I honestly feel like, as good as LoH and AA are, Funn1k and KuroKy are so much better. The fact that Funn1k plays offlane heroes like Timbersaw and such allows Puppey to be on the Enigma, who is much better in the jungle.
watch the game 3 of this. its just that the plays of DK are not as explosive as navi's. the reason why most people love navi is because of the fact that they deliver explosive plays that will take you off your seat. just because the commentators werent as hyped on commenting on DK doesnt mean they're biased.
y ofc, just check the winners bracket semifinals. Navi +3 chinese. Alone in the dark, etc. Thats the reason streamers love them, and of course, they were the champions before, and the amount of badges is 7 times higher for navi almost in every game, so navi is loved more for just being navi.
i think its because navi picks are way more exciting perhaps,they are the team that uses rare heroes such as jug,fv and not only uses them,but fully utilized them and 1 of the team that doesnt give a crap to some of the heroes that is considered as imbalance by other team such as naga
thats a common mistake in pubs. mkb, daedalus or such are items which do not pay for themselves unless its very late in the game. Pros get the items which are the most cost effective. Mek, consumables, wards, vanguards, arcane boots... after that active items like scythe of vyse, bkb, blink dagger, etc. only when the game is long enough and the carry has farmed will you see big damage items, most of the times they just get rapier outright, not mkb
Drow is very damage dependent. Doesn't use magic spells and not a very strong farming hero. I can think of many heroes that can counter Drow and can be out carried.
But they were. All tournament long. EG vs IG=biased for EG Na'vi vs Dk=biased for Na'vi Na'vi vs LGD= biased for Na'vi Na'vi vs IG=biased for Na'vi. Dont get me wrong, they still commentated amazingly good, but it was just so painfully obvious. We can only hope this wont be the case at TI3.
chess and checkers look the same on the outside with different figures and same background but one has more depth (dota) and is played by non-casual players while checkers (lol) is the easier game recommended for younger players
by any means i agree with u with that, but u should consider the possibility that the commentators, as humans, can sometimes get carried away by the momentum. i guess u will say that almost every time they get carried away with NaVi 's moments and u might be right at some point but it cant be helped.. if NaVi is the team they support then their emotions will take over at NaVi 's moments. then again its their job to be fair so i guess they could try a bit harder
Game 1: Navi got 5k+ gold lead, "look at the gold difference between the two team. This just shows how dominant blah blah blah. Game 2: DK 5k+ gold lead, "gold difference doesn't tell the story. They got a gold lead, and that's it". Wow.. just wow. P.S I'm not a DK fan boy and am actually a fan of Na'vi. But this commentating... damn.
John Juice Well to be fair, Na vi had a gold lead of 14k over DK. And besides the chinese teams were pretty dominant this particular TI, pretty much knocked out every other eu or na team out of the internationals. Na vi was seen as the last and best hope against the chinese powerhouses.
what if you just want to watch the gameplay, not long minutes of banning? just because you don't want to stare at the screen as they ban doesn't mean you think they aren't important
That's it everybody, jump on the bandwagon of the top commenter and complain about Na'Vi bias, even though there's just as much praise for DK relative to how well they played.
Thats cool and all, but I think its unfair for the underdog team to not get as much love. I enjoy great play no matter who its from, and the announcers should be the same.
that was against iG in the final,and navi doesnt always pick naga,its just that they dont always use naga,and yes eg and mtw also use jug sometime,but can they execute like navi did?navi went against ig in winner brackets semifinal,gv out ds naga and tide,and beat the hell out of them...that buddy,isnt a thing that can be done easily
Well you didn't get my point. If your such a pro, then you should be. Ultimately my point was Puppey spent the majority of his time farming but wasn't able to have a huge impact on this game. Lycan is one of the best farming heroes in the game and out cs'ed. Maybe it's best that he played a support and will be able to benefit his team. You could be partially correct saying he's better than me, but I don't dedicate my life to dota. I actually have a graduate degree and a job.
im pretty sure china and russia do the same thing, when american teams play against their favorites im sure they only get hyped when their favorite does something and not so much the american players.
every announcer or commentator/whatever is a little biased, these people are just humans,they have their preferences, and above all, they dont even influence the game, so i don't see your point
for carries, they don't usuall buy wards, or items like mek and pipe, supports get that, same with actives like scythe of vyse, though bkb is usually needed on carries. who dafuq buys rapier in competitive games? mkb is important against evasion. arcane boots not bought on most carries and vanguard usually only bought on squishy melees, not even all of them
what? clearly ure a professional. who on earth buys rapier outright as a carry, how many carries take arcane boots or meks or vards and not many pick vanguards either...
