I have been there since The Isle started and I got to say, the development speed on PoT is insane compared to any of the other same genre games. It is really starting to shape to be the top game of that genre, imo.
That’s cause the developer that left the isle develops pot and he took the code of the isle to build his own game cause he owns it after getting into a fight with the lead developer
@@thedepthsgamer9833 Im fully aware about the whole code thing. Thing is he left obviously for reason and like you said, it is his code. He made it so it's his. Same as people who make maps take their maps with them etc. That's their work after all.
Im not gonna lie, one thing that sways me towards PoT is the community, although both are good communities, i've seen and experienced the bad from both, and i gotta say TI has a lot more of the bad. TI is beautiful, models are amazing, graphics are insane PoT is chill, nice graphics, good models, good animations. Development wise atm both are on par, but PoT is way faster. PoT atm is my strong point
Hey Velocci! Any ways J72 you couldn't have put it in a better way, I have played the isle since the giga came out and it has been so fun aswell, but the isles community like u both described has been lets say very toxic and worrisome. I personally also am not a fan of the diet update for lol the same reason aswell, its just kinda unreliable. I personally have never played PoT but the way I see it the future it has is bright and the community is very positive and welcoming. Bedsides all of that, thank you for shining light on the situation but also doing a quick progress report on how the games are growing. U guys take care and thank u.
I think another aspect that POT has over the isle is that it has character slots, So if you're growing a Dino but your buddies wanna play something else you don't need to either kill it or find another server you can just swap creatures
The isle is in early access. Which is basically demo/beta. It’s unreleased. But I do understand wanting a finished product - it doesn’t seem to exist currently in the creature survival genre
@@rathalos1511 while the isle does have that but lets not forget how bad all 3 of those are. animations on all of dinos are bad rly bad, ptera is just horrible so wont go to the bottomless pit of reasons why not evrima, and fantasy abilities you talk about are simply to make combat/hunts more interesting, they didnt add shooting fireballs they just seperated something that would usually be together like bite and bleed. for me at least it just brings just a little bit more than just hunting and sitting around like in the isle
Update on Path of Titans to anyone watching this now days- There is a new map getting ready to be released with many different biomes, nesting is likely to follow soon after it is released from testing. Alongside this it is getting a variety of attacks. And thankfully, they are going to be adding flyers, swimming, and apex dinosaurs in the future. I personally find it likely at the speed they’re going we could see the base game they wanted completed in 10-14 months.
@@jmsnails12 Hey the game is in Beta on Xbox/console so it is in early Development the Devs are working on the game for console and new content like unlocking stuff i would guarantee will not happeneed until it's Full official released.
I started playing the isle a few years before I did PoT, but path has definetely swaded me far more. The frequent updates, caring devs and overall atmosphere of the game feels a lot more enjoyable. The main thing I prefer with the isle is the fluid movement, you really feel like a dinosaur turning, biting and so on. The animations just have a lot more fluidness and weight to them, so I must give them that, but I perfer path in almost all other aspects
@@rathalos1511 you mean the crocs that just cannibalize all game and arr basically sectioned off to a small portion of the map? Or the pteras that are buggy and useless? Or the land carnos struggling to find any food at all? Definitely not issues right?
@@user-fx8jx4qm2t evrima on the isle. Not sure if they've actually made some recent changes but it has been in a really shit state for a very long time
I started with PoT, then tried The Isle. PoT obviously has a faster development and more updates, but what really makes the difference between the two games in my opinion is the way in which you can control your dinosaur...and in The Isle is a 100 times better tbh. In PoT it seems like the character takes a while before responding to your commands and the movements appear slow. This brings to what I consider the other key difference between the two games: the PvP, which in my opinion is again 100 times in favour of The Isle even if at the moment there are a few bugs that make utahraptor kind of the apex carnivorous dino. On the other hand, one big con of TI is the abundance of bugs, something you wouldn't expect from a game 5 yrs old. In my opinion, in the current state, TI is better if you prefer hardcore dino survival with exciting fights and hunts, and PoT is better if you prefer impersonating a dinosaur going around a huge map with some sporadic fights and hunts. In addition, I think PoT is a game really too much unbalanced in favour of playing as a herbi, really too much. The Isle is far from being perfect in terms of finding the right balance for skills between the various dinos, but overall the result is better and you have a gameplay that is more fair when it comes to confront other dinosaurs - something that in PoT is quite far from being true and still need a lot of thinking and work to be done in my opinion. One other big pro of PoT, to me, is that it seems like the devs are really listening to users complaints/advice and are extremely fast in releasing patches to implement them
To be honest I believe that some dinosaurs shouldn't be able to kill some dinosaurs or it should be very very hard or require the far stronger dinosaur to already be hurt. The Isle aspires to be a realistic dinosaur survival game right? Well, in nature not many matchups are balanced either. It is quite realistic that for example an allosaurus wouldn't stand much of a chance against a T-Rex, so I think it probably means as an allosaurus you'd have to run away as soon as you see a T-Rex, unless it is baaadly hurt and you are starving.
i like the slower movement and responses of PoT to be honest, you can quickly learn to work with it and adds to the feeling of how large and heavy some of the dinos are. raptors are fast, lightweight and agile, but don't hit hard and cant take much. trikes are slow, cluncky and heavy, but if they do hit you can almost see the force behind it, it hits like a truck, once it does.
@@lordeppiothe1 trust me, if you play as a full grown deino you'll feel the heaviness u're carrying with u when in the other hand, you'll feel way more free and agile as a juvie or an utah
I like both, the isle for hardcore dinosaur survival and path of titans for when I just want to chill enjoy life as a dino. Thanks for the vid, this channel is so underrated imo. Have a good day.
I know I'm late to this video, but I think its worth pointing out that PoT is more accessible due to it being on console and even mobile. This allows for a larger pop. Which however probably explains the reason for the graphics not being quite as good as the Isle. Great vid BTW, keep up the content dude.
For me personally PoT has more appealing graphics, locations and models. Idk, it's clearly much more simplistic in terms of polygons, but warm colors and map saturated with unique places does its thing. Isle has more of that tropical indiana movie/jurassic park vibes, which isn't my cup of tea. On the other hand PoT has some wacky defoult-looking animations, the walking and sprinting are awesome, but all tail/claw attacks are pretty meh. None of that sweet inertia when you stop running. Swimming and diving are pretty basic too. I'm afraid when flyers appear their won't be at least like in TI, but more like in bermuda... if so I'd live without flyers at all haha
I wish flyers in POT are close to flyers in Bermuda. BOB has many problems but the flying animation is probably the best flying animation and control in any dino game. Isle Ptera feels like controlling a stiff kite, it's flaps are like if you're clapping your hands against the air full force to keep it there... One of the main reasons I still play BOB is how smooth the flying of Ptenarodon is, it's CLAMING to get on it and fly over the map, almost like therapy
@@vcamv2354 really? For me bermuda felt a bit more cartboard than ti (both pretty meh for me) let's hope flying will "look" like in century:age of ashes and feel better than both bernuda and ti, for once. * haha hopes * (honestly I don't know a game with absolute flying mechanic)
@@FotakaTefa bermuda feels like a cardboad overall, but if you play enoughx and discont the overall graphical quality, the animation is very smooth and well made, it really feels like you are controlling a bird or a flying creature in the air. But yea, if flying is like Age of Ashes it'll be amazing. And I agree no game nowadays has absolute flight mechanics, but amongst dino games, I'ld say BOB takes the prize, at least to me
What it boils down to for me is the focus on in-game community. Isle has removed all sense of community by taking out global chat and the player tab for easy grouping- the game just feels silent and lifeless. It's hard to connect with other people now, and speaking as someone who owes about 90% of her best social memories over the past few years to The Isle, it sucks to see that feature being removed. PoT obviously has better community focus as the game has global chat + easy grouping, but I have a really hard time enjoying the gameplay. I don't dislike the game but I find the questing to be horribly boring and the combat feels clunky and buggy. So far Legacy is still my first choice because it's a nice blend of the two games, which sucks bc Legacy is gonna be put down soon anyways. (Not to mention I can't even run Evrima due to rendering issues...) Btw- great video, I enjoyed watching it. One suggestion I might have though is to lower the background music. It was just about as loud as your speaking voice and was really distracting- I wanted to hear what you had to say a bit better :P
Thanks for the great comment. I agree the global chat takes away from communities. They said at one point they will allow private/community servers to choose to have it on. Also I’ll keep working better on audio volumes. Thanks for the feedback, and for watching! 😎
Mix packing is a huge problem that was solved with the removal of global chat. Not knowing what another player is doing or thinking is better (IMO) than just asking them in a chat what's going on. It adds to the feeling fear whenever you might see or hear someone else. It also adds to the immersion that you only really understand your own kind, rather than every dino on the island being able to hear and understand each other 24/7.
@@fowlmarlee it's worth noting that if/when Evrima gets sandbox or a less gameplay-heavy mode it'll most likely have global chat. I simply think (as was said above) that it's to avoid people getting too chatty when you should really be thinking like a dinosaur, rather than a human.
The Isle Devs have said in discord chat that they have deliberately placed the foods together to test interactions between different Dino species for now, in future they fully plan to spread the foods throughout the maps to replicate different biomes, it really is only for current testing purposes that resources are mostly concentrated in one area If I was you I would contact the Devs directly to help understand their reasoning, development is not always linear
Have they really? Interesting. That would make sense. Do you know where in the discord they have said that? I would love to read their reasonings. Either way, like I said they can eventually add more and the system would be absolutely excellent.
Good to know thanks. I’ll look through that channel. Regardless though, I would have kept the diets close for testing in the QA servers, and spread them out more for the actual official release drop.
As if they didn't have half a year to test those interactions already? The only new change to interaction is the addition of Pachy. Anyone aware of their own game's gameplay, balance, and design shouldn't have a hard time extrapolating how the 9 different dinosaur species interact with eachother....
With a couple thousand hours in both and being a PoT backer/player since the fundraising days, I personally still favour The Isle, at the time. It goes for quality and detail (which may be why they take so long to update?), it has character, a nicer map (imo, since PoT's Panjura is very monotone and lacks any proper landmarks or varied biomes), is overall well-designed. PoT lacks some of this, with copy-paste abilities and animations, lackluster calls for some animals, no interesting abilities (yet), lacking balance and uniqueness for different animals, ... Sure, it already has a big roster, good optimization with nice graphics, but I feel PoT is the one that doesn't really know what it wants to be. The precise movement is nice, the collision is very good, even though there are understandable issues with it, but combat is monotone, abilities feel uninspired and aren't unique right now. I still prefer The Isle's grittiness and survival, it feels much more immersive, combat feels more engaging and better paced. PoT feels way too forgiving, and thus less rewarding. Animals heal really fast, especially small ones, and on the other hand, they are way too tanky and can take multiple hits from even the largest predators. A pack of small carnivores can literally keep switching and healing within few minutes against most larger animals. This may be because, hopefully, combat and stats in PoT is still placeholder, with many missing abilities. The UI doesn't help either, I personally can't stand it taking up so much space in the center of the screen. I'm sure they have their reasons, but development focus keeps switching as well, so any single aspect is slowly being chipped at instead of completed at a time. For now, while Isle has less animals, what it DOES have feels more developed and fleshed-out. I prefer accurate models, which PoT has, but then it lacks in realistic animations, combat, etc. So while the Isle took liberties with the animals (for some more than others), the core gameplay feels more immersive, unique and realistic than PoT. I feel more like I really am the dinosaur in the Isle, even without emotes (which I like about PoT). Even with more accurate dinosaurs, PoT looks like it takes itself less serious. I love playing solo, which is something that PoT seems to discourage as well, with clan functions coming up and group buffs (while groups are already more powerful by themselves). Both games have devs that made questionable decisions in the past, neither are really people I'd praise (talking about lead devs, their respective teams seem amazing) but that's another story. Mind you, this is my own two cents, and I understand both games are still in active development. I largely agree with the video as well. In the end, it comes down to personal preference. If you love dinosaurs and paleo-games, get both, you'll probably enjoy them either way.
