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Everything I Wish I'd Done Differently Climbing Kilimanjaro
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
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If I was to do Kili again I would go the Northern route which is quieter and takes longer so allows you a few more days to acclimatise. I am glad I did it via the more common southern route the first time because I liked the climb to the plateau and Lava Tower and the Barranco Wall etc. but if I did it a second time then it would be nice to see a new route.
I would also probably take fewer clothes as I had three pairs of trousers of different warmths but really just needed a lightweight pair and then a thick pair for the ascent.
Same with tops, I only needed two or three lightweight ones and a thick one for the ascent (plus a couple of fleeces for layering).
I would swap my fancy 'flip-top' water bottle for a more basic open mouth design because the straw of my bottle froze about an hour into the ascent but a basic bottle allows you to carry it inverted and also to break any ice that forms. I was happy that I used a camelback for the early days of the climb but I knew that would freeze on the ascent.
I agree about having a free day before starting. I came from the UK so had no jet-lag but it was still hard to travel for 12 hours, arrive late in the day then climb next morning. Luckily we went to Kenya to stay in a game park for a few days before going home though that was a long drive and did make the return trip to the airport quite long.
I am not sure I needed more exercise, especially not weights. I was a not very athletic 61 year old and trained by doing 5-10 mile hikes twice a week at sea-level though there were on a rugged coastline so lots of ups & downs along each walk. I did not have any issues at all with tired muscles in the morning on the climb though the descent did cause some :-) I was actually very short of breath at the summit, hence my wanting to take longer to acclimatise on a second attempt, but on the other hand a month later I was told I had a leaky heart valve so that probably did not help :-)
As someone that spends their summer in Silverton Colorado, 9318 to 14,000 feet, the only for sure way to train for high elevation hiking is high elevation hiking................ Happy Trails
My first 14er was Handies and I barely felt winded while my much younger (and fit) hiking buddies became I’ll. I’ve decided it’s a genetic thing.
It’s true and it’s not really related to fitness, although you have to be reasonably fit to climb mountains. When I was trekking in Nepal our guide said that she had seen some young strong guys have problems with altitude because they tried to move faster than they should have, while older and slower hikers had no issues. Acclimating takes time but diamox can help. 9:32
@@Summitclym are you the Moab Friends for Wheeling jeeper or the guitar player for Cheap Trick?
@@Summitclym There might be a genetic element but I've seen many stories of climbers who usually don't get ill that sometime still do even on similar climb.
The guides on my trip said the group most susceptible to altitude sickeness was young, FIT men.
Great points, I especially liked hearing about NPAP. As for cold hands, especially in those conditions/elevation, try a light liner glove in a warm mitten (fleece or wool) and a separate shell mitt for wind/rain/snow. This provides the versatility of your hiking clothing system and mittens are much better at keeping hands warm (and you can slide a handwarmer all the way out to your fingertips 😊).
Sealskin make great waterproof gloves and socks, good for retaining heat too. I have both for winter hiking here in the UK. Don't know whether they are available in the US ?
I like flying tired. Some people can’t sleep on a plane but I can. If I’m tired I just pass out and wake up at the other end like it was a Time Machine 🤗❤️
Altitude is something to take seriously. By many accounts, one’s susceptibility to altitude sickness can be variable. Myself, the first time at altitude wasn’t a big deal, the next time it was very problematic. Certainly it’s something to seriously train for. Since I live at sea level, I can’t really acclimatize until I arrive at higher elevations. Next time, outside of general fitness, I will plan extra days to acclimatize after arrival before the big push higher, bring Diamox in case and really concentrate on hydration. I have close contacts with competent and experienced mountain guides that I have learned to lean on their extensive expertise in these matters. There can easily be a point where one has to go back down a day or so before resuming. How does the group/company you’re with handle that? Something you want to know before going.
I appreciate Dixie’s comments about the crowds as that is a definite turnoff for me. I’ve hiked internationally in remote places far from anyone beside my small group and guide- perfect.
Climbing 'nearby' Mount Meru (4,564 m), in Arusha National Park, is also a great option as an acclimation hike prior to starting Kili. It gives you wonderful views of Kili and another great and very distinct experience, worthwhile doing in itself, not only to acclimatise. Doable in only 4 days. I think the Kili hike is already long and dragged out so this is a great option for shortening the Kili hike and great prep. I have not done this yet, this is my plan after much research
Yes, donate equipment. I wore my hiking boots on the plane, because they take up so much room in the luggage. Then give them to a porter. And boots rather than trail runners because of the cold.
