Why I Chose Icon Stage 7 Suspension for my 4Runner
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2018
- Icon Vehicle Dynamics Stage 7 suspension setup for my 5th gen 4Runner - Loving this setup thus far! 4 weeks in and I couldn’t be happier! This is the detailed install video and WHY I went this direction with my suspension setup!
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Lift: OME 3" basic kit with medium springs
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Sliders: Slee
Front Bumper: C4 Fab LoPro
Tires: BFG KO2
Spacers: Spidertrax
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Love the channel, the editing, an ordinary guy having the rig of his dreams, no need to hate...
Such a good channel. I love the candid “I don’t know what I’m doing” because that’s me. I’m buying an FJ62 and trying to educate myself via UA-cam. Your channel is encouraging and inspiring. Thank You.
The most important point that you forgot to mention is that UCAs in the front fix camber when it comes to alignment. Yes they give you about 2inches of droop but the most important factor is that they keep your spec alignment which helps your car drive like it should and not wear your tires unevenly. Love how your rig looks man! Keep up the great content coming!
Don't forget about caster too. The stock UCAs on Toyotas give you almost 0 caster as it is, when you lift it you lose what little there is and the truck is a pain to drive straight.
Just got my Icon Stage 3 today on a 2016 Trail. Massive difference.
Shopping for my 5th gen upgrade to my first gen now and I've just been playing all these videos while I'm at work. Love how much you appreciate your wife and how much food she takes care of you with! Rad, informative channel man. I'm sure I'll be in here a lot more once I actually own one.
The factory makes the control arms purposefully weak so that in an accident they bend first because those arms are cheap and easy to replace. When you have really beefy aftermarket arms sometimes you can bend or break the mounts or subframe etc
Fred Mccue interestingly good to know!
which control arm? Rear upper?
Imma be real with you. I love your videos. They're like real genuine reviews and Intel off what uou feel as opinionated. You aren't pretending to know something you don't. Keep the videos coming man. Love them.
Thanks for keepin it real!
Jason,
I really enjoy watching all your videos and seeing how your 4Runner has progressed from the start. Congratulations on your latest and greatest lift and bumper upgrades. You are blessed to be able to have all those amazing upgrades and modifications done to your 4Runner. I have a 2006 Limited 4Runner and wish I could do the upgrades you have done, but unfortunately I don't have the money and hope someday in the future to start upgrading my 4Runner with the look and functions I want. God Bless and looking forward to more videos!
Wow. Your setup looks amazing! Great video. Can't wait to see the bumper installs.
Great video Jason!
I live in Ogden and have a Taco with Icon’s stage 9 system. I love it! Really glad you made this video describing why you went with Icon over other really great brands. Same reasons as me.
Been watching for about a year now.
Looking at purchasing an Icon kit for my 4runner as well. Good video, great editing. Love the undercarriage shots where you can see everything moving. It's neat seeing the body move independently of the frame within the body mounts. The 5th gen 4runner is the end result of 30+ years in the off road industry. My old 3rd gen was an absolute tank, I can't wait to build up my new 5th gen
Can tell the mechanic is a fellow Mountain Biker from his Scott t-shirt and the nice hardtails in the back of the garage. Props to him for that and for his good work.
Just bought a 2021 4Runner trail special edition. Love watching your videos and seeing what mods you do. Also these guys just being negative on your videos need to learn how to watch and enjoy or don’t click on the video. You obviously talk about how you are slowly learning and don’t pretend to know everything. Love the content keep it up man.
Man, I just purchased a 2019 Off Road Premium (Fiance wanted "leather" because of dog hair cleanup) and judging from some of these comments I probably shouldn't discuss or post any info about it! I enjoy your videos and also your personality that comes through in your enthusiasm while interacting with everybody around you. Keep doing what you're doing and enjoy the rig, your time with friends and family, and the beauty of the open spaces you find along the way!
Thanks Clayton! And congrats! You’re gonna love it!
Thanks for the info, that just cleared up so many questions as I prepare for an Icon Lift.