Wait the path of titans map is the monotonus and lack of points of interest? I never played a map i get so much lost and need so much time to navigate than the evrima map... its forest i cant see shit, ,forest, forest, field, field and the only landmarks are mountains, 3 stones here and a river there. And the Updates in the isle are slow and lack of quality, cause the new features always bring in crazy ton of heavy bugs and are half done. Take the food systhem, they now complete overhaul it and change it cause they half done implement it at the start. The map, they have to make a complete new one cause they cant manage to optimize and bring in the full old one, its still only half the size. The nesting systhem, absolute waste of development and useless, noone use it. The gore update didnt bring any gameplay relevant features and not many new visual aspects, where are all the blood and viscera they promised, where are the permanent scars that should be in that update? But cool you can carry a hearth and a liver around. Over one year and no new Dinosaur in a game, that lacks dinosaur species at the moment. All signs they have absolute none idea to develope a game. Only thing they have, is a nice shell, nice visuals and animations.
To add more perspective on your comment on the new diet system, I attempted (many times) to grow a deinosuchus on the coast. I made it to a small freshwater pond that sits by an arch, but starved to death every time. It's quite frustrating when there's supposed to be sea turtles and crabs spawning on the beaches, but they rarely ever do. It seems the AI in the game is pretty rare in general.
I personally left The Isle after the long development cycle, lead dev emotionally abusing their community, a literal pedophile having to get fired from the team, and overly toxic community who is out for blood towards literally any other game with dinosaurs. (Honestly just look at SidAlpha for full documentation on all this.) That's just my opinion after seeing everything that has gone down with the game since it launched on Steam. We need to also remember that both games will be entirely different on launch, and appeal to different gameplay audiences. The Isle plans to be a survival and horror game in the end, with strains and mutants in an almost post-JP inspired setting. Path of Titans is a grindy MMO where the endgame will be more of a PvE with occasional PvP elements, along with less realistic gameplay such as stat buffing abilities and encouraged clan/mixpack play. I personally prefer Path of Titans for the fast development, slightly chiller community, and more relaxed gameplay with more open devs. *(I expect some major arguments to begin in the comments, and I won't be responding to them.)*
oh wow I forgot about the SidAlpha video (and the entire genre, kinda rediscovered it yesterday). There is a lot to be said for a development team that isn't openly hostile.
You mean the merch placement fella an his closet skeletons? One could easily assume this isn't the stuff one typically asks during background checks, cuz it's rare to even happen? And what does the merch guy have to do with the game? Ah, so in the end of the day pot is "less realistic", contrary to its market strategy?) So who blatantly lied?)) Also, even discord (not a game anything) has to regularly be monitored for pedos and such? Don't use discord?..
@@DFX2KX , Isn't this sid fella just riding the cancel culture band waggon for populism points?.. I mean, the twitter mob pretty much legalizes such behavior, then outrages over its own initiatives? Wow, 4sure TI is to blame...)
That scar system is pretty sweet. Great breakdown of the two games. I am glad I found your channel before making a decision. This is hands down the most thorough game comparison and review I have ever come across.
My main issue with pot is the lag you experience with combat. You cant fight or hunt like anything without whoever youre fighting just teleporting around you constantly. But yea atm pot is the more enjoyable game
The lag can be annoying this is true. It has been mentioned by the devs that it is a focus of theirs to fix. I trust they will fix it soon enough. For what it’s worth though, I have those lag issues with Evrima as well if the player I’m fighting has a bad connection - so it’s an issue the genre as a whole has to work on fixing.
It depends on what phone you have for mobile or you computer like my phone I get no lag and I won't get lag with some mods only time I'll have lag would be if there's more than 3 mods
Honestly just the fact that PoT doesn't waste your time is the main reason I've personally switched to PoT, which I admit is actually pretty funny because I used to shit on PoT a lot for being a "legacy isle." But after 7 years of playing The Isle, and then watching them release Update 4 not fixing really fixing anything that the update was made for in the first place I gave in and gave PoT a try. Maybe some people like losing everything when they die with no proper progression mechanics and just getting their time wasted by dinosaurs that aren't balanced fairly, but I've reached my tipping point. It's such a breath of fresh air to just play PoT, grow something (which is still annoyingly long mind you) but not just lose all of it and waste my time when I die. There are different build options and a form of cosmetic unlocks, mods, faster updates, and the combat isn't all that bad other than the occasional collision lag. I've always valued gameplay over graphics, and The Isle has time and time again prioritized the opposite. It's just getting old. I want to have this 7 year old game be fun already not just try and ooh and aah me with it's decent graphics that bog the performance down. Meanwhile in PoT I can get easily 2-2.5x the fps and it doesn't even look bad... If this video was on BoB I'd throw it into the ring too because I've got a long history of it, since I've tested it since effectively it's creation, but I'll save that for another time. TL;DR, they had something really good and then overcomplicated it, tried to follow Isle trends with map size, and having bad priorities with a now stuck-up community. It's a shame that these are our options.
"Stuck-up community"?) Didn't pot swap its fantasy quest growth for a ti-style one?) Better to be stuck-up then franticly running around with identity crisis, and a broken pr-campaighn, like pot. 1st it's about reeealism, then it has lizard tail whips and poison giant dinos, now that's just desperate. What gameplay in pot, when it lacks basic scent? Broken dogfight mechanics with that ridiculous tail whip?)) And what kept you from running away/4calling in TI to not get killed?.. Is "it has trippy random skins" thing even a pro, cuz that's usually a fps thing, or a desperate attempt to buy a playerbase into satying a bit longer?..)
If you haven't heard they just dropped a small update for The Isle. Those issues you had with the food distribution and such? Those have been addressed! Food was completely redistributed and the NW portion of the map redesigned to an extent. Along with a few other areas! Great video!! Your content got me back into these games in the last couple months! Keep up the fantastic work!
Sounds more like PoT is an MMO that feels very "videogamey" and unrealistic. Where, eventually, you'll just run into players with full adult dinos, because you don't lose your dino when you die, just some growth. The Isle sounds more immersive and realistic, but more challenging, and with slower updates.
The Isle also "feel" very unbalanced. They never seem to fix bad hitboxes and some retarded unbalanced "bite" damage making absurd difference between some Apex. Trike is a joke. Rex xan easilly facepalm Giga, even though Giga's was larger. I was lured to the Isle with promise of skill based play, but soon realized that there is little skill when bad hitboxes and retarded stats decide most fights.
Hey, I am pretty late. The Isle is pretty realistic and I think that the final product will be beautiful, imo it is best to play when you have some hours to have fun growing and surviving in a realistic and brutal world. I also love Path of Titans, because it has a much more casual and chill gameplay style, I personally like the RPG mecanics in the game, it turns combat and hunts more interesting in my opinion, the game, it doesn't matter when you are going to play, because to gain growth you just need to do some basic quests spread across the map. I do have to say though, The Isle has been for much longer and it still doesn't have as nearly as much playable dinosaurs as Path of Titans, it also presents much slower updates. But I like both games the way they are, both present a different gameplay proposal, The Isle has a realistic and immersive playstyle, while Path of Titans has a more customizable and aggitated playstyle. *BUT HEYY, THAT'S JUST A THEORY, A GAME THEORYY!!!!*
The weather on the isle, actually the enviroment is more immersive overall, love the lighning, I like The Isle more because it's less arcady than POT... My opinion is based on which game I enjoyed more.
Me personally i love both games, but i give up for the current moment on The Isle and i have all my attention on POT, thx 2 both games i meet a couple of friend what i am glad i meet them. I bought The Isle at the begging of 2019 and i bought POT in Autumn of 2019, i found myself really loving both of them, but in the Isle Chase is more of a Love hate relationship XD Where on Pot there where a few thing here and there what upset me at the beginning, but after a while and improvement i loved them, like when the first time the food system on POT was introduced, i hated it because it was pretty bad at the start and kinda made me to take a brake from the game, but now i found myself playing POT again and feeling that love and attraction towards the game, the same as it was when i first started playing the game.
For someone who played the isle since 2015 i saw this game grew and such ! (i miss region 2 so much and the updates qwq) and yeah its sad legacy isnt updated anymore and evrima is the new thing but for me i stick to the legacy version because of nostalgia , habits etc but why i dont play evrima ? well i tried it thou and such but it dosent have enough content for me to really play it yet so thats why i wait for more to come but if legacy close up before evrima gets really interesting to me sure it will be sad but here comes path of titan ! i always has this game in the corner of my eye because its seems interesting ! and honestly i want to buy it at some point and play to see and if this would become my main dino game if legacy close up for the isle well maybe it will be ! But overall both these games are good and i think they are worth it for any video game fan or just dinosaur lovers like me thats all ^^!
@@rathalos1511 they want to put it in the future and honestly even if you dont have scent food is easy to find , berry bushes and corpses can be found mostly in big open areas and there is even a map online you can use to find the ressources you need so..
@@J72Gaming omg crazy timing! 😁I'm looking forward to seeing it, good luck (and hopefully POT won't release another update right after you upload it lol Those guys work hard).
I like both games but I want realism on POT. So I'm personally just waiting for penalty on death features for private servers. I check both games out each update but neither keep me because neither are finished in the way I personally want. (And I'm totes fine waiting and seeing what time brings as I do other things.) The Isle Evrima: Lacks any Dinosaurs I love, or the one I do love is so over played I don't want to add to that atm. They need more of a food chain going on. They also need to move food and things around so more of the map feels used. (IMO and they could be way faster with updates.) POT: Hated revenge killing and alt swapping. They have implemented things to remedy this, however until they add punishments for death I just don't count it as a survival. Once you leave the growth state you have little to no punishment. It's literally a quest or two missing which you can get on your run back. (It just feels like an endless Adult sim once you hit adult... which loses any survival aspect for me.) EDIT: Amazing video also. I can't wait to see more of these as time goes on!~?
The death penalty is fair in my opinion, as you lose a whole bar in on my server (which is more the 1-2 quests, even with my servers boosted growth) AND you lose some of your marks, someone told me 10% of what you have.
@@elysiumsnakefarm1185 Nice friend! but I'm looking for the full survival aspect of it. Not just full adults even with 1 bar missing, that's literally nothing in the grand scheme of things. You can still fight just about anything, 10% of marks is worthless after you get the 1 skin you want. I personally like the risk and reward of the isle so just waiting on servers to implement that here. I feel if you get caught out being a doo doo, You need to lose an entire growth stage. I'm not looking for a chat simulator, or a battle arena where everyone is always aggro on site because of little risk, which is what 90% of this games population does. Hopefully the game can accommodate both types of players in the future. (Casual and or a more hard-core server rules) Again IMO.
Much more in depth explanation of both games J, really great work. The Isle and Path of Titans both have a long way to go, and personally, I’m excited to see them both grow!
I’m a new person here to this channel and I really agree with your opinions on both games! I can also see a great future for the development of them both, even if one might be faster than the other 😂 But amazing job with this video, I can’t wait for more!
