A bass-baritone is a voice that is between a bass and a baritone. The range is not high enough to be a full baritone and not thick enough to be a full bass. Sam Ramey is a full bass with exceptional high notes.
Ramey was an extraordinary artist with a wide and flexible range! He was a bass with extraordinary agility in the upper registers and rumbling power in the lower .
@gallferi Actually Sam could sing this aria in either key. As a deep bass it makes more sense for him to sing it in the lower accepted key. I know of no other bass who has/had the usable range that Sam Ramey has. Here on UA-cam you can hear him perform everything from a profundo low D-flat to a baritone high A-flat. His F- sharps were the best I have ever heard from any male singer. This is a one of a kind voice. I heard him fill Symphony hall in Boston with an interpolated low C.
@@angusmcrandy did he had that time also low notes - bass low notes f and low ? He is really amazing 👏 Did he sounded that time in college like a bass ? Or ? Please say more about him.
@@zazagagua6588 It was his last role in college, age 27. He sounded like a bass (and WAS) but simply had such incredible technique that he could sing Falstaff. I sang with him in church choir, taking over his job when he left, and heard him sing low C often.
Many years ago I saw Samuel Ramey and Placido Domingo at the New York Metropolitan in "The Tales of Hoffmann" .It was the best Depertuto I have ever heard .What a pleasure !!!
Nowhere on his web site is he referred to as a bass-baritone. It says that he is a bass who sings bass and bass-baritone roles. So it specifically says he is a bass. It does not say he is a bass- baritone. All of the myspace pages specifically say that Ramey is not affiliated with them! Additionally they say the same thing his web page does. That he is a bass. They all say this because he is a bass. The MET programs classify him as bass to. Not bass-baritone.
In this opera, there are three different versions for Dappertutto's Diamond aria: 1. "Tourne, tourne, miroir". 2. "Scintille Diamant". 3. "Répands tes feux dans l’air". I think the third was the best. Listen to each of them, then comment me to say which one you liked the best ;)
I recently bought at great expense a new CD version, was waiting for this great aria, and it wasn't there! I bought the wrong version. I was waiting and waiting for this beautiful thing and...
Do you know where can i get the scores for these arias? They are all wonderful .. but for Scintille Diamant i d like to find it in D major or in worst case scenario Eb major.
Absolutely amazing! To my ears this is the best rendition, bar none. I have listened attentively to a good number of other ones but time and time again, this is just high above them. Ramey, the best bass-baritone of his generation...or mine.
Scintille, diamant, Miroir où se prend l'alouette, Scintille, diamant, fascine, attirre-la L'alouette ou la femme a cet appas vainqueur Vont de l'aile ou du coeur L'une y laisse la vie Et l'autre y perd son âme. Beau diamant, scintille, attire-la
@@bodiloto C'était à Bastille. Donc... Où y a t il ni micros ni prompteurs ? Où ? A New-York ? A Covent ? A Scala ? Regardez bine leurs cheveux, le haut de leur front... Vous fantasmez encore les chanteurs d'il y a 35 ans, vous. Moi aussi, mais bon... Aujourd'hui, ces stars à 18 000 euros la soirée (c'est plafonné d'un commun accord international de directeurs, à ce qu'on a lu) ne veulent pas "pousser" leur voix : faut ménager les effets jet lag pour les récitals où on cachetone à 50 000...
@@christophesingio9801 La Bastille ?!... Des micros partout , à la volonté . C'est Vous qui est en train de fantasme mon cher , pas moi . Sans l'aide des micros la voix de Ramey pendant les répétitions est tout petite e en plus elle ne passe pas dans la sale,c'est un fait . Pendent les spectacles o ''miracle'', la voix mediocre de Ramey grasse au travail enorme à tout les techniciens du son qui travaillent à la Bastille se transforme en une voix cinq fois plus grande du celle de Ghiaurov !!! ... ahahahahahahahahahahahah ! Durant les spectacles à la Bastille l'effet stereo e vraiment très fastidieux !... Garnier c'est un vrai Opera lyriques, sans micros sans triche . ciao p.s. mon cher, pour les caches des chanteurs lyriques des année passé vous est du nouveau hellas très mal informé ...
