Drone Tracking Radar: Part 6 Range Doppler

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  • Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
  • This is the 6th video in the DIY radar project. In this video,
    0:00 -- Introduction
    0:26 -- Multiple FMCW Chirps
    2:33 -- Range Doppler Plot
    3:45 -- Python Program
    4:22 -- Street Demo
    6:59 -- Drone Radar Setup
    7:30 -- Output Power Measurement
    9:11 -- Drone Radar
    9:55 -- Radar Data Cube
    11:28 -- Future Videos
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    Here are the links used in this video:
    Phaser: wiki.analog.com/phaser
    Radar Software: github.com/jonkraft/PhaserRad...
    UA-cam Playlist: • Build Your Own Radar
    Pluto and PYSDR-IIO getting started:
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  • @bobbyshaftoe
    @bobbyshaftoe 7 днів тому +54

    I can't wait for the phased array series! W00t

  • @Parkhill57
    @Parkhill57 23 години тому +2

    Turbine and propeller modulations are part of the radar target processing on Air Defense Radars. You can see Russian Bear bomber propellers at max Doppler range. The bomber itself needs to get closer before the Doppler tracker locks-on to it. But we also had pulse radar that saw the bombers if they were high enough (Beyond the Horizon) at twice the range of the Doppler radar.

  • @AutomationDnD
    @AutomationDnD 7 днів тому +18

    Not gonna Lie. _This is actually fascinating_
    a really good, real life example of tech , physics & math in *Practicality*

  • @cho4d
    @cho4d 4 дні тому +3

    as someone who worked on radar for a short while, i am blown away with this project. i would be shocked if you're not snapped up by some defence contractor. or maybe that's how you got your knowledge? hehe

  • @nekomakhea9440
    @nekomakhea9440 6 днів тому +3

    it's pretty cool that a little diy radar is sensitive enough to detect a drone by the micro-doppler reflections of the drone's plastic rotors

  • @MrDhalli6500
    @MrDhalli6500 День тому +1

    Looking forward to the next video.

  • @robertbarta2793
    @robertbarta2793 3 дні тому +1

    Got hooked. Will watch the whole series now.

  • @remiechange5482
    @remiechange5482 День тому +1

    Many thanks! So interresting. Theorical papers are easy to found. It is easy to build basics doppler low cost radar. Here, I discover the power of array and chirp in doppler.

  • @oxidzv5775
    @oxidzv5775 7 днів тому +5

    Great Videos!!! Can't wait the phased array series.

  • @RyJones
    @RyJones 7 днів тому +4

    Ah, a fellow Terre Haute escapee. Congrats! I worked at ICTT in the 80s, and was on air at WMHD a few weeks.

  • @stratos2
    @stratos2 7 днів тому +8

    Just found your channel and I love the easily understandable, but still very technical style of explanation. This is super cool knowledge that I love having, thank you for teaching!

  • @ExplainingMathematics
    @ExplainingMathematics 4 дні тому +1

    10 seconds and I subscribed.

  • @rhb03
    @rhb03 3 дні тому +2

    Best series on practical radar fundamentals around. Can't wait for season 2! It has been super helpful to take the Phaser from a bit of complex hardware to useful experimentation.

  • @Atom224
    @Atom224 5 днів тому +1

    This series is awesome!

  • @deplorablesecuritydevices
    @deplorablesecuritydevices 7 днів тому +3

    This is such great work! Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @lbgstzockt8493
    @lbgstzockt8493 4 дні тому +1

    Looking forward to your phased array series, it is probably one of the coolest applications of signal processing, RF electronics and EM theory I know of!

  • @AerialWaviator
    @AerialWaviator 7 днів тому +3

    This has been an excellent series. Great informative content in nicely sized episodes.
    Really look forward to the phased array series.
    Seeing additional vertical bars in "street demo" range vs. velocity plot at 3.75, 7.5 m/s either side of 0 m/s suggests 1/2 and 1/4 wavelength interference, or is it an artifact of the FFT?
    The street demo really brought all the pieces together. Can see a number of ways to modify parameters, and software to experiment in different ways. Thanks for sharing.

  • @rfengr00
    @rfengr00 5 днів тому +3

    Great series it videos. I built a few FMCW back in grad school (1995) and we used YIG oscillators to get the bandwidth. Amazing that can be done in a couple of chip these days.

  • @23lkjdfjsdlfj
    @23lkjdfjsdlfj 7 днів тому +2

    I love these videos!

