Yes, found it - WTHR 13 news article, but also other places. "The Delphi Task Force requested the FBI to remove the physical descriptors listed on the flyer. Investigators do not want to discourage or stop the public from submitting a tip because the person does not specifically meet the height, weight, and age description. Investigators would like the public to focus on the photo of the man on the bridge, the voice recording, and second sketch that was released by law enforcement."
Yep. American journalist Tom Rosenstiel says that "Journalism’s first obligation is to the truth," and "its first loyalty is to citizens." That's what Lawyer Lee is doing for us right now.
I am a retired tv/radio news director and I would have LOVED to have LL as a reporter! She’s thorough and easy to understand without all the hoopla.GREAT job LL!
Thanks so much for getting out there to show us all if the relevant sights. It's helps so much be be able to see these places as RA and the girls would have seen them.
@@rocketsfan6116 I agree, and I am also not sure that they were killed where they were found. I think they were taken somewhere else for the Odinist sacrifices, them placed and staged where they were found. And the local law enforcement were the worst possible group of dimwits to investigate these murders, and I think the disgusting judge may be helping them to cover their asses. No public viewing of the proceedings, putting plastic bags over the courtroom cameras, so there is no video record being made, and making it very hard and confusing for the public attendees. Prosecution losing tons of video evidence. Come on, something is very wrong in this proceeding and it stinks to high heaven.
I wouldn't be surprised if it linked back to some "protected" government officials or the judge herself (considering how she's handled the case thus far).
BG wasn't sitting on the bench: the girls were. They were taking a pic before they left. The meta data on that picture was around 1:26 p.m. They passed BG walking in as they were walking out.( He said he got there at 1:30 p.m.) If he had been sitting there, they would have had more time to observe him as they passed: that was not the case. He was walking with "purpose" and they were walking also, so the encounter was brief. In their defense, I was a terrible judge of someone's age when I was 16. The vibe he gave off was menacing, so there's no doubt the girls got the heck out of there.
This is an incredible park. I was imagining something not nearly as nice. I wouldn’t think twice about letting my teenagers walk the trails at a park like that. This whole story is so heartbreaking.
@@ambroseacres if you ever were able to visit the trails there in Delphi very often you would see how many hoodie people show up out of nowhere.. it’s nowhere to drop off 2 teenage girls
@@Skunk-ed I live in Ohio and if I were fearful of people wearing hoodies, I wouldn’t be able to leave my house. It seems like hoodies are a Midwest staple as far as fashion goes.
What an excellent idea! I wondered why law enforcement didn't just try to find a 5ft 6in man to walk the same bridge and then compare the height in the images. Lee, you're the best! Thanks for all the work you've put into covering this case! You've really put a lot of effort into getting to the truth. I would trust their initial visual memories more than their memory of time stamps. It's very possible they saw someone connected to the murders, but it doesn't seem to be Richard Allen.
That has always seemed like such a practical, simple idea to me. Surely it couldn't be that hard for some photography expert or math whiz to figure out.
The phone camera has a known angle, so one needs to know where the phone was and where bridge guy was and then you can calculate the height. I don't think the video reconstruction will be accurate to within 2 inches. 5'4" vs by 5'6" - unlikely that it will be conclusive. I would put more hope into trying to reconstruct the acoustic source of the voice from the video.
@@peterarcher7531 depending on whether the figure has a hat or is his hair and how exactly his head is angled, you'll not be able to differentiate between 5'4" and 5'6".
A "february melt" is always so welcomed in the Midwest. That it fell on a day-off of school must have been such a treat. That a predator(s) killed those two young girls just enjoying their young lives as we want young people to do. Infuriating. And then it seems the case has been poorly investigated. So sad. Thank you for sacrificing your comfort to report on this case.
Lee, this was an excellent video. Thank you so much for taking us along on your walk. It really helps to actually see where the girls had been. It’s a beautiful area, and it is easy to see why people would want to get out and walk there.thank you again for all you are doing to bring the truth of this trial to us. There has been way too much secrecy, that’s for sure.❤
Thank you so much Lawyer Lee for all of your hard work on this very sad case!Outstanding coverage! So glad you found a way to get a little more rest by having someone to wait in line in the middle of the night. You need your rest to be able to give us all your professional reporting. Yes, you’re a lawyer and a journalist! 😉
I’m currently following the case from Australia, Only thing I can say at this point is there is too much reasonable doubt at this point to find him guilty. No DNA evidence, no confident eyewitnesses. If this guy is a local in the town, everybody knows who he is so when they seen bridge guy or the other guy in the black did they not notice that it was Richard Allen if he’s such a well-known person in the town?. Unfortunately, a bullet at the scene that has not been shot through the barrel just isn’t enough evidence for me to be 100% convinced that it was him.