@Homemade_Wanderlust Thanks, but I'm not on much social media, just Facebook & Whatsapp. All the best.
So, I’m at 80’ above sea level where I live. I could come to Alabama to begin my acclimation training!
Alabama man myself. I climbed 2 months ago at age 64. Good advice- really glad we arrived 2 days early to go on safari. Yes to legs gaiters! It was a full moon so summit was crowded- wish I had known.
Good advice all around. I would add on to the donation thing: If you can, please give away any equipment/gear/items that you don't need anymore to the porters. They work extremely hard to get you to be able to climb the mountain in the first place. Often times they use old and very worn gear. My friend and I donated a bunch of things at the end of our Kili trek.
After having gone a couple of years ago those were a lot of the same things I wished I would have known. The porters and guides were extremely grateful for any gear you were willfully to donate since it is very difficult for them to acquire those items in Tanzania. And yes definitely stay a few extra days and go on a safari while you’re there.
Altitude adaptation is significantly genetic. You either have it or you don't. You can't change your parents. That being said, hydration is also critically important, and nothing can take the place of allowing enough time to acclimate. This is why I did not use a guide in Nepal. On my own schedule, I was able to take my time, and allow for bad weather days, illness, or just fatigue. Twice over 18K, 3 times above 17.5K with no problems. But then I've also done over a dozen Colorado 14ers and live at 7K, so some clear advantages. You can't force your body to acclimate, it's going to do it on its own schedule, whether you like it or not.
Interesting thing -- the altitude simulators. But I think the body will do its thing if we give it a few days, while enjoying the local cuisine and sights.
You did great. Live and learn.💪👍❤️
I think when it comes to "waterproof" shoes, look into hiking sneakers that have a neoprene layer, there aren't many, but it's basically a wetsuit for your feet. Warm when dry and warm when wet. I have Merrell low ankle hiking sneakers like that and love them
You are so right about heated gloves. I bought some to keep my fingers warm but they only warm the palms of your hands. I couldn't find any with the warming element in the fingers.
This is one of my favorite video sets from your channel. It got me thinking though about another kind of trip that you could do. I would love to have you go on a substantial long hike without doing all the filming. Go and be a typical hiker. Bring only your phone. Take some vids and pics like most hikers do as you go. No setting up the camera and doing walk by vids and then walking back and all that. Try to really pair down your equipment to as light as possible. I was thinking the Vermont Long trail would be a good trip for something like this. It's very rugged and almost all trail. It is comparable to southern Maine in toughness, especially north of the AT/LT junction. It is super beautiful. I believe it is the oldest hiking footpath in the country. This would be a great trip to lighten your load and experience a trail in a different kind of way then how you normally do. You could still do your pre and post videos and I think the post video would be great to hear how your experience was without stopping and filming so much and what it is like having a substantially lighter load. The trail culture on the Long Trail is great too. Go South to North ending at the Canadian boarder that way you do the easier part first and you get both LT and AT hikers for the first 100 miles. Once north of the LT/AT junction it is a totally different vibe. I loved it as it is now only LT hikers and you get that comeradity. The shelters on the Long trail are awesome too, even if you don't stay in them. They are great to check out and take breaks at if nothing else. I would love to see you do this trail. I did it in 17 days with no zeros in 2019. I also thru hiked the AT in 2016 I would plan on around 3 weeks. I hope you do it one way or another. The only other recommendation I would have for it is to do it starting in late August or early September. No bugs and the best weather window. It can still get cold at night, but also can be very warm. Do it......
I loved your Camino trip and would love to see you attempt Mount Everest base camp Trek.
That was super Informative - thanks. I never knew about donating gear, bit it makes so much sense.
I was just hiking with a guy that also did Kilimanjaro 15 years ago and he said the same thing about donating your gear to them. Don't know what they do with it afterwards if you never see them hiking with it.
*_Because I like it, that's why I always listen to stories about climbing Mount Kilimanjaro_*
Nice video, Dixie. It is really a good idea to get there early. 3 out of 6 in our group had the airline lose their luggage. 2 rented their gear, and the other person had to catch up to us after their gear arrived. Not a good way to start a trek!