@@bodiloto Listen here you miserable lout. You've made it your life's work to go around to every Ramey video you can find and make disparaging remarks about him. I've heard him live many times and always without benefit of amplification. A. My ear can tell the difference. B. No mixing desk or speakers were to be seen anywhere in the theater. The first time I heard him live, he hit the first note of Olin Blitch's 'Prayer of Repentence" from Susannah, and I literally jumped in my seat because that note was so powerful. I don't know what your problem is with Ramey, but I'm assuming it's something personal such as he got a role that you wanted or you made a pass at him and he turned you down or you're just plain jealous. We all know you hate the man and we all know that everything you say about him is untrue. So why don't you shut the hell up and go away.
When he debuted at San Francisco Opera as Colline in La Boheme, one reviewer complained about the terrible wig Ramey was wearing. Alas, it was his own hair.
he's a bass, but what bass.. those are miracle of the nature... matteuzzi once asked to him " how do you can mantain this sound all in the mask?" and he answered " i dunno, i sing and think with the nose" what artist!!!
@paldrich1 For baritones it is written in E major; when a deep bass sings it, it is taken down a whole step (like here), also in D Major, that makes the "attire lá" at the end a high F#. I think only Diaz, who is a high bass (with an incredible voice of being able to sing Sarastro AND Macbeth) can sing this magnificent aria in E Major.
I admire Diaz's voice but he's no MacBeth. I've heard him in that role and his voice sounds strained and pinched. That role is too high for his voice. Oh, he can hit all the notes, but the role does not suit him at all.
Oh please! read again. The "GOOGLE tag" says opera bass-baritone. The "site" says bass. I'm going with what Sam wrote. Silly me. Read The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Opera definition of bass baritone. The operative word is "between". It is a voice "between" a bass and a baritone. It is not a bass with good high notes as you have said. Bryn Terfel is a text book, bass-baritone. Do you hear any similarity between their voices?? I think not.
No. For reasons explained very well by others on this page. He is/was definitely a great BASS with exceptional high notes. Compare to bass-baritones singing this aria - even a Bass like René Pape - and the difference is very clear.
A bass-baritone is a voice that is between a bass and a baritone. The range is not high enough to be a full baritone and not thick enough to be a full bass. Sam Ramey is a full bass with exceptional high notes.
Impeccable as usual!
Ramey was an extraordinary artist with a wide and flexible range! He was a bass with extraordinary agility in the upper registers and rumbling power in the lower .
Mamma mia, che voce! una meraviglia!
parfait comme toujours
@gallferi Actually Sam could sing this aria in either key. As a deep bass it makes more sense for him to sing it in the lower accepted key. I know of no other bass who has/had the usable range that Sam Ramey has. Here on UA-cam you can hear him perform everything from a profundo low D-flat to a baritone high A-flat. His F- sharps were the best I have ever heard from any male singer. This is a one of a kind voice. I heard him fill Symphony hall in Boston with an interpolated low C.
I've heard the low C, and also HIGH C.
@@angusmcrandyyou mean tenors C ? Or central C ?by Sam ?
@@zazagagua6588 Tenor C. By Sam. I stood 2 feet away. It was a few minutes after he had sung the full role of Verdi's Falstaff with orchestra.
@@angusmcrandy did he had that time also low notes - bass low notes f and low ? He is really amazing 👏
Did he sounded that time in college like a bass ? Or ? Please say more about him.
@@zazagagua6588 It was his last role in college, age 27. He sounded like a bass (and WAS) but simply had such incredible technique that he could sing Falstaff. I sang with him in church choir, taking over his job when he left, and heard him sing low C often.
