The flirty hallucination never getting brought up again was such a robbery. Ah yes, straight men and their fantasies of being seduced by their best friend singing Amy Winehouse
will never be more upset than the writers ignoring the fact that Nygma very obviously had repressed feelings for Penguin. Like it’s not even subtext ITS JUST THE TEXT
I think the writers were all for it. They really tried (well, tze chun did try❤️) but the problem was the producers and FOX. That's how lgbt community gets treated when old, white men own TV.
The worst part for me is the "We're brothers" line. Why would you even say that to someone you were in love with at some point? I would never see an ex as a sibling.
@Mark Hey if it makes you feel any better, I had repressed feelings for my straight best friend when I was 14, so to cover up the fact that I loved him, we started calling eachother “brothers”, because it was the next most intimate thing I could think of referring to him as. I like to believe Oswald had the same intention when he called Edward his brother in that episode
@@PinkMelatonin Canon line that got change/cut on last minute? Remind me of Destiel. And btw, Jeremiah also kept saying that he wanted Bruce to be his 'brother' like who are you fooling?
Edward literally had a drug induced vision of Oswald singing Amy fucking Winehouse to him in a seductive cabaret manner and that alone makes me feel so robbed
There was originally going to be a scene in the last episode where Ed kisses Oz after he dies which leads me to believe that since Oswald didn’t die they probably got together after the events of the series.
@@WarmBreadBearBuddy yeah, that's truth in half, that wasn't a original script, rather than a draft script for the unproduced season 6, remeber that Gotham was going to have 6 seasons but due to legal probelms the show was cancelled after s4 & s5 was a collage of all the ideas of 2 entire seasons in just 11 eps & it wasn't a mouth kiss, just a kiss in the chick, but again, it was just a draft
*mind:* hey i was wondering if you'd like to get a coffee with me sometime? *connection between mind and mouth:* ????? *mouth:* did you know male emperor penguins---
Dude it breaks my fucking heart how FOX disallowed Ozzie and Ed’s relationship from developing further, and I feel even worse knowing that Gotham’s never going to get a continuation. I’d do anything to see more Nygmobblepot
And after that, the producers had the courage to said that they are only " *brothers!* " While the people who wrote the script clearly assumed that Oswald was gay and Edward Bi, and both are in love with each other...
Not going to lie, that scene at 2:30 , The first time I watched that season, me AND my friend both thought that Penguin was leaning in to kiss him instead of hug him (And we didn't even know about Oswald's sexual preference at that point)
i just watched that scene 5 min ago while watching the show and thought the same thing i had to look up ships on youtube to see if others thought the same thing they for sure have a thing for each other
Honestly Penguin and Nygma's Bi Awakening was the best arc of the show. I'm pretty sure the actors even said in an interview they basically acted like it was a relationship.
I absolutly love, how Os is wearing purple whenever he is close to Ed again, since Ed once said, that he could wear that color very well. I rewatched the seasons and this kind of detail is just lovly.
@@riddlebirb1971 I don't know if I'd seen the whole show at the time, but it was mostly available on Netflix when I was trying to show their scenes to a friend. But then. It just went on. And on. I was like wow, these guys ever NOT gay?
I like to think that the little song Oswald sings to Ed is actually a product of a deep thought of Ed.... So he wants Oswald too but Fox doesn't like it
@3:34 is so sad, seeing the joy ripped from oswalds face like maybe if ed had pushed and asked him one more time what he wanted to say he would have just done it, but now its in the past and its back to crime as usual
Yeah. But it's quite obvious that Ed was also very disappointed by Oswald's desicion not to say what you wanted to say. I mean, he clearly didn't believe Oswald's excuse that he simply "forgot". Ed's smarter than that. I feel like he felt the same way for Oswald (the love riddle, the awkwardness, the couch scene I MEAN COME ON) but he thought that it was unrequited. Then, isabella came to his life and completely distracted him, and that was probably her only purpose. Yes, I still believe she was a clone made by hugo strange and the court of owls.
Maybe it was the angle of the camera, or the way that Oswald pouted his lips right before, but I was so certain they'd kiss I fell of my chair, and when I got up I thought I had missed it. 2:21
the way that every single cinamatographic que to show that characters are inlove is used on them like its not even subtext at this point its literally just there-
honestly. and that's one of the reasons I'm sure she was just a clone made by the court of owls. any human being with common sense would've stayed away from ed after learning he's crazy and a killer.
