I'm not competent or knowledgeable enough to argue with any of your three key recommendations here - though maximum RAM and a high end Intel chip sound eminently sensible. As I begin to think about the possibility of video making and so editing I do, however, know that watching (and re-watching) your programmes and channel is a must and essential first step! Thanks.
I was using my 8700k for almost 4 years with igpu disabled. Yikes. Recently when I upgraded to nvidia gpu, I turned on the igpu in bios and everything feels a lot faster when video editing.
Good info, but if you use the proxies you can save a lot of money than buying 64GB of RAM etc... just my two cents. The proxies stay neat and connected to the original files and you can jump back and forth within PP to zoom in if you need. You can also use external hard drives - HHD with 7,200 RPM as your editing drives. I edit 4k footage off of these external hard drives and have not encountered issues.
9900k, rtx 2070, 64 gb .... work's for me perfect already 4 years, even with my gh6 10bit footage. I5 12 and 11gen. even if someone gives me for free I never put them in my comp.🙂
Nice video. Just FYI, you can edit on a PC with mac formatted drives using MacDrive 10. I edit on a PC but all of my other colleagues work on macs. We share projects all the time and I've never had any issues.
been following you for quite sometime and i think you need to spice up your thumbnails a bit as your video quality is very close to perfect but the thumbnails i think are lacking, altho im still here i keep watching your videos ....... good stuff
I've used macbook pros for years, but I think you just talked me out of blowing a huge chunk of my savings on an m1 max macbookpro. Slightly scared of going back to Windows though 😂😂
Is it better to go for Intel 12th gen or wait a bit longer for AMD 7000 series? I don't use any fancy codecs, just only HEVC cuz I use MotionArray and Envato where I use their templates to make fancy videos
Great video. I wanna start saving for a new machine just for work and I’ve been very confused about what’s better. In my experience, I’ve been working on a 2021 M1 MacBook Pro with 16gb of ram and everything it’s just super smooth (owned by the company, not mine) and recently got some extra work and for it I use my personal windows laptop with i5 10300h and thx 1650, same 16gb of ram. I understand that this laptop is way below the Mac it you can feel it, I have to use proxies with this one, but come on it should just be slower, not annoying. It has crashed almost the same times the last 5 days than the Mac in more than a year. Playback freezes with the proxies after some time and have to restart the program. I really don’t know if I just should add more ram to this laptop, at least 32gb, and idk because the Mac with 16gb is a beast with multiple browser tabs open, premiere, audition and even after effects. Source footage is iPhone in 4K h265 and proxies are pro res 222 at 720p. A couple links to After Effects for relatively simple text animations because I like them better than premiere’s.
Watched this video twice very helpfu! l have one question bruv; I have ThinkPad p15 gen 1 64GB RAM with T1000 QUADRO 4GB VRAM graphic card. how much of a noticeable difference would there be if i were to upgrade my card to RTX 4000 MAX-Q 8GB VRAM when using AI programs like topaz video ai at the moment i get 1.81 sec/frame
Great video, I just built a PC for Premiere with your recommendations (i9 12900k + RTX3080 12GB) now what are the best settings and settings in Premiere and on the PC (I only have IGPU enabled for now) to edit Panasonic video files 10bit 4: 2: 2? did you make a video about it?
once you said your video (10:20 do not buy intel chip with letter F in it) and then after you said (11:04 just get a non K chip) please explain what you mean which one is better e.g 11700 KF or 11700 K ?
This is a really interesting video. I was thinking about getting an AMD 5700G cpu but now I am thinking otherwise. Do you guys recommend to make a switch to an Intel CPU instead? If so, which is comparable in price and has the encoding features that @JSyntax talked about?
Halo. My question might sound dumb in fact i believe it is! but can I 4k edit with well built PC in my ultrawide 3440x1440 screen(I know its not 4k) , or the screen just wont be enough for illustrating 4k video?
I have a really old machine (i7 6850k, dual 1080ti, 16gb ram) I dont have as much money to spend on a pc, would it be better to buy 6 more sticks of ram (8x8gb 3200) or to upgrade my cpu and motherboard first?