If you'd have 10 times more subs, you still would be underrated. Wow such an underrated Quality/Sub number channel. Glad to be here from the start. I consider here and now THA start :))
I personally play legacy since Evrima has too many imperfections. But once, or should I say IF, the future updates to Evrima improve it I would consider it. But legacy is still my go to.
I really agree with the diet thing. As alot of herbis/omnis its so hard to find some of you diet. Or your diet is way outside of the hotspots. Like alot of stegos like s diet, but you have to go so far to the swamps to get it, when players like to hang around in the hotspots ie center and sometimes nw. So either you have to make the huge trek as this very slow creature to get food only to have to make the huge trek back right after, or just settling for having a diet that isnt ideal or helpful so that you arent bored. Its also a problem when diets arent where you would think they are. Like that one thing that’s supposed to be in highlands. You would expect it on cliff areas. High. Nope. Barely anywhere. And it also sucks to deal with super broken things like stego.
I hope the developers will make their games in such a way that everyone will like it as in path of titans growing over time the isle evprima foods were spread all over the map that is in every forest on every plain etc.
BOB and POT are surpassing TI atm. Sure, both have their own flaws. But the amount of flaws that The Isle has currently outnumber the flaws of Beasts of Bermuda and Path of Titans by a wide margin.
Like what? Not being clunky, and having a scent system? Only game to beat TI is Bob, and by weather system only. Pot got nothing, even flyers lack/crock broken.
Honestly as someone who’s been playing the Isle since it first dropped, to playing Path of Titan for the first time yesterday: I had a lot of fun on path of titans. Someone helped me right away, and helped keep me safe while I quested. People also sacrificed themselves so we could eat LOL. That’s not really a problem thou, because they don’t start from the beginning when they died- so they were just being helpful. I love that we don’t lose our growing process ( depending on the server I guess?) when we die. It’s the one thing that makes the isle frustrating because people just kill you to kill you LOL. I also wanted to add that having Global in it the game again helps a lot again LOL. The one thing about PoT as well is that people are more willing to take risk because they won’t lose so much process- it seems more alive and I run into more people without getting frustrated if they have to hunt me down- it’s just more fun overall in my opinion.
I noticed similar things. I started to play PoT on growth update and it just hooked me. I had so much fun until eventually it became too repetitive. At some point I just started to run from area to area and collect things. Than I stopped playing it
As someone who has played the Isle and POT, I prefer The Isle much much more for various reasons, some that have been touched on in this video and some that have not, the biggest con to POT atleast for me, is that the growth time is insane and as someone with a busy life I'd much rather have a secured passive growth like that in Legacy rather than a growth time that just freezes when I don't want to pick 100 acorns and do the numerous other fetch quests, plus something about the growth in POT that wasn't super touched on, is the fact that every dinosaur takes the same investment to get to an adult, of which I understand for a pure MMO, but for a survival game, it defeats the purpose of the food chain and ecosystem, The Isle had set growth times for each species which let the game be more balanced as their were overall less Apexes and more low to mid tiers, plus the gap between low tiers and Apex tiers was much bigger, and due to that it let every dinosaur fill their own role in the ecosystem and do it well, which made for a far more immersive and realistic game and also made it more fun, because you wouldn't have to worry about seeing the same strong dinosaur everywhere, of which happens frequently in POT, of which brings me to my next problem, POT has too large of a cast, and many dinosaurs of the same tier overlap one another and tend to powercreep each other, and so 9 times out of 10, the same overpowered Herbis will continue to kill you and you see less variety, another part of this issue is that when a new dinosaur gets pushed out with every update, many dinosaurs become unbalanced and or glitchy because the devs are more focused on making more content then making sure the content is actually well made, and due to this some units can be so op they break the entire game, and others get the short end of the stick because of it, regardless, I think I've made my point clear, I just don't think it's my type of game nor a good idea in general, to mix real dinosaurs with the elements and complexity MMO brings.
The isle has smoother and better models in my opinion, and there isn’t a bunch of quests and attacks to unlock, and the isle is just much more realistic. I would prefer the isle a lot over PoT but PoT is still an amazing game with more than the isle but I just don’t think that PoT can match up to the amazing models and details of the isle. If you disagree, that’s fine, this is just my opinion. I have both games and I play the isle much more. I can understand if you prefer PoT and I respect that.
You should also mention the mods for PoT and you have servers for e.g. with passive growth like in the Isle so for people who wants to be in endgame faster.
I think that it may be a little hard to compare the two accurately when they have such different gameplay cycles, with the main theme for the isle being a life cycle and the main theme for PoT being an MMO with quests. Edit: Terrific comparison though! Amazingly demonstrated the pros and cons of both games!
U forgot one CON: Path of Titans is a herbivore game , if u don’t play as herb u won’t survive, cuz combat is very unbalanced, if u play as carnivore u just are like an AI 😃, nice video btw
The power balance is definitely in the herbi's favor right now, but Carni's are much more efficient when even 2 of them coordinate. Most predators aren't solo hunters anyway, but I do agree that many herbis need a nerd and most carnis need a buff.
@@elysiumsnakefarm1185 I agree. A few days ago, I was in a Utah group and we slaughtered everyone in Corpse Cove. When you get in a group you can be a real menace. It was a lot of fun lol
Really loved this video my guy! You covered both so dang well, that was awesome! (Its also fun to see you immersed in the PoT Discord) I love both games, both will definitely consume most of my free time when they are complete, but I am definitely a Path of Titans player overall. Usually I go into videos like these with a grain of salt because all I can think in the back of my mind is "They are unfinished" but the way you structured your video definitely set a fair level of ground. But anyways, awesome video and happy dinosaur playing!
I would really like to say I like The isle more as I haven't even played POT but last time when I logged into Evrima it crashed withing 15 minutes on a high end PC and that wasn't more than a few months ago... I would never play anything else that's on the market now just because The isle has so much more attention to detail and the dinosaurs and their models and animations feel much more complete and immersive. I've been keeping track of POT just as much as Evrima and won't play either of them soon but I'm love attention to detail so probably Evrima is going to be the winner for me if they can keep getting enough income from the game to keep updating and complete it one day.
Tbh I already have Path of Titans, but most of my friends have The Isle. This was awesome to see the differences positive and negative, gave a clear view of what I'm looking at buying and what my positives and negatives are
Thanks for the extensive info. Bought POT for Ps5. Love Jurassic Park and dinosaurs overall so I’m pretty excited that a game like this is on consoles now. 🥳👍
What makes POT my favorite is that with mods and community servers, you can really play this game however you want. You want a realistic experience ? There are realism servers. You want to roleplay ? There are also servers for that. Oh, the growth time is too long ? There are also servers with boosted growth time. The possibilities are just endless.
It's been 7m since this vid.. U should do another! Or did u? Iv been playing path of titans on consule since its release. I'm really liking it. I do agree with just about everything u said about it. But I'm hooked on it man.
man, today after being 7 hours to grow my stego on thursday, and being playing it full adult for other 7 hours, I got killed by another stego when I was logging out
I've been kind-of on the fence, I stopped playing the isle and went to beasts of bremuda just because it seems like evrima doesn't have a whole lot of activity these days. But I've always been curious about path of titans, and the questing growth doesn't seem too bad I played around with something similar when I played draconia, the housing is almost enough to make me get PoT though lol
Fair enough. I'd rather lose some progress than my dino completely. However, I don't think you should revert in PoT if you've already hit a groth milestone. I also feel there should be a passive growth system like in some modded servers (though a more realistic growth, not that insta-grow or x50 b.s.)
I can kind of forgive the long update times for The Isle to a certain extent, honestly. They aren't a triple A studio, and yet they are developing a game easily on par with games from such studios. Evrima is in early development, but every different dinosaur FEELS like a character to play- they have personality, unique mechanics, and a colorful and stunning and detailed open world map that every dinosaur gets to explore just a little bit differently. AND they've done this with a shortage of developers on their team. This video is older, but with nesting and character customization on the horizon, I'd say the future for The Isle is a good one. Given two more years, and possibly a port to UE5, and The Isle will be the magnum opus of its genre. I have high expectations, and I'm not letting long wait times get me down when they CLEARLY deliver such a quality result every time with such a small team. They aren't spending that time twiddling their thumbs. Of course there are bugs and balance issues- but given it's in such early development again, it has time to be fixed. The main downside to The Isle IS the bitter community. PoT definitely has The Isle on lock for that.
Amazing stuff my man! Imo, the isle is still on top. The map and creature design is just over all higher quality. Graphics are a couple of levels over POT, which by itself helps with immersion. I feel like the isle gives each creature more love, then pot too. Both are definitely great though.
idk if id say the isles graphics are over PoTs though because of how unoptimized it is most people dont get to those fancy graphics unless they want 5fps.
@@skalare4492 Yeah nice strawman argument because thats not what I mean at all. I mean it cut and dry an unoptimized game is an unoptimized game and the isle is currently unoptimized idk why everyone says its graphics look better when they look on par AT BEST.
thanks, i just found out about these games yesterday and wasnt sure what to try but thanks to this video i have made up my mind, im going for Paths for sure especially with the newest updates
i cant believe i found myself making a connection between DCS (my flight sim gane) and my two dinosaur games There is a problem right now with DCS, people consume content faster than the devs could make them, which leads to the problem of more effort going into getting new planes into the game than actually adding more stuff to do in the game, in the end, we got new planes which will sate us for 2-3 months ... then we get new planes this divide is clear in the Isle and PoT the Isle, giving us too slow a development time, has however polished the mechanics creating a good base game, but with the lack of diversity, it feels baren PoT, sure it's fast at giving us new dinos, but in the end, the core mechanics barely changed (kind of like DCS), each dino ends up feeling the same when they do more or less the same thing over and over again on the quests They give us more things without giving us more things to do.
My computer has not been able to run the Isle since I bought it... I was sooo excited about such a beautiful game but I can't even play it. PoT seems so much more inclusive with its cross play and I can ACTUALLY play this one! I love it and can't wait to see what else they do
I started playing The Isle about a week ago (even though I bought it from the 2019 christmas sale lol) but I have so far only played Legacy, because I didn't know of Evrima's existence until now :D I think I will continue to play Legacy until Evrima is further in development. Which probably means a long time. At first I though Legacy was the sandbox mode and Evrima was the survival mode because of talk about lack of dinosaurs in Evrima, but apparently it's even worse. So I think I'll stick to Legacy, get bored of it eventually, and then rediscover the game about 1,5 years from now when hopefully Evrima has a lot more playable dinosaurs, is better optimized, has less bugs, and has some of it's core issues you talked about fixed.
Something I like more in TI current dev way is that they try to give each dino a personnality (talking about roar&calls, special ability and animation) and for me this is what make the difference. Having a lot of dinosaur in ur roster isn't a point for me if (for the majority) they feel the same or wayy to close from one another
I’ll mention one thing I thought of just now. Face tanking is a problem in pot for sure. In the isle you can move around quickly and have a chance at life.
In the isle a little Utah can kill big stuff like a Rex by sitting on it's ass... makes more sense for a big tankier Dino to walk up and face tank your attacks than it does for a tiny raptor to kill a big carnivore by sitting under it's tail. You get more of a chance at life by not getting 1 shot like in the isle as well.