@@riddlebirb1971 Not to mention it was straight up abusive she sexualized and made Ed live through such a trauma again. I just wish there had even been one line mentioning she was a clone.
Yes! If one or both were female, Fox would've had them in a relationship, as the other couples. To be honest, though, I'm surprised that Fox actually allowed the writers to even have them as close/suggestive, as they were, considering Fox's views/opinions.
What makes me very angry about Gotham ,they kept ED and penguin apart ..but it was ok for Tabby and BarBra together and they where gay ..it was Fucking criminal braking Eds and Oswalds hearts
i’ve never seen this show but this is the fruitiest thing i’ve ever seen and now i wanna watch it also: HE SENT HIM BISCUITS AND A SWEATER??? that’s gay
i love how eds way of flirting is just nervously blurting out random facts 😭
That’s my way of flirting as well.
I think that's the autism
Come to my house and I’ll tell you the murder rate in Uganda
He’s just like me, for real.
No but, HE’S SO FUCKING CUTE!
he’s doing it the autistic way
"i'll miss you, edward..."
"... i'll miss you too, oswald."
"I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU!"
they way he broke ed's heart in that moment😂 he kinda deserved it though.
sad Riddler noises
@@riddlebirb1971 he deserved it he's a meanie
We need a time stamp of this! 7:49
"I'm talking to The... UGHH!"
The flirty hallucination never getting brought up again was such a robbery. Ah yes, straight men and their fantasies of being seduced by their best friend singing Amy Winehouse
Amy Winehouse* but yeah. I totally agree. They never mentioned it afterwards and I was like ??? As if Ed's sexuality isn't important 🙄
@@riddlebirb1971 My bad, I changed it cause that's just embarrassing! And yeah, especially considering all the other hints at a repressed sexuality
FR LIKE OSWALD WAS SO SEXUALLY SEDUCING ED
what are you talking about, that's the straightest thing I've ever heard of 🥴
He was on drugs but honestly… i could believe the character just may not WANT to love Oswald like that after what he did…
will never be more upset than the writers ignoring the fact that Nygma very obviously had repressed feelings for Penguin. Like it’s not even subtext ITS JUST THE TEXT
I think the writers were all for it. They really tried (well, tze chun did try❤️) but the problem was the producers and FOX. That's how lgbt community gets treated when old, white men own TV.
The worst part for me is the "We're brothers" line. Why would you even say that to someone you were in love with at some point? I would never see an ex as a sibling.
@Mark Hey if it makes you feel any better, I had repressed feelings for my straight best friend when I was 14, so to cover up the fact that I loved him, we started calling eachother “brothers”, because it was the next most intimate thing I could think of referring to him as. I like to believe Oswald had the same intention when he called Edward his brother in that episode
@@Mark-pl3bv
I'm not sure but I've heard that the original line was something that wouldve made them Canon but it had to be changed
@@PinkMelatonin Canon line that got change/cut on last minute? Remind me of Destiel. And btw, Jeremiah also kept saying that he wanted Bruce to be his 'brother' like who are you fooling?
One things for sure
There is no heterosexual explanation for this
what are you talking about? there's nothing gay here! they're just gals being pals.😑✋
riddlebirb of course! just a couple of dudes being husbands, 100% clean of the gay
They just friends
There are a billion homosexual explanations however
0:36 this was the moment they fell in love you can’t convince me otherwise
Edward literally had a drug induced vision of Oswald singing Amy fucking Winehouse to him in a seductive cabaret manner and that alone makes me feel so robbed
There was originally going to be a scene in the last episode where Ed kisses Oz after he dies which leads me to believe that since Oswald didn’t die they probably got together after the events of the series.
@@WarmBreadBearBuddy IS THAT REAL??? SOURCE???? pleaseee tell me thats real and your not lying
@@_nylemovedacc7672 a friend of mine did some digging and found the script but they said they found it on the official gotham website
@@WarmBreadBearBuddy yeah, that's truth in half, that wasn't a original script, rather than a draft script for the unproduced season 6, remeber that Gotham was going to have 6 seasons but due to legal probelms the show was cancelled after s4 & s5 was a collage of all the ideas of 2 entire seasons in just 11 eps
& it wasn't a mouth kiss, just a kiss in the chick, but again, it was just a draft
Where would it be possible to find this script?
As a HOMOSEXUAL the first clip is literally how most gays flirt
*mind:* hey i was wondering if you'd like to get a coffee with me sometime?
*connection between mind and mouth:* ?????
