't advising simple measures.
How did you find that out when you went for another jab? How do you, or anyone else, know they just hadn't "got around to it"? Possibly they had a bad reaction? Or possibly they had had Covid and one dose of vaccine gave them maximum protection (per Israeli data)?
I have 2 family members who have neurological problems that are pointing at Covid as the culprit. My 52 year old brother and 30 year old son both have identical symptoms of paranoia and persecutory illusions. Both are first episode psychosis. Both have had 2 doses of Moderna. The neurologist is looking for seizures and encephalitis. The mri and ct scans are not showing anything. No tumors or bleeding. Both had severe psychosis and hallucinations of the government following them. They both think their neighbors are watching them and spreading rumors about them. My 30 year son lives in Los Angeles. My 52 year old younger brother lives in New York. They both ironically were put on the same meds. Lexipro and Benzodiazepine. They are not improving. We have no recollection of either actually having any other symptoms of having the Covid virus. We are very perplexed. How could this be possible? Apparently this type of long Covid is very rare.
I've literally had no reaction this time with the booster , unlike the first two where I had a headache for around 2wks after each injection.
Wow! Headaches for two weeks! I can't understand how that is regarded as acceptable. Even my covid only lasted five days.
Thanks Tessa for the update. On day 9 of covid. Not sure if the virus has left me yet but it's made me very ill. Had loads of other symptoms but the ones remaining today are chronic sinusitis, bad cough, chest infection, blood in what I'm blowing out, severe headache, crusting left eye, both eyes running, earache, photophobia, zero taste & zero smell. I think I'm having moderate covid, definitely not mild but still consider myself lucky
@@Pilky-Bs2Mc Honestly I get the impression covid is loads worse this year than when I got it a year ago.
Can you look at poorer countries with very little vaccination. Are coping
You HONESTLY think Covid passports are a proportionate response to the current levels?
They are not an appropriate response to any levels. Especially not with a leaky vaccine that does not stop infection, where the vaccinated have the same viral load as the unvaccinated, and can shed the virus at the same level. But such passports are not about public health. They are about control of society for an altogether different purpose.
They are a nudge to get more young people vaccinated.
Thanks for all your work. Very informative.
Surely the fact that infections in the unvaccinated are increasing and the majority of but death and hospitalization is reasonably low is a good thing , the more natural immunity around the better especially as it offers much greater protection than the vax . I’d say that’s good news .
I'll see how well natural protection works for me as that aswell as vaccines don't always work for everyone. I'm getting 2 antibody tests because I'm covid positive shortly & will find out if I've built immunity.
From the first chart at 02:05 it looks like the virus is becoming less ‘dangerous’ …
Jan 2021 daily cases in the unvaccinated 50,000 … daily deaths 1,000
Now … daily cases in the unvaccinated 30,000 … daily deaths 120
was never dangerous anyway unless you were over 80 with other medical issues
Yes - bear in mind the ‘unvaccinated cases’ in Tim’s graph are mostly school children too young to vaccinate who are at no risk from the disease anyway. The more they catch it and spread it around amongst their healthy friends, the better for herd immunity. All good.
@@brickmissing8295 ; Yes, You know that, I know that, and HE knows that … But he presents it so as to look like it’s unvaccinated adults who are causing the cases … He actually says “the unvaccinated population …”.
Then he gets loads of comments about his wonderful, clear explanations … when he is actually pulling the wool over their eyes … This is where we’ve got to now where you can’t even trust professors and doctors anymore.
Love your video reports. Also, I can't see flu vaccines are being recorded. Do you want to check your website?
Can they measure the fall off of the effectiveness of the first 2 jabs i.e do we risk the booster regardless of whether it gives any significant benefit (or even none at all)?
@@ricardodellecarta2414 Sorry, I could have been clearer.
Test show, I've currently got anti bodies. If next months test shows none, I'm likely to be motivated to have a booster. If they " measured" only a 5% drop I might decide to wait.
P.S. If things can't be analysed effectively how did you determine they were "tiny"?
@@ricardodellecarta2414 The only measures that matter are deaths and hospitalisations and these can both be measured accurately. ONS provide pretty comprehensive and accepted figures which are freely available to the public.
Relying on Companies or the Government to interpret these figures for you ......"Buyer beware" comes to mind!
@@ricardodellecarta2414 If that's your interpretation, be happy!
@@howardramsey7243 ‘The only measures that matter are deaths and hospitalisations’ Wow, you really don’t know the reality of Long Covid. There are some things worse than death. Being bed ridden for over a year, losing the ability to walk & work sure matters to me. It’s much easier to pretend ‘it won’t happen to you’ though.
@@EmilyWalters Sorry, not sure what point you're trying to make? I've not experienced the reality of adverse reactions to the jab either. It's not pretending anything, unfortunately everyone has to decide whether they want the jabs without knowing the ultimate outcome of that choice. Basically we're all hoping we make the right one!
Glad he is promoting vaccines