Damn so many people hating on Jason because he can afford the parts that he wants. More power to you man keep up the good work!
I agree, so much hate on some of these comments. Although I think you don't need any of all this stuff at all to get out there and have an adventure, it sure is nice to have and if you can afford it, why not!!
I dunno man.. Go watch his "Should I buy a Land cruiser video"
It's how he articulated the video, and the fact of him being in the bay, seeming to bother the installer. And he lack of knowledge towards the kit, he was just to spread out on his explanation.
Woo hoo! (haha) Love the content Jason! Glad you stuck with the 4Runner...it's a great platform.
I just ordered this same kit. first time watching your videos. Keep up the good work!
YESSSSSS!!!!!! What I’ve been waiting for!!
Good luck with this channel have a great journey!!
You have to appreciate this editing. So satisfying!
It’s what you like not what everyone else thinks
That is a hell of a setup!
Your rig is turning into a BEAST, Jason. Makes me want a 4r...
haha. Thanks! When I got home - my wife was like... whoa.. looks... tough! Loving it thus far! Love your taco though man! We need to find a time to get together!
4runner is the obvious choice, who would drive a Tacoma anyway...
Edit: I wanted a Taco, but the wife didn’t want the dog riding in the bed during inclement weather. I told her it’d toughen him up. No go. Love my 4runner despite 14mpg.
Would love to, man!
I’m just here following Mike from channel to channel 😂😂
What's kind of gas milage do you get with that set up?
The ride quality plus those CV angles are all I needed to see brother, I'm sold! Coming from a Pro Comp lift.... imagine your OME but 10x more stiff 😂
My name is Jason too. Looks AMAZING Jay.. ICON 7 is my dream lift. lol Congrats. Also. FYI. YOUR EMERGENCY BRAKE CABLE GUIDE that is attached to the stock drivers side REAR LOWER Control arm and has the E brake cable running THROUGH IT..... .... Get a pair of pliers and grab it and STRAIGHTEN it out so the the sheathing does not start being CUT by the cable guide. I just so happen to be a Mechanical Engineer by trade and a back yard mechanic for over 32 years. With owing over 100 cars in my life (hand to God) I've had my share of lift installs. So even with all my experience, I know enough to let a shop do it. I am to old to be rolling on the ground (47 lololol). Now I can afford to pay some (complaining about his job) 30 year old to do it. A lift really helps. If I had one I would do them all day long. lol Again, Congrats and God Bless. Oh and Thank you.
My questions if you don't mind.....
1- Does it come with Front Diff drop kit and brackets for the reservoir shocks, front and back.?
2- did you use the 52700 rear coil springs or the 3" over lander 52800 springs?
3- Were the rear brake lines also replaced during this process with extended ones?
Awesome suspension BTW!
Great looking set up Jason. Keep up the great work. 🔥🤘
Love the video you posted very informative. It helped out a lot. Thank you.
Would love to have this done to my 4Runner. I have the stage one icon lift. Cool vid thanks for sharing. Don’t worry about all the haters and negativity. Gonna sub and watch more of your cool vids.
I did Stage 7 in my 4runner v8. I am so happy 😊
"I did a lot of research"
Asks about rear track bar 5 minutes later...
"I don't think I have one now"
This cracked me up
Keep up the great work Jason!
I like this guy....he doesnt know what to buy so he bought the most expensive stage and be done with it....
lmao exactly what I was thinking
Im thinking that too
I cant believe how much movement is in the body mounts.. good video, thanks for sharing
Favorite bumper for 4runner, looks even better.. seems more practical.. come over landing to Costa Rica
Glad to see the installer using so much copper anti-seize, that will help keep it from squeaking. Should make it nice and quite.
Humble guy. I like that he admitted when he didn't know something, no BS.
I almost bought a 4R, but I ended up with my 4th Jeep JK Recon. I love the way the 4R rides compared to the JK, but there is no better looking off road vehicle than a lifted Jeep IMO. I love this build, Jason. I still follow you even though I'm no longer looking at the 4R.