Thanks for the information. Valuable. I must use a notebook computer, or better tablet as I am always on the go..... After watching a few videos I am still not sure if I can get a Windows notebook/ laptop / tablet that will out perform a Mac M1 notebook - O, I really want to stay down to 2kg / 4lbs too! :-) Appreciate any suggestions you might have :-)
Great video, I agree with you however one quick point... There is like a $20 App called NTFS for Mac that enables read/write of NTFS drives on a Mac. I am not sure if there's a performance hit on the drive, however, at least it enables you to be able to copy files from NTFS to Mac if need.
This is the entire issue i have with macOS though. So many features available in windows for free are a $20-$60 third party app because Apples only innovates forwards with new obscure features but doesn’t include great simple features from other OS.
Hello there, very informative video. Do you recommend going for the i5 13500? It has 14 core. Also the added igpu benefits. Or should I stick to 12600k?
I am still editing on my 4 cores intel i5 4430 cpu, I can tell you that quicksync has been a saving grace as adobe uses my hd 4600 for decoding my h.264 codec from my canon m50, while my cpu is left to do other task, and I do hardware encoding with my nvidia gtx 770, H.264, timeline is smooth when I am not doing crazy effects, but adobe hardware encoding has increase my export times significantly. I am thinking of building a new pc 2650v2, 32gb ram, rx 560 from aliexpress for davinci resolve, I am thinking of buying a new camera bmpcc 4k
@@JSyntax lol, I don't do long videos, I only shoot music videos and Short comedy videos. thanks for the advice, good to see people talking about video editing, everybody has gone crazy with gaming and mining. It's affecting the prices of gpu, but we still pushing, keep up the good work
I built an AMD 5950X (it was the hot sh*t a year and a half ago) and NVIDIA 1080Ti (from another machine) and the 1080Ti does the encoding and decoding very effectively. But a VERY LIMITED number of codecs - because of Premiere - mostly 8bit (4:2:0) and10bit codecs are limited, mostly H.265 4:2:0. The 11th-13th gen Intel Chip's Quick Sync will encode/decode 10bit 4:2:2 in Premiere, but I don't have it on my AMD. NVIDIA is a no-go with everything else, and Apple M1 supposedly does it ALL with hardware, and that's where PCs get SPANKED by Apple. I've been SERIOUSLY considering a base Mac Studio for Premiere, since it's now optimized for Apple silicon. But do I wanna drop TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS because Premiere is finicky ... hell no.
@@JSyntax Agreed, and so does Puget systems ... but I think I'm gonna start using 480p h.264 proxies. I did a test yesterday, and my project was SOOOO easy to work with! Why didn't I do this LONG ago??? LOL!
This was the most helpful video when i was shopping for a new PC so I can commit to more video editing. albeit mostly 720-1080p, I want to be able to do more later on. I hope to actually be making money off of video editing one day and hopefully be doing it for a living. I currently use a 1080 on a Ryzen 1700X with 16GB RAM. So I finally bought and have a 3080 TI and an i7 12700K with 64GB of 4000mhz RAM. Had an issue getting the other parts so the other parts are just sitting here for now. A seller on NE voided my PSU order after I made an inquiry asking why it was still processing after 5 days, *I was angry*. But again, thank you for this video.
Great stuff!! Some say AMD is the way to go if you have Black Magic Raw files and or RED raw files- and they say -Intel for h.264 dslr footage etc. would you agree with that?
Hi I am starting to learn premiere pro but need help to find which desktop hardware to buy on ebay that is not too expensive. I am not doing any 4k so a simple 1080p will do.
Brilliant test and info! Thanks! This is what I have been looking for someone who edits longer timelines! I got 90 min plus times in 1080. I guess I need to get more ram than 16gb.
This is a very useful video that contains a lot of useful info(*) and explains straight to the point with no beating around the bush. A lot of tubers suffer from the latter too much waffle and not much substance cos they lack knowledge. Don't buy Apple products the company is filled with managers who think they charge you like a bull or in other words a rip-off merchant. I never own a NEW Apple product only buying 2nd hand ones just to test/check them out for fun or learning. * you are right Tech Notice and a few others also recommend using the NON-F version of 12th gen of Intel CPU.