Many years ago I saw Samuel Ramey and Placido Domingo at the New York Metropolitan in "The Tales of Hoffmann" .It was the best Depertuto I have ever heard .What a pleasure !!!
Nowhere on his web site is he referred to as a bass-baritone. It says that he is a bass who sings bass and bass-baritone roles. So it specifically says he is a bass. It does not say he is a bass- baritone. All of the myspace pages specifically say that Ramey is not affiliated with them! Additionally they say the same thing his web page does. That he is a bass. They all say this because he is a bass. The MET programs classify him as bass to. Not bass-baritone.
In this opera, there are three different versions for Dappertutto's Diamond aria:
1. "Tourne, tourne, miroir".
2. "Scintille Diamant".
3. "Répands tes feux dans l’air".
I think the third was the best. Listen to each of them, then comment me to say which one you liked the best ;)
I liked the 3d version, but “Scintille, diamant” remains my favorite.
Dapertutto, not Dappertutto. Although he is quite dapper...
I recently bought at great expense a new CD version, was waiting for this great aria, and it wasn't there! I bought the wrong version. I was waiting and waiting for this beautiful thing and...
@@craigbrush5784 Which cd was it?
Do you know where can i get the scores for these arias? They are all wonderful .. but for Scintille Diamant i d like to find it in D major or in worst case scenario Eb major.
Absolutely amazing! To my ears this is the best rendition, bar none. I have listened attentively to a good number of other ones but time and time again, this is just high above them.
Ramey, the best bass-baritone of his generation...or mine.
Enjoyed that. What a top voice. Good hair too.
Scintille, diamant,
Miroir où se prend l'alouette,
Scintille, diamant, fascine, attirre-la
L'alouette ou la femme a cet appas vainqueur
Vont de l'aile ou du coeur
L'une y laisse la vie
Et l'autre y perd son âme.
Beau diamant, scintille, attire-la
He is the hero of all Basses!!
I love you Mr. Ramey
There is nothing wrong with the voice. There is a distortion in the recording. Amazing that a deep bass can sing this baritone aria so perfectly.
J'ai vu Ramey dans Dapertutto à Bastille. C'était époustouflant d'élégance démoniaque.
e des micros partout ...
@@bodiloto C'était à Bastille. Donc... Où y a t il ni micros ni prompteurs ? Où ? A New-York ? A Covent ? A Scala ? Regardez bine leurs cheveux, le haut de leur front... Vous fantasmez encore les chanteurs d'il y a 35 ans, vous. Moi aussi, mais bon... Aujourd'hui, ces stars à 18 000 euros la soirée (c'est plafonné d'un commun accord international de directeurs, à ce qu'on a lu) ne veulent pas "pousser" leur voix : faut ménager les effets jet lag pour les récitals où on cachetone à 50 000...
@@christophesingio9801
La Bastille ?!...
Des micros partout , à la volonté .
C'est Vous qui est en train de fantasme mon cher , pas moi .
Sans l'aide des micros la voix de Ramey pendant les répétitions est tout petite e en plus elle ne passe pas dans la sale,c'est un fait .
Pendent les spectacles o ''miracle'', la voix mediocre de Ramey grasse au travail enorme à tout les techniciens du son qui travaillent à la Bastille se transforme en une voix cinq fois plus grande du celle de Ghiaurov !!! ...
ahahahahahahahahahahahah !
Durant les spectacles à la Bastille l'effet stereo e vraiment très fastidieux !...
Garnier c'est un vrai Opera lyriques, sans micros sans triche .
ciao
p.s.
mon cher, pour les caches des chanteurs lyriques des année passé vous est du nouveau hellas très mal informé ...