I feel your pain coming from Alabama as well. Anytime I get above 9000ft out west I just struggle. My pulse races. I wake up gasping for air in the middle of the night. I feel gassed walking around. It never really gets any better the longer I stay. I've only been above 14,000ft at Pike's Peak. It was miserable 🤣 I can only imagine how much worse it gets another mile above that. I'd love to try to climb some taller peaks, but I'm not sure my body could adapt in enough time. Seemed like a pretty awesome trip. I've researched safari's there. Seems like a perfect place to go to see all the animals.
I use a company called Intrepid. I started using then in 2019 when looking for something "different" They have tours all over Africa (the world, but keeping on topic) and for little money to can camp your way all over. I spent last year July to Sept for about $10K CDN and that includes tent, most food and travel and tolls YMMV The best time with the best tourists too. Guids are all awesome (I did 2 tours in that time) Just sayin'
Hi Dixie. Did you not want to climb Mount Meru as a warm up peak before starting on Kili? That's what I did when I went 10 years ago. There's a noticeable altitude gain which preps you perfectly for the bigger peak. If you go back to Tanzania for a safari you should definitely do Meru afterwards. It's much quieter, only 4 days, the views are stunning and there's a chance of seeing wildlife on the hike up. A truly underappreciated mountain and arguably a better climb than Kilimanjaro.
Didn’t have extra time otherwise I would’ve booked a safari :) Thanks for the info as it may be useful to someone planning to go!
I'm planning on doing exactly this. I've done quite a lot of research and it does seem to be the best way to acclimatise, time permitting. Glad to read your experience confirms this.
@@paolomrossi Happy to help. I have such fond memories of Mount Meru. If you do it go with the 4 day climb. It is possible to do it in 3 days but the 3rd day is long and brutal, I speak from experience and wish I had taken the extra day for a more relaxed, unrushed descent.
I was at the top last Thursday and what is on your thumbnail happened...
I have thought of those waterproof socks, vapor barriers (bread bags). Pretty popular in harsh cold.
Have to say that I wouldn’t trust my life to those DIY hyperbaric chambers that you mentioned 😂. Pretty scary!
The fitness training thing is an interesting one. Of course the fitter you are the better in terms of stamina and comfort during the hike and is a good thing. However it has very little to do with how the body adjusts to altitude. Some of the most fit elite climbers in the Himalaya have come down with altitude sickness, also there is not necessarily any consistency. Sometimes it hits an individual and sometimes not. By far the best way of defending against altitude sickness is acclimatisation, slow and steady climb. As a couple of people have mentioned there is a tendency for the guide companies to take people up a little too fast and for the clients to underestimate it Kili is a seriously high mountain and it is that height that is dangerous. Everest is an easy technical climb but it's the height that makes it hard.
Even top athletes have been carried off the mountain. Martina Navratilova, the world renowned tennis player, got serious HAPE... As you say, it's not just about being strong, trained, or tough.
I'm glad you explained the crowd. I was thinking one of the things you would have done differently would be to not take your entire family and neighborhood with you, at least not the first time.
That extra day before you start also helps with acclimatisation, because Arusha (if your lodge is there, for example) is at 1400m (4600ft).
A hypoxic tent may help, but a part of the problem on the mountain is the pressure, not just the low oxygen
Support KPAP!
Thanks for being so real! I was wondering what you thought of the crowds since you enjoy being solo so much. It seemed like every time you tried to film, there was someone talking in the background. Actually seemed like the same lady every time. That's why I'm not a big fan of group tours, but, like you said, it is a less expensive option.
I've also found that weight is heavier the higher you go.
That doesn't make sense. The gravity is diminishing higher you go, therefore things should be lighter...🤔
It may feel heavier, but in fact it is ever so slightly less heavy according to Einstein. Being so close to the equator it'll be about as light as it could be, and lighter than when you take it home
That mental baggage is heavy…😅
@@nedanother9382 According to Newton already...
I always add a day or more to the front and tail on my trips if the plane is longer than 6 hours or so. Not only for jet lag but to check my gear and resolve and hiccups (like the time I somehow forgot to pack pants) Also time to get a local phone SIM and cash for tips etc. If it turns out everything is fine then time to explore local sites. On the tail end I use the time to "recover' from the trip, and Have A Bath! (and do laundry) and again to replenish supplies or discard things that are not flight friendly (walking sticks come to mind)
That would be a GREAT trip. I wish I could make it--but I sure enjoyed the video of YOUR hike (thank you)!
