Avon, I notice the thumbs up doesn't seem to be registering properly or at all. Thank you for your classes, which I find more measured and quiet than most of the soft pastel teaching video teaching. You work at a reasonable speed and speak quietly, which helps me at least to better absorb significant details. And you film effectively, eliminating distracting objects or movement in the work area.
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain clearly the different ways to do underpaintings for pastel. I use pan pastels and i am very much a beginner. I want to learn how to utilize them in the best and easiest way to do underpaintings. You are very calm and you speak calmly as well which is very relaxing. Thank you so much!!
Glad to help!! I do this channel for my students to use as a reference so come back occasionally and I will have more on underpainting, middle stages and finishing. Thanks
Thank you. I’m in a pastel class and have used the alcohol with pastel ( with complimentary colors). I will try charcoal w/ alcohol and pastel with water.! I can attest that the alcohol with pastel makes a mess!
The water is just as messy. But it can be less messy if you limit the brush work by just pulling a few grays out of your darkest marks and not try covering the whole area as I did. Thanks for watching.
I am not a traditional artist. Model railroad dioramas are my art. I use Pan Pastels as well as the wet on wet acrylics technique. But I am just starting to explore Pan Pastels in combination with IPA and/or water. Thanks for helping me push ahead.
Yes, any pastel other than oil pastels can be used to block in the large shapes of a painting and then any liquid such as water and alcohol can be used to spread those colors onto the substrate. I hope I understood the question correctly.
Oh, great question…Im working in soft pastel. Oil pastels are closer to oil sticks and oil paint and would not mix with acrylic gesso or water based mediums but you can use oil based mediums like gambasol, turp, oil mediums for underpainting but must let them dry before using soft pastels over them-generally speaking.
Fascinating, when I tried pastels years ago before the internet, I just used my fingers to blend and never thought to mix them with water or alcohol, same for charcoal, it was the beautiful jewel tones that sucked me in but I eventually went to watercolors because of the huge mess I would make with the pastels. They were in my hair on my face on my hands in the rug on the table on my clothes up my nose 😂 just everywhere.
Geeez I wish I'd known this years ago, none of the art books from the library and tutorials said to use water or alcohol! Way before UA-cam. I'm now playing with inks and saw liquid charcoal for sale in a tube, so that's how I ended up on your video. Now what kind of paper are you using? Because you don't mention it and I do watercolors and the type of paper is the most important thing to avoid buckling and ripling. Years ago the sketching paper I used would have been distroyed with water, so I am so curious.
Nitram Liquid Charcoal? Great Idea, I bought a tube of that years ago and didn't even think of that. I was using an old pastel that I washed off. Originally it was a sanded U-art paper but I had added clear gesso during the last creation process so it had an added texture from that. Watercolor paper is what a lot of pastelist friends use when using wet medium. There are some heavy mix media papers I've used that stand up.....I find that as the sizes get larger than 11x14 or 12x16 some of those might get a bubble or too or small wave unless dry mounted. And Uart in rolls curls unless dry mounted. Hope that helps
I’m way too organized to do that. Crap I don’t like my drawings all muddy up like that……. too hard to rework the papers already saturated not for me but thanks. I know you’re probably a great teacher. It just doesn’t work for me.!
Thank you for the great video, i could listen to you all day.
Thank you for the kind words. Maybe one day Ill have enough videos that you could bing “listen “ all day, lol. Thanks for watching
Avon, I notice the thumbs up doesn't seem to be registering properly or at all. Thank you for your classes, which I find more measured and quiet than most of the soft pastel teaching video teaching. You work at a reasonable speed and speak quietly, which helps me at least to better absorb significant details. And you film effectively, eliminating distracting objects or movement in the work area.
Oh, thank you so much for the feedback….Im still learning all this and the pacing and such. Hopefully all those tutorials don’t ruin the real me, lol.
And the thumbs up is registering now! @@PastelWithAvon
Yes it is😮
So interesting - I never knew you could do that with pastels! That is something I will try.
It can be messy the first few times but hang in there…the pay off is worth it.
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain clearly the different ways to do underpaintings for pastel. I use pan pastels and i am very much a beginner. I want to learn how to utilize them in the best and easiest way to do underpaintings. You are very calm and you speak calmly as well which is very relaxing. Thank you so much!!
