Beam and Block Floor Assembly - 35A Extension #2
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- In Part 2 of our 35A Extension Roger and Steve lay a course of engineering bricks and prepare for the mammoth task of moving the beam and block floor into place.
Milbank in Earls Colne, Essex supplied the 225mm deep pre-stressed concrete floor beams. You can see their products at www.milbank.co...
Benefits of Concrete Beam & Block Floor Systems
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Roger I do plastering and groundworks and most of everything, mate but when I look at you and your lads at work and how you make it look so easy that's how a proper professional does it well done again I love watching your videos even tho I'm in the construction with over 25 years I always enjoy how you do it mate,AGAIN well done brother.
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bringing back 10 year old memories of my helping a friend do a similar job in pinner. happy memories awfully bad early spring weather...
You always had the trick of using the hand trolley for moving heavy beams then
Roger! :D Great work.
Luke Dyte
Yes but that was the wrong trolley. We needed soft tyres to run over the ground. We were working away from home and you never have what you need.
Now that's old school building, there the day things got done!
I had to do this job to my own extension.my beams were installed on first floor so had to use genie .very hard work so I take my hat off to these men.
"Negatively is not a contribution we need".......... Classic, great video
You always get one person on a job who tells you it isn't going to work and that spreads like a disease.
Im a groundworker so always messing around with beams...
I love how you and your team have a chemical balance
Me and my partner have a chemical balance too and we make things easy for each other
A massive part of Groundworks is not why it wont work but making it work!
Awesome. Full stop.
Just found this series and absolutely loving the prospect of this entire build!!
Roger (sorry nearly referred to you as Rodger) this stuff is FACKIN gold dust.
You are the BIZZ man and are Totally controlling this job!
Tremendous upload (will be watching the lot),and it also fits in well with your Skill Builder stuff.
The channel is pretty inspiring and genuinely quite helpful if you need a bit of advice!
Don't worry most of the comments have me as Rodger and it matters not one jot to me. I am glad you like the series, sadly Dylan moved from movie to stills and, though we have it, the series kind of peters our towards the end. We must get back on it when we find the time. There is so much going on at the moment.
3:16 - you describing every DIY project I've ever done
i'm about to do any extension with block and beam and the beams will be 6m long. Rather than carry 1/2 tonne beams i'm thinking about going for a sleeper wall and use 3m beams, weight will go from 1/2 tonne per beam to 160kg. Goes from 6 man job to 2 man job.
Love watching your work. Looking forward to part 3 and beyond.
Necessity is the mother of invention
Love the closing
I've been watching your videos for so long and not realise you guys are just up the road from me in Colchester.
We are spread around the South East. Our studio and edit suite is in Colchester so we are up there a lot.
@@SkillBuilder I heard you say Colchester then saw the Milbank lorry, we used to use them a lot as I work for a builders merchant. Never found their stock beams to be very good quality but the ones you were using were custom made so I'd guess made to a higher standard than their stock ones.
Won't the beams subside because these are resting on one row of bricks without any foundation below that.
We had 4 metre beams delivered on site and we lifted them one at a time onto two bandstands set just below shoulder height then got underneath them and walked them on our shoulder. Two men one at each end. It's surprising how easy they are to move when carried this way.
I would love to think we could have done that but when you go from 4 to 6 the beam is heavier section and twice the weight. Half a ton each is 6 bllokes.
'Thank you Pythagoras' lol... great video
I think the bread trollies would work better? for transporting the beams
Two wheels allows you to turn more easily. Once you get the balance point it is not bad.
There used to be a Millbank flooring depot at Earls Colne airfield back in the 1980s, they dissappeared and I assume they went tits up.
Great job was that Rog. Seemed highly strained at points!
strained? Yes you are right there. I was not at my most patient. It settled down when the heavy lifting was done.
They have had block and beam for decades in the UK but I have never seen them used in OZ yet.
Thank You...Great channel..great videos
Roger - was a timber floor not an option on this job? i.e did the customer/architect specify a beam & block floor?
I am building a house next year and even the thought of just putting the blocks in is making my bollox hurt!
The rest of the house is concrete and it is good to match it . Also we wanted a screed for the underfloor heating. Timber floors at ground floor level are not used so much these days in the U.K.
rage rage nice quote from one of my fellow countryman thanks Roger. Diolch yn Fawr( thank you very much)
Wouldn't the beams subside because these are resting on one row of bricks without any foundation below that.
The foundation is wider than the wall and goes down 1 metere. The inner wall is built up directly above the beam ends
Great job,, hard work 👍❤️ always brings quality with it👍
Why wouldn't you have installed a central sleeper wall to split the span?
Also ensure a minimum 150mm ventilated void is kept rather than the 75mm in the video.