The 4runner definitely sold me as the nicer looking off road rig. I thinks its cause every mall crawling jeep is lifted these days so it looks rather normal.
wohooo Jason! Love it!
Great video, very helpful.
Great setup! I think the rears are fine, but you know what it is that you want. After that kind of coin on a setup, I thought you'd be set. Everyone knows their rides and how we want them. Take care! 👍⚡
Wow!!!
“One less Hater” here Jason.
So glad you like the new ride. Isn’t all the added articulation great? It really makes the truck even with having the KDSS already.
Can’t say enough about the adjustable shocks either. You definitely did it right. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks drew! Loving the setup thus far!
Yeah, KDSS & that adjustable suspension - looks like a great setup.
Hafa Adai JASON I love what you do keep vídeos going .
Great video Jason... thank you. I am anxiously looking forward to the front bumper video. I’m curious of the benefit of a full bumper. Thanks again
Luis De La Cruz Munoz he lives in deer country, one collision pays for itself. Just like the Aussies who are surrounded by Kangaroos and need full bull bars...
Stewart Vassau Makes sense. Down here in south fla, it’s hard to find a deer when your trying to let a lone hit one.
Great lookin 4Runner. Been catching up on all your videos from the beginning as I just bought a TRD ORP for the fam and myself. I’ve enjoyed them all and learned a bunch. Keep it up. And let me know if you’re sellin any parts! Lol. Bumper and skids next for me.
After having an Xterra I was planning on getting a Tundra next. But having watched what you have done so far with your 4runner I have changed my mind.
Ahhh. But the tundra has the 5.7 liter!! Make sure you consider the increase in power!
Get the tundra!! More HP!!!
Very different vehicles. The Xterra is on the small side, the 4Runner is a big midsize and the Tundra is just plain big. I borrowed my ex-brother-in-laws 2nd Gen Sequoia for the Mojave Trail & Owen's Valley, Death Valley, etc. It's a completely different vehicle though I loved it in it's own right. I was surprised how comfortable I could be wrangling such a monster.
Very Informative, thanks !!
That's a nice and great setup. Your 4runner looks bad ass.
It's crazy how far you've come and how much Moolah you've dropped haha Cheers!
4Runner of the year!!!!!!
NOT EVEN ......LOOK AROUND!
Holy-stuffed-thanks-giving-turkey. Cool up grades!
You have a nice setup. Asking a mechanic questions while he is working is not a good idea. You can tell you were distracting him because he gave u very vague/brief answers. Hes trying to concentrate on the task. So u got him trying to install the stuff correctly, and answer your questions. You need to let the guy concentrate so he can do his job correctly and not make mistakes. It's better to ask your questions before or after the job. Or add narration during editing.
Moabman yep, the owner is a dilrod
Yep. Been there, before. "Sir, I don't mind talking to you, just let me know what you want me to do; focus on your vehicle getting the work done properly and efficiently, or stop what im doing so I can focus on you."
To his credit, he is trying to glean information that some of us that have worked with our hands for years, seem to have within our double helixes - which I can respect. He is just doing it the wrong way, at the wrong time. If people would use their Google devices for something other than social media, the World would be a better place.
I just remembered a few times in my early years of wrenching where I had a customer asking me all kinds of questions while I was trying to work. I politely left the vehicle, went to my manager and asked him if he wanted to pay me to be interviewed, or to perform the necessary repairs to the vehicle. Of course he came out, took the customer back to the corrale where he belonged, and I finally got the vehicle finished.
I will always say that Informed customers are better that the alternative, but damn...
@@brawldawg8729 Obviously - he is getting them a lot of free marketing. I'm sure they dont mind. He probably drives enough business to them to make it worth talking to them.
Congratulations !
I want that Icon setup... been dreaming of it since my first overland trip in my 4Runner. I need some stronger coils before my Baja trip, but I don't have the budget for a stage 7 this year. I'll probably just do something like the OME coils for now. I'm curious to see how well your CBI back bumper holds up, I've heard both good and bad about their rear bumpers hold up. I had a good laugh when you brought out the cookies. They look exactly like the ones we make here (secret ingredient is vanilla pudding). They are fantastic. Still loving your channel... wish I had enough time to video more of my adventures.