By the way, your hair sure is beautiful! 😊 Thank you again, for all of your wonderful video content, Dixie. You do GREAT!
Getting fit is helpful but it's no substitute for more oxygen carrying blood cells, which you only get with time at altitude. Or injections of erythropoetin I guess.
EPO injection: called blood doping 😀
Lots of great tips for those not used to high elevation or this kind of travel. Altitude sickness is real, even in the foothills. Just to clarify about heart rate at high elevation, yes being fitter helps, but if you don’t acclimate at all before getting out on the mountains you’re going to struggle. Well, 90% of people will struggle. Because of the lack of oxygen. For many people it takes time for their bodies to adjust, if you don’t allow for that time you may suffer for it! Even going from 8,000 or 10,000 elevation up to a big mountain will be jarring. If you can be there a few days ahead to acclimate that can help.
Dixie it was a nice trip thank you for doing it. As for the electric gloves I found that if you wear a pair of gloves over them they work just great! Some type to cover the electric gloves even cheap clothe gloves and they keep the heat in.
Dixie, they make endurance or elevation masks that helps you acclimate to higher elevations. Masks cost anywhere from $35 to $100 depending what you want. The cheaper masks work just as well as the more expensive one. You can wear the mask everyday as you are hiking or exercising to help your lungs get stronger. You do see and feel the difference after a few days of using the mask. Your muscle and cardio endurance will improve. Be careful not to start at the max setting or you could pass out or get a headache just as if you were going up elevation. Hope this helps.
I got one, but in doing research have found they don’t seem to actually do what they are designed to :/
I might rather take a week in Colorado or some high elevation location for a week before the Kilimanjaro trip. Probably cheaper than that machine and more enjoyable if you can agree with your job to work remote while acclimating some, then you don't have to take a lot of vacation in addition to Kilimanjaro.
I wonder if spending a week or two in Colorado before the kilimanjaro hike would acclimate people. Drive up to the top of Pikes peak or Mt Evans at 14,000 feet and just spend your days up there. Then go back off the mountain and spend nights in a hotel at 8000 ft.
Probably, but it would be expensive and time consuming for most folks to do something like that
Eva Zu Beck, one of the biggest adventurers, climbed Kilimanjaro with no problem. She stated that the best thing to do is to take the long western route, which takes 9 days instead of the normal 5-7 days. This gives you plenty of time to acclimatize during the climb, which is the single most important thing. The success rate of the route she took is 95%, as compared to 50% for the whole mountain. She has climbed 5 of the 7 tallest peaks, including Mt. Vinson in Antartica, and even posted a specific video on hints to know prior to the climb of Kilimanjaro.
The time you picked is also Christmas holiday time… maybe a bit less busy not right by tChristmas/New year??
What was the full moon experience? You didn’t specify.
The weather looked beautiful.
Michael Chrichton, the late author (Jurassic Park) climbed it in his 20's as a heavy smoker on a dare with no planning or training and after a night of heavy drinking. He says he made it. Like most strenuous activity, your enjoyment goes way up the more you train. You don't want to be the one that comes into camp 2 hours after everyone else, totally exhausted.
This was such an interesting video, Dixie, although I was just about hyperventilating throughout with the thought of those heights, lol. Enjoyed learning more about Tanzania. I can see where you would have probably enjoyed more time to experience its wildlife.
Summited Kili in 2008. NBC almost killed Ann Curry that same year, sending her up Kili unprepared. She made it halfway and got deathly sick.
Ha! Got the full moon! Nice!
You want to hike at high elevations? Try living at high elevations for at least six months prior. If you aspire to climb Mt. Kilimanjaro, go live in Tibet, or at the top of the Rocky Mountains. To train for the trek, do the CDT again.
Lessons learned are always useful. Thanks.
Amazing. Informative. Thank u
thanks, very helpful video, take care!
Only way to end congestion is to raise prices. If every Tom Dick & Harry can willy-nilly climb, the endless streams of people coming will continue.
What they have done to Mt Everest is lightweight criminal. Not only are they trashing the mountain, but they are letting inexperienced climbers put themselves and others in dangerous situations because they PAID to be there. The whole industry is gross.
Thank you!!❤
Oh man..I get jet lagged. I would have needed a couple days prior.