If people did suggest him to the tip line because they thought it was him in the video, the police already interviewed him, they knew he was there because he told them early in the investigation.
The bullet cycled through his gun, it would leave the same marks whether it was cycled or shot… watch Lauren on Hidden True Crime, she did a live with some ballistic experts last night, very informative, that unspent bullet cycled through that gun, just can’t be a coincidence, he put himself there at that time, his car shows up on the Hoosier Harvest video…he confessed, his phone from then is mysteriously missing, I do think someone else could have been involved but I think all of these things add up to murder.
Thank you for being there. I trust your opinion. I am having a difficult time w/this case. I can neither stand watching an innocent man be railroaded by LE, or watch a guilty man try to get away with a horrendous crime. I have thought he has been railroaded, but, I don’t know.. Is it possible bench guy had a Bluetooth in his ear; and that is y he ignored trail girls?
Really? The state has managed to get a LOT of important evidence stricken, including LE sketches! WHY? Wouldn't you want the defense to make fools of themselves if the Odinist theory is so crazy? The fact is that guards at Westville were wearing Odinist symbols and when ordered to stop, one guy had it tattooed on his face. It's not crazy, it's very plausible. A lot of people never expand their worldview beyond church, y'all would be astonished and horrified by the amount of alternative religions being practiced out there.
Because of Covid, we have become a custom to seeing people wear some kinds of masks. But in 2017 why would anyone have been wearing a mask, and would it not have been totally conspicuous to everyone?
According to one UA-camr who is at the trial. The witness demonstrated how he walked. He had his lower half of his face buried in his zipped-up jacket. I have not heard of any mask.
As I was watching this, I thought that was your voice! And here you are. So ma’am why won’t the judge allow the jury to go to the bridge? She seems pro- prosecution when she should me neutral the “ trier of the facts” thank you!!
None of the witnesses described a short, middle-aged man. Allen is 5'4" in height and the most noticeable trait for description is that he is a short man. I don't know who these witnesses saw, but it is very odd that no one has considered that there could have been more than one man in the park that day.... several men in the park that day.... and these witnesses are all describing different men, none of whom were Richard Allen.
@@nhmountains5683 They said they saw the person in the video. They did NOT say they saw the person sitting in the courtroom. Not ONE of them said they saw Richard Allen. Details matter.
And the trial is not over yet. There isn’t going to be one specific thing that proves RA is guilty. It will be a list of several things. Then the jurors will decide once they are told to by the judge.
And as RA was the manager at CVS wouldn’t everyone say ‘hey I saw the manager from CVS’ or even say ‘RA was out there, I saw him’ if the knew him by name. It’s a small town, I just don’t understand how no one spot him.
The walk about that you've provided answers many of my questions about the site of the murder. What is that saying? "A picture is worth a thousand words." Peace be with you at that seemingly calm place, Mrs. Lee.
It's well known that many times a witness's identification is inaccurate. You can poll 100 witnesses to an accident and there will not be 100% agreement to the accuracy of details. Richard Allen should have been investigated more thoroughly at the very beginning, especially since he voluntarily provided information. They should have taken his DNA and his gun/ammunition.
Lawyer Lee, thank you for such an informative tour of these trails. It certainly helps me be able to place all the people involved in this case exactly where they would have been and walked when this horrible crime happened.! Amazing coverage! Love all your very informative reporting! Take care of yourself!
Thank you for this interesting perspective and I hope that the jurors are permitted to walk the trail as well as the visual tour presents powerful information. Hope you enjoyed your weekend as the weather there looks to be beautiful!
I find it peculiarly interesting that “most” that review evidence, timelines and testimonies almost always come to the generalized conclusion that it is not Richard Allen. I can’t speak for every single person, however it appears the only real supporters of the State’s theories and claims are the State, and LE. I don’t want to say it is a conspiracy but it really seems off in so many ways.
I appreciate your coverage. I am bothered by so much emphasis on pinning an exact time. I bet if we had to account for our time we could be as much as 30 minutes off at any time.
