I like the idea of combining both parts of the strategy. If you bet $50 on the 4/10 and $66 inside with $15 Come bet, you would have all the action of the second part with the zing of the 4/10, which you could reduce to $15 when hit
I've used something similar to this when the table is "cool". The difference is that rather than continuing to chase the long roll with continuous come bets, I do Don't Come Bets. If you aren't getting long rolls, this lets you potentially catch the front side rolls (same hope of catching a 4 or 10 early and making an inside wager) but then start making Don't Come bets in anticipation of a 7 arriving shortly. In my experience you see a lot more short to med rolls then you do long monsters. Good video, I love the strategy comparisons you do at the end with DICERIO. It would be a lot of work but would be a very interesting video if there was a cumulative spreadsheet showing ALL the strategies results being run against each roll set you have done over the course of all the videos. It should flush out exactly WHICH strategy is the King Of The Hill.
Thanks for all the vids, I'm coming up with my own strategy and test it out on your live rolls, it does pretty good so far, maybe I'll share it one day
So, as soon as I saw what the plan was I went and played it on a simulator game but scaled up to $25 just to get a "feel" for it. It was awful, and I quickly went down 1200 in my "bankroll" before getting a 4/10 hit. THEN I had "shooter" go about 40 rolls with only one seven on a comeout in the middle. Without pressing, just riding out 160 across and gained back 800 before big red came. That's the best run I've seen playing these sims. Timing is everything. Now have another strategy to mix in when I have some depth to bankroll (if ever that really happens). Thanks-now I'll go see how you roll it. Oh wait, I didn't have the whole strategie. Now I can try it again--and have two versions of it.
Really enjoy hearing about your different versions. I’m going through a medical issue right now so I can’t get to a casino but I like listening to the ones that you got how successful are they? I don’t know that’s why it’s called gambling.
Once you lost those 3 7 outs and were down $600, I knew your chances of coming back were almost zero. Hitting a 4 or 10 you rack $100 but still have to make up $500. That's over 12 hits before a 7. Good luck.
1. Only gamble this strategy where you pay the vig only after the 4/10 wins. 2. Always make the 4/10 work on all front line comeouts. Twice you threw a 4/10 on the comeout just before the PSO. You could have broke even instead of losing $200 each. Even after your front line comeout 7 you still left $200 on the table. 3. Always make place/odds work on all front line comeouts. The odds are always 4 to 1 in your favor of throwing a # vs a 7. Once again you needlessly left good $ on the table. 4. Agree?
1. Agree if at all possible. So states you just can’t find. 2. Hindsight. Just as easily rolled comeout 7s and lose these bets. Mathematically makes no difference working comeout or waiting. Always 1 in 6 chance of seven. 3. See above #2
I definitely like this strategy EXCEPT INSTEAD of placing the come bets every time, I would just do a collect first then PRESS for every 2nd hit of a number from the place bets until the seven shows, and then just KEEP doing this every time! Also, IF you're gonna use the COME bet strategy WITH the Place bets, then you SHOULD just put out a MEASLEY $3 bet EVERY time for the Come bets OR if you're gonna use a Pass line bet so you DON'T LOSE that $60 that you did by NOT protecting your COME bets!!! Had you did what I suggested, you would be $24 AHEAD INSTEAD of $60 DOWN!!!! And the argument i will SUCCESSFULLY MAKE for this point is that as SOON as you hit either a Place bet or COME bet number you have up there, it will EASILY REPLACE the $3 that was lost once a point gets established FROM the COME bets that you were protecting!!!
Why do players always ruin it by taking their wins to bet across? Stop trying to bet on every number. More targets gives you more chances to win, but you are picking up nickels in front of a steamroller.