*mouth:* did you know male emperor penguins---
@@frankieghost9902 😂😂😂
Maybe he means with humor opening? 😁
Mhm
As Another homosexual i agree
Also, anxiety
"I love you so much Edward"
FOX: they're such good friends
Ikr smh
“I wOuLd Do AnYtHiNg FoR yOu”
Some historians would say they were best friends, brothers even 🤞🏻
Ed: has a drug induced fantasy about his dead ‘friend’ singing Amy Winehouse seductively in red light in a suit.
The Fox: ha- straight
Bro once you start imagining scenarios with someone in them, it's already to late to not like them more than a friend
“I love you so much Edward.”
“I would do anything for you.”
“The truth is..I love you.”
Fox: they were very close friends
And historians would say they were just very good friends
historians b like they were "brothers"
@@MalphasAstaroth the "we're brothers" in the end was the historians censoring the gay lines
@@MalphasAstaroth “Step brothers”
That scene about the riddle and the answer was love. I screamed, there is No Straight Explanation for That
Bro if HBO did this show they would have ended up together…
or netlfix. any other network would do better that f*x.
Bro if HBO did this show they would have had sex at least a dozen times by the end of season 3…
We were robbed 🧍🏽♀️
@@i-landsleepaid2452 by the end of season 2
@@Truecrimeresearcher224 by the end of Season 1
The 2 dislikes are Ed and Oswald who r still denying their feelings for each other
Must be Ed, Ozzie already admit his feelings.
What dislikes 🤨
They are just Eddie and his fake Riddler account. Oswald was very open about his feelings.
Real
I love how in his hallucinations penguine is serenading him, with a song about love no less
It's even better when you realize it's supposed to be an erotic scene.
@@starteranimations4350 😭OH GOD
I found this ship by complete accident, I’ve never seen a shred of DC content before, and I am officially in love
IKR
As this comment was posted 7 months ago, I assume that you have finished gotham by now?
@@mishainoctober6031 never even started it LOL
WELCOME TO THE GOD DANM CLUB
If you’re wondering who Oswald and Ed are it’s the riddler and the penguin both pretty famous the shows on netflix
Dude it breaks my fucking heart how FOX disallowed Ozzie and Ed’s relationship from developing further, and I feel even worse knowing that Gotham’s never going to get a continuation. I’d do anything to see more Nygmobblepot
Never say never! we could get a spinoff or a 6th season at some point!
True! 🥺🙏💖
For real. They allow lesbian relationships but not gay because that's apparently sexy.
Nygmobblepot. It's great.
They should be a bromance
And after that, the producers had the courage to said that they are only " *brothers!* "
While the people who wrote the script clearly assumed that Oswald was gay and Edward Bi, and both are in love with each other...
what else did y'all expect from Fox? 🙄
@@riddlebirb1971 You're so right 🤣🤦🏻♀️
4:59 you can't slap the gay away, Ed :D
WHY DIDNT THEY END UP TOGETHER AND BE FABULOUSLY EVIL AND DRAMATIC TOGETHER?!?!
I mean, they did end up together. Technically. 😌
That’s what fanfiction is for, my friends.
the way oswald shouted 'eddie!' out of panic when the grenade got thrown just makes me feel things idk,,
Not going to lie, that scene at 2:30 , The first time I watched that season, me AND my friend both thought that Penguin was leaning in to kiss him instead of hug him (And we didn't even know about Oswald's sexual preference at that point)
I thought that too! I was literally certain he’d kiss him. Maybe he even wanted to but then decided to just Hug him?
same!! i was so convinced they would kiss
SAME I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED WHEN THEY DIDN'T FNJTVJJFJV
My dad (who is a straight-cis-ally thought the same). I thought so too.
Edit: My dad was even like "Why did they not build the relationship more?"
i just watched that scene 5 min ago while watching the show and thought the same thing i had to look up ships on youtube to see if others thought the same thing they for sure have a thing for each other
"Love."
"SHUT UP!"
Honestly Penguin and Nygma's Bi Awakening was the best arc of the show. I'm pretty sure the actors even said in an interview they basically acted like it was a relationship.
Cory is the one who made the ship
@@WarmBreadBearBuddy why Robin didn't?
@@debora_777 I mean Robin ships it but Cory is the one who originally wanted them to be a couple after their first interaction in 1x15
@@WarmBreadBearBuddyhe came up with the ship name ❤
The fact that they’re both gay in real life lol
Irony abounds.