Lee, your timeline analysis is spot on. Interesting questions regarding the contradictions. But we all know, eyewitness accounts are so unreliable, even when given the same day.
Thank you Lee! As per your question; No, I don't think it was BG. With such conflicting statements from two of the four girls it's absolutely impossible to reach that conclusion. Could have/would have/ should have been's = doubt Please stay aware and stay safe 🌹
Do you think it would be terrifying to see the picture of yourself on the bridge that day on the news . Was it coincidence LE released the first images of BG the evening of 15Feb and Allen contacted them the following day.
Bridge guy came from south side of the bridge, passed Libby & Abby on the south end, then he turned around to go back to the girls. Possibly had some help waiting in the woods.
If that were true, he would have been in other photos Libby took that day. BG was on platform one as reported by fit bit lady's account. She passed A & L as she was leaving and they were coming in. BG likely faked leaving, so he did pass A&L . He waited to make his move.
@@josephjohnson3738BG was not seen on the platform in the images Libby took on the bridge. But BG came upon them very quickly. So either BG doubled back to catch up with them, or there was at least one other man that Richard Allen in particular didn’t pass or hear walking. He didn’t pass BG either. Given that man would undoubtedly be the murderer, it would be in Allen’s best interests to recall at least one of these men. Now, it’s not impossible that BG ducked into the trees when RA was walking and hanging out on the bridge platform, and got lucky that the girls continued onto the bridge after RA left.
Railly, Bre & the little sisters did not see BG near the bench. They took a photo on the bench at 1:26. They saw BG closer to the Freedom Bridge. Bre corrected Railly’s timing.
@ablair33556 pat brown is devastated by this. He had to move (to monticello). He needed a lot of counseling. Coming across the scene, its something that wrecked his life. Geesch.
He lured them there from that anthony shots account i dont care what anyone says his alibi is b.s. watching porn on a backroad. Yeah probably watching the snuff video of the girls. The cops know that. He snitched on someone else for something or saw someone with power in the video and they gave him a deal. Too many not crooked cops knew about him being the AS account they had to charge him with something at least he wouldnt get treated so bad in prison for pictures as he would the murders.
@@itsjustme800 It wasn't underneath, it was 6 inches from her leg or foot underneath some leaves. Being underneath leaves it suggests to me that whoever dropped it did so before the leaves fell off the trees the previous fall.
This was so helpful, Lee. Thank you so much. Suppose the killer was not from there. Suppose it's a serial kill who only comes out and waits for opportunities to kill and then leaves the area.
@nancymilawski1048 guess which Ling haul trucker was there at the time delivering to Packers? Mark Redwine This case has a hundred things like that partly why it is so intriguing.
@HumanimalChannel very interesting. I think he would have needed help, with knowledge of the park and controlling the girls at first. He wasn't arrested until July that year.
I don't understand why there weren't bloody footprints leaving the scene. Not to mention the killer's DNA being somewhere on the girls if not at the scene. How can there be no DNA evidence???
I KNOW! And the proximity he/they would’ve had to be to each girl while ‘criming’ beggars belief how those particular injuries didn’t leave DNA at the scene & a trail of it leaving the scene! When RA self reported in Feb 2017 it’s a crime in itself that his ‘clothing’ from that day wasn’t collected/tested. If he’s innocent it could’ve been evidence- no blood/DNA on the jacket/jeans/boots etc. More importantly if there *was* blood/DNA on his clothes the families & community wouldn’t have had to suffer 7+ yrs for a trial & hopefully justice😢
So much in this case doesn't make sense and when things don't make sense it's because most likely they are not true. The prosecution is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and it just doesn't fit. Why would someone who has this horrible crime in mind, want to walk the trails and be seen by anyone? And then all bloody walk all the way to his car by the main road. It seems way more likely to me that the BG came from the south end of the bridge and no one really saw him. And whoever the girls saw wasn't the BG and wasn't RA.
When I was younger I would have felt the guy was overdressed. Now, with severe anemia, I sleep with 3 blankets, one of which is an electric blanket set at HIGH. In the middle of summer! I also use a space heater as its fall now. I get winded walking 10-15 steps. But, I just wonder if the guy might have some illness that he needed to wear warm clothes. Depending on illness, he may or may not have the physical strength to take the girls.
It is beautiful there. I think back when I was a teenager and what an adventure it would be to go out there, on a nice day. I hate what happened to Abby and Libby, and pray for justice. Thank you, Lawyer Lee, for showing us the area.