@@colecampbell1906 i would take face tanking over what is pretty much the dinosaur equivalent to dogfighting. the number one complaint about the isle's combat was that if you ran into someone then you would phase right through meaning any dino could do drive by's with little to no risk as long as they went through the middle or back of the opponent. the 2nd complaint was that a tiny dilo could kill a full grown t rex because "dogfighting" and the rex has no way to hit back p.s. I'm saying I agree with you XD
I have both games. I LOVE the isle, but after a while, it gets boring with few dinosaurs to play. The community is amazing but almost no one shows mercy. Same species turning on each other and rule breaking. I am still new to PoT but let's just say, my first day I was shown kindness and no one killed me. I am still having a hard time figuring out how everything works. The isle has the best animations but I am hopeful both will be as good as each other in the future. I am playing between both. As an aspiring paleoartist, I am glad to see they both have accurate representation of dinosaurs!
i remember having an issue with POT because my PC didn't allow to download the new update and I was able to talk to the technician on dc and I must admit, he helped me a lot. When I had an issue with legacy, I had difficult time reaching out to the technician, and in the end, they never were able to get back to me. As much as I love the legacy (not a big fan of envirma), I must prefer to play POT because it is available on phones, tablets and pc! It simply has so much to offer, MORE than the isle generally speaking.
I like Evrima's diet system more than the weird questing in PoT, but otherwise, I have no reason to play Evrima anymore because they are taking way too long to introduce more variety in playables.
Would you rather have game that are updated every month or week and sometimes only “fix” the thing they broke their last update Fix- add something new to balance out the broken thing you did prior Then months later take out said things (Paradox games) Or would you rather have unbalanced games and just adding a few little things to keep people playing and barely fix your game (Ubisoft)
PoTs continued improvement not just in new mechanics but continuing to improve old mechanics already added as a consistent basis makes it a blow out in their favor imho. In 1 year it will be imho a much larger game and much better game. Not to include the great flexibility they allow with modding.
I’ve loved the isle for several years and am a little sad that it had to be completely revamped because I thought it was an amazing game as it was, I’m honestly not sure how to feel about the isle evrima but I hope it’s good since the isle is one of my favorite games of all time, I really hope it doesn’t get ruined by bad updates, bugs, toxic players, etc. I love the isle as is so hopefully evrima is just as good or better!
Honestly, I've always wanted to play the isle. It wasn't the first of it's kind, but it was the most ambitious animal sandbox sim up to that point. I still feel like it is by far more aesthetically pleasing, and more realistic in their implication of mechanics. What I like about POT is... Well, it's available on mobile and console, so I can play it anywhere. And without buying a new PC. POT is a good game. But the questing feels mundane. Which is akin to the mundane feeling of eating and drinking. I mean I get it. But... Why not grow by eating and drinking instead. Why does my crocodile care about mushrooms and pinecones? No one knows. feels like offbrand mudrunner sometimes. A game built on mundane tasks, but somehow feels mundane even to those who expected that. I like the map okay in PoT but it's far too... Uh..rough in my opinion. Like I'm glad it's not flat. But it's like driving through a marsh. Full of sandbars and drop offs everywhere. And yes sometimes it feels like everytime I join a server, it's 10min til server reset. And maybe the isle would feel the same way, honestly. Ive just never played it. I really do like both games. I play POT regularly now and love watching people play the isle.
I like Evrima, but it makes my computer eat shit. The stegosaurus is just a walking red flag, it *will* kill you. I’ve fallen off the cliff multiple times because the foliage is so dense. Your deinosuchus “friend” will eat you. The world loads very strangely, slowly, and in chunks. All in all it’s an enjoyable game, though the rate of development is concerning.
I want to play both of these so baad but of course I waited to build my PC when graphics cards are waay overpriced. 🤦🏼♂️😂 Edit: I would like to add that I’ve watched gameplay of both for a couple years now and I think both are very good games. And the competition will only make it better for players in the long run👍🏼
To be honest, both have their weaknesses and strong points, but at the end of the day we can still play both if we wanted. Nothing wrong with enjoying 2 dino survival games :)
My hope is that a company with similar resources to Frontier make a Dino survival game. Just think about it, playing with the Dinos from JWE2 in a similar vein to The Isle without the bugs/performance issues = perfection
oh hell no, speaking as an elite dangerous player , frontier can't be trusted lately , and the result would be even slower than evrima only to deliver a worst product ( looking at you odyssey )
@@mkba9291 Mmm you may have a point. I'm just burnt out waiting for The Isle to reach a state where there's a clear gameplay loop other than just running around eating or fighting. PoT's dinos look really good ,but it's gameplay doesn't appeal to me sadly.
@@gajspalt You have to give it some time. Game developement needs its time if it wants to be a good game. You can look up for AAA titles developement time and team size. You will usually find that AAA titles need 3 years of developement with around 120 people working on it.
my only big complaint with PoT is that the quests get boring very quick and you dont get a whole lot of growth bar per quest, but they said that they are going to update the quest system to be better, so i have my hopes up.
I bought both of these games on the same weekend, the isle was finished downloading in around 4 hours, path of titans took 8 days to download. After getting all of that sorted, I found myself loving Path of Titans way more. (The main reason I bought Path of Titans is because I'm an accurate Spino fan boy and the game does not disappoint with its spino).
I love both games, but The Isle for me still holds the crown of the genre. Why? well, I see the vision the devs are aiming for. Out of all the dino survival games, The Isle really does survival the best. While POT and BOB feel more like RP, fantasy games, you know? I don't feel the fear of dying nearly as much in POT and BOB. In a animal survival game, I want to feel like I need to watch and think about every decision I make, and how I die would depend on my decisions and if I pro longed it or just shortened it. Each creature in evirma has a unique purpose, abilities, pros and cons. However in POT, they feel the same too me, not really diverse in traits, you know? For example, Rex is unique as it can trample, that's it. Spino is different as it has a sail, that's it. Sucho is different as it can swim faster than spino, that's it. It just feels like the same dinosaur of that type is just copied a pasted. Legacy also struggles with this sort of thing. What would make a perfect dinosaur survival game would be a mixture of both, just like real life.
As a veteran Isle Legacy player since (when Maiasarus was first updated to the isle) I enjoyed the immersion it gave being a dino survival game giving me the ability to grow and learn and adapt with each dinosaur I played memorizing every dinos skills, weaknesses, fight types, and anticipating how an enemy was going to fight and win. I even memorized every dinosaur call on the isle and learned to heighten my hearing and vision to spot the smallest movements. To me survival was about your skill and knowledge memorizing the map knowing where to go and what to do to achieve adult-hood both solo and with other packs. Unfortunately Evrima at its current state is no longer about that fact. With how little it offers and how much dedication you have to put in to thrive the journey is not worth the reward. Its extremely upsetting for a new player to spend up to 7 hours when typical players have a life and simply cannot be emersed that long (unless your a night owl) to grow an alligator then get murdered by a pack of 30 carno, a mixpack of stego, utah, and carno, or simply starve trying to find a quiet place away from the group which is impossible as a vast majority of the map is restricted for development. Your forced to be a useless juvenile starving for food thats constantly surrounded by cannibal adult players, stack it ontop of the crashing, server issues, the game is a wreck. Now path of titans has quickly updated to add all of this in an environment that is peaceful, lengthy and also based on skill and growing to know your strength and weaknesses! As a survival player yes I enjoy the thrill of trying not to die but there also needs to be a cooldown balance of peace to give the energy to push forward into the terror. Evrima has too much terror, and broken gamplay, too much lengthy growth speeds, with toxic players and NO peace at all. Path of titans balances there peace and thrill depending on where you choose to go which is nice. plus a 3-5 hour minimum is a lot more enticing then a 7-10 hour growth as it gives even players with busy life schedules a chance to also enjoy and compete with players that have the time and dedication. And when youve switched from the Isle to playing Beasts of Bermuda that has no growth limit and your never better then your enemy is a huge enjoying experience. So until Evrima figures out how to balance its survival so your not so stressed out, flush out toxic playstyles, and gets a complete style, Path of Titans will continue to be my go to. And since a new map and nesting is around the corner for path of titans Evrima is going to be facing a tough road ahead.
I have been there since The Isle started and I got to say, the development speed on PoT is insane compared to any of the other same genre games. It is really starting to shape to be the top game of that genre, imo.
It’s proving to be a true “titan” in the industry that’s for sure. 😆
That’s cause the developer that left the isle develops pot and he took the code of the isle to build his own game cause he owns it after getting into a fight with the lead developer
But yes the development is very quick and it’s a good game but the way they did it in my opinion was kinda shady and wrong even if it’s his code
@@thedepthsgamer9833 Im fully aware about the whole code thing. Thing is he left obviously for reason and like you said, it is his code. He made it so it's his. Same as people who make maps take their maps with them etc. That's their work after all.
The movement feels a lot more clunky in path of titans in my opinion
Im not gonna lie, one thing that sways me towards PoT is the community, although both are good communities, i've seen and experienced the bad from both, and i gotta say TI has a lot more of the bad.
TI is beautiful, models are amazing, graphics are insane
PoT is chill, nice graphics, good models, good animations.
Development wise atm both are on par, but PoT is way faster.
PoT atm is my strong point
I’m glad you always cover the side of PoT I don’t usually hear about like the mods. PoT is rich with content!
Hey Velocci! Any ways J72 you couldn't have put it in a better way, I have played the isle since the giga came out and it has been so fun aswell, but the isles community like u both described has been lets say very toxic and worrisome. I personally also am not a fan of the diet update for lol the same reason aswell, its just kinda unreliable. I personally have never played PoT but the way I see it the future it has is bright and the community is very positive and welcoming. Bedsides all of that, thank you for shining light on the situation but also doing a quick progress report on how the games are growing. U guys take care and thank u.
what does atm mean
@@thejurassicchicken1445 at the moment :)
PoT + Mods + Community servers is also nice.
I think another aspect that POT has over the isle is that it has character slots, So if you're growing a Dino but your buddies wanna play something else you don't need to either kill it or find another server you can just swap creatures
my biggest complaint with Evrima is it feels like a starvation simulator.
I definitely think they need to update the game so you start off with half health, not the little sliver that we get
Idk how to download the isle
@@WONDERTIMEHEHE on steam
@@aerinpage why half health?
@@Nomorevideos-f5p pretty sure they meant hunger
Honestly I just want to play the version that actually gets finished.
This, I bought TI a good year or two ago, ima play that, i dont wanna spend money on a demo/beta
The isle is in early access. Which is basically demo/beta. It’s unreleased. But I do understand wanting a finished product - it doesn’t seem to exist currently in the creature survival genre
None is finished, but one actually has air/land/water done: TI.
While the other is too busy reusing same fantasy abilities.
@@mba1234 the is demo game too but out of two game path of titans is only one that considered and announced full release
@@rathalos1511 while the isle does have that but lets not forget how bad all 3 of those are. animations on all of dinos are bad rly bad, ptera is just horrible so wont go to the bottomless pit of reasons why not evrima, and fantasy abilities you talk about are simply to make combat/hunts more interesting, they didnt add shooting fireballs they just seperated something that would usually be together like bite and bleed. for me at least it just brings just a little bit more than just hunting and sitting around like in the isle
Update on Path of Titans to anyone watching this now days- There is a new map getting ready to be released with many different biomes, nesting is likely to follow soon after it is released from testing. Alongside this it is getting a variety of attacks.
And thankfully, they are going to be adding flyers, swimming, and apex dinosaurs in the future. I personally find it likely at the speed they’re going we could see the base game they wanted completed in 10-14 months.
I'm on Xbox and i have always wanted to play as a realistic flying creature.
@@Lit_Hot_takes Hey i just started to play it on xbox. How do you unlock new dinos? Money or is their way grind the currency in game.
@@jmsnails12 Hey the game is in Beta on Xbox/console so it is in early Development the Devs are working on the game for console and new content like unlocking stuff i would guarantee will not happeneed until it's Full official released.