Great video! I realize this is a year old, but with the M2 chips out now, Macs are blowing PCs out of the water when it comes to stability in Premiere Pro. I've been in Premiere on a $5K laptop workstation and while it can churn out the renders in record time, the overall experience in Premiere is awful. I'm about to throw it out the window. 😂 Mostly Adobe's fault but what can you do. I'm going to pick up a M2 Mac Mini pretty soon here and report back on it's performance.
I'm thinking of getting 12700 non K with a budget and PL unlocked b660 mobo. Hardware Unboxed showed it's only 5 percent slower than 12700k and well if I want to get K chip then adding mobo cost and cpu premium it's almost 220$. Do you think I'm doing better with 12700? I'll edit smartphone 4k footage so will get 32gb ram only. 16×2. I'll buy another kit if I feel the need.
I have a question. What about After effects? I use an Alienware R5 laptop with GTX 1080, 32 Gb RAM, Intel i9-8950HK-2.9HHz. My after effects is utterly useless. Dynamic linking is almost unworkable during editing. Give me the best solution for CPU, RAM and GPU for a PC build. Great video from an actual creator!
Excellent points, I use both Mac and PC, I agree 100% you statements, as I tried editing on an external drive on my Mac M1, it worked pretty good, the same process on a windows machine with MV
I5 12400 with Rtx 3060 OR I7 12700 with Rtx 3050 OR i5 12600k with rtx 2060? Which combination will you suggest for 4K video editing on premiere pro as well as da vinci?
Hey @Jsyntax How does Adobe Premiere Pro perform with only the 12th gen Intel CPU i5/i7 + iGPU, without a dedicated Nvidia GPU? Because I want to start editing and buy a dedicated Nvidia GPU when I can get my hands on a decently priced GPU. But for the time being I want to buy an intel and use the integrated graphics to edit my 4K DJI drone footage. My 4th gen i7 and R9 290 is too outdated te be used for premiere pro.
Hey j great video comparison new sub !!! i have a question im having trouble understanding why my h.264 clip is choppy with a 3090 pc with 64 ram 16 cores and cant playback 4k 60 smoothly i use davinci studio which utilizes my gpu theres no way that should be a struggle when the m1 macs can handle it with no problem please help!
@@JSyntax because your cpu id decoding it. Tech notice recently made a video where he showed how 5950X timeline is choppy but 12600k isn't. It's because of intel quick sync video
@@JSyntax I need help deciding! Racking my brain between the new M1Pro/Max Mac Mini that’s fixing to drop on March 8th and building a Intel 12th Gen i5-12600k or Ryzen 9 5950X system. Too many choices! I’ve been Apple most of my life and I’m concerned about the lack of upgradability that they stress going forward, so I’m kinda ruling them out I guess. Just torn with which way I should go. Budget is $1200 or thereabouts.
![Do FASTER SSDs Make Your Editing SMOOTHER on Premiere Pro? [Bottlenecks in Premiere PRO]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zFnoZUjcHIc/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm not competent or knowledgeable enough to argue with any of your three key recommendations here - though maximum RAM and a high end Intel chip sound eminently sensible. As I begin to think about the possibility of video making and so editing I do, however, know that watching (and re-watching) your programmes and channel is a must and essential first step! Thanks.
is this why editing lumix footage on my budget amd build (r5 2600 + 1660super)was a nightmare?
I am going to just say from experience.......a 5950x CPU and a 4070 GPU are INSANELY GOOD for premier pro or Rush.
I was using my 8700k for almost 4 years with igpu disabled. Yikes. Recently when I upgraded to nvidia gpu, I turned on the igpu in bios and everything feels a lot faster when video editing.
Good info, but if you use the proxies you can save a lot of money than buying 64GB of RAM etc... just my two cents. The proxies stay neat and connected to the original files and you can jump back and forth within PP to zoom in if you need. You can also use external hard drives - HHD with 7,200 RPM as your editing drives. I edit 4k footage off of these external hard drives and have not encountered issues.
Fair enough but it's an extra stop in my float
Even clog 10bit 422?
9900k, rtx 2070, 64 gb .... work's for me perfect already 4 years, even with my gh6 10bit footage. I5 12 and 11gen. even if someone gives me for free I never put them in my comp.🙂
Nice video. Just FYI, you can edit on a PC with mac formatted drives using MacDrive 10. I edit on a PC but all of my other colleagues work on macs. We share projects all the time and I've never had any issues.