What a beautiful place! The scenery is amazing. So very sad that this is where something terrible happened. Thank you for all your efforts to bring this to us.
I don't know if you ever thought of yourself as a journalist but you are now. How nice of you to make this informative walk about for us.
Yes, found it - WTHR 13 news article, but also other places.
"The Delphi Task Force requested the FBI to remove the physical descriptors listed on the flyer. Investigators do not want to discourage or stop the public from submitting a tip because the person does not specifically meet the height, weight, and age description. Investigators would like the public to focus on the photo of the man on the bridge, the voice recording, and second sketch that was released by law enforcement."
Yep. American journalist Tom Rosenstiel says that "Journalism’s first obligation is to the truth," and "its first loyalty is to citizens." That's what Lawyer Lee is doing for us right now.
I am a retired tv/radio news director and I would have LOVED to have LL as a reporter! She’s thorough and easy to understand without all the hoopla.GREAT job LL!
Thanks so much for getting out there to show us all if the relevant sights. It's helps so much be be able to see these places as RA and the girls would have seen them.
Lawyer Lee, your husband would be so proud knowing how much growth you’ve made into your YT channel ❤
I was thinking the same thing! I have a feeling he may know🙂
Agree!!
Oh yes I think he would not be surprised at all. I think it was her son who suggested she go ahead and do this podcast. Thank you.
No matter how many times I circle back to this case, my gut instinct continues to tell me there were two or more men involved.
Me, too.
@@rocketsfan6116 I agree, and I am also not sure that they were killed where they were found. I think they were taken somewhere else for the Odinist sacrifices, them placed and staged where they were found. And the local law enforcement were the worst possible group of dimwits to investigate these murders, and I think the disgusting judge may be helping them to cover their asses. No public viewing of the proceedings, putting plastic bags over the courtroom cameras, so there is no video record being made, and making it very hard and confusing for the public attendees. Prosecution losing tons of video evidence. Come on, something is very wrong in this proceeding and it stinks to high heaven.
I wouldn't be surprised if it linked back to some "protected" government officials or the judge herself (considering how she's handled the case thus far).
@@fernanditaluiz2591great point!! It seems absolutely reasonable due to the way the government keeps steering everyone away for facts/the obvious.
@@fernanditaluiz2591 That's really far fetched.
Thank you for your hard work and awesome commentary on this trial! ❤
Your coverage is above and beyond! Thank you for this unique and in depth perspective!
"Above and beyond"? It is actually full of errors.
Is it?
Agree I still say kegan n his dad were involved
Love that you are boots on the ground coverage for such an important trial. Outstanding coverage as always 💅💅💅 mainstream media could never
BG wasn't sitting on the bench: the girls were. They were taking a pic before they left. The meta data on that picture was around 1:26 p.m. They passed BG walking in as they were walking out.( He said he got there at 1:30 p.m.) If he had been sitting there, they would have had more time to observe him as they passed: that was not the case. He was walking with "purpose" and they were walking also, so the encounter was brief. In their defense, I was a terrible judge of someone's age when I was 16. The vibe he gave off was menacing, so there's no doubt the girls got the heck out of there.
This is accurate info. Thank you for stating this
They have in a filing the time they believe Allen’s car passes the harvest camera.. do u know what time that is?
I think RA says that he was sitting on the bench at some point, I think at the end of his walk?
Car caught on camera at 13:26
Sophie is correct. Lee, please clarify this in the video. There was no "bench" guy!
This is an incredible park. I was imagining something not nearly as nice. I wouldn’t think twice about letting my teenagers walk the trails at a park like that. This whole story is so heartbreaking.
@@ambroseacres if you ever were able to visit the trails there in Delphi very often you would see how many hoodie people show up out of nowhere.. it’s nowhere to drop off 2 teenage girls
Yes, it looks like many large recreational parks over here in Illinois. Places kids should be safe in the daylight.
@@Skunk-ed I live in Ohio and if I were fearful of people wearing hoodies, I wouldn’t be able to leave my house. It seems like hoodies are a Midwest staple as far as fashion goes.
@@Skunk-ed “Hoodie people” ? 😒
I'm a "hoodie people" and I work in child protection. What exactly is "hoodie people" supposed to insinuate??
Thank you for this. Your camera is so ridiculously clear! It's like we're there. It is beautiful on the trails.
You are doing a superb job. Thank you.
