safe to say gabe got everything he could want out of the vote. he got another girl out, and he got out someone who was coming after him. plus with tiyana gone, it lessens the threat of an all girl alliance
@@SjR-ob3tn for f sakes can you not with that. you're just trying to stir up paranoia by saying that. everybody has their secret scenes and they don't mean anything. gabe can very easily still be the winner
A lot of rumors are going online saying this was an Advantage production came up with just to save Rachel. BUT the teams were picked BEFORE the reward and BEFORE everyone knew she was gonna be on the bottom of a 5 vs 1 team.
it would have been amazing if she could have rallied tianna and kyle to vote out gabe. she could have used the block a vote on carolyn, to flush sues idol. and the three would have voted out gabe. but that’s harder in real life.
I figured the block would’ve been used on Gabe or Sue since Caroline was on the fence. It kind of forces her hand to go with Tiyana and Kyle. ofc they all could’ve still come back to vote Rachel out anyways but at least it lessens the need for a 4th person to be with them.
I would have preferred it was a knowledge is power. That way rachel could've used strategy and social skills to engineer her safety. For eg, she could've talked to teanna and figured out sue got an advantage with the red paint. And at tribal take sues idol. In this scenario, Rachel is actually using social strategy, as opposed to just handing her safety without power. That is insane
@@BK-hk2ps as Rachel said, she only found out about the advantage 20 minutes before going to tribal, even if she had a plan, she got no enough time to talk to them and secure the plan. The best way is to keep herself save was safety without power. But I do hope that Sol gave it to Tiyana, she might be able to block Gabe’s vote, and vote with Kyle and Rachel. But then Sue’s idol is the problem. So I’m happy with the outcome that Rachel is safe and one of the blue is gone.
We already had that happen on 2 seasons. Micronesia (all female final 4) and One World (all female final 5) and a final 3 of women in Marquesas and SJDS. We haven't had a final 4 or 5 of men yet and the only season to have a final 3 of men (Nicaragua), Jeff Probst talked more about those finalists' mothers than their own achievements. Shows you how scared Survivor is of the feminists.
It was such a huge mistake to use it on Rachel let's admit it. Had he given it to someone like Sue, she would have used it to block Rachel's vote, which means Rachel would have gone home probably since Tiyana would not have had enough votes to get Gabe out. If Tuku came back to camp 5 strong, it pretty much guarantees that one of them will go home next which would benefit Sol, since Tuku would have scrambled against each other and he could use that opportunity to align with some of them. He also missed the opportunity to build some trust with someone like Andy since he was shown agreeing with Andy to be allies. Staying silent will only haunt him because someone can probably sus him out and he will seem sneaky and untrustworthy
@@olio411 staying silent might be good. If he is loud and proud , Congrats, he makes an enemy out of at least 4 people. If he is quiet he can flip flop and play the middle which is the power position. Him and Andy can be a strong twosome and flip on everyone when ever it’s convenient. At this point I don’t know sol’s game or reasoning they really have showed his strategic abilities
I think they might find out that he did without him revealing that he protected Rachel...I think that was a terrible idea for him for protecting Rachel...he's better move was joining with Gabe's group...but he had to make a big move for his Resumè .
That second secret scene is very telling. Gabe connecting with Sol and Andy. Andy connecting with Kyle Is Genevieve, Sol and Andy gonna join the Tuku’s to take down the rest? It looks promising. Look out Sam, Sierra and Rachel. Teeny is a long shot to be voted out but she has to align somewhere
I think Sol made a terrible decision on protecting Rachel...Sol is really poor strategists atleast for now he isn't at the top of any alliances formed by him protecting Sam's group even if he reveals himself as a person who saved Rachel that could also backfire on him .
it would have been amazing if she could have rallied tianna and kyle to vote out gabe. she could have used the block a vote on carolyn, to flush sues idol. and the three would have voted out gabe. but that’s harder in real life.
TY for the upload.
safe to say gabe got everything he could want out of the vote. he got another girl out, and he got out someone who was coming after him. plus with tiyana gone, it lessens the threat of an all girl alliance
Unfortunately, if Gabe was the winner I think they would have included this scene tho
@@SjR-ob3tn - Yeah, I thought the exact same thing...if Gabe won, this *totally* would've been included in the show proper.
@@SjR-ob3tn for f sakes can you not with that. you're just trying to stir up paranoia by saying that. everybody has their secret scenes and they don't mean anything. gabe can very easily still be the winner
@@lafingscarecrowGabe is the one person i am certain is not winning
@@tj.8924 not andy?