I've also used paragon for years which works on Mac and PC - It enables you to read all drives however they're formatted
been following you for quite sometime and i think you need to spice up your thumbnails a bit as your video quality is very close to perfect but the thumbnails i think are lacking, altho im still here i keep watching your videos ....... good stuff
Thank you for your feedback
I've used macbook pros for years, but I think you just talked me out of blowing a huge chunk of my savings on an m1 max macbookpro. Slightly scared of going back to Windows though 😂😂
It's tough but you'll be good
adobe works better on windows
Is it better to go for Intel 12th gen or wait a bit longer for AMD 7000 series? I don't use any fancy codecs, just only HEVC cuz I use MotionArray and Envato where I use their templates to make fancy videos
12th gen is good for hevc!
First
DaVinci Resolve.... Studio version.... and 1660 ti & i7 4790 32GB
Great video. I wanna start saving for a new machine just for work and I’ve been very confused about what’s better. In my experience, I’ve been working on a 2021 M1 MacBook Pro with 16gb of ram and everything it’s just super smooth (owned by the company, not mine) and recently got some extra work and for it I use my personal windows laptop with i5 10300h and thx 1650, same 16gb of ram. I understand that this laptop is way below the Mac it you can feel it, I have to use proxies with this one, but come on it should just be slower, not annoying. It has crashed almost the same times the last 5 days than the Mac in more than a year. Playback freezes with the proxies after some time and have to restart the program. I really don’t know if I just should add more ram to this laptop, at least 32gb, and idk because the Mac with 16gb is a beast with multiple browser tabs open, premiere, audition and even after effects.
Source footage is iPhone in 4K h265 and proxies are pro res 222 at 720p. A couple links to After Effects for relatively simple text animations because I like them better than premiere’s.
Watched this video twice very helpfu!
l have one question bruv;
I have ThinkPad p15 gen 1 64GB RAM with T1000 QUADRO 4GB VRAM graphic card.
how much of a noticeable difference would there be if i were to upgrade my card to RTX 4000 MAX-Q 8GB VRAM
when using AI programs like topaz video ai at the moment i get 1.81 sec/frame
looks good! get a nvidia card!
Great video, I just built a PC for Premiere with your recommendations (i9 12900k + RTX3080 12GB) now what are the best settings and settings in Premiere and on the PC (I only have IGPU enabled for now) to edit Panasonic video files 10bit 4: 2: 2? did you make a video about it?
once you said your video (10:20 do not buy intel chip with letter F in it)
and then after you said (11:04 just get a non K chip)
please explain what you mean
which one is better e.g 11700 KF or 11700 K ?
This is a really interesting video. I was thinking about getting an AMD 5700G cpu but now I am thinking otherwise. Do you guys recommend to make a switch to an Intel CPU instead? If so, which is comparable in price and has the encoding features that @JSyntax talked about?
Halo. My question might sound dumb in fact i believe it is! but can I 4k edit with well built PC in my ultrawide 3440x1440 screen(I know its not 4k) , or the screen just wont be enough for illustrating 4k video?
I have a really old machine (i7 6850k, dual 1080ti, 16gb ram) I dont have as much money to spend on a pc, would it be better to buy 6 more sticks of ram (8x8gb 3200) or to upgrade my cpu and motherboard first?
Thanks for the information. Valuable. I must use a notebook computer, or better tablet as I am always on the go..... After watching a few videos I am still not sure if I can get a Windows notebook/ laptop / tablet that will out perform a Mac M1 notebook - O, I really want to stay down to 2kg / 4lbs too! :-) Appreciate any suggestions you might have :-)
Great video, I agree with you however one quick point... There is like a $20 App called NTFS for Mac that enables read/write of NTFS drives on a Mac. I am not sure if there's a performance hit on the drive, however, at least it enables you to be able to copy files from NTFS to Mac if need.
Very good tip
This is the entire issue i have with macOS though. So many features available in windows for free are a $20-$60 third party app because Apples only innovates forwards with new obscure features but doesn’t include great simple features from other OS.