What an excellent idea! I wondered why law enforcement didn't just try to find a 5ft 6in man to walk the same bridge and then compare the height in the images. Lee, you're the best! Thanks for all the work you've put into covering this case! You've really put a lot of effort into getting to the truth. I would trust their initial visual memories more than their memory of time stamps. It's very possible they saw someone connected to the murders, but it doesn't seem to be Richard Allen.
That has always seemed like such a practical, simple idea to me. Surely it couldn't be that hard for some photography expert or math whiz to figure out.
I sent you an email on how the height of bridge guy can be established using the height of the bridge side rail
The phone camera has a known angle, so one needs to know where the phone was and where bridge guy was and then you can calculate the height. I don't think the video reconstruction will be accurate to within 2 inches. 5'4" vs by 5'6" - unlikely that it will be conclusive. I would put more hope into trying to reconstruct the acoustic source of the voice from the video.
Search Eye of Apophis Delphi
Start at video 1.
@@peterarcher7531 depending on whether the figure has a hat or is his hair and how exactly his head is angled, you'll not be able to differentiate between 5'4" and 5'6".
Thank you for showing us the park. It's so much easier now to picture where everything is.
A "february melt" is always so welcomed in the Midwest. That it fell on a day-off of school must have been such a treat. That a predator(s) killed those two young girls just enjoying their young lives as we want young people to do. Infuriating. And then it seems the case has been poorly investigated. So sad. Thank you for sacrificing your comfort to report on this case.
It was President’s Day not just a (snow day) off school
It was also an Odinist holiday.
Thanks for the Beautiful Tour Lawyer Lee !
Thank you, Lawyer Lee.
Thank you! This is great to see things “in person.” Your dedication is admirable and much appreciated !
Thank you for your educational and rational approach to this case. And of course for being inside the courtroom for us. Professor Lawyer Lee🎉🎉🎉!!!
Thank you for going out there and showing us the relevant locations. ❤
Thank you Lawyer Lee. You always do an amazing job of sharing with us!!!! You are the best!!!!!!
Lee, this was an excellent video. Thank you so much for taking us along on your walk. It really helps to actually see where the girls had been. It’s a beautiful area, and it is easy to see why people would want to get out and walk there.thank you again for all you are doing to bring the truth of this trial to us. There has been way too much secrecy, that’s for sure.❤
Thank you so much Lawyer Lee for all of your hard work on this very sad case!Outstanding coverage!
So glad you found a way to get a little more rest by having someone to wait in line in the middle of the night. You need your rest to be able to give us all your professional reporting. Yes, you’re a lawyer and a journalist! 😉
I’m currently following the case from Australia, Only thing I can say at this point is there is too much reasonable doubt at this point to find him guilty.
No DNA evidence, no confident eyewitnesses.
If this guy is a local in the town, everybody knows who he is so when they seen bridge guy or the other guy in the black did they not notice that it was Richard Allen if he’s such a well-known person in the town?.
Unfortunately, a bullet at the scene that has not been shot through the barrel just isn’t enough evidence for me to be 100% convinced that it was him.
If people did suggest him to the tip line because they thought it was him in the video, the police already interviewed him, they knew he was there because he told them early in the investigation.
@@mrdad-zl9zlNo one did. He self reported because they asked people that were there to do so. There were about 70 people there that day in all.
He was covering his mouth so it is difficult to make...I doubt if he even removed the covering when murdering the girls.
The bullet cycled through his gun, it would leave the same marks whether it was cycled or shot… watch Lauren on Hidden True Crime, she did a live with some ballistic experts last night, very informative, that unspent bullet cycled through that gun, just can’t be a coincidence, he put himself there at that time, his car shows up on the Hoosier Harvest video…he confessed, his phone from then is mysteriously missing, I do think someone else could have been involved but I think all of these things add up to murder.
Thanks for being here in Indiana and covering this trial so thoroughly. I’m born and raised 20 miles from Delphi. So grateful for the coverage.
I only want the truth to be told.
Thank you for being there. I trust your opinion. I am having a difficult time w/this case. I can neither stand watching an innocent man be railroaded by LE, or watch a guilty man try to get away with a horrendous crime. I have thought he has been railroaded, but, I don’t know..
Is it possible bench guy had a Bluetooth in his ear; and that is y he ignored trail girls?