Path is not on pc
@@ooogotcha if you say so xD
I started playing the isle a few years before I did PoT, but path has definetely swaded me far more. The frequent updates, caring devs and overall atmosphere of the game feels a lot more enjoyable.
The main thing I prefer with the isle is the fluid movement, you really feel like a dinosaur turning, biting and so on. The animations just have a lot more fluidness and weight to them, so I must give them that, but I perfer path in almost all other aspects
How about having playable dinos, not feel out of place, like in TI?..
@@rathalos1511 you mean the crocs that just cannibalize all game and arr basically sectioned off to a small portion of the map? Or the pteras that are buggy and useless? Or the land carnos struggling to find any food at all? Definitely not issues right?
@@slaayerr1 what game are u talking about
@@user-fx8jx4qm2t evrima on the isle. Not sure if they've actually made some recent changes but it has been in a really shit state for a very long time
I started with PoT, then tried The Isle. PoT obviously has a faster development and more updates, but what really makes the difference between the two games in my opinion is the way in which you can control your dinosaur...and in The Isle is a 100 times better tbh. In PoT it seems like the character takes a while before responding to your commands and the movements appear slow. This brings to what I consider the other key difference between the two games: the PvP, which in my opinion is again 100 times in favour of The Isle even if at the moment there are a few bugs that make utahraptor kind of the apex carnivorous dino. On the other hand, one big con of TI is the abundance of bugs, something you wouldn't expect from a game 5 yrs old. In my opinion, in the current state, TI is better if you prefer hardcore dino survival with exciting fights and hunts, and PoT is better if you prefer impersonating a dinosaur going around a huge map with some sporadic fights and hunts. In addition, I think PoT is a game really too much unbalanced in favour of playing as a herbi, really too much. The Isle is far from being perfect in terms of finding the right balance for skills between the various dinos, but overall the result is better and you have a gameplay that is more fair when it comes to confront other dinosaurs - something that in PoT is quite far from being true and still need a lot of thinking and work to be done in my opinion. One other big pro of PoT, to me, is that it seems like the devs are really listening to users complaints/advice and are extremely fast in releasing patches to implement them
Great comment. Thanks for sharing. I agree with most of what you said!
To be honest I believe that some dinosaurs shouldn't be able to kill some dinosaurs or it should be very very hard or require the far stronger dinosaur to already be hurt. The Isle aspires to be a realistic dinosaur survival game right? Well, in nature not many matchups are balanced either. It is quite realistic that for example an allosaurus wouldn't stand much of a chance against a T-Rex, so I think it probably means as an allosaurus you'd have to run away as soon as you see a T-Rex, unless it is baaadly hurt and you are starving.
@@topiheimola69 Indeed. The reason why some are against that is because they have the ‘it takes skill’ mentality’.
i like the slower movement and responses of PoT to be honest, you can quickly learn to work with it and adds to the feeling of how large and heavy some of the dinos are. raptors are fast, lightweight and agile, but don't hit hard and cant take much. trikes are slow, cluncky and heavy, but if they do hit you can almost see the force behind it, it hits like a truck, once it does.
@@lordeppiothe1 trust me, if you play as a full grown deino you'll feel the heaviness u're carrying with u when in the other hand, you'll feel way more free and agile as a juvie or an utah
I like both, the isle for hardcore dinosaur survival and path of titans for when I just want to chill enjoy life as a dino. Thanks for the vid, this channel is so underrated imo. Have a good day.
What about carebearing in pot?
@@rathalos1511 community servers exist
@@rathalos1511 and dude you've been going around replying to ppl to convince them to change their mind. Let people like what they like
I know I'm late to this video, but I think its worth pointing out that PoT is more accessible due to it being on console and even mobile. This allows for a larger pop.
Which however probably explains the reason for the graphics not being quite as good as the Isle.
Great vid BTW, keep up the content dude.
For me personally PoT has more appealing graphics, locations and models.
Idk, it's clearly much more simplistic in terms of polygons, but warm colors and map saturated with unique places does its thing. Isle has more of that tropical indiana movie/jurassic park vibes, which isn't my cup of tea.
On the other hand PoT has some wacky defoult-looking animations, the walking and sprinting are awesome, but all tail/claw attacks are pretty meh.
None of that sweet inertia when you stop running. Swimming and diving are pretty basic too. I'm afraid when flyers appear their won't be at least like in TI, but more like in bermuda... if so I'd live without flyers at all haha
I wish flyers in POT are close to flyers in Bermuda. BOB has many problems but the flying animation is probably the best flying animation and control in any dino game. Isle Ptera feels like controlling a stiff kite, it's flaps are like if you're clapping your hands against the air full force to keep it there... One of the main reasons I still play BOB is how smooth the flying of Ptenarodon is, it's CLAMING to get on it and fly over the map, almost like therapy
@@vcamv2354 really? For me bermuda felt a bit more cartboard than ti (both pretty meh for me)
let's hope flying will "look" like in century:age of ashes and feel better than both bernuda and ti, for once. * haha hopes *
(honestly I don't know a game with absolute flying mechanic)
@@FotakaTefa bermuda feels like a cardboad overall, but if you play enoughx and discont the overall graphical quality, the animation is very smooth and well made, it really feels like you are controlling a bird or a flying creature in the air. But yea, if flying is like Age of Ashes it'll be amazing. And I agree no game nowadays has absolute flight mechanics, but amongst dino games, I'ld say BOB takes the prize, at least to me
TI has several byomes, and not just some random pine forest with tropic colored dinos for some reason..
@@rathalos1511 ah yes the multiple biomes of.....plains, trees, a lake, a river, bigger trees. Damn the variety!!!
What it boils down to for me is the focus on in-game community. Isle has removed all sense of community by taking out global chat and the player tab for easy grouping- the game just feels silent and lifeless. It's hard to connect with other people now, and speaking as someone who owes about 90% of her best social memories over the past few years to The Isle, it sucks to see that feature being removed.
PoT obviously has better community focus as the game has global chat + easy grouping, but I have a really hard time enjoying the gameplay. I don't dislike the game but I find the questing to be horribly boring and the combat feels clunky and buggy.
So far Legacy is still my first choice because it's a nice blend of the two games, which sucks bc Legacy is gonna be put down soon anyways. (Not to mention I can't even run Evrima due to rendering issues...)
Btw- great video, I enjoyed watching it. One suggestion I might have though is to lower the background music. It was just about as loud as your speaking voice and was really distracting- I wanted to hear what you had to say a bit better :P
Thanks for the great comment. I agree the global chat takes away from communities. They said at one point they will allow private/community servers to choose to have it on.
Also I’ll keep working better on audio volumes. Thanks for the feedback, and for watching! 😎
@@J72Gaming Did they?? That’s great news!! Thanks so much for the response! :)
I feel that if global chat is on, there would be more mixpacking which I don’t like
Mix packing is a huge problem that was solved with the removal of global chat. Not knowing what another player is doing or thinking is better (IMO) than just asking them in a chat what's going on. It adds to the feeling fear whenever you might see or hear someone else. It also adds to the immersion that you only really understand your own kind, rather than every dino on the island being able to hear and understand each other 24/7.
@@fowlmarlee it's worth noting that if/when Evrima gets sandbox or a less gameplay-heavy mode it'll most likely have global chat. I simply think (as was said above) that it's to avoid people getting too chatty when you should really be thinking like a dinosaur, rather than a human.
The Isle Devs have said in discord chat that they have deliberately placed the foods together to test interactions between different Dino species for now, in future they fully plan to spread the foods throughout the maps to replicate different biomes, it really is only for current testing purposes that resources are mostly concentrated in one area
If I was you I would contact the Devs directly to help understand their reasoning, development is not always linear
Have they really? Interesting. That would make sense. Do you know where in the discord they have said that? I would love to read their reasonings.
Either way, like I said they can eventually add more and the system would be absolutely excellent.
@@J72Gaming I read it in the YT channel "The Isle News Updates", she will often put up conversations and QA's the Devs have in Discord up most weeks
Good to know thanks. I’ll look through that channel.
Regardless though, I would have kept the diets close for testing in the QA servers, and spread them out more for the actual official release drop.
That's what bad game design looks like in action.
As if they didn't have half a year to test those interactions already? The only new change to interaction is the addition of Pachy. Anyone aware of their own game's gameplay, balance, and design shouldn't have a hard time extrapolating how the 9 different dinosaur species interact with eachother....
With a couple thousand hours in both and being a PoT backer/player since the fundraising days, I personally still favour The Isle, at the time. It goes for quality and detail (which may be why they take so long to update?), it has character, a nicer map (imo, since PoT's Panjura is very monotone and lacks any proper landmarks or varied biomes), is overall well-designed.
PoT lacks some of this, with copy-paste abilities and animations, lackluster calls for some animals, no interesting abilities (yet), lacking balance and uniqueness for different animals, ...
Sure, it already has a big roster, good optimization with nice graphics, but I feel PoT is the one that doesn't really know what it wants to be. The precise movement is nice, the collision is very good, even though there are understandable issues with it, but combat is monotone, abilities feel uninspired and aren't unique right now.
I still prefer The Isle's grittiness and survival, it feels much more immersive, combat feels more engaging and better paced. PoT feels way too forgiving, and thus less rewarding. Animals heal really fast, especially small ones, and on the other hand, they are way too tanky and can take multiple hits from even the largest predators. A pack of small carnivores can literally keep switching and healing within few minutes against most larger animals. This may be because, hopefully, combat and stats in PoT is still placeholder, with many missing abilities. The UI doesn't help either, I personally can't stand it taking up so much space in the center of the screen. I'm sure they have their reasons, but development focus keeps switching as well, so any single aspect is slowly being chipped at instead of completed at a time. For now, while Isle has less animals, what it DOES have feels more developed and fleshed-out. I prefer accurate models, which PoT has, but then it lacks in realistic animations, combat, etc.
So while the Isle took liberties with the animals (for some more than others), the core gameplay feels more immersive, unique and realistic than PoT. I feel more like I really am the dinosaur in the Isle, even without emotes (which I like about PoT). Even with more accurate dinosaurs, PoT looks like it takes itself less serious. I love playing solo, which is something that PoT seems to discourage as well, with clan functions coming up and group buffs (while groups are already more powerful by themselves). Both games have devs that made questionable decisions in the past, neither are really people I'd praise (talking about lead devs, their respective teams seem amazing) but that's another story.
Mind you, this is my own two cents, and I understand both games are still in active development. I largely agree with the video as well. In the end, it comes down to personal preference. If you love dinosaurs and paleo-games, get both, you'll probably enjoy them either way.
Great comment thanks for sharing! 😎
Quality is always better then random skins, so yep.
Wait the path of titans map is the monotonus and lack of points of interest? I never played a map i get so much lost and need so much time to navigate than the evrima map... its forest i cant see shit, ,forest, forest, field, field and the only landmarks are mountains, 3 stones here and a river there. And the Updates in the isle are slow and lack of quality, cause the new features always bring in crazy ton of heavy bugs and are half done. Take the food systhem, they now complete overhaul it and change it cause they half done implement it at the start. The map, they have to make a complete new one cause they cant manage to optimize and bring in the full old one, its still only half the size. The nesting systhem, absolute waste of development and useless, noone use it. The gore update didnt bring any gameplay relevant features and not many new visual aspects, where are all the blood and viscera they promised, where are the permanent scars that should be in that update? But cool you can carry a hearth and a liver around. Over one year and no new Dinosaur in a game, that lacks dinosaur species at the moment. All signs they have absolute none idea to develope a game. Only thing they have, is a nice shell, nice visuals and animations.