The ground was made up so a central walls would have required a deep foundation. The beams do that span very easily. As for the underfloor ventilation it is supposed to be 150mm for sure.
That piano music during the eleven-minute duration. I take it you dubbed that music in the video and nobody was playing a grand piano in the back garden?
Hi which block did you use ? Is concrete dense blocks suitable to use ?
We would use them beams on an industrial garage not a poxy extension. Not sure if lightweight beams were a thing when this was filmed though
The beam size is relative to the span Jack. Smaller jobs would have a lighter beam.
Nathan Ellis we use light beams for everything
is that beam floor better then the full concrete badr floor ?
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The Building control decided that we would need to take out a metre of ground to find something good enough to lay a concrete slab on. The beam and block has advantages in such sites and also where there is heave.
thanks mate
Think I would of gone with a floating slab if ground heave is a problem. But shit that block an beam looks just too much like unnecessary work. Sleeper wall maybe to save your back. But I am sure u no what your doing Roger
What is that floor all about? Why is it concrete beams and blocks and not all concrete or wooden beams?
Because it is a beam and block floor. It is a very good way to build.
First I heard of it.. guess it has its advantages.. must have been selected for an engineering reason @@SkillBuilder
love the quality :D
if this block and beam is used often why not have four or five aluminium gantry's you can line up and simple push through from one gantry to the next- quick , easy , simples !!!
Maybe should have started from the house then you could have used a roller to get next beam in on the new floor just laid
Hi, did you have the beam and block foundation specified by a specialist company? Also, what is the specification for the foundation and footing that the beams rest on. Apologies in advance, I’m trying to have installed at my house.
Just go to a supplier, through your merchant. You send them the drawing and they spec the whole thing. The beams sit on a dpc on top of the brick or blockwork that forms the inner skin of the cavity wall.
I think it must be an ancient law in construction that if 2 blokes have to man handle something heavy 1 must make jokes and wind up and the other must bicker and moan. I dont think ive ever been part of a heavy lift without a couple fall outs on the first 1 or 2 lifts till youve figured it out
I think it depends on the nationality. If it is Italians or Asians there is lots of shouting and waving of arms but very little gets done. I like having one person who knows what he/she is doing and eveyone else shuts up.
@@SkillBuilder im exactly the same but everytime ive been apart of steels or beams theres 1 person messing round and the other person trying to get them to take it seriously. Ive seen steel beams end friendships before aha
How long were those floor beams? I'm thinking of getting 4 meter lengthmbeams for my planned new extension. I just hope my builders will know how to safely handle the weights!
aboout 4 metres. They will know how to move them
Health n Safety My bricklayer has come from a site in London and they banned the consumption of caffeine! Yep! Tea,Coffee & Cola anything containing caffeine + energy drinks wtf
He's pulling your leg!
The audiostud ( what a prick )
Looks great. What are the advantages of beam and block. Thx
Thomas Geraghty if you have a big void underneath it’s easier than a solid concrete floor. Plus air flow to stop damp.
max31198 the ole damp in England is a whores ghost , timber and a crawl space with vents, rot?
That ole treated stuff now a days is no good. Fence states in the UK rotten....deck boards too. There is a treated table my father made in chicago 35 yrs ago and been in ireland outside for 25. Zero rot. Mighty stuff. Fence posts, and deck boards he bought in Ire, rot. Unreal. Concrete the way!
Thomas Geraghty
The advantages are no dampness
The way to go is
start digging foundations then do the footings then internal drainage then the beams then the blocks in the beams then the out side bricks brought up to the level the concrete will be, with laser level then seal the blocks in the beams,with wet muck I usually would do this with dey sand and cement and then dampen with the hose after Then
100m polystyrene over the sealed block and beams,cut tight wright to the edges then all around the edges up right tight again then polythene rolls Roll them out and cover whole slab complete, and seal with water proof ducted tape preferably the blue one as is best so they say, and then ready to poor, concrete preferably the fiberglass concrete as is kind of self levelling,but you still have to tap screed and when done ,then spray with polybond spray to seal again, RESULT IS completely damp free
com bak next day start work ready to build extension. I said I would right this and explain, because a Lot of people on here have not got a clue what the fuck is going on so now you might have a bit of a clue, that's EXCEPT ROGER OF COURSE sorry if your reading this Roger these people make stupid comments so I thought I would answer for you.
Hope you don't mind that goes for you to Thomas now you no mate.👍👍👍
I keep thinking I over did my job when I concreted the floor with 12 to 16 inches of concrete. The floor size was 25 metres by 7 metres.
Think u did mate
@@abidpardasi cost me aswell. Oh well.
Why not get the brickwork up to damp first then throw the beams in??