@@bodiloto les cachets, c'est 18 000, très cher
@@bodiloto Listen here you miserable lout. You've made it your life's work to go around to every Ramey video you can find and make disparaging remarks about him. I've heard him live many times and always without benefit of amplification. A. My ear can tell the difference. B. No mixing desk or speakers were to be seen anywhere in the theater. The first time I heard him live, he hit the first note of Olin Blitch's 'Prayer of Repentence" from Susannah, and I literally jumped in my seat because that note was so powerful. I don't know what your problem is with Ramey, but I'm assuming it's something personal such as he got a role that you wanted or you made a pass at him and he turned you down or you're just plain jealous. We all know you hate the man and we all know that everything you say about him is untrue. So why don't you shut the hell up and go away.
I always wanted to hear my Dad sing this. He had a voice as good as his.
I was lucky enough to see my dad sing this. One of my best memories of him on stage. 💚
Merveilleux Samuel Ramey !
This hair....this voice .... this man..... OMG!!! so hot, so sexy! I love you Sam! ^_^
When he debuted at San Francisco Opera as Colline in La Boheme, one reviewer complained about the terrible wig Ramey was wearing. Alas, it was his own hair.
I hugged my monitor
P
@bassfanne45 Aaaah, thank you so much.
You always ca buy at our boutique we order or S.F.opera.I've seen this play Its beautiful.Bravo Samy.
Martial Singher: Scintille Diamant - 1959, Met:
watch?v=F4R5YFKNws0
thanks and regards
Che brano meraviglioso...
he's a bass, but what bass..
those are miracle of the nature...
matteuzzi once asked to him " how do you can mantain this sound all in the mask?" and he answered " i dunno, i sing and think with the nose"
what artist!!!
Of course this has to be quite a few years old. I haven't heard much of him lately, but he was one of the greatest baritons in the 80s.
Baritones?
Bass. A basso cantante. Different from the profundo type of bass.
MY IMAGINARY GRANDPA 😍😍😍
@paldrich1 For baritones it is written in E major; when a deep bass sings it, it is taken down a whole step (like here), also in D Major, that makes the "attire lá" at the end a high F#. I think only Diaz, who is a high bass (with an incredible voice of being able to sing Sarastro AND Macbeth) can sing this magnificent aria in E Major.
Sam has sung Verdi's Falstaff.
@@angusmcrandy No he hasn't.
I admire Diaz's voice but he's no MacBeth. I've heard him in that role and his voice sounds strained and pinched. That role is too high for his voice. Oh, he can hit all the notes, but the role does not suit him at all.
@@tamolyn5141 I was in the chorus for his Falstaff. It was his last role in college.
you learn that in school and through lessons.... after years of doing it, it come with ease
Baquet est-il meilleur
j'en doute
Belle voix de Ramey
GRANDE EVER.
Oh please! read again. The "GOOGLE tag" says opera bass-baritone. The "site" says bass. I'm going with what Sam wrote. Silly me. Read The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Opera definition of bass baritone. The operative word is "between". It is a voice "between" a bass and a baritone. It is not a bass with good high notes as you have said. Bryn Terfel is a text book, bass-baritone. Do you hear any similarity between their voices?? I think not.
I mentioned him to Justino Diaz, who replied "Not that's a real BASS!"
Terfel, Van Dam, Bacquier:
Bass-Baritones.
FABELHAFT
...bass, not baritone
Omar Lara
Samuel Ramey = baritone, not BASS .
Bass - Baritone, okay?
No.
For reasons explained very well by others on this page. He is/was definitely a great BASS with exceptional high notes. Compare to bass-baritones singing this aria - even a Bass like René Pape - and the difference is very clear.
@@TedinNY
Samuel Ramey a great BASS ?!?!
ahahahahahahahahahahahah !
@@bodiloto
"hahahaha etc.!!!"
Samuel Ramsey was/is A Great Bass.
Yes.
Something wrong with his voice that night in the hight range. You can tell he's being very careful. Listen to the Sills/Treigle recording.
Impressive voice at low tones. Not so much at high ones.