What Is The Best Guitar Rig For $500?
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- What is the best guitar rig if you are on a budget? You probably want something easy to setup, super loud with good tone... and for all of those things the mini amps might be the top contender. I wanted to make a video at put all the mini amps; bogner ecstasy mini, Soldano SLO mini, Diezel VH micro and the Friedman BE mini, through their paces. Comparing them in a mix and in the room as well as seeing if they can actually keep up with a drummer in a rehersal.. Spoiler, they can!
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0:00 Intro
0:45 The stuff I chose
2:46 In a Mix Comparison
4:23 Diezel VH Mini
8:36 Friedman Mini BE
11:29 Soldano SLO Mini
14:23 Bogner Ecstasy Mini
16:58 Through a 4x12 for reference
18:33 Do They Keep Up With A Band?
20:33 Final Thoughts..
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Just buy a crate full stack for 100$ and a 16pack miller high life
Metal zone, bbe sonic maximizer, and the Kerry King emg pickup set with the gain booster switch. Don't forget the cheapest monster cables.
THIS IS THE WAY
Metal Zone into a Metal Zone into a Metal Zone...
Nailed it. Back when i was playing live, all i drank was miller highlife tallboys. I had an engl fireball 60 tho lol
This is the way
We're in a golden age for bedroom players right now. Nevermind all the amp sim and modeling options out there, even these inexpensive solid state heads sound great and are plenty loud for band practice. Wild compared to the Spider 2 I started out with.
That 10 band eq is the shining star in this one! Damn that thing makes those amps sound so much heavier.
Wow!!!! You truly just helped me figure out what route to take as far as getting an amp goes. I don't play in bands anymore so I'm not worried about these little amps holding up in band practice or at a live show...
Mainly to just play at home and for home recording purposes.
Now to pick which one to get!!!!
The video we’ve all been waiting for ❤
It's good to see all these mini amps compared back to back. Great video, keep up the good work. I recently bought the Diezel mini and I'm running it through an old marshall jcm 800 4x12 . I like it, don't use any boost pedals with mine just crank it loud. I did find setting the gain past 7 it gets a little fizzy sounding and when i set the deep dial past 6 the amp gets muddy. Other than that it sounds good, great for recording. put an sm57 in front of my 4×12 and got a good take right away.
These things sound surprisingly good for what they are. For me personally, I would go with a Jet City 50H and an old Peavey, Crate, Carvin, etc. cab. With patience, you can get the amp for $300 or less and $200 should be plenty for a reasonable cab.
Peavey Bravo is a sleeper. Classic 30 and Delta Blues are amazing too. clean, rock, and Metal easy.
Ha! My comment is in the video at the beginning! The SLO and Bogner minis in particular sound brutal and I feel like it’s hard to go wrong with these mini amps for a nice, inexpensive metal tone
Glad you did this video as I just adopted a celestion 70 80 and g12t 100 that need a nice home in a cabinet along with the soldano and maybe the bogner
Ok Taylor this is one of my favourite gear videos in the last few weeks I watched, I am really curious how they all sound in person in my apartment, will have to start with that Bogner for sure 😮🤘🏻
That’s my favorite one
Great video! 🤘🏼
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video as usually. How do you find them comparing to joyo in terms of sound?
I have the Bogner and have an MXR 10 band in the loop (which I do with all my amps) and love it. Need the SLO next. These little things rip.
DUDE 10 BAND FOR LIFE!
@@TaylorDanley \m/
Your vocalists sounds pretty sick in that practise clip, raw af scream on him.
Thanks dude. It's Jamie from I Declare War if you are familiar with them.
@@TaylorDanley Nice one, kinda thought it rung a bell. I remember listening to Songs for the sick when it came out. Love the last track on it, cough out the sick. He's some throat on him.
as soon as I heard the vocals I was like sounds exactly like Jamie Hanks haha
Get a Hughes & Kettner Tubemiester 18. I have one & they sound great. You can switch the wattage from 1,5 or 18. I use 5 in my home , you can gig with it on 5 or 18. Phenomenal little head.
Easy
Quilter Overdrive 200
Or Orange Super Crush
Those are toys in comparison to either.
I bet the sonic maximzer would clean those amps up they work well with solid state stuff
JOYO heads are a great option too and of course Boss Katanas.