Really? The state has managed to get a LOT of important evidence stricken, including LE sketches! WHY? Wouldn't you want the defense to make fools of themselves if the Odinist theory is so crazy? The fact is that guards at Westville were wearing Odinist symbols and when ordered to stop, one guy had it tattooed on his face. It's not crazy, it's very plausible. A lot of people never expand their worldview beyond church, y'all would be astonished and horrified by the amount of alternative religions being practiced out there.
I agree! I find myself going back to the concept of reasonable doubt, and I definitely have that here.
I think he’s guilty, but I don’t think the state has proven their case yet, there are definitely doubts!
@@leshondaprice5417 I hope they play his confessions where he says he did it to his family.
@@DanaDangelo88 I'm curious as to why the state were the ones attempting to keep confessions out. That indicates that they aren't all that reliable.
Because of Covid, we have become a custom to seeing people wear some kinds of masks. But in 2017 why would anyone have been wearing a mask, and would it not have been totally conspicuous to everyone?
Everything about what this person was wearing seemed conspicuous vs what others wore that day.
And who wears a Covid mask outside with no crowd
According to one UA-camr who is at the trial. The witness demonstrated how he walked. He had his lower half of his face buried in his zipped-up jacket. I have not heard of any mask.
@@teresacorrigan3076 ...three years before Covid!
Hmmmm good question
U are AWESOME! Thank u sooooo much for working soooo hard for us❤😊
Thank you for the field trip!
Thank you for going out there to show us. I appreciate all your work.
Been there a few times. Glad you went!
As I was watching this, I thought that was your voice! And here you are. So ma’am why won’t the judge allow the jury to go to the bridge? She seems pro- prosecution when she should me neutral the “ trier of the facts” thank you!!
They should see it, the distances, the sounds, the visuals.
Thanks Lee for your coverage of this most controversial and important case! Peace. ❤️
Awesome coverage Lee!!! ❤❤❤thank you
None of the witnesses described a short, middle-aged man. Allen is 5'4" in height and the most noticeable trait for description is that he is a short man.
I don't know who these witnesses saw, but it is very odd that no one has considered that there could have been more than one man in the park that day.... several men in the park that day.... and these witnesses are all describing different men, none of whom were Richard Allen.
They all said that the person they saw was the person in the video.
@@nhmountains5683 They said they saw the person in the video. They did NOT say they saw the person sitting in the courtroom.
Not ONE of them said they saw Richard Allen. Details matter.
And the trial is not over yet. There isn’t going to be one specific thing that proves RA is guilty. It will be a list of several things. Then the jurors will decide once they are told to by the judge.
And as RA was the manager at CVS wouldn’t everyone say ‘hey I saw the manager from CVS’ or even say ‘RA was out there, I saw him’ if the knew him by name. It’s a small town, I just don’t understand how no one spot him.
Thanks for the coverage!
Thanks for doing this. Now I can picture it better. Have a great Day!
Thanks Lee - You Are The Breakout Star in this Otherwise Ugly Ordeal... Thank You for Doing all this...
Thank you SO MUCH for the walk and talk! It is very helpful!
Thank you so much for this! It gives those of us who want to hear updates a wonderful view while we wait for a sliver of an update...
Thank you for the Video Tour.
Thank you for sharing your observations from trial with us! Your commentary/coverage is the best I’ve seen!.
The walk about that you've provided answers many of my questions about the site of the murder. What is that saying? "A picture is worth a thousand words." Peace be with you at that seemingly calm place, Mrs. Lee.
Thank you so much for doing this 😁
It's well known that many times a witness's identification is inaccurate. You can poll 100 witnesses to an accident and there will not be 100% agreement to the accuracy of details. Richard Allen should have been investigated more thoroughly at the very beginning, especially since he voluntarily provided information. They should have taken his DNA and his gun/ammunition.
Lawyer Lee, thank you for such an informative tour of these trails. It certainly helps me be able to place all the people involved in this case exactly where they would have been and walked when this horrible crime happened.! Amazing coverage! Love all your very informative reporting! Take care of yourself!
Love your comprehensive coverage you continue to provide for these heartbreaking cases. Amazing job as always.
Beautiful photography. It’s bit unnerving to think this was not a safe place for Libby& Abby. RIP 🌹
This is exactly how I envisioned the park. Thank you for sharing. Praying for this trial. So complicated.
Reporter-laywer Lee! ❤❤❤
Thank you for showing us the place!
Thank you, Lee. I appreciate you shedding the light on this case which seems to have been cloaked in darkness for so long. You've explained so much.