A lot of rumors are going online saying this was an Advantage production came up with just to save Rachel. BUT the teams were picked BEFORE the reward and BEFORE everyone knew she was gonna be on the bottom of a 5 vs 1 team.
it would have been amazing if she could have rallied tianna and kyle to vote out gabe. she could have used the block a vote on carolyn, to flush sues idol. and the three would have voted out gabe. but that’s harder in real life.
I figured the block would’ve been used on Gabe or Sue since Caroline was on the fence. It kind of forces her hand to go with Tiyana and Kyle. ofc they all could’ve still come back to vote Rachel out anyways but at least it lessens the need for a 4th person to be with them.
@ but they usually assume who’s vote you steal/block is the one you’re voting out so sue would just use an idol on gabe
I would have preferred it was a knowledge is power. That way rachel could've used strategy and social skills to engineer her safety. For eg, she could've talked to teanna and figured out sue got an advantage with the red paint. And at tribal take sues idol. In this scenario, Rachel is actually using social strategy, as opposed to just handing her safety without power. That is insane
Nah. I'm rooting for Kyle among the Tukus but if Gabe's the one they're voting for, id rather they vote out Tiyana.
@@BK-hk2ps as Rachel said, she only found out about the advantage 20 minutes before going to tribal, even if she had a plan, she got no enough time to talk to them and secure the plan. The best way is to keep herself save was safety without power.
But I do hope that Sol gave it to Tiyana, she might be able to block Gabe’s vote, and vote with Kyle and Rachel. But then Sue’s idol is the problem.
So I’m happy with the outcome that Rachel is safe and one of the blue is gone.
thank you
also a girls alliance doesn’t have to be every girl in the whole game but as long as they make it to final four it’s successful
Exactly, there was an exact same discussion about this on reddit
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We already had that happen on 2 seasons. Micronesia (all female final 4) and One World (all female final 5) and a final 3 of women in Marquesas and SJDS.
We haven't had a final 4 or 5 of men yet and the only season to have a final 3 of men (Nicaragua), Jeff Probst talked more about those finalists' mothers than their own achievements. Shows you how scared Survivor is of the feminists.
I think Sol played off not having the advantage up at tribal. Hopefully he can keep that up next episode
I really hope Sol is discreet about him giving her the advantage. this can come back to haunt him.
It was such a huge mistake to use it on Rachel let's admit it. Had he given it to someone like Sue, she would have used it to block Rachel's vote, which means Rachel would have gone home probably since Tiyana would not have had enough votes to get Gabe out. If Tuku came back to camp 5 strong, it pretty much guarantees that one of them will go home next which would benefit Sol, since Tuku would have scrambled against each other and he could use that opportunity to align with some of them. He also missed the opportunity to build some trust with someone like Andy since he was shown agreeing with Andy to be allies. Staying silent will only haunt him because someone can probably sus him out and he will seem sneaky and untrustworthy
@@olio411i dont think you are paying attention this season.
I don't think you've been paying attention to the social dynamics at all
@@olio411 staying silent might be good. If he is loud and proud , Congrats, he makes an enemy out of at least 4 people. If he is quiet he can flip flop and play the middle which is the power position. Him and Andy can be a strong twosome and flip on everyone when ever it’s convenient. At this point I don’t know sol’s game or reasoning they really have showed his strategic abilities
I think they might find out that he did without him revealing that he protected Rachel...I think that was a terrible idea for him for protecting Rachel...he's better move was joining with Gabe's group...but he had to make a big move for his Resumè .
That second secret scene is very telling. Gabe connecting with Sol and Andy. Andy connecting with Kyle Is Genevieve, Sol and Andy gonna join the Tuku’s to take down the rest? It looks promising. Look out Sam, Sierra and Rachel. Teeny is a long shot to be voted out but she has to align somewhere
No way Sierra should have been torched out. Andy is the worst player and his days are numbered
I think Sol made a terrible decision on protecting Rachel...Sol is really poor strategists atleast for now he isn't at the top of any alliances formed by him protecting Sam's group even if he reveals himself as a person who saved Rachel that could also backfire on him .
Great editing not leading any of the viewers in knowing who had it during the strategy time
How did Sol give it to Rachel? Did the producers pass it on?
@@laluna5177 yea they've done stuff like this before most notably in hhh and waw
Gabe or Kyle next, i think.
It reminds me of Amber
If she chose the Block a vote, she could’ve single-handedly voted out whoever she picks
You should always choose safety when your on the bottom
No, there still would have been 4 tuku to vote her out. Leaving tribal was the best option.
it would have been amazing if she could have rallied tianna and kyle to vote out gabe. she could have used the block a vote on carolyn, to flush sues idol. and the three would have voted out gabe. but that’s harder in real life.
She was literally being voted out if she didn’t leave
@@BjBeam Nahh Tijuana and the Other Guy could Vote the curly Hair guy If she choose the Block Vote... And ITS a huge move