I like the idea of combining both parts of the strategy. If you bet $50 on the 4/10 and $66 inside with $15 Come bet, you would have all the action of the second part with the zing of the 4/10, which you could reduce to $15 when hit
I've used something similar to this when the table is "cool". The difference is that rather than continuing to chase the long roll with continuous come bets, I do Don't Come Bets. If you aren't getting long rolls, this lets you potentially catch the front side rolls (same hope of catching a 4 or 10 early and making an inside wager) but then start making Don't Come bets in anticipation of a 7 arriving shortly. In my experience you see a lot more short to med rolls then you do long monsters. Good video, I love the strategy comparisons you do at the end with DICERIO. It would be a lot of work but would be a very interesting video if there was a cumulative spreadsheet showing ALL the strategies results being run against each roll set you have done over the course of all the videos. It should flush out exactly WHICH strategy is the King Of The Hill.
Hmm, 🤔 I like the spreadsheet idea. I wonder if there is something I could do. I’ll look into that.
Thanks for all the vids, I'm coming up with my own strategy and test it out on your live rolls, it does pretty good so far, maybe I'll share it one day
I like this but I would use place bets and press/collect instead of the come bet. Nice vid as always.
So, as soon as I saw what the plan was I went and played it on a simulator game but scaled up to $25 just to get a "feel" for it.
It was awful, and I quickly went down 1200 in my "bankroll" before getting a 4/10 hit.
THEN I had "shooter" go about 40 rolls with only one seven on a comeout in the middle. Without pressing, just riding out 160 across and gained back 800 before big red came. That's the best run I've seen playing these sims. Timing is everything. Now have another strategy to mix in when I have some depth to bankroll (if ever that really happens). Thanks-now I'll go see how you roll it.
Oh wait, I didn't have the whole strategie. Now I can try it again--and have two versions of it.
Really enjoy hearing about your different versions. I’m going through a medical issue right now so I can’t get to a casino but I like listening to the ones that you got how successful are they? I don’t know that’s why it’s called gambling.
Get well, fight for your health!
Nahhhhh….not trying to start my strategy on 4 & 10.
It’s unique approach
maybe start with $240 inside then after a hit take the bets down & go $60 on 4 & $60 on 10
Me either. On the Don't only on 4-10
Once you lost those 3 7 outs and were down $600, I knew your chances of coming back were almost zero. Hitting a 4 or 10 you rack $100 but still have to make up $500. That's over 12 hits before a 7. Good luck.
1. Only gamble this strategy where you pay the vig only after the 4/10 wins.
2. Always make the 4/10 work on all front line comeouts. Twice you threw a 4/10 on the comeout just before the PSO. You could have broke even instead of losing $200 each. Even after your front line comeout 7 you still left $200 on the table.
3. Always make place/odds work on all front line comeouts. The odds are always 4 to 1 in your favor of throwing a # vs a 7. Once again you needlessly left good $ on the table.
4. Agree?
1. Agree if at all possible. So states you just can’t find.
2. Hindsight. Just as easily rolled comeout 7s and lose these bets. Mathematically makes no difference working comeout or waiting. Always 1 in 6 chance of seven.
3. See above #2
I like the 96 across with 15 come bets without the 4 and 10 at the start. Maybe I'll try that but only do $50 on 4 and 10
I definitely like this strategy EXCEPT INSTEAD of placing the come bets every time, I would just do a collect first then PRESS for every 2nd hit of a number from the place bets until the seven shows, and then just KEEP doing this every time!
Also, IF you're gonna use the COME bet strategy WITH the Place bets, then you SHOULD just put out a MEASLEY $3 bet EVERY time for the Come bets OR if you're gonna use a Pass line bet so you DON'T LOSE that $60 that you did by NOT protecting your COME bets!!!
Had you did what I suggested, you would be $24 AHEAD INSTEAD of $60 DOWN!!!!
And the argument i will SUCCESSFULLY MAKE for this point is that as SOON as you hit either a Place bet or COME bet number you have up there, it will EASILY REPLACE the $3 that was lost once a point gets established FROM the COME bets that you were protecting!!!
Thank. You for the video
Why do players always ruin it by taking their wins to bet across? Stop trying to bet on every number. More targets gives you more chances to win, but you are picking up nickels in front of a steamroller.
Just tried this in Crapsee
First shooter +$860 with a max $200 risked. Wow. This looks like a real fun one if you can get that first hit