@@grumple9618 all ways spawn center and learn outwards from their and your life with be alot easier, also their is alot of food in the center too 🙂
To add more perspective on your comment on the new diet system, I attempted (many times) to grow a deinosuchus on the coast. I made it to a small freshwater pond that sits by an arch, but starved to death every time. It's quite frustrating when there's supposed to be sea turtles and crabs spawning on the beaches, but they rarely ever do. It seems the AI in the game is pretty rare in general.
They turned off AI for a few creatures and when there’s more people on a server ai spawns less
I personally left The Isle after the long development cycle, lead dev emotionally abusing their community, a literal pedophile having to get fired from the team, and overly toxic community who is out for blood towards literally any other game with dinosaurs. (Honestly just look at SidAlpha for full documentation on all this.)
That's just my opinion after seeing everything that has gone down with the game since it launched on Steam.
We need to also remember that both games will be entirely different on launch, and appeal to different gameplay audiences.
The Isle plans to be a survival and horror game in the end, with strains and mutants in an almost post-JP inspired setting.
Path of Titans is a grindy MMO where the endgame will be more of a PvE with occasional PvP elements, along with less realistic gameplay such as stat buffing abilities and encouraged clan/mixpack play.
I personally prefer Path of Titans for the fast development, slightly chiller community, and more relaxed gameplay with more open devs.
*(I expect some major arguments to begin in the comments, and I won't be responding to them.)*
Perfectly said 👏
oh wow I forgot about the SidAlpha video (and the entire genre, kinda rediscovered it yesterday). There is a lot to be said for a development team that isn't openly hostile.
PoT is a sepia trash
You mean the merch placement fella an his closet skeletons?
One could easily assume this isn't the stuff one typically asks during background checks, cuz it's rare to even happen?
And what does the merch guy have to do with the game?
Ah, so in the end of the day pot is "less realistic", contrary to its market strategy?)
So who blatantly lied?))
Also, even discord (not a game anything) has to regularly be monitored for pedos and such?
Don't use discord?..
@@DFX2KX ,
Isn't this sid fella just riding the cancel culture band waggon for populism points?..
I mean, the twitter mob pretty much legalizes such behavior, then outrages over its own initiatives?
Wow, 4sure TI is to blame...)
That scar system is pretty sweet. Great breakdown of the two games. I am glad I found your channel before making a decision. This is hands down the most thorough game comparison and review I have ever come across.
Glad I could help!
My main issue with pot is the lag you experience with combat. You cant fight or hunt like anything without whoever youre fighting just teleporting around you constantly. But yea atm pot is the more enjoyable game
The lag can be annoying this is true. It has been mentioned by the devs that it is a focus of theirs to fix. I trust they will fix it soon enough. For what it’s worth though, I have those lag issues with Evrima as well if the player I’m fighting has a bad connection - so it’s an issue the genre as a whole has to work on fixing.
It depends on what phone you have for mobile or you computer like my phone I get no lag and I won't get lag with some mods only time I'll have lag would be if there's more than 3 mods
@@bread-iy8yl I’m on PC with good internet and I only play officials. If you think it doesn’t lag go and try to PVP anything on official
They are working on this right now, also why map is shrunk currently in the game so they can stress test, find the issues and fix them sooner.
@@LaskyRP ik but its still annoying for the time being
Honestly just the fact that PoT doesn't waste your time is the main reason I've personally switched to PoT, which I admit is actually pretty funny because I used to shit on PoT a lot for being a "legacy isle." But after 7 years of playing The Isle, and then watching them release Update 4 not fixing really fixing anything that the update was made for in the first place I gave in and gave PoT a try.
Maybe some people like losing everything when they die with no proper progression mechanics and just getting their time wasted by dinosaurs that aren't balanced fairly, but I've reached my tipping point. It's such a breath of fresh air to just play PoT, grow something (which is still annoyingly long mind you) but not just lose all of it and waste my time when I die. There are different build options and a form of cosmetic unlocks, mods, faster updates, and the combat isn't all that bad other than the occasional collision lag.
I've always valued gameplay over graphics, and The Isle has time and time again prioritized the opposite. It's just getting old. I want to have this 7 year old game be fun already not just try and ooh and aah me with it's decent graphics that bog the performance down. Meanwhile in PoT I can get easily 2-2.5x the fps and it doesn't even look bad...
If this video was on BoB I'd throw it into the ring too because I've got a long history of it, since I've tested it since effectively it's creation, but I'll save that for another time. TL;DR, they had something really good and then overcomplicated it, tried to follow Isle trends with map size, and having bad priorities with a now stuck-up community. It's a shame that these are our options.
"Stuck-up community"?)
Didn't pot swap its fantasy quest growth for a ti-style one?)
Better to be stuck-up then franticly running around with identity crisis, and a broken pr-campaighn, like pot.
1st it's about reeealism, then it has lizard tail whips and poison giant dinos, now that's just desperate.
What gameplay in pot, when it lacks basic scent?
Broken dogfight mechanics with that ridiculous tail whip?))
And what kept you from running away/4calling in TI to not get killed?..
Is "it has trippy random skins" thing even a pro, cuz that's usually a fps thing, or a desperate attempt to buy a playerbase into satying a bit longer?..)
If you haven't heard they just dropped a small update for The Isle. Those issues you had with the food distribution and such? Those have been addressed! Food was completely redistributed and the NW portion of the map redesigned to an extent. Along with a few other areas! Great video!! Your content got me back into these games in the last couple months! Keep up the fantastic work!
Thanks! And yes the update changes are really promising!
Sounds more like PoT is an MMO that feels very "videogamey" and unrealistic. Where, eventually, you'll just run into players with full adult dinos, because you don't lose your dino when you die, just some growth.
The Isle sounds more immersive and realistic, but more challenging, and with slower updates.
Indeed.
The Isle also "feel" very unbalanced. They never seem to fix bad hitboxes and some retarded unbalanced "bite" damage making absurd difference between some Apex. Trike is a joke. Rex xan easilly facepalm Giga, even though Giga's was larger. I was lured to the Isle with promise of skill based play, but soon realized that there is little skill when bad hitboxes and retarded stats decide most fights.
Hey, I am pretty late.
The Isle is pretty realistic and I think that the final product will be beautiful, imo it is best to play when you have some hours to have fun growing and surviving in a realistic and brutal world.
I also love Path of Titans, because it has a much more casual and chill gameplay style, I personally like the RPG mecanics in the game, it turns combat and hunts more interesting in my opinion, the game, it doesn't matter when you are going to play, because to gain growth you just need to do some basic quests spread across the map.
I do have to say though, The Isle has been for much longer and it still doesn't have as nearly as much playable dinosaurs as Path of Titans, it also presents much slower updates.
But I like both games the way they are, both present a different gameplay proposal, The Isle has a realistic and immersive playstyle, while Path of Titans has a more customizable and aggitated playstyle.
*BUT HEYY, THAT'S JUST A THEORY, A GAME THEORYY!!!!*
The weather on the isle, actually the enviroment is more immersive overall, love the lighning, I like The Isle more because it's less arcady than POT... My opinion is based on which game I enjoyed more.
Me personally i love both games, but i give up for the current moment on The Isle and i have all my attention on POT, thx 2 both games i meet a couple of friend what i am glad i meet them. I bought The Isle at the begging of 2019 and i bought POT in Autumn of 2019, i found myself really loving both of them, but in the Isle Chase is more of a Love hate relationship XD Where on Pot there where a few thing here and there what upset me at the beginning, but after a while and improvement i loved them, like when the first time the food system on POT was introduced, i hated it because it was pretty bad at the start and kinda made me to take a brake from the game, but now i found myself playing POT again and feeling that love and attraction towards the game, the same as it was when i first started playing the game.
Which one to play? Both! Playing Path of Titans when The Isles development is sleeping again and for a slight change in gameplay.
Like going from a game with an anti cheat, to a free one, just to see some weird stuff?
For someone who played the isle since 2015 i saw this game grew and such ! (i miss region 2 so much and the updates qwq)
and yeah its sad legacy isnt updated anymore and evrima is the new thing but for me i stick to the legacy version because of nostalgia , habits etc but why i dont play evrima ? well i tried it thou and such but it dosent have enough content for me to really play it yet so thats why i wait for more to come but if legacy close up before evrima gets really interesting to me sure it will be sad but here comes path of titan ! i always has this game in the corner of my eye because its seems interesting ! and honestly i want to buy it at some point and play to see and if this would become my main dino game if legacy close up for the isle well maybe it will be ! But overall both these games are good and i think they are worth it for any video game fan or just dinosaur lovers like me thats all ^^!
Pot doesn't even have basic scent, yet...
@@rathalos1511 they want to put it in the future and honestly even if you dont have scent food is easy to find , berry bushes and corpses can be found mostly in big open areas and there is even a map online you can use to find the ressources you need so..
He’s so right I was feeling that about the isle but could not put my finger on it. The diet for every animal is in the oasis 😂
I would really love to see another video like this for 2023 because of all the changes and additions! Very well made video man.
Thanks! And I’m currently in the works on writing the script for the 2023 edition. Should be out sometime soon enough! 😎
@@J72Gaming omg crazy timing! 😁I'm looking forward to seeing it, good luck (and hopefully POT won't release another update right after you upload it lol Those guys work hard).
I like both games but I want realism on POT. So I'm personally just waiting for penalty on death features for private servers. I check both games out each update but neither keep me because neither are finished in the way I personally want. (And I'm totes fine waiting and seeing what time brings as I do other things.)
The Isle Evrima: Lacks any Dinosaurs I love, or the one I do love is so over played I don't want to add to that atm. They need more of a food chain going on. They also need to move food and things around so more of the map feels used. (IMO and they could be way faster with updates.)
POT: Hated revenge killing and alt swapping. They have implemented things to remedy this, however until they add punishments for death I just don't count it as a survival. Once you leave the growth state you have little to no punishment. It's literally a quest or two missing which you can get on your run back. (It just feels like an endless Adult sim once you hit adult... which loses any survival aspect for me.)
EDIT: Amazing video also. I can't wait to see more of these as time goes on!~?
The death penalty is fair in my opinion, as you lose a whole bar in on my server (which is more the 1-2 quests, even with my servers boosted growth) AND you lose some of your marks, someone told me 10% of what you have.
@@elysiumsnakefarm1185 Nice friend! but I'm looking for the full survival aspect of it. Not just full adults even with 1 bar missing, that's literally nothing in the grand scheme of things. You can still fight just about anything, 10% of marks is worthless after you get the 1 skin you want. I personally like the risk and reward of the isle so just waiting on servers to implement that here. I feel if you get caught out being a doo doo, You need to lose an entire growth stage. I'm not looking for a chat simulator, or a battle arena where everyone is always aggro on site because of little risk, which is what 90% of this games population does.
Hopefully the game can accommodate both types of players in the future. (Casual and or a more hard-core server rules)
Again IMO.
This helped me a lot, I think I’m gonna buy evrima, thanks man
@@MomoDontKnow ,
You should enjoy TI food chain small, while it lasts.)
Cuz when it's not small...))
@@rathalos1511 we all will have grandkids till gets any where remotely big :)
Much more in depth explanation of both games J, really great work. The Isle and Path of Titans both have a long way to go, and personally, I’m excited to see them both grow!
Thanks dino_mite! It’s going to be fun seeing where they both go.
@@J72Gaming yes it will. Also like the name change. More accurate
I’m a new person here to this channel and I really agree with your opinions on both games! I can also see a great future for the development of them both, even if one might be faster than the other 😂
But amazing job with this video, I can’t wait for more!