If you think about it, all this consuming relationship drama amongst the Rogues keeps Gotham safer than the Batman ever could.
The entire rouge gallery is a gang of bitter exes
Plz tell me I’m not the only one who felt the tension at 6:32 and thought they were gonna kiss
People really trying to say Ed didn't like Oswald back, but they forget about this 4:46. Like, come on? Really?
"Even if I were alone, you wouldn't stand a chance!"
Honey, if you two were alone you would not be fighting 😏
And Ed's smirk in that scene 😩❤️🔥
i feel like..... they for sure would’ve put them together if it weren’t for fox. like you can tell edward has repressed feelings for him
I absolutly love, how Os is wearing purple whenever he is close to Ed again, since Ed once said, that he could wear that color very well. I rewatched the seasons and this kind of detail is just lovly.
This is sweet
Until you realize that they’re both psychopathic homicidal maniac villains
still sweet doe
even psychopathic, homicidal, maniacal villians need someone to share their conquests with
@@that1proxy Indeed😤👌
I mean, Oswald's not a psycho, he's just a machiavellic scheming jerk. But deep down he's a sweetie and a mama's boy
Details
08:34 that breathy and content tone whilst he says "oswald" lord, they are so in love🥺
4:40 there is NO straight explanation for this and I will fight for this scene
IKR I WAS THINKING THAT LIKE WHY IS IT SO WEIRLY FLIRTY?
So true!
You mean you don't have completely hetero fantasies about your friends serenading you?
They're such good friends!
The good friends:
"saying that ridiculous name would be torture itself." literally writes a love letter for riddler just to say his name in the end
WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED
Edit; you missed the “There is no Ed Nigma without The Penguin”
I've missed so many scenes tbh 😳
@@riddlebirb1971 I don't know if I'd seen the whole show at the time, but it was mostly available on Netflix when I was trying to show their scenes to a friend. But then. It just went on. And on. I was like wow, these guys ever NOT gay?
BUTCH AT 1:49 IM SCREAMING HE IS SO TIRED
Omfg this is so funny
Tbh very relatable
“OMFG JUST KISS”
He’s just like “get it over already”
Solomon Grundy
I like to think that the little song Oswald sings to Ed is actually a product of a deep thought of Ed....
So he wants Oswald too but Fox doesn't like it
They were originally going to kiss but fox stopped it.
4:56 if this is his subconscious you can’t tell me he doesn’t feel the same way for oswald
Freud would have a field trip with this lmao
"Do you believe in fate?"
Yes Edward, ever since you two found each other
1:49 buch rolling his eyes made me laugh so hard 😂😂😂
I love gotham but honestly wouldn’t mind watching gotham just based on these two. Thats how great and interesting I find them.
"They do be gay tho"
@3:34 is so sad, seeing the joy ripped from oswalds face like maybe if ed had pushed and asked him one more time what he wanted to say he would have just done it, but now its in the past and its back to crime as usual
Yeah. But it's quite obvious that Ed was also very disappointed by Oswald's desicion not to say what you wanted to say. I mean, he clearly didn't believe Oswald's excuse that he simply "forgot". Ed's smarter than that. I feel like he felt the same way for Oswald (the love riddle, the awkwardness, the couch scene I MEAN COME ON) but he thought that it was unrequited. Then, isabella came to his life and completely distracted him, and that was probably her only purpose. Yes, I still believe she was a clone made by hugo strange and the court of owls.
@@riddlebirb1971 agreed
even my dad said that they were gay for eachother
“Did you name your dog after me?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love Butch being the third wheel lmao
WHY DIDN'T THEY KISS?! 😢 They deserved it!
IKR!! I was waiting 5 seasons for it and it never happened :(
No way. A kiss would ruin it. Trust. It's better this way.
BECAUSE FOX WAS A BUNCH OF COWARDS
they robbed us of an relationship between them 2
3:21 is honestly me when I have to tell anybody ANYTHING important but my anxiety kicks in😂
FAVORITE SHIP OF MY LIFE.
mood
missing these two hours:(
THEY LOVE EACH OTHERRRRR IDC
6:31 what heterosexual explanation is there for the way hes holding his face and relaxes and they just stare into eachothers eyes LMFAO??