What’s your opinion on the Nvidia Quadro P6000 for Adobe premiere and a none gamer ?
Awesome tips!
thank you!
Is 13500 + 2060 +32GB DDR4 CL18 still okay to edit 1080p?
Hello there, very informative video. Do you recommend going for the i5 13500? It has 14 core. Also the added igpu benefits. Or should I stick to 12600k?
Thank bro, u help me a lot, but wich graphics card do you suggestions 3000 family ? Should i get 3060 for 12 giga of v ram or 3070 8 giga of v ram ?
3070 or 4070
I am still editing on my 4 cores intel i5 4430 cpu, I can tell you that quicksync has been a saving grace as adobe uses my hd 4600 for decoding my h.264 codec from my canon m50, while my cpu is left to do other task, and I do hardware encoding with my nvidia gtx 770, H.264, timeline is smooth when I am not doing crazy effects, but adobe hardware encoding has increase my export times significantly. I am thinking of building a new pc 2650v2, 32gb ram, rx 560 from aliexpress for davinci resolve, I am thinking of buying a new camera bmpcc 4k
No 64gb?
@@JSyntax lol, I don't do long videos, I only shoot music videos and Short comedy videos. thanks for the advice, good to see people talking about video editing, everybody has gone crazy with gaming and mining. It's affecting the prices of gpu, but we still pushing, keep up the good work
Tip #5 ENCODE ALL FOOTAGE TO PRORES
I built an AMD 5950X (it was the hot sh*t a year and a half ago) and NVIDIA 1080Ti (from another machine) and the 1080Ti does the encoding and decoding very effectively. But a VERY LIMITED number of codecs - because of Premiere - mostly 8bit (4:2:0) and10bit codecs are limited, mostly H.265 4:2:0. The 11th-13th gen Intel Chip's Quick Sync will encode/decode 10bit 4:2:2 in Premiere, but I don't have it on my AMD.
NVIDIA is a no-go with everything else, and Apple M1 supposedly does it ALL with hardware, and that's where PCs get SPANKED by Apple. I've been SERIOUSLY considering a base Mac Studio for Premiere, since it's now optimized for Apple silicon. But do I wanna drop TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS because Premiere is finicky ... hell no.
I still think the new intel chips are better for premiere, for apple Mac, go for final cut pro or da Vinci resolve
@@JSyntax Agreed, and so does Puget systems ... but I think I'm gonna start using 480p h.264 proxies. I did a test yesterday, and my project was SOOOO easy to work with! Why didn't I do this LONG ago??? LOL!
Thank you!
This was the most helpful video when i was shopping for a new PC so I can commit to more video editing. albeit mostly 720-1080p, I want to be able to do more later on. I hope to actually be making money off of video editing one day and hopefully be doing it for a living. I currently use a 1080 on a Ryzen 1700X with 16GB RAM. So I finally bought and have a 3080 TI and an i7 12700K with 64GB of 4000mhz RAM. Had an issue getting the other parts so the other parts are just sitting here for now. A seller on NE voided my PSU order after I made an inquiry asking why it was still processing after 5 days, *I was angry*. But again, thank you for this video.
Thank you for your kind words
Great stuff!! Some say AMD is the way to go if you have Black Magic Raw files and or RED raw files- and they say -Intel for h.264 dslr footage etc. would you agree with that?
Hi I am starting to learn premiere pro but need help to find which desktop hardware to buy on ebay that is not too expensive. I am not doing any 4k so a simple 1080p will do.
Brilliant test and info! Thanks! This is what I have been looking for someone who edits longer timelines! I got 90 min plus times in 1080. I guess I need to get more ram than 16gb.
Indeed!
This is a very useful video that contains a lot of useful info(*) and explains straight to the point with no beating around the bush. A lot of tubers suffer from the latter too much waffle and not much substance cos they lack knowledge.
Don't buy Apple products the company is filled with managers who think they charge you like a bull or in other words a rip-off merchant.
I never own a NEW Apple product only buying 2nd hand ones just to test/check them out for fun or learning.
* you are right Tech Notice and a few others also recommend using the NON-F version of 12th gen of Intel CPU.