Humans?wow i didn't know that. My point is exactly what I said, so if u cant figure that out maybe u should read it again...or buy hooked on phonics and try again.Ty
Felix Its 'not that good of a big team' atleast get the phrasing right. And as to how good they are, watch 'the play' by navi. That really solidifies their status as a top tier team. That particular team fight against ig is still talked about even after 5 years.
DENDI USES ORB! WHAT A PLAYER THIS DENDI
I honestly feel like, as good as LoH and AA are, Funn1k and KuroKy are so much better. The fact that Funn1k plays offlane heroes like Timbersaw and such allows Puppey to be on the Enigma, who is much better in the jungle.
Well back in ti2 there wasnt the same pool of heros than now u can see ti2 funik team darer he is good as loh but loh has more history than funnik
I've always thought this was the best ever navi line-up - must of watched lgd vs navi game 3 at least 20 times
imagine if XBOCT was there with the epi when Light pulled off the sick hole at the end
watch the game 3 of this. its just that the plays of DK are not as explosive as navi's. the reason why most people love navi is because of the fact that they deliver explosive plays that will take you off your seat. just because the commentators werent as hyped on commenting on DK doesnt mean they're biased.
DK once beat IG with that combo Morphling + Nature Prophet too. Perfect combo
y ofc, just check the winners bracket semifinals. Navi +3 chinese. Alone in the dark, etc. Thats the reason streamers love them, and of course, they were the champions before, and the amount of badges is 7 times higher for navi almost in every game, so navi is loved more for just being navi.
Im a fan of Na'Vi :')
Ty for HQ
i think its because navi picks are way more exciting perhaps,they are the team that uses rare heroes such as jug,fv and not only uses them,but fully utilized them and 1 of the team that doesnt give a crap to some of the heroes that is considered as imbalance by other team such as naga
I swear having an audience makes the game a shitload more entertaining! JUST LISTEN TO THEM CHEER HYPES ME UP!
this isnt a pub, these are high level players and can play any role better than you can
I wonder where can I get that Na'Vi hoody something like what Dendi is wearing . .. or if it is even available for purchasing
don get me wrong,im not saying that other team cant play that hero,its just that the way navi utilize that hero is not the same other team =)
Best comment ever.
Well Navi used Naga many times against IG and Jug is played by teams like navi or mtw and even EG sometimes ;)
Well there's like a big screen in there, where they can watch the actual game, so I don't understand what you're saying...
thats a common mistake in pubs. mkb, daedalus or such are items which do not pay for themselves unless its very late in the game. Pros get the items which are the most cost effective. Mek, consumables, wards, vanguards, arcane boots... after that active items like scythe of vyse, bkb, blink dagger, etc. only when the game is long enough and the carry has farmed will you see big damage items, most of the times they just get rapier outright, not mkb
I want to see pl in this t2
"Munches on a tree in celebration"
Made my day.
Drow is very damage dependent. Doesn't use magic spells and not a very strong farming hero. I can think of many heroes that can counter Drow and can be out carried.
Way better commentator than that guy who has a seizure whenever there is the least bit of encounter.
well mtw use it against na'vi in dreamhack final and took them out after that 2-1 ;) So yes some teams can play it well too !
Wow LightofHeaven got owned by Sylar in the lane. And he's Enigma, so he should have been the one with more last hitting power.
But they were. All tournament long.
EG vs IG=biased for EG
Na'vi vs Dk=biased for Na'vi
Na'vi vs LGD= biased for Na'vi
Na'vi vs IG=biased for Na'vi.
Dont get me wrong, they still commentated amazingly good, but it was just so painfully obvious.
We can only hope this wont be the case at TI3.
Na'Vi is the Defending Champs that Season of TI, Right ? Just asking :)
That's why he said the starting point :)
chess and checkers look the same on the outside with different figures and same background but one has more depth (dota) and is played by non-casual players while checkers (lol) is the easier game recommended for younger players
same goes for you..
by any means i agree with u with that, but u should consider the possibility that the commentators, as humans, can sometimes get carried away by the momentum. i guess u will say that almost every time they get carried away with NaVi 's moments and u might be right at some point but it cant be helped.. if NaVi is the team they support then their emotions will take over at NaVi 's moments. then again its their job to be fair so i guess they could try a bit harder
Game 1: Navi got 5k+ gold lead, "look at the gold difference between the two team. This just shows how dominant blah blah blah. Game 2: DK 5k+ gold lead, "gold difference doesn't tell the story. They got a gold lead, and that's it". Wow.. just wow. P.S I'm not a DK fan boy and am actually a fan of Na'vi. But this commentating... damn.
John Juice Well to be fair, Na vi had a gold lead of 14k over DK. And besides the chinese teams were pretty dominant this particular TI, pretty much knocked out every other eu or na team out of the internationals. Na vi was seen as the last and best hope against the chinese powerhouses.
its funny how the announcers get hyped up when navi has big plays, but seem like they don't care as much about dk's big plays
Yeah, it was the same all tournament with Na'vi games.