Damn! This Demo was f-ing gooood 🎸🤘💕🙏🙏🙏
Construct a deep wide 2×12 sealed and rear ported and I bet it will sound badass.. Birchwood baffle 1/4" thick back..
The MySpace Tom was a nice touch. ;)
I prefer the soldano sound :)
Just something about those Soldano's that do it for me
Same here man.
Me too
I think these little mini heads are a decent option for beginner guitarists. In fact they are 1000% better than what I started on in the 80's.
But I honestly think they would be easy to outgrow. The next step being a tube lunchbox head for $200.00 more on the used market. I think a $700.00 rig with a tube lunchbox head and that HB cab would be a better investment. It's an amp you could grow into rather than almost immediately outgrowing.
I have the full on Soldano and Bogner amps for gigging but i have the Soldano/Bogner and Friedman minis at home and trust me you don’t outgrow them, i never turn my big amps on at home, these are awesome.
Bro sick Warrior u got there
My pick: Used Peavey Bandit or Marshall Valvestate combo.
Orange CR120 2X12 combo is the answer
That's what I use lol
I'd stay away from the Harley Benton cabs until Celestion gets their speaker issues sorted. YOu can get a used Engl Pro cab from early 2000s for around 250 bucks and it'll sound infinitely better.
Orange Micro Terror or Micro Dark FTW!
@juanmacaceres2702 100%! They are louder because they use a class AB power amp vs the class D in the Friedman and for mw personally, they sound better and fuller
Just snagged a mint 6505+, full stack england v30 for 500$ the guy has a baby on the way and had to make room
You just got 2000$ worth of stuff for 500. Unreal.
@@slaygadethicide not really wild, down here in south TX lots of equipment gets sold pretty low estate sales, word of mouth and rarely pawn shops once in a while have something good that's been sitting for to long and will make a deal
But all jokes aside the little soldano you have in there is a ferocious sounding lil critter
WTF?! Hahaha, my man D! Excellent addition to the video :)
I want them all
The mini Bogner sounds incredible...
Easily my fave
@@TaylorDanley it just cuts through the mix like a knife! Very clear and blended in.
I absolutely agree. Aesthetics of gear really matter imo.
Bogner and soldano All the way 👍👍 and for the little coin very sweet
These amps are insane my micro deizel keeps up with my deathcore band good backup if ur main takes a shit like mine did katanas power amp burned up so had to get a head with like no money so I went on zzounds and grabbed one very impressed esp wen ur main is gunna be at least a month lol
Damn that track melted my face!
Nasty riffs! big chuggus over here
Thanks dude!
would you really rather have a solid state nameplate than a tube joyo tho?
Holy crap I thought your Bogner was broken cause mine sounds way better than that. I have all but the diesel and I like the soldano just a hair better than the Bogner and am not really a fan of the Friedman I am gonna have to get a god mode pedal though that’s cool!
Damn, you have all the classic death metal amps.
Why not katana mk2 212? It will be really loud enough to keep up and not just sounding good, but also very versatile
Peavey Bandits are easy to come by for a couple hundred dollars. While a 112 combo doesn't look the part, it can definitely do the trick. And you can always plug in an external cab if you need to.
love that Warrior (except the reverse headstock)...what series is that?
X series, WRXG? Something like that.
@@TaylorDanley thanks a lot!
edit: holy hell, did not know the v55 went up in price so much
I would go with a Bugera V55hd and whatever 412 is not expensive (Harley Benton, Bugera, etc etc). At the very least, I will have a loud clean amp to build a board in front of. At worst, an average sounding tube amp on the cheap.
No cleans!! Lol I hear you brotha!! Im a rocker!!! F clean
I play Boss Katana 100w mk2. Hear me out. I have never turned the volume at max because Im scared. It's really lound and has a great tone potential. There's also a 0.5w function that I use all of the time so my neighbours won't have to keep up with me the same way my drummer has to.
I have the head katana 100. I've run it through 2x12s, 4x12s, and a pair of 2x10s. Amp sounds great once you learn what you were doing. You have to get into the masters to fix some freqs. You should really mess with your volumes. You'd be surprised how differently it responds.
your neighbors bang the skins too? Kewl
@@tomwilson9010 I have. 100 watt mk2 and the ducking power amp blew so it's in the shop I got the deizel micro unplug it in to my line 6 slanted 4 12 and at about half past noon it keeps up with my deathcore slam band the deizel sounds better out the box then katana this vid don't do it justice to how loud it is
For just a tad more I would go for a Joyo Mjolnir and a 1x12 cab(if you want to save money).