I’m curious how it’ll all set once I adjust the front higher some. I ran the OME setup for 2 years before I went to this setup. Super happy with it, but I also wouldn’t have done it any other way.
I didn’t know your ride had KDSS. Wow! Stage 7 icon! Pretty damn impressive!!
Great video!
I own a 4Runner and found your channel because I am thinking about upgrades. Your videos are awesome. Shrug off the negative commenters and keep doing what your are doing. Videos are not easy to edit, keep it up my man.
Thanks Scott!
woo hooo gotta love a 4R
Wohoo!!!
Always like your videos. Great suspension for sure. Probably 6x cost of your OME 👍
Just saw this for the first time and WOW an Icon Stage 7. A big bucks kit but might be worth it in your case. I own a 19 TRD Pro and haven't came across a time that I would need that upgrade. I don't have any type of trailer to pull around however. Your 4R is equipped very nicely.
Solid build!
Thank you Miguel!
Jason, nice upgrades with the new suspension. My brother has a silver 4 runner just like yours. We are wondering if you could let us know your previous lift and tire size. I know you’re a busy guy, but we would greatly appreciate your response. Thanks a bunch. Love your videos. Always high quality and the best of scenery. Thanks a bunch, Dennis
If you're going to do it... Do it right ;) Look forward to the vids with the suspension working on the trails!
The mechanic seem annoyed with all the questions and you hovering over him.
I was annoyed too. And I skipped thru the b.s.
This is a snarky comment, but from these videos I get a sense that Jason is an annoying guy in general
Well when he’s dropping 10k i guess they don’t care if he’s annoying
29 mechanic's agree
@@Driftcorpz I got pissed watching him ask. Woulda told him to go in the waiting room.
Woo whooo! Nice!
Definitely..... Wooo Hoooo!! 😃
Awesome thanks
Love the video
All those goodies!
Great video
Here we see Jason “justifying” his purchases. This is a result of 2 communities clashing and bashing heads. This is a result of people being “too critical” and very negative. Whether you’re a hardcore rubicon crawler-Wheeler dude or an instagram weekend warrior - the fact is - we are all entitled to use our funds and resources to buy things we like. Also, as men, can’t we all just say we love the GEAR? And MODS? What a bunch of children we all sound like. Smh.
Like like like!!
If you got it, flaunt it.
@Duncan Macleod Do you heal yourself when you're sick? Do you form the child in the womb? Stop the "real men do all their own wrenching" crap....If you can, do it...If not, take it to someone who can.
Love the videos. Any regrets or lessons learned from all your upgrades? I’m looking at the stage 7 setup and had concerns with it working with the KDSS on m TRD off-road. And info on integration with kdss? Thanks.
Definitely enjoy watching the videos. makes me miss my old 97 Tacoma and 99 4 runner, but I did luck out on a quite capable rig that's totally stock and goes everywhere all my friends in their fairly modded Toyotas and jeeps go. So until my $7000.00 H3 with Adventure pkg stops getting the job done, I'll just watch and dream about the day I win the lottery and can have a new Toyota lol. Keep making vids so I can live the Toyota life vicariously through you =)
The rear upper control arm links are designed that way to give torsional resistance. The bushings have no flex in them so when your suspension articulates or you take a corner it's relying on the sway bar and those upper links to keep the vehicle flat. You would notice added body roll without them. Maybe the Kdss will pick up the slack.
Fantastic! Thank you!
Hey Jason,
Just remember when you increase (or decrease) the preload on your coil overs you will need to get another alignment.
No, alignment person won’t adjust the rear arms. Better flex because the OEM sleeve doesn’t rotate within the bushings whereas those do. The reason you need to reset the bushings on all OEM bushings after doing a lift otherwise you’ll tear the OEM bushings.
Its all for looks I've been on black diamond trails in my stock suspension no problem.
Another good video man, tough crowd in these comments though. Truck looks awesome!