Enjoy watching your videos bc you stick to the facts. TY for letting the true crime community come along with you ❤
Thanks for that tour of the area. It really put me there.
Thank you for your dedication, Lee. We can't trust Judge Gull for the truth
Gull has a UA-cam channel ? Or another platform?
Where does she discuss the case, offer her theories about it, &c.?
Thank you for this interesting perspective and I hope that the jurors are permitted to walk the trail as well as the visual tour presents powerful information. Hope you enjoyed your weekend as the weather there looks to be beautiful!
🙋🏻♀Hope you got some rest yesterday.
You can add to your resume court sketch artist and tour guide. lol.
I find it peculiarly interesting that “most” that review evidence, timelines and testimonies almost always come to the generalized conclusion that it is not Richard Allen. I can’t speak for every single person, however it appears the only real supporters of the State’s theories and claims are the State, and LE. I don’t want to say it is a conspiracy but it really seems off in so many ways.
I appreciate your coverage. I am bothered by so much emphasis on pinning an exact time. I bet if we had to account for our time we could be as much as 30 minutes off at any time.
Lawyer Lee out from behind the camera and in the field bringing us coverage! I love it.
This is excellent work! And I admire your humility. Love visiting your channel from Turkey. All the best Lawyer Lee 🧿
You look beautiful & healthy outdoors! Thank you for the tour, I don't know what was different about yours, but it was especially helpful.
This video was really interesting. Thank you.
Very interesting! It sure is beautiful now with the leaves changing colors.
Lee, your timeline analysis is spot on. Interesting questions regarding the contradictions. But we all know, eyewitness accounts are so unreliable, even when given the same day.
Awesome walk thru. Thank you.
You’re amazing Lee! Thank you for all of your hard work and dedication into this very important trial.
Thank you very much for the video, it is helpful and your steady camera work was excellent!
Thank you Lee!
As per your question;
No, I don't think it was BG. With such conflicting statements from two of the four girls it's absolutely impossible to reach that conclusion.
Could have/would have/ should have been's = doubt
Please stay aware and stay safe 🌹
I agree. None of the witnesses' testimony was reliable, unless they were all describing different men who were also in the park that day.
Can you imagine how terrifying it would be to report that you were a man on the bridge that day
Would make you think twice before going to police in future wouldnt it
Do you think it would be terrifying to see the picture of yourself on the bridge that day on the news .
Was it coincidence LE released the first images of BG the evening of 15Feb and Allen contacted them the following day.
Bridge guy came from south side of the bridge, passed Libby & Abby on the south end, then he turned around to go back to the girls. Possibly had some help waiting in the woods.
How do you know he turned back?
I agree he came upon them too fast, he passed them then turned around
If that were true, he would have been in other photos Libby took that day. BG was on platform one as reported by fit bit lady's account. She passed A & L as she was leaving and they were coming in. BG likely faked leaving, so he did pass A&L . He waited to make his move.
@@josephjohnson3738BG was not seen on the platform in the images Libby took on the bridge.
But BG came upon them very quickly. So either BG doubled back to catch up with them, or there was at least one other man that Richard Allen in particular didn’t pass or hear walking. He didn’t pass BG either.
Given that man would undoubtedly be the murderer, it would be in Allen’s best interests to recall at least one of these men.
Now, it’s not impossible that BG ducked into the trees when RA was walking and hanging out on the bridge platform, and got lucky that the girls continued onto the bridge after RA left.
Nope Richard Allen did not come from the South side.
Railly, Bre & the little sisters did not see BG near the bench. They took a photo on the bench at 1:26. They saw BG closer to the Freedom Bridge. Bre corrected Railly’s timing.
Thank you for this video of the park. I really think more than one person is involved.
Thank you! This was really helpful. And you are awesome for being there......😊😊😊
I still think Keagan Kline was there
didn't he admit that he was there but the girls never showed up?
Do they know for sure they were going there to meet him ? I’m also thinking Patrick Brown is suspect
@ablair33556 pat brown is devastated by this. He had to move (to monticello). He needed a lot of counseling. Coming across the scene, its something that wrecked his life. Geesch.
He lured them there from that anthony shots account i dont care what anyone says his alibi is b.s. watching porn on a backroad. Yeah probably watching the snuff video of the girls. The cops know that. He snitched on someone else for something or saw someone with power in the video and they gave him a deal. Too many not crooked cops knew about him being the AS account they had to charge him with something at least he wouldnt get treated so bad in prison for pictures as he would the murders.