Just started playing path of titans for PlayStation this video was really good please keep it up got my support off this one video!!!
I remember seeing your videos first back when you made the perk ideas stuff, your contents really good
I feel like it's down to if you would prefer the MMO style or not. (But I also like the lack of UI The Isle has.)
If you'd have 10 times more subs, you still would be underrated. Wow such an underrated Quality/Sub number channel. Glad to be here from the start. I consider here and now THA start :))
Thanks 😎👊
I personally play legacy since Evrima has too many imperfections. But once, or should I say IF, the future updates to Evrima improve it I would consider it. But legacy is still my go to.
This is ur best video! New sub
Thanks! Welcome to the Sauropod Squad. 🦕
Im 5 minutes in and I cant believe how well edited the video is, you deserve so many more subs man I hope your channel pops off
Thanks 😎
I really agree with the diet thing. As alot of herbis/omnis its so hard to find some of you diet. Or your diet is way outside of the hotspots. Like alot of stegos like s diet, but you have to go so far to the swamps to get it, when players like to hang around in the hotspots ie center and sometimes nw. So either you have to make the huge trek as this very slow creature to get food only to have to make the huge trek back right after, or just settling for having a diet that isnt ideal or helpful so that you arent bored. Its also a problem when diets arent where you would think they are. Like that one thing that’s supposed to be in highlands. You would expect it on cliff areas. High. Nope. Barely anywhere. And it also sucks to deal with super broken things like stego.
I hope the developers will make their games in such a way that everyone will like it as in path of titans growing over time
the isle evprima foods were spread all over the map that is in every forest on every plain etc.
BOB and POT are surpassing TI atm.
Sure, both have their own flaws.
But the amount of flaws that The Isle has currently outnumber the flaws of Beasts of Bermuda and Path of Titans by a wide margin.
Like what?
Not being clunky, and having a scent system?
Only game to beat TI is Bob, and by weather system only.
Pot got nothing, even flyers lack/crock broken.
Honestly as someone who’s been playing the Isle since it first dropped, to playing Path of Titan for the first time yesterday: I had a lot of fun on path of titans. Someone helped me right away, and helped keep me safe while I quested. People also sacrificed themselves so we could eat LOL. That’s not really a problem thou, because they don’t start from the beginning when they died- so they were just being helpful. I love that we don’t lose our growing process ( depending on the server I guess?) when we die. It’s the one thing that makes the isle frustrating because people just kill you to kill you LOL. I also wanted to add that having Global in it the game again helps a lot again LOL. The one thing about PoT as well is that people are more willing to take risk because they won’t lose so much process- it seems more alive and I run into more people without getting frustrated if they have to hunt me down- it’s just more fun overall in my opinion.
I noticed similar things. I started to play PoT on growth update and it just hooked me. I had so much fun until eventually it became too repetitive. At some point I just started to run from area to area and collect things. Than I stopped playing it
What an amazing video.. I only just heard of these games. You earned a sub
Welcome to the squad 😎
As someone who has played the Isle and POT, I prefer The Isle much much more for various reasons, some that have been touched on in this video and some that have not, the biggest con to POT atleast for me, is that the growth time is insane and as someone with a busy life I'd much rather have a secured passive growth like that in Legacy rather than a growth time that just freezes when I don't want to pick 100 acorns and do the numerous other fetch quests, plus something about the growth in POT that wasn't super touched on, is the fact that every dinosaur takes the same investment to get to an adult, of which I understand for a pure MMO, but for a survival game, it defeats the purpose of the food chain and ecosystem, The Isle had set growth times for each species which let the game be more balanced as their were overall less Apexes and more low to mid tiers, plus the gap between low tiers and Apex tiers was much bigger, and due to that it let every dinosaur fill their own role in the ecosystem and do it well, which made for a far more immersive and realistic game and also made it more fun, because you wouldn't have to worry about seeing the same strong dinosaur everywhere, of which happens frequently in POT, of which brings me to my next problem, POT has too large of a cast, and many dinosaurs of the same tier overlap one another and tend to powercreep each other, and so 9 times out of 10, the same overpowered Herbis will continue to kill you and you see less variety, another part of this issue is that when a new dinosaur gets pushed out with every update, many dinosaurs become unbalanced and or glitchy because the devs are more focused on making more content then making sure the content is actually well made, and due to this some units can be so op they break the entire game, and others get the short end of the stick because of it, regardless, I think I've made my point clear, I just don't think it's my type of game nor a good idea in general, to mix real dinosaurs with the elements and complexity MMO brings.
The isle has smoother and better models in my opinion, and there isn’t a bunch of quests and attacks to unlock, and the isle is just much more realistic. I would prefer the isle a lot over PoT but PoT is still an amazing game with more than the isle but I just don’t think that PoT can match up to the amazing models and details of the isle. If you disagree, that’s fine, this is just my opinion. I have both games and I play the isle much more. I can understand if you prefer PoT and I respect that.
100% agreed.
You should also mention the mods for PoT and you have servers for e.g. with passive growth like in the Isle so for people who wants to be in endgame faster.
I think that it may be a little hard to compare the two accurately when they have such different gameplay cycles, with the main theme for the isle being a life cycle and the main theme for PoT being an MMO with quests.
Edit: Terrific comparison though! Amazingly demonstrated the pros and cons of both games!
Very nice comparison video. Thank you
Hey thanks for this, I’ve played countless hours of the isles but path looks kinda similar and thought about getting it
U forgot one CON: Path of Titans is a herbivore game , if u don’t play as herb u won’t survive, cuz combat is very unbalanced, if u play as carnivore u just are like an AI 😃, nice video btw
The power balance is definitely in the herbi's favor right now, but Carni's are much more efficient when even 2 of them coordinate. Most predators aren't solo hunters anyway, but I do agree that many herbis need a nerd and most carnis need a buff.
@@elysiumsnakefarm1185 I agree. A few days ago, I was in a Utah group and we slaughtered everyone in Corpse Cove. When you get in a group you can be a real menace. It was a lot of fun lol
@@elysiumsnakefarm1185 ,
Would be nice if it was about coordination, and not stat abuse, like one can't heal if enemy is nearby.
Thank you for this video. You did a very good job of presenting both of these marvelous games. keep up the great work.
Loved watching this video, it is amazing
I like the artistic design of the Isle more than PoT, bit TI takes so long to update that it's kind of insane.
Really loved this video my guy! You covered both so dang well, that was awesome! (Its also fun to see you immersed in the PoT Discord) I love both games, both will definitely consume most of my free time when they are complete, but I am definitely a Path of Titans player overall. Usually I go into videos like these with a grain of salt because all I can think in the back of my mind is "They are unfinished" but the way you structured your video definitely set a fair level of ground. But anyways, awesome video and happy dinosaur playing!
Thanks Skymaster. Happy dinosaur playing to you too! 😎🦕
I would really like to say I like The isle more as I haven't even played POT but last time when I logged into Evrima it crashed withing 15 minutes on a high end PC and that wasn't more than a few months ago... I would never play anything else that's on the market now just because The isle has so much more attention to detail and the dinosaurs and their models and animations feel much more complete and immersive.
I've been keeping track of POT just as much as Evrima and won't play either of them soon but I'm love attention to detail so probably Evrima is going to be the winner for me if they can keep getting enough income from the game to keep updating and complete it one day.
Good idea.
Tbh I already have Path of Titans, but most of my friends have The Isle. This was awesome to see the differences positive and negative, gave a clear view of what I'm looking at buying and what my positives and negatives are
Thanks for the extensive info. Bought POT for Ps5. Love Jurassic Park and dinosaurs overall so I’m pretty excited that a game like this is on consoles now. 🥳👍
This was some great info, thank you!
What makes POT my favorite is that with mods and community servers, you can really play this game however you want. You want a realistic experience ? There are realism servers. You want to roleplay ? There are also servers for that. Oh, the growth time is too long ? There are also servers with boosted growth time. The possibilities are just endless.
Seems like an identity crysis?..
It's been 7m since this vid.. U should do another! Or did u?
Iv been playing path of titans on consule since its release. I'm really liking it. I do agree with just about everything u said about it. But I'm hooked on it man.
Not enough has changed to warrant a whole new video. I’ll likely do one at the start of next year again though
man, today after being 7 hours to grow my stego on thursday, and being playing it full adult for other 7 hours, I got killed by another stego when I was logging out
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Stego players only see red in path of titans, it's rare to meet a friendly one
I've been kind-of on the fence, I stopped playing the isle and went to beasts of bremuda just because it seems like evrima doesn't have a whole lot of activity these days. But I've always been curious about path of titans, and the questing growth doesn't seem too bad I played around with something similar when I played draconia, the housing is almost enough to make me get PoT though lol
Fair enough. I'd rather lose some progress than my dino completely. However, I don't think you should revert in PoT if you've already hit a groth milestone. I also feel there should be a passive growth system like in some modded servers (though a more realistic growth, not that insta-grow or x50 b.s.)
Most community servers do
I can kind of forgive the long update times for The Isle to a certain extent, honestly. They aren't a triple A studio, and yet they are developing a game easily on par with games from such studios. Evrima is in early development, but every different dinosaur FEELS like a character to play- they have personality, unique mechanics, and a colorful and stunning and detailed open world map that every dinosaur gets to explore just a little bit differently. AND they've done this with a shortage of developers on their team.
This video is older, but with nesting and character customization on the horizon, I'd say the future for The Isle is a good one. Given two more years, and possibly a port to UE5, and The Isle will be the magnum opus of its genre. I have high expectations, and I'm not letting long wait times get me down when they CLEARLY deliver such a quality result every time with such a small team. They aren't spending that time twiddling their thumbs. Of course there are bugs and balance issues- but given it's in such early development again, it has time to be fixed.
The main downside to The Isle IS the bitter community. PoT definitely has The Isle on lock for that.
Amazing stuff my man! Imo, the isle is still on top. The map and creature design is just over all higher quality. Graphics are a couple of levels over POT, which by itself helps with immersion. I feel like the isle gives each creature more love, then pot too. Both are definitely great though.
All true stuff. Thanks for the comment! We’re lucky to have both to play all things considered.
@@J72Gaming For sure! Also btw, the 40 min of pure passion, I cannot express enough how good this video is. You can see the effort, very well done.
idk if id say the isles graphics are over PoTs though because of how unoptimized it is most people dont get to those fancy graphics unless they want 5fps.
@@armadillo3454 that's like saying a modern next gen game doesn't have better graphics on the sole basis that a gameboy colour can't run it...
@@skalare4492 Yeah nice strawman argument because thats not what I mean at all. I mean it cut and dry an unoptimized game is an unoptimized game and the isle is currently unoptimized idk why everyone says its graphics look better when they look on par AT BEST.
thanks, i just found out about these games yesterday and wasnt sure what to try but thanks to this video i have made up my mind, im going for Paths for sure especially with the newest updates
Have fun!
I do love path of titans, but I should play the isle soon when I get a good gaming pc
"Let's hope it doesn't take 8 months this time"
Bro, humans were announced like 5 years ago. Don't hold your hopes up.
i cant believe i found myself making a connection between DCS (my flight sim gane) and my two dinosaur games
There is a problem right now with DCS, people consume content faster than the devs could make them, which leads to the problem of more effort going into getting new planes into the game than actually adding more stuff to do in the game, in the end, we got new planes which will sate us for 2-3 months ... then we get new planes
this divide is clear in the Isle and PoT
the Isle, giving us too slow a development time, has however polished the mechanics creating a good base game, but with the lack of diversity, it feels baren
PoT, sure it's fast at giving us new dinos, but in the end, the core mechanics barely changed (kind of like DCS), each dino ends up feeling the same when they do more or less the same thing over and over again on the quests
They give us more things without giving us more things to do.