  • @aladinmovies
    @aladinmovies 6 днів тому +1

    Love you videos. Thanks for sharing!

  • @HansVanIngelgom
    @HansVanIngelgom 5 днів тому +1

    I just discovered this channel, instantly subscribed. Thank you for making these educational videos, I now have a bit of a backlog to work through.

  • @tsalgir
    @tsalgir 4 дні тому +1

    thanks for your time and effort

  • @sergijg
    @sergijg 7 днів тому +1

    Excellent work

  • @grimtagnbag
    @grimtagnbag 4 дні тому +1

    I love this wow. The algorithm works in my favor. Sub.

  • @liamosuilleabhain9965
    @liamosuilleabhain9965 7 днів тому +7

    Love these videos. I've never had the chance to study or play with radar, but having a background in electronics and maths it's still super easy to follow.

  • @roncho
    @roncho 6 днів тому +1

    fantastic explanation

  • @777arc2
    @777arc2 6 днів тому +1

    Can't wait for the beamforming application!!

  • @therealspixycat
    @therealspixycat 6 днів тому +1

    Very very interesting!

  • @markuskreidl1101
    @markuskreidl1101 7 днів тому +1

    Amazing thanks!

  • @hu5116
    @hu5116 5 днів тому +1

    Great video!

  • @420noscopeyeetcannon2
    @420noscopeyeetcannon2 7 днів тому +1

    this is amazing.. tyvm

  • @KrissyD-px9gj
    @KrissyD-px9gj 2 дні тому +1

    So cool. I wish i could afford the parts to build my own

  • @Parkhill57
    @Parkhill57 23 години тому

    The Pulse Doppler radars I worked on all had the closing velocities on the right of the clutter notch, and opening on the left.

  • @oleksandr6757
    @oleksandr6757 7 днів тому +1

    Wow! Thanks!

  • @changbin2079
    @changbin2079 7 днів тому +1

    nice work

  • @sampamnl.8964
    @sampamnl.8964 7 днів тому +1

    ขอบคุณมากครับ

  • @Kabodanki
    @Kabodanki 7 днів тому +2

    I'm very you are doing well with this extremely niche kind of subject.

  • @bondarenkodf
    @bondarenkodf 7 днів тому +1

    Is it possible to use this solution to hunt drones (e.g. intercept) in the air? All the types of drones - FPV, Shakhed and the reconnaissance ones.

  • @leozendo3500
    @leozendo3500 7 днів тому +1

    Extreme

  • @tavcohen4003
    @tavcohen4003 6 днів тому

    thanks very very cool work
    is that the range ? 40m
    for a bigger target say 10x bigger, of size 200cm,
    how far out should you be able to see it on top of the noise,
    and will the speed of the target effect its radar profile ?

  • @SpiraSpiraSpira
    @SpiraSpiraSpira 3 дні тому

    This may sound like an insane question, but is there radar sensitive enough to both detect a mosquito at relatively near distance, but positively identify it due to counting the microdoppler of its wings beating at a certain hertz?

  • @KostiantynKostin
    @KostiantynKostin 6 днів тому

    Great series!
    Is this phased array radar limited to 40 meters range? What is needed to detect range and speed of an object at 400 meters or more?

    • @jonkraft
      @jonkraft  2 дні тому

      Thanks! Assuming you mean improve range to 400m to see this small 249g drone. Two things need to be improved: improve the hardware and improve the signal processing. Hardware can be improved via that range equation from the first video. i.e. more Tx power, more directive antennas, etc. Signal processing is things like MTI, clutter suppression, integrating pulses, etc. Lots could be done on both of those ends. I'm just showing the concepts and a minimum working example. It would take non-trivial work on both hardware and software to get a reliable target at 400m.

    • @KostiantynKostin
      @KostiantynKostin 2 дні тому

      @@jonkraft Thanks for the reply. Your videos are popular both among my friends in FAANG and miltech developers in Ukraine making all kinds of stuff including phased array radars. Drones are a serious issue as you may know. And it is getting worse with addition of machine vision. I'm mean not only here, it is a global security issue. Personally I'm building an acoustic array to help defend our skies and more or less know its possibilities from simulations and early prototypes. Hope to finish a full scale prototype this summer and try it out on a test ground to help counter Iranian suicide drones Shaheds. Good luck with your series!