This entire video is just me wanting to scream at them to “JUST FUCKING KISS ALREADY!”
theyre so cute why couldnt the writers leave them alone-
Maybe it was the angle of the camera, or the way that Oswald pouted his lips right before, but I was so certain they'd kiss I fell of my chair, and when I got up I thought I had missed it. 2:21
SAMEEEEE I CAN'T
Everyone who has ever watched this scene thinks it. Even the straights (and they don't see anything usually)
@@liz257 yeah im straight and I can confirm I want these guys to date.
I havnet watched gotham, i dont know why im here. But there is no heterosexual explanation for this
GOTHAM BUTS ITS ED AND OSWALD BEING STRAIGHT FOR 9 MINUTES GAY
Yes that is indeed the title.
They're so in love with eachother ✋😭😭😭
The first time they interact acted I literally screamed: I know gay people!! You are gay
the way that every single cinamatographic que to show that characters are inlove is used on them like its not even subtext at this point its literally just there-
see, THIS is the content i want to see.
Eddie and Ozzie were the greatest badass gangsters of all time
it's actually unbelievable they didn't make out
6:37 is the definition of love in the eyes, Robin Lord Taylor trully put everything in the moment
Ed is literally just denying the fact he's gay 💀
This ship is what got me obsessed with the Batman fandom. Just finished watching the movie where Jim Carrey is the Riddler.
Just saying, if a mob kingpin came to my place of work and told me to stop fucking around with his boyfriend, I'd listen.
honestly. and that's one of the reasons I'm sure she was just a clone made by the court of owls. any human being with common sense would've stayed away from ed after learning he's crazy and a killer.
@@riddlebirb1971 Not to mention it was straight up abusive she sexualized and made Ed live through such a trauma again. I just wish there had even been one line mentioning she was a clone.
@@munchfacedoom literally all they would need in one scene confirming she’s a clone and everything would’ve fallen into place perfectly
We were robbed of a kiss scene they should’ve locked lips for more than 15 seconds
If gotham was never cancelled and the show went on to its 7th season I really think we would’ve gotten some soft boyfriend moments . Robbed so hard
ed fell first but oswald fell harder
still not over Oz screaming "EDDIE" and pushing him out of the way of the grenade 😭
Better love story than Twilight.
😂
Damn even the reincarnation of Kristin knows ozzy loved Eddy. The true evil was foox
Edward: "Love"
Oswald: "Shut up!"
Looks like Penguin is denying he is in love with Riddler.
LITERALLY SCREAMING AT HOW GAY THESE TWO CONSTANTLY ARE
we were ROBBED
Yes! If one or both were female, Fox would've had them in a relationship, as the other couples. To be honest, though, I'm surprised that Fox actually allowed the writers to even have them as close/suggestive, as they were, considering Fox's views/opinions.
Robbed like Batman's parents.
I wasn't going to watch this until I saw the title and died at your pun 😂😂😂
Me: yeah, I tOTALLY know how to read correctly.
The title: *i’m about to ruin this whole woman’s career*
it's actually funny since they are both gay in real life
And historians will call them-
Close friends, besties, roommates, colleagues- anything but lovers. History hates lovers. ❤️🩹
“And they were roomates”
THIS SHIP IS MY WHOLE LIFE NOW
I wish the full series was still on Netflix. I want to rewatch the whole thing but only their scenes and stories
Once again, I didn't realise how much I needed this compilation of nygmobblepot. But I love it and appreciate it so much
That ship name almost gave me a stroke reading it LMAO🥖🤠
What makes me very angry about Gotham ,they kept ED and penguin apart ..but it was ok for Tabby and BarBra together and they where gay ..it was Fucking criminal braking Eds and Oswalds hearts
i’ve never seen this show but this is the fruitiest thing i’ve ever seen and now i wanna watch it
also: HE SENT HIM BISCUITS AND A SWEATER??? that’s gay
They were born to be together ❤
They are really adorable
2:37 ffs this whole SCENE?! "brothers"??? Are you for real?
there is 0 heterosexual explanation for all of this
6:30 - 6:39 ngl thought ed was going to kiss him beuase it looked like he was looking at his lips
Omg! I can't believe i've forgotten about this show & these 2 fave characters of mine!
😍😊😶💚🖤😶😊😍 Just started rewatching vids of Gotham yesterday!
I ship them so badly LOL
2:31 i just know oswald wanted to kiss ed in that scene
it’s me i’m your gay coded villain
I thought they were gonna kiss half the time
They’re literally boyfriends
Ironically they flirted with each other behind the scenes, because they were both already spoken for.
never seen this show but they are definitely not straight
they title is amazing
6:32 no heterosexual explanation for this