My computer has not been able to run the Isle since I bought it... I was sooo excited about such a beautiful game but I can't even play it. PoT seems so much more inclusive with its cross play and I can ACTUALLY play this one! I love it and can't wait to see what else they do
great video pleas keep up the hard work it really great to see and hear this none biased opionions
This was a great video. Thank you.
I started playing The Isle about a week ago (even though I bought it from the 2019 christmas sale lol) but I have so far only played Legacy, because I didn't know of Evrima's existence until now :D I think I will continue to play Legacy until Evrima is further in development. Which probably means a long time. At first I though Legacy was the sandbox mode and Evrima was the survival mode because of talk about lack of dinosaurs in Evrima, but apparently it's even worse. So I think I'll stick to Legacy, get bored of it eventually, and then rediscover the game about 1,5 years from now when hopefully Evrima has a lot more playable dinosaurs, is better optimized, has less bugs, and has some of it's core issues you talked about fixed.
My grandchildren will really enjoy the finished version of The Isle
Good video, thank you Dino man
Something I like more in TI current dev way is that they try to give each dino a personnality (talking about roar&calls, special ability and animation) and for me this is what make the difference. Having a lot of dinosaur in ur roster isn't a point for me if (for the majority) they feel the same or wayy to close from one another
i love the isle, i just started playing PoT on xbox, i like it alot, but theres something about evrima that keeps me hooked
I’ll mention one thing I thought of just now. Face tanking is a problem in pot for sure. In the isle you can move around quickly and have a chance at life.
In the isle a little Utah can kill big stuff like a Rex by sitting on it's ass... makes more sense for a big tankier Dino to walk up and face tank your attacks than it does for a tiny raptor to kill a big carnivore by sitting under it's tail. You get more of a chance at life by not getting 1 shot like in the isle as well.
@@colecampbell1906 i would take face tanking over what is pretty much the dinosaur equivalent to dogfighting. the number one complaint about the isle's combat was that if you ran into someone then you would phase right through meaning any dino could do drive by's with little to no risk as long as they went through the middle or back of the opponent. the 2nd complaint was that a tiny dilo could kill a full grown t rex because "dogfighting" and the rex has no way to hit back
p.s. I'm saying I agree with you XD
@@colecampbell1906 bro that legacy isle
@@T190-o4e it's still played by more people than evrima though.
@@MyFunnyVids888 ,
Just don't run from it?
I have both games. I LOVE the isle, but after a while, it gets boring with few dinosaurs to play. The community is amazing but almost no one shows mercy. Same species turning on each other and rule breaking. I am still new to PoT but let's just say, my first day I was shown kindness and no one killed me. I am still having a hard time figuring out how everything works. The isle has the best animations but I am hopeful both will be as good as each other in the future. I am playing between both. As an aspiring paleoartist, I am glad to see they both have accurate representation of dinosaurs!
the diet foods in evrima are clumped together right now cause the devs wanted to give us training wheels. they'll be spread out as intended.
i remember having an issue with POT because my PC didn't allow to download the new update and I was able to talk to the technician on dc and I must admit, he helped me a lot. When I had an issue with legacy, I had difficult time reaching out to the technician, and in the end, they never were able to get back to me.
As much as I love the legacy (not a big fan of envirma), I must prefer to play POT because it is available on phones, tablets and pc! It simply has so much to offer, MORE than the isle generally speaking.
I like Evrima's diet system more than the weird questing in PoT, but otherwise, I have no reason to play Evrima anymore because they are taking way too long to introduce more variety in playables.
What made me stop playing the isle is the developers attitude. Feels like dealing with a 14 yo with a superiority complex
Would you rather have game that are updated every month or week and sometimes only “fix” the thing they broke their last update
Fix- add something new to balance out the broken thing you did prior
Then months later take out said things
(Paradox games)
Or would you rather have unbalanced games and just adding a few little things to keep people playing and barely fix your game
(Ubisoft)
PoTs continued improvement not just in new mechanics but continuing to improve old mechanics already added as a consistent basis makes it a blow out in their favor imho. In 1 year it will be imho a much larger game and much better game. Not to include the great flexibility they allow with modding.
This
An online game that is on life support by mods?)
Is that seriously a good thing?)
TI content is all game driven, not mods...)
@@rathalos1511 who said that?
thanks for doing these
yooo, that dinosaur plush is awesome xD where did you get it?
No idea. I’ve had it since I was like 3 years old.
dang. i need one in my room.. Time to do a whole lot of googling
A Real good comparison Video but for me its just wich game has more aktiv Players. And i think thats The Isle, right?
Yep: steamcharts.
I’ve loved the isle for several years and am a little sad that it had to be completely revamped because I thought it was an amazing game as it was, I’m honestly not sure how to feel about the isle evrima but I hope it’s good since the isle is one of my favorite games of all time, I really hope it doesn’t get ruined by bad updates, bugs, toxic players, etc. I love the isle as is so hopefully evrima is just as good or better!
Really well done video
Honestly, I've always wanted to play the isle. It wasn't the first of it's kind, but it was the most ambitious animal sandbox sim up to that point.
I still feel like it is by far more aesthetically pleasing, and more realistic in their implication of mechanics.
What I like about POT is... Well, it's available on mobile and console, so I can play it anywhere. And without buying a new PC.
POT is a good game. But the questing feels mundane. Which is akin to the mundane feeling of eating and drinking. I mean I get it. But... Why not grow by eating and drinking instead. Why does my crocodile care about mushrooms and pinecones? No one knows. feels like offbrand mudrunner sometimes. A game built on mundane tasks, but somehow feels mundane even to those who expected that.
I like the map okay in PoT but it's far too... Uh..rough in my opinion. Like I'm glad it's not flat. But it's like driving through a marsh. Full of sandbars and drop offs everywhere.
And yes sometimes it feels like everytime I join a server, it's 10min til server reset.
And maybe the isle would feel the same way, honestly. Ive just never played it.
I really do like both games. I play POT regularly now and love watching people play the isle.
I like Evrima, but it makes my computer eat shit. The stegosaurus is just a walking red flag, it *will* kill you. I’ve fallen off the cliff multiple times because the foliage is so dense. Your deinosuchus “friend” will eat you. The world loads very strangely, slowly, and in chunks.
All in all it’s an enjoyable game, though the rate of development is concerning.
The chunk loading is my least favorite aspect =[
I want to play both of these so baad but of course I waited to build my PC when graphics cards are waay overpriced. 🤦🏼♂️😂
Edit: I would like to add that I’ve watched gameplay of both for a couple years now and I think both are very good games. And the competition will only make it better for players in the long run👍🏼
To be honest, both have their weaknesses and strong points, but at the end of the day we can still play both if we wanted. Nothing wrong with enjoying 2 dino survival games :)
My hope is that a company with similar resources to Frontier make a Dino survival game.
Just think about it, playing with the Dinos from JWE2 in a similar vein to The Isle without the bugs/performance issues = perfection
oh hell no, speaking as an elite dangerous player , frontier can't be trusted lately , and the result would be even slower than evrima only to deliver a worst product ( looking at you odyssey )
there is a game called prehistoric kingdom coming out this year. its like planet zoo with dinosaurs
@@mkba9291 Mmm you may have a point. I'm just burnt out waiting for The Isle to reach a state where there's a clear gameplay loop other than just running around eating or fighting. PoT's dinos look really good ,but it's gameplay doesn't appeal to me sadly.
@@CHLOCHLOLP Yea I know of it, I'm one of the backers. PK is moving along good, interested to see what it has in store for 2022.
@@gajspalt You have to give it some time. Game developement needs its time if it wants to be a good game. You can look up for AAA titles developement time and team size. You will usually find that AAA titles need 3 years of developement with around 120 people working on it.
Great video!
my only big complaint with PoT is that the quests get boring very quick and you dont get a whole lot of growth bar per quest, but they said that they are going to update the quest system to be better, so i have my hopes up.
You accidently said ankylosaurus instead of anodontosaurus
Shhh I caught that in post production and didn’t have time to change it. Don’t let anyone know. 🤫
@@J72Gaming bit hard to keep it secret with a public comment and 2 likes already but ok
Twas just a joke lol
@@J72Gaming I’m aware
I bought both of these games on the same weekend, the isle was finished downloading in around 4 hours, path of titans took 8 days to download. After getting all of that sorted, I found myself loving Path of Titans way more. (The main reason I bought Path of Titans is because I'm an accurate Spino fan boy and the game does not disappoint with its spino).
I love both games, but The Isle for me still holds the crown of the genre. Why? well, I see the vision the devs are aiming for. Out of all the dino survival games, The Isle really does survival the best. While POT and BOB feel more like RP, fantasy games, you know? I don't feel the fear of dying nearly as much in POT and BOB. In a animal survival game, I want to feel like I need to watch and think about every decision I make, and how I die would depend on my decisions and if I pro longed it or just shortened it. Each creature in evirma has a unique purpose, abilities, pros and cons. However in POT, they feel the same too me, not really diverse in traits, you know? For example, Rex is unique as it can trample, that's it. Spino is different as it has a sail, that's it. Sucho is different as it can swim faster than spino, that's it. It just feels like the same dinosaur of that type is just copied a pasted. Legacy also struggles with this sort of thing. What would make a perfect dinosaur survival game would be a mixture of both, just like real life.
As a veteran Isle Legacy player since (when Maiasarus was first updated to the isle) I enjoyed the immersion it gave being a dino survival game giving me the ability to grow and learn and adapt with each dinosaur I played memorizing every dinos skills, weaknesses, fight types, and anticipating how an enemy was going to fight and win. I even memorized every dinosaur call on the isle and learned to heighten my hearing and vision to spot the smallest movements. To me survival was about your skill and knowledge memorizing the map knowing where to go and what to do to achieve adult-hood both solo and with other packs. Unfortunately Evrima at its current state is no longer about that fact. With how little it offers and how much dedication you have to put in to thrive the journey is not worth the reward. Its extremely upsetting for a new player to spend up to 7 hours when typical players have a life and simply cannot be emersed that long (unless your a night owl) to grow an alligator then get murdered by a pack of 30 carno, a mixpack of stego, utah, and carno, or simply starve trying to find a quiet place away from the group which is impossible as a vast majority of the map is restricted for development. Your forced to be a useless juvenile starving for food thats constantly surrounded by cannibal adult players, stack it ontop of the crashing, server issues, the game is a wreck.
Now path of titans has quickly updated to add all of this in an environment that is peaceful, lengthy and also based on skill and growing to know your strength and weaknesses! As a survival player yes I enjoy the thrill of trying not to die but there also needs to be a cooldown balance of peace to give the energy to push forward into the terror. Evrima has too much terror, and broken gamplay, too much lengthy growth speeds, with toxic players and NO peace at all. Path of titans balances there peace and thrill depending on where you choose to go which is nice. plus a 3-5 hour minimum is a lot more enticing then a 7-10 hour growth as it gives even players with busy life schedules a chance to also enjoy and compete with players that have the time and dedication. And when youve switched from the Isle to playing Beasts of Bermuda that has no growth limit and your never better then your enemy is a huge enjoying experience. So until Evrima figures out how to balance its survival so your not so stressed out, flush out toxic playstyles, and gets a complete style, Path of Titans will continue to be my go to. And since a new map and nesting is around the corner for path of titans Evrima is going to be facing a tough road ahead.