100w boss katana or headrush mx5 with headrush 2000w frfr. or try to find a marshall vs8100 i use all 3. By the way Taylor your videos are getting better and better. I always play them right away when they pop up.
where can I get a MX-5 and any FRFR for 500 dollars?
Thanks dude! Yeah you could go boss katana, and that's arguably louder and a better value... but when I had one, I straight up never played it. I found it so uninspiring that I just didn't want to use it. That's a BIG factor for me personally.
@@KidNato Oh my goodness I’m so sorry. I thought they had rush MX five was 299. Holy crap. It’s been a while since I bought it and I seriously thought it was much cheaper than $500. My bad. Thanks for catching that!
@@TaylorDanley I totally get it boss! I kind of felt the same way with the Joyo zombie Even though it is a pretty sick little lunchbox amp.
@@matthewearl9824 nothing to be sorry about I just thought you were holding out on some killer deals? LOL MX-5 is a bad lil mama jama. Even at the 499 mark I think its still a great value, I just wish they made it a little more "metal friendly" out of the box.
A katana 100 2×12 is a good option for volume and decent tones
9:55 - Relatable content every time I play.
😂
I can’t stand modern players/UA-camrs but I like your channel. Also, screw clean tones. I play through three amps at once and I don’t think I’ve heard their clean tones yet.
I'm glad you enjoy it!
@@TaylorDanley since you’re a boost nerd as well, I wanted to ask you- I’m getting issues where my overdrive pedals kill my sustain and certain notes, especially a low A#, dissipate into a high feedback in like one second whenever I use the boost. This happens on both a Peper’s Dirty Tree and a MXR Sugar Drive. I don’t know if the problem would resolve if the boost was in the effects loop, but this would be difficult considering I’m splitting my signal into 3 amps. I love the boosted tone and am trying not to lose that attack. I am running a compressor after the boost to try to salvage some of the sustain. It really hates that low A# though. What do you recommend?
it looks cool"
What model warrior is that?
So the Bogner is the fave?
I do have that same cab and it rips ...and I have the Katana mkii head on top...not much more than a 500 buck rig and tons more tones and options and capabilities...but you know this already...those heads you have here though rip as well... wouldn't mind having one or two for funzies
Was about to make this recommendation as well
@@CABALDRUMMER yesssss just a ton of options for the money sound wise and it's an interface too if you don't have one...has basically all the boss pedals built into it...hard to beat it if you need lots of versatility.
@@darklight4815 agreed I used it as my main demo recording rig a little while back. Boss software for tone tweaking is great. It also works good for bass too
1:12
You don’t have to lie to kick it bruh
118dB - Holy fuck thats loud! Impressive little thing. AND i hope you guys are wearing GOOD ear protection☝️
Tinitus is no joke, trust me🙉
yes, absolutely use ear protection at those volumes. I’m amazed at my intolerance to it now as I’m older and take better care of what hearing I have left. I even wear them in my car sometimes when I turn the music up loud 🤣
Affordable Modeler/FX Processor (Mooer/Ampero/NUX) + Solid state power amp (HB GPA-100) instead of this lunch box amp.
Best metal channel tester shit I've ever seen bro..keep it up I could listen to you at work all day..my wife hates this shit 😂 I torture her with my peaveys daily
How do you have the 10 Band EQ set?
You can’t see it?
Hey Bro.
I have an SLO mini. And have paired it up with a
Marshall 2x12 8 ohm.
Which other Mini
Would You add to this
The other 2x12 is gonna be a 8 ohm
Marshall as well.
I hope that you understand what I’m asking.
Depends, if you want it to match… like if you had 2 guitar players, just get another one. But other than that, the bogner is by far my personal favorite 🤷♂️
Soldano or fleshrot 60w ?
The Bogner Ecstasy sounds like old Perseverance era Hatebreed
But I want 'Satisfaction Is The Death of Desire' era Hatebreed. 😒
I think the Bogner and Friedman sounded similar. The Soldano sounded the most different
What do you think about the BanTamp zombies sound
That's his video for it
Diezel and Friedman mixed for some Adam Jones. 😂
Hotone
Just from what I can hear from the video, Friedman sounds more interesting, but at the same time it's harder to dial in and seems to be drier?