Glad to help!! I do this channel for my students to use as a reference so come back occasionally and I will have more on underpainting, middle stages and finishing. Thanks
Wow! Must say this was very helpful thank you, I’m going to try with both.🖌️
Super! Other vids have other wet pastel techniques to try too. Thanks for watching v
Thank you , enjoying you tutorials
Glad you like them!
Thank you. I’m in a pastel class and have used the alcohol with pastel ( with complimentary colors). I will try charcoal w/ alcohol and pastel with water.! I can attest that the alcohol with pastel makes a mess!
The water is just as messy. But it can be less messy if you limit the brush work by just pulling a few grays out of your darkest marks and not try covering the whole area as I did. Thanks for watching.
I am not a traditional artist. Model railroad dioramas are my art. I use Pan Pastels as well as the wet on wet acrylics technique. But I am just starting to explore Pan Pastels in combination with IPA and/or water. Thanks for helping me push ahead.
I am so thrilled you wrote…these little vids are my way of paying it forward for all the help others have given me. We’re all in this together.
Great tutorial! Thank you very much!
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching and commenting
Thank you for this informative tutorial,,
You are welcome! Thanks for watching too, Im learning so I hope the editing gets moe precise
Thank you great tutorials 😊❤
Glad you like them! I will be doing a lot more on wet pastel techniques and values
Perfect Avon!
Thanks. See you soon.
❤ this!
Thanks.
Thanks you for sharing with me 💯 support much 💯 ❤ 😊 😀 👍 😘 💯
Not a problem, thank you too!
Does this work the same with Pan Pastels? Thank you for your informative videos!
Yes, any pastel other than oil pastels can be used to block in the large shapes of a painting and then any liquid such as water and alcohol can be used to spread those colors onto the substrate. I hope I understood the question correctly.
What is the archival quality when you add alcohol? Does it damage the paper? Is rhere a special paper you use?
No issues…the alcohol ethanols evaporate as they chemically bond with oxygen leaving only H2O which is harmless
I am not clear if you are working with oil pastels or soft pastels or does that distinction even matter?
Oh, great question…Im working in soft pastel. Oil pastels are closer to oil sticks and oil paint and would not mix with acrylic gesso or water based mediums but you can use oil based mediums like gambasol, turp, oil mediums for underpainting but must let them dry before using soft pastels over them-generally speaking.
Fascinating, when I tried pastels years ago before the internet, I just used my fingers to blend and never thought to mix them with water or alcohol, same for charcoal, it was the beautiful jewel tones that sucked me in but I eventually went to watercolors because of the huge mess I would make with the pastels. They were in my hair on my face on my hands in the rug on the table on my clothes up my nose 😂 just everywhere.
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La trascrizione fatela in Italiano. Grazie
Bien, chao! Habla espanol?
Geeez I wish I'd known this years ago, none of the art books from the library and tutorials said to use water or alcohol! Way before UA-cam.
I'm now playing with inks and saw liquid charcoal for sale in a tube, so that's how I ended up on your video.
Now what kind of paper are you using? Because you don't mention it and I do watercolors and the type of paper is the most important thing to avoid buckling and ripling.
Years ago the sketching paper I used would have been distroyed with water, so I am so curious.
Nitram Liquid Charcoal? Great Idea, I bought a tube of that years ago and didn't even think of that. I was using an old pastel that I washed off. Originally it was a sanded U-art paper but I had added clear gesso during the last creation process so it had an added texture from that. Watercolor paper is what a lot of pastelist friends use when using wet medium. There are some heavy mix media papers I've used that stand up.....I find that as the sizes get larger than 11x14 or 12x16 some of those might get a bubble or too or small wave unless dry mounted. And Uart in rolls curls unless dry mounted. Hope that helps
@@PastelWithAvon yes thank you
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No entiendo muy bien tu comentario. Me podrias explicar? Gracias!
Traduzione fatela in Italiano.
Thanks
I’m way too organized to do that. Crap I don’t like my drawings all muddy up like that……. too hard to rework the papers already saturated not for me but thanks. I know you’re probably a great teacher. It just doesn’t work for me.!
I TOTALLY understand. It is messy and I appreciate your willingness to watch and honesty.