Kegan said he was waiting in a red Jeep.
Great information boots on the ground
Lee, if RA was so careful and clever not to leave any DNA, would he be so careless to leave the cartridge from his gun behind???? Really?!
I’ve been pro RA so don’t come at me. But everyone can make a mistake.
Maybe because it was underneath Abby and he didn't see it?
And murderers often do, so youre not wrong. Whether it is Allen or not, mistakes are always made . @JLW224
@@itsjustme800 It wasn't underneath, it was 6 inches from her leg or foot underneath some leaves. Being underneath leaves it suggests to me that whoever dropped it did so before the leaves fell off the trees the previous fall.
@@MovingAlong742 yes I was thinking of Libby's phone under Abby and not the cartridge sorry
I don’t think I could put any weight into the eye witness testimony knowing how unreliable witness testimony is. It also doesn’t seem to add up.
This was so helpful, Lee. Thank you so much. Suppose the killer was not from there. Suppose it's a serial kill who only comes out and waits for opportunities to kill and then leaves the area.
Some longhaul truck drivers do that
@nancymilawski1048 guess which Ling haul trucker was there at the time delivering to Packers?
Mark Redwine
This case has a hundred things like that partly why it is so intriguing.
@HumanimalChannel very interesting. I think he would have needed help, with knowledge of the park and controlling the girls at first. He wasn't arrested until July that year.
Thank you so much for all your hard work in helping us to try to understand this very difficult case. At this point I couldn’t vote on his guilt
This was very helpful. Thank you!
it's kinda fresh to see you outside😆 really beautiful place
Thank you for the update.
I'd never go into ANY woody area without a piece. If I can't carry, I won't go.
I don't understand why there weren't bloody footprints leaving the scene. Not to mention the killer's DNA being somewhere on the girls if not at the scene. How can there be no DNA evidence???
I KNOW! And the proximity he/they would’ve had to be to each girl while ‘criming’ beggars belief how those particular injuries didn’t leave DNA at the scene & a trail of it leaving the scene! When RA self reported in Feb 2017 it’s a crime in itself that his ‘clothing’ from that day wasn’t collected/tested. If he’s innocent it could’ve been evidence- no blood/DNA on the jacket/jeans/boots etc. More importantly if there *was* blood/DNA on his clothes the families & community wouldn’t have had to suffer 7+ yrs for a trial & hopefully justice😢
@@susanmilos6251 Exactly. Look at OJ Simpson. Even HE left a bloody footprint.
So much in this case doesn't make sense and when things don't make sense it's because most likely they are not true. The prosecution is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and it just doesn't fit. Why would someone who has this horrible crime in mind, want to walk the trails and be seen by anyone? And then all bloody walk all the way to his car by the main road. It seems way more likely to me that the BG came from the south end of the bridge and no one really saw him. And whoever the girls saw wasn't the BG and wasn't RA.
One profiler thinks he could’ve parked at the nearby cemetery, which was a theory early on.
When I was younger I would have felt the guy was overdressed. Now, with severe anemia, I sleep with 3 blankets, one of which is an electric blanket set at HIGH. In the middle of summer! I also use a space heater as its fall now. I get winded walking 10-15 steps. But, I just wonder if the guy might have some illness that he needed to wear warm clothes. Depending on illness, he may or may not have the physical strength to take the girls.
It is beautiful there. I think back when I was a teenager and what an adventure it would be to go out there, on a nice day. I hate what happened to Abby and Libby, and pray for justice. Thank you, Lawyer Lee, for showing us the area.
Thanks so much Lawyer Lee. You are amazing. ❤
Love your coverage! ❤
Thanks for the incredible coverage of this trial.
Thanks, Lee. This was a good idea!
Sitting on the bemch?? I thought he passed them walking with purpose ??
BG was not sitting on the bench. They passed him walking!
Thank you so much for this video ❤
Hi Lee. Thanks for this👍
You really are the best, Lawyer Lee
What a beautiful place! The scenery is amazing. So very sad that this is where something terrible happened.
Thank you for all your efforts to bring this to us.
RA appeared Muscular in 2017, Betsy Blair was 111 feet from Bridge guy not 50 feet as she said. She was at the barrier not the start of the bridge.
You are a really good journalist! You have great knowledge, and thank you for sharing your thoughts with us! 😊
Thank you for this!