While Diesel sounded more generic, but more versatile too
Why wouldn’t you just go metal zone DI and no cab sim or IRS?
why trigger a kick under rehearsal can't he just tune his kick drum
when they will show up used i will get one
They are only 30 bucks less if you find them used. Might as well purchase a new one
The Soldano sounds so good. The Friedman sounds so bad.
He’s not using it correctly 🤷🏻♂️🫤
Joyo Sweet Baby all tube $229 new (with a good speaker)
not ideal for metal I imagine but awesome with pedals for much else
YeS bUt DoEs iT dO 60s cLeAnS?
😂 we'll never know...
Must say those riffs are fucking tasty
I still can’t get over the sound and tone of Friedman amps. They never sound good to me and this little One sounded worse
dont boost any amplifier, only eqs in the loop if there needed
The Friedman is shockingly dark.
By comparison, but on it's own it's very mid heavy... kind of what you would expect from that style of amplifier.
@@TaylorDanley Its kind of what I don't like about them, missing those marshall upper mid harmonics. Not a bad thing,, just different.
I would grab a mic and P.A. if you need a LOUDER AMP!
So amp+mic+pa... you are now well over $500
@@TaylorDanley Not if you look harder....there are used options.
@@TaylorDanley I just found everything for $400.00
1 Kustom p.a. active 50 watt speaker with mixer and a sn57 is well under $300.
I posted a link but got deleted....musician friends has the p.a. for $119.
Just wish these amps had XLR outputs in them.
Just use a DI BOX
@@savoirfaire8979 using the speaker outputs would that work?
@@jesseparrish9198 that would fry the mixer.
Yerasov Bulldozer Mini to the studio)..No worse than all these Bogner's.
Is it me or do they sound the same?! Fuzzy and no low end.
If I had to build a tourable metal rig for under $500 there is really only one option, and it has been the same option for the past 15 years. A used Bugera 6262 and a beat up 4x12. That rig has gotten countless bands through their first few years of gigging until they could upgrade to something more professional. Anything else, such as mini amps, or even lunchbox tube amps, requires way too many compromises and don't get loud enough for some venues.
The friedman way cheaper than the other 2
Those Chinese v30's sounds terrible. Nice comparison tho!
no tiene sentido probasr esos mini head con pedales, el review debe garantizar al oyente el verdadero sonido del head
Just get a metal zone
That's a good point.
The Friedman is my least fav
Is it me or does he look stoned in the intro
I have an 8 month old baby.. I don't sleep often.
@@TaylorDanley that's rough buddy, take care!
solid state not so great
Another "influencer" shilling cheap-o garbage to the cons00mers.
The reason that he doesn't want to do a "tear down", is because
they are all the same product inside slightly different cases and
modeling amp firmware that could possibly be more accurate on a
device that you already own.
Chances are good that there is probably a jumper on the motherboard
that would allow you to switch between all 4 "amp tones".
Yes, they all sound like a$$
WHY ALL SOLID STATE, you could get an actual tube amp for that price (the pEAVEY 6505 MH OR THE ORANGE dARK tERROR COME TO MIND AS wayyyy BETTER AMP....FRIGGING BOUTIQUE SOLID STATE SAVE US PLEASE FORM SOLID STATE MODELED AFTER TUBE AMPS!!!!!(my caps were on backwards)
I don't think you can get a tube MH and a cab for around $500
@@TaylorDanley here in Southern California 4 x 12 go for next to nothing. OfferUp CL etc
@@TaylorDanley examples. 1960b t75s plywood back 200. Krank Rev cab 4x12 200. Randall 4 x 12 with jags. 120.
@@TaylorDanley Used market you get em for around 250 aLL DAY LONG(same price as that solid state)...then pair it with you HB cab, which if those are really celestion v-30 and not some celestebron, or celestetron speakers...that seems like a good deal even if you need to build a better box (I bought mine for 250 and put some led strips in it for 20 bucks and it is a little killer, I am going to give it to my granddaughter when she gets old enough to play...she will start all tube baby!!!, I even have a special guitar picked out for her, I got a Fender Tele in lake placid blue with a John 5 signature in trade a few years ago and while not top of the line, is certainly a servicable guitar and would be great for a beginner!!