Great video! I realize this is a year old, but with the M2 chips out now, Macs are blowing PCs out of the water when it comes to stability in Premiere Pro. I've been in Premiere on a $5K laptop workstation and while it can churn out the renders in record time, the overall experience in Premiere is awful. I'm about to throw it out the window. 😂 Mostly Adobe's fault but what can you do. I'm going to pick up a M2 Mac Mini pretty soon here and report back on it's performance.
I think PC's (not laptops) still do well with premiere pro, so long you have a 10th gen i7 or above
@@JSyntax would love to know what the equivalent for Ryzen would be.
I'm thinking of getting 12700 non K with a budget and PL unlocked b660 mobo.
Hardware Unboxed showed it's only 5 percent slower than 12700k and well if I want to get K chip then adding mobo cost and cpu premium it's almost 220$.
Do you think I'm doing better with 12700? I'll edit smartphone 4k footage so will get 32gb ram only. 16×2. I'll buy another kit if I feel the need.
7:08
I have a question. What about After effects? I use an Alienware R5 laptop with GTX 1080, 32 Gb RAM, Intel i9-8950HK-2.9HHz. My after effects is utterly useless. Dynamic linking is almost unworkable during editing. Give me the best solution for CPU, RAM and GPU for a PC build. Great video from an actual creator!
64 gb ram, i7 12700k
@@JSyntax GPU?
So what’s the price tag as of June 2022? Or even when this vid was made.
Excellent points, I use both Mac and PC, I agree 100% you statements, as I tried editing on an external drive on my Mac M1, it worked pretty good, the same process on a windows machine with MV
Well said!
Блин чувак, во всем ютубе ты обьяснил этим парням что АМД не подходит для Премьер Про! Спасибо!
Da!
@@JSyntax yeah)
I5 12400 with Rtx 3060 OR I7 12700 with Rtx 3050 OR i5 12600k with rtx 2060? Which combination will you suggest for 4K video editing on premiere pro as well as da vinci?
12700k
@@JSyntax So the rtx 3050 will be good enough for da vinci resolve 4k?
Do you think i5 12600k with igpu for quick sync is better than i7 12700kf with more than 2 pcores but without quicksync?
I'd make sure to get non f, ie with onboard gpu for video editing!
Thank you so much for this informative video!
very good
Thank you! Cheers!
I noticed you talked about premier what about after effects and davinci ?
After affects will be similar! Can't be sure for non Adobe products
Hey @Jsyntax How does Adobe Premiere Pro perform with only the 12th gen Intel CPU i5/i7 + iGPU, without a dedicated Nvidia GPU? Because I want to start editing and buy a dedicated Nvidia GPU when I can get my hands on a decently priced GPU. But for the time being I want to buy an intel and use the integrated graphics to edit my 4K DJI drone footage. My 4th gen i7 and R9 290 is too outdated te be used for premiere pro.
BTW, I am talking about 4k 10bit H265 unfortunately
It's pretty good but I can't confirm for that codec unfortunately. Sounds like a fancier camera
Hey j great video comparison new sub !!! i have a question im having trouble understanding why my h.264 clip is choppy with a 3090 pc with 64 ram 16 cores and cant playback 4k 60 smoothly i use davinci studio which utilizes my gpu theres no way that should be a struggle when the m1 macs can handle it with no problem please help!
I use premiere pro so I can't be sure
@@JSyntax because your cpu id decoding it. Tech notice recently made a video where he showed how 5950X timeline is choppy but 12600k isn't. It's because of intel quick sync video
What type of footage is on your timeline?? BMPCC raw files/ RED RAW files??
Agreeed...just got 12900k
Hell ya! Beast mode.
This helped me a lot!
Thank you!
Lots of very useful info! Fixing to order my rig for 4K editing!
What are you getting!
@@JSyntax I need help deciding! Racking my brain between the new M1Pro/Max Mac Mini that’s fixing to drop on March 8th and building a Intel 12th Gen i5-12600k or Ryzen 9 5950X system. Too many choices! I’ve been Apple most of my life and I’m concerned about the lack of upgradability that they stress going forward, so I’m kinda ruling them out I guess. Just torn with which way I should go. Budget is $1200 or thereabouts.
Great video. Low views 😢
Agreed