Those beams were heavy duty and moving them over the brickwork can cause damage. We were on the limit. Two more men would have made a huge difference. Things have changed, now you can pick up cash in hand Eastern European labour from the Wickes carparrk and we would have had four more blokes on the job but we couldn't find anyone who wanted a day of heavy lifting. We more or less had to drug those guys and kidnap them.
Got any iron inside those foundations at all? And water drainage around it?
We don't put rebar in house foundations in the U.K, we dig down a big further and find solid ground then we mass fill.
@@SkillBuilder I understand. And what about PVC drainage around? Just curious to know more. It's been impressive so far, subscribed.
Too much back breaking. Just get a pump and pour a slab.
just get your wallet out...
The ground is probably not suitable for a slab, block and beam is more flexible, used a lot on clay ground
andrew taylor then go for suspended timber floor. Sod manhandling all that gear.
@@stevensdbuild9524 I agree
Hello
Can you explain to us
Why right didn't use concrete foundation
Hi Raul
Beam and block is independent of the ground so the made up ground doesn't need compacting. Also we have a cellar under one end of the building so that is free space.
@@SkillBuilder I am concerned that starting on part 2 they cant even see the foundations you poured into the trenches in the previous video.
HI ROGER. REALLY LIKE YOUR VIDEO INTRO GRAPHICS. I AM A BUILDER AND HAVE HUNDREDS OF VIDS ON MY COMPUTER RELATING TO CONSTRUCTION AND METAL FABRICATION. WANT TO POST MY VIDS BUT DONT KNOW WHERE TO GET VID INTRO. WANT TO LOOK PROFESSIONAL. CAN U HELP.
Hi can I use block and beam for a second floor
Yes it is done all the time
Why is beam and block system economical, in this situation, when it's so close to the ground?
Ground conditions?
Too expensive to, excavate and replace with hardfill (down to stiff soils) and slab on grade above?
Thanks in advance.
Yes the ground was all made up and getting down to something solid was a lorry load of excavation.
But dont check your diagonals with a stretchy sting line!...
yes I thought the same thing but it was spot on and we did use the tape as well. Always a mission setting out
Skill Builder im a groundworker, weston groundworks, we probably operate near you, when it comes to taking it up to damp, £300 for a bricky to set it out a d throw it up in a day is a seriously worthwhile thing for us knuckle draggers... all them thar numbers hurt a groundworkers brain
The brickies were busy and we needed to get on. Plus I don't trust anyone setting out. I have seen out of square buildings so many times
What is that, mixer ...not seen 1 ?
It is from Belle and is really for mixing tile adhesive and self levelling screed.
We were working away from home, staying over and didn't want to bring the mixer up at that stage. The brickies arrive in the next episode and bring their proper size mixer.
Funny thing is that in one of my mad tidying up frenzies I chucked that mixer on the skip. There was nothing wrong with it and later I found out tilers pay loads for them.
He’s the spit of jimmy Bullard lol
What Roger said about accidents at 6.27 is spot on right. They happen all the time, more so when fools like that bloke Roger was trying to explain to are about.
Roger is very safety conscious and doesn't like anyone being a clown when it comes to keeping safe.
The Dr. House of buildings
this videos so old those kids are probably in uni now
pootuis poot it’s 14 years old so probably some of them
I don’t see how this is faster than pouring concrete. It’s too heavy, requiring 5-6 men instead concrete pour requiring 3 men.
It isn't about speed. This is saves the ground build up with hardcore and sand and reinforcing.
If the ground is not great you have to dig down especially with clay. This ground was all made up so it would all have to come out.
Some places we pour and sometimes we use beam and block
@@SkillBuilder Thanks for the clarification.
when this been filmed
This was 2006, just before nice HD cameras became available.
@@SkillBuilder oh i was still in college. u guys still trading?
No 3,4,5 rules with you guys.
Yes we have done all that and Pythgoras as well.
@@SkillBuilder same difference ain't it.
Then of course sine, cosine and tangents come into play.
Was in construction for manys a year, so miss the crack on site.
Is it the best possible slickest job ever? No. Because it never is. Have to just get it done as best you can, sometimes you get shitty bit of ground and crappy access that's extensions all over.
You think it's gone stupid back then😢it's berserk now
i hate it when people say something can't be done. I say there's no such word as can't
I was looking at the footage and my older self wondered if I had been a little harsh on Robin. It looked an impossible task to him but in the end 11 minutes to get the last beam around and in position proved that all we needed to do was work out what we were doing. If we had been local we could have pulled in a few favours from other builders. Where I live we all rock up to lift a heavy steel beam in and with 10 men there is hardly anything we can't do.
Looks like is filmed in the 80's
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stick to plumbing Roger
Thank you for your worldy wisdom. Are you drunk?
Someone likes their cigarettes !!!
Really what a bunch of amateurs
What a bunch of clowns 😂😂😂