Just a quick question,Dixie. Do you kinda relive the trip and summit as you make these follow up videos? I think I would. The chance to do a safari would be something I could see myself doing.. animals fascinate me and to see them in their natural habitat would be awesome. Know I'll never make it there so I'm grateful that you do. Also grateful you are so willing to share. Thanks.
Well done your well come back again
Excellent advice. I'm planing on taking 2 years to get myself trained and ready. I want 300 miles ish on all my kit so that I am used to it. I'll also with a mask, these strengthen lungs and gets the body used to less oxygen.
Fun fact. Mount Kilimanjaro is the tallest non American volcano.
Hypoxico : interesting but I wouldn’t do that. You want efficiency and expansion of your lungs and oxygen absorption, running and hiking stairs of tall buildings will give you that. There probably is a blood cellular assistance with that machine, but when doing those exercises you are also presenting hypoxia to your body as well as muscle and ligament support, the cost is time, but well spent. Very cool you did this trip, I loved the beauty of the environments, what a trip.
Sometimes they climb too fast at kili - I think schedules are dangerous sometimes.
I train for high altitude with weight , 5 or 7 kgs on your back .
There was an Irish guy who died there and I suspect he climbed too fast. But you just never know
Well Done on the summit
As a non climber it really seems like the industry has been commercialized to an extreme degree. Go as fast as possible, make sure they pay up front in case they freeze and cant pay later 😅. Minimal training, telling even 60 year old grannies who use a walker they can make it up, things like that. When there is a queue to get up the mountain longer than the McDonalds line, something is not right.
@@CrunchyTire I have never met a guide who wants to rush .
It's the clients who have the schedule.
Thanks for the video
Another excellent video! And your sweater is so cute! Where is it from?
ua-cam.com/video/lKjaGQHKi5k/v-deo.html - ask Rebecca 😉
After action reports are very useful. Talk to us!
Great information Dixie. I have heard there are hikes for people raising money for orphanages over there. Not sure what cost are but I think the bonus is knowing you are hiking to support a great cause.
Nice video!
❤ you Miss Dixie !! ❤
at least you didnt eat something local that is incompatible with your stomach on the first day, like i did.
3:00 Book a 4 day Mt Meru tour before if you want to acclimatize better. Cheaper. And it is trail miles 😉
Privacy on the summit: a tour with crater camp overnight. Then you are completely alone, and can watch sunrise from Uhuru peak.
Yes I watch the scent.lots of people yes. Keep it lighter.. private would been better.
How about Diamox (Acetazolamide)
Full moon would be gorgeous. The crowd was a bit much, though.
They have canisters of oxygen too.
Altitude sickness can be dangerous. Even young, healthy, athletes can be fine for one trip and then suffer Acute Mountain Sickness (AMS) on the next. AMS has nothing to do with your physical fitness. Worse, AMS can progress to HAPE or HACE, which are fatal unless you book it back down the mountain. I've seen a UA-camr recording video on a certain popular summit with textbook symptoms of HACE: stumbling (ataxia), slurring, confusion, etc. Only the fact that one of their off-camera friends urged them to descend saved their life. So, acclimatize properly!
Dixie, would a small oxygen bottle have helped you? There are small scuba bottles very reasonably priced.
Kpap: used gear for a good use. Nice.
@Homemade_Wanderlust no way: a prize? Hard to believe: I rarely win anything. Is not Telegram like some Russian communications conspiracy site, no offense to Russians, just asking?
I also must have missed you going by the glacier (you showed it from distance)...i watched another video by someone else and that was pretty amazing. Hopefully you had a chance to be by it...
You don’t walk right beside it. At least not on the path we took to go up
@@HomemadeWanderlust The realtor guy must have taken a different route. ua-cam.com/video/QalQMJbpBos/v-deo.html
@@kevinstarski1598 This is the mountaineering route over the Western Breach. Which typically also includes nearly a full day and the following night in the crater, so you have plenty of time to explore it.
I don't know, I've watched all of Dixie's footage of the trip and for that high of a cost, the trip looked like a big let-down and has made me want to go less. Way too crowded and the views and hike looked disappointing to me for the elevation and work to get there. Unless I was dead-set on visiting continent's highest peaks, I'd steer away from this one to any other place where that money would go a lot further. Maybe a private guide at a different time of year would be better who knows.
Yours is an interesting viewpoint...and I tend to agree.