Thanks man!
Wooohoooo! 😂🤘🏼
Now , I’m thinking about the conversation with my wife about why I should change my suspension ....lol. I might use your language, hehe
Love watching your channel. Can you tell me what you use for editing your videos. You have great scene cuts and voice over in some of your videos. I am
trying to get started but have not found a video edit softward that is easy to use and won't break the bank.
Keep up the great work.
Great video. How was the on road ride quality with the Icon? I hear it can be a little too stiff. Been looking at the Icon stage 2 but still kinda on the fence with some of the reviews and the stiffness of the ride. Is this something you have experienced?
Nice Rig 🤙😎
Does CBi typically do Icon Suspension or was that a one off for the channel? Very interested in having them do the same bumpers, skids, sliders, and Icon suspension?
Jason you should mention that you only need the rear track bar for KDSS equipt 4Runners. Although the Stage 7 comes with it, my Stage 2 needed it because of the KDSS so it was an extra cost.
Having owned Jeeps and Toyotas.... Jeep makes so much more sense for an offroad vehicle. Parts are so much cheaper, and so much easier to work on.
Agreed! solid front axle over IFS all day, but I do love my FJ for being a good commuter, and also a fun trail tackler!
good stuff
Jason, I too will be going with an Icon lift soon and already have Icon Rebound wheels. With the KO2 tires and Icon offset, do you get any rubbing requiring a BMC? I just want to know what I'm getting into.
"You don't need it but you have it" lol!
recently i got a 2020 tundra .... wife say i want new pilot as hers getting old... so i looked online got a 2018 dark Blue 4runner on way "new to me" as you say and 1st thing is this set up icon i think is best for what you get so i'm looking forward to it thanks for info
Great video once again Jason. Were you in Florida helping your friends in the aftermath of the hurricane?
I wasn’t able to go back. Which worked out because I had internet and reliable phone service here - was more help that way! I could answer the phones! Gaha
I still enjoy the channel, but from an editing/viewing standpoint the constant cut ins and cut backs are very distracting and frustrating to the flow of the video. It’s become somewhat of a signature edit for you, but it’s very noticeable in this video. It used to be amusing for a quick cutback to explain one thing in depth, but when it happened 4 times in a span of 10 minutes it takes away from the overall production. Just as I’d feel I was getting into what was going on you’d cut back to a 2 minute ramble about something. Anyway, just one persons perspective.
Have been enjoying the truck updates-it builds the anticipation for what’s yet to come. Looking forward to more adventures-come explore Texas, would love to see your take on Big Bend!
it's the sole reason i fast forward his videos.. he has good shots off road,, but **** man stop with the cut outs and rambling... Ill go back to venture 4wd channel and be happy.
Except that venture4wd never reads or answers the commentary in his videos. I find it a frustrating dead end commentary channel.
It’s kinda like watching “Blimpy explains 4x4”. Lol
Great video as usual! What is the weight of your trailer approx.?
If I had a 4R I would have done the same set up! 👍🏽👍🏽
You can tell he really did his research. “What’s this piece? What’s that piece?”
😂😂
I always do! And I use technical terms too. I smart.
Hi Jason, great videos! Do you have a transmission cooler installed? I am planing on towing a small camper with my T4R (3500lbs), and I was wonder if it is really necessary, since it most likely it will void the manufactures warranty...
Great video.. thanks for sharing..
Are you using wheel spacers?
Looks like Christmas came early for Jason! CBI and Icon sponsored the kits and video?
Nice film. I have icon stage 7 on my FJ cruiser as well. I went with the Billet aluminum parts. However it was not necessary. Looks cool but the metal tubes would have been fine. The system makes lots of noise. But you know that already. I've been running the setup for about 5 years. With no problems. One thing you might want is. Total chaos front lower control arms. The race version gives you more ground clearance. And man are they stronger than stock. I even jump my FJ now and then. No problem doing that ether. Have you had any trouble with your setup?
Around 18:30, you should where the control arms go and I've never seen any video do that before. Thank you so much!