Kinda hurt to watch if you were a supporter of Chinese teams like me.
what if you just want to watch the gameplay, not long minutes of banning? just because you don't want to stare at the screen as they ban doesn't mean you think they aren't important
I think its because Na'vi were the only non chinese team left to be fair ..
That's it everybody, jump on the bandwagon of the top commenter and complain about Na'Vi bias, even though there's just as much praise for DK relative to how well they played.
its normal, NaVi is much more spectacular and therefor more popular.
@25:04 ZippO spins a fissure, doesn't touch Dendi, because he's Dendi. lol
Windrunner surviving with 21 CS OP
Кстати кто ни будь кроме меня обратил внимание , что комментатор назвал НАВИ "russian" ?!
Yeah, though I think Draskyl managed to be pretty much unbiased.
why do they not buy dmg items like mkb or bf when they farm so much?
25:02 "Doesn't touch Dendi... cuz he's Dendi."
Thats cool and all, but I think its unfair for the underdog team to not get as much love. I enjoy great play no matter who its from, and the announcers should be the same.
that was against iG in the final,and navi doesnt always pick naga,its just that they dont always use naga,and yes eg and mtw also use jug sometime,but can they execute like navi did?navi went against ig in winner brackets semifinal,gv out ds naga and tide,and beat the hell out of them...that buddy,isnt a thing that can be done easily
Game start @ 08:06
Well you didn't get my point. If your such a pro, then you should be. Ultimately my point was Puppey spent the majority of his time farming but wasn't able to have a huge impact on this game. Lycan is one of the best farming heroes in the game and out cs'ed. Maybe it's best that he played a support and will be able to benefit his team. You could be partially correct saying he's better than me, but I don't dedicate my life to dota. I actually have a graduate degree and a job.
As you can see, NAVI really need to ban morphling or antimage against DK, LGD or LGD.
ну наконец!
bans matter for the people PLAYING, not the people watching
Dondo the supamida
Dendi for example bought a rapier.
Not sure how you can go 3-4 as a lycan when you basically so farmed. Although Puppey is a great support player carrying is not really his thing....
Navi
Why drow ranger is not playable ? (:
this commentator sounds like a sportscaster lol
HOLLA HOLLA GET DOLLA
woooo
we want tobi!!!
im pretty sure china and russia do the same thing, when american teams play against their favorites im sure they only get hyped when their favorite does something and not so much the american players.
Tobiwan is different though,
who is the commentator?????? He always misses a kill!
how to get the treats!
every announcer or commentator/whatever is a little biased, these people are just humans,they have their preferences, and above all, they dont even influence the game, so i don't see your point
wow puppy play as carry ??
chen san Puppey is an exceptionally good player on the lycan which is why whenever na vi picks that hero, they give it to puppey.
cause navi is the best
for carries, they don't usuall buy wards, or items like mek and pipe, supports get that, same with actives like scythe of vyse, though bkb is usually needed on carries. who dafuq buys rapier in competitive games? mkb is important against evasion. arcane boots not bought on most carries and vanguard usually only bought on squishy melees, not even all of them
wow talk about bias commentators....
28:44 LOL AA
if you are a navi fan you'll understand it lol
Can't the commentator be a little more un-bias? Damn..
what? clearly ure a professional. who on earth buys rapier outright as a carry, how many carries take arcane boots or meks or vards and not many pick vanguards either...
*starts
0:04:51 OmG look at his nails O.o
31:10 "LightOfHeaveN with a nice hole" that's what she said.
wow dude chill out all i'm saying something else then u did, no problem right
DK got owned the next game..
i dun understand why people go to sit at there and support,they dont even know what the fuck had happen inside the game tho'==
not fair comentary sigh...
everybody is a fan of na'vi... well im not but most of the games in TI2 where casters cast navi's game ... all bias
read the top comment will you?
No.
Humans?wow i didn't know that. My point is exactly what I said, so if u cant figure that out maybe u should read it again...or buy hooked on phonics and try again.Ty
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are half decent people
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why navi is so popular? apparently asains play better dota
hipster is strong in this one
chinese team does rat dota... -__-'' that thing should be illegal.
WWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ UUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
true and i think navi is not that big of a good team
Felix Its 'not that good of a big team' atleast get the phrasing right. And as to how good they are, watch 'the play' by navi. That really solidifies their status as a top tier team. That particular team fight against ig is still talked about even after 5 years.
Bad pick Na`Vi
such a biased commentary
i absolutely agree.. You Are Boring.. hehehe
fake...
soo bored game
Zippo. worst farmer ever!
lol
лошки ))))
lame battle ever..i'm boring..zZzZz
Oggi Noor right, you're boring