    • @jonkraft
      @jonkraft  День тому +1

      @@KostiantynKostin Thanks again. I really like the idea of acoustic arrays, I think that has a lot of merit for drone detection. Glad you are supporting Ukraine with this.

  • @whatthefunction9140
    @whatthefunction9140 7 днів тому +1

    You have a busy street

  • @kozlovskyi
    @kozlovskyi 6 днів тому

    Mimicking is easy. What books should I read, to properly un derstand that, and be able to tweak and adjust as I want?
    Antennas, amplifiers, dsp,...

    • @Parkhill57
      @Parkhill57 23 години тому

      Any university library will have all you need. Also look at IEEE article titles, and have the librarian get you a copy of the paper. You can't afford the books. They have an academic tax on them. Just look at them in the library, and copy the pages of interest with your hand scanner.

  • @johnschindler9641
    @johnschindler9641 6 днів тому

    So you have nine bins on the Fast Time axis, separated by the sampling rate of the data convertor, something like microseconds. Is there one ADC reading in each bin? 8 bins is enough for an FFT, but do you really have a lot more?

    • @jonkraft
      @jonkraft  2 дні тому

      Right, with modern data converters its very easy to get thousands of samples. I think this data was a couple thousand complex (IQ) data points per chirp.

    • @Parkhill57
      @Parkhill57 21 годину тому

      I think the drawing is simplified. Your going to have say 1024 time samples to give 1024 FFT frequency samples per range scan to give Doppler resolution. Triangle waves are not as good as sawtooth waves. The abrupt return to min frequency is a discontinuity.

  • @kozlovskyi
    @kozlovskyi 6 днів тому

    Can I synchronize a few cheap SDRs with some external clock, to extend the antenna array without selling a kidney?

  • @ericlyons11
    @ericlyons11 6 днів тому

    Is it possible to use the radar to calculate the rotation speed of the propellers of the drone?

    • @Parkhill57
      @Parkhill57 22 години тому

      Probably not the speed, as the blades are horizontal to the radar view, but the faster the rotation, the wider the blade Doppler is from the target Doppler. The blade tips are much faster than the RPM of the propeller.

    • @ericlyons11
      @ericlyons11 20 годин тому

      Thanks. I guess I should’ve ask if you could calculate the rpm of the blades. But I think you kind of answered that.

  • @freakmusicaddict
    @freakmusicaddict 6 днів тому

    Okay but your not measuring the actual Dopplershift right? Or am I missing something. And if that's true why is it then still called Doppler when it would be more accurate to say radial velocity.

    • @johnschindler9641
      @johnschindler9641 6 днів тому +2

      In an earlier part of the series, it was suggested that pauses in the frequency modulation ramp, where the frequency is held constant, would be good places to look for Doppler shifts. If the picture at 0:51 is correct, this wasn't done. I guess if things work out, you could have two beat frequencies: one for Doppler at a particular frequency and one for the range.

    • @freakmusicaddict
      @freakmusicaddict 6 днів тому

      @@johnschindler9641 ah okay thanks, didn't remember that part.

  • @TheOleHermit
    @TheOleHermit 4 дні тому

    Only read the title.
    1st thought, "DON'T TELL THE RUSSIANS!"

  • @antonmaier2263
    @antonmaier2263 7 днів тому +58

    how many ukrainians are watching this

    • @campandcook3118
      @campandcook3118 7 днів тому

      None, they are busy stealing us and European Technology

    • @vihtormch7512
      @vihtormch7512 7 днів тому +14

      as much as russians

    • @GPOLICE
      @GPOLICE 6 днів тому

      Na, it's the Americans Germans French and ***'s that are constructing the devices and conducting the experiments. The ukrainians and russians are just the testing medium

    • @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
      @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 5 днів тому +1

      Ukraine is a corrupt hole

    • @karaluv_ravenovich
      @karaluv_ravenovich 5 днів тому

      ​@@vihtormch7512true)

  • @jakubmierzejewski961
    @jakubmierzejewski961 3 дні тому

    Yeah. Let's low key help Ruzzians right now. Great job... -.-

  • @Petro_Bandera
    @Petro_Bandera 5 днів тому

    It's too expensive. Why can't I use a starlink for this?

    • @Parkhill57
      @Parkhill57 22 години тому

      Starlink is $100 a month. It only knows the IP protocol.

  • @plemli
    @plemli 7 днів тому +2

    This is begging for neural network processing in order to identify signatures.