I climbed Kili in Oct 2018. We had WAY better weather than Dixie, and the summit was not nearly so crowded. It was sunny for us on the summit. However....the camp areas and many spots along the trail were so littered. I hated seeing all of the discarded hand warmers on the ground, among all kinds of other trash. I was so touched by the condition of many porters' personal gear. I was thankful that a porter was NOT carrying a toilet on his head for me. (We used the common facilities at the camps...gross, but, at least, no one carried a toilet for me.)
It's fun to say I climbed Kili, but I never recommend it. 😞
Do the northern circuit
@@rosev9802 That's a good point, I didn't even think of the trash that must be around those camp sites with that much traffic going through. I don't know, I hate poo poo anyone's hike, but to me, for that cost and time investment you could buy a guided exp of Rainier 4 times over and Denali twice and I think the average person would have a much better time. Kili just has hiker trap written all over it.
@@justinparker7712 Compared to Denali, Kilimanjaro is a walk in the woods. And obviously you have no idea what a Denali climb costs, even if you do not come home in a body bag. Starts at 10,000$.
Heya!! Please can you share your gear list? Also I am really keen to know what sleeping bag did you use :)
The gear list is linked in the description
lighterpack.com/r/bblcnh
Here’s the video: ua-cam.com/video/faPFOwR9w94/v-deo.htmlsi=9GDZqvLbTMUhlviK
Hi Dixie, loved the video of this beautiful adventure. I have a question, Do you need to get a release or permission when other people are in your videos?
I just ask them before I record. If they decline I respect that
❤
How is your Stellate ganglion reboot enduring?
Hey I live in auburn alabama!! Whats your favorite trail close to our area?
I didn't understand your full moon comments. Why is it stressful?
Many people WANT to summit on full moon (because there is some light in the summit night). So there are typically more people on the mountain around this time.
great advice btw, thank you
If that reading of 86% oxygen was correct, then that was very low actually. Definitely something to be careful of. Great video!
86% is absolutely comfortable in this situation.
Amazingly, i might have flown you there!
Oh cool!!
@@HomemadeWanderlust Did you stay in Doha, or just transit?
We haven't heard much about Rodney's reactions and impressions of this trip. You must be pretty serious about each other to share such an adventure.
Are there any long-distance trails in Africa that are similar in length to the CDT/AT/PCT? I know a guy who rode a bicycle the entire length of the continent from North to South, but haven't seen or read much about any similar hiking treks. Be well, and stay safe.
5:46 ... just shoot me.
Dixie, how many years after you completed the AT did you climb Kilimanjaro? I'm planning on doing the AT in '25 and then the 'Jaro. You're my muse, young lady! ... and I have a KilimanJARo jar - putting $3 a day in it to save up for the trip.
AT was in 2015 so do the math
That is one extreme tax on donated gear!
It is not all tax, but also customs duty. 25% customs duty and 18% VAT. Makes a total of 47.5% (you have to multiply the value by 1.25 and then again by 1.18). - For import it doesn't matter if it is a present/donation or paid goods, the value is the same.
What was the price range that you paid for your trip, and the company you went through?
Here’s the entire price breakdown:
ua-cam.com/video/nYp0D-X4DFE/v-deo.html
So just send "your gear" to the porters for a climb and never go. Just because you miss a trip, darnit, they get to keep your gear.
Why is a full moon a bad time to go?
crowded. More people want to summit on a full moon
@@absinthegreen821 thanks🙌
A cheaper alternative to simulating altitude would be an altitude mask.
From what I’ve read those are not actually legit :/
@@HomemadeWanderlust I haven't tried it myself so I couldn't speak to it. Love your videos!
That "full moon" thing is weird...
I think you should do the A.T. again. That's back when it was fun. Meeting new ppl and enjoying the trip!
It’s still fun to me, sorry if it isn’t for you 🙃
@@HomemadeWanderlust oh it's still fun for me, I guess I just like the A.T. trip the best. There was so much filming. I almost felt like I was there! Keep doing what you do!! Good job 👍
What? You're not in shape? C'mon, watching all your hiking vids you were reminding me of Wonder Woman. LOL
You mean maximize your trip to Tanzania, Africa is not a country.
No she meant Africa. You can visit multiple countries in one trip. It’s much more economic, especially traveling from the States. I imagine most people who aren’t trying to be intentionally adversarial would infer she was talking about wanting visit other countries in Africa.
She specifies Zimbabwe in this video ua-cam.com/video/nYp0D-X4DFE/v-deo.html
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