Shivam and Wheeler's CASUAL COMMANDER takeover | Minsc & Boo VS Tor Wauki VS Ben-Ben VS Urza

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  • @alexmcgregor8658
    @alexmcgregor8658 4 дні тому +329

    Like this comment to thank Shivam and Wheeler for visiting ❤

    • @seanclark4071
      @seanclark4071 3 дні тому +6

      Thanks for having them it’s great they were there

    • @shivambhatt8380
      @shivambhatt8380 3 дні тому

      That shivam is a real jerk face ans should be banned

    • @stormtrooperjeepjk
      @stormtrooperjeepjk 3 дні тому

      ​@@seanclark4071 can here to say this

  • @azninja888
    @azninja888 3 дні тому +131

    "Jim has a brother???"
    Of course he does, his name is "Serge"

    • @janmelantu7490
      @janmelantu7490 2 дні тому +1

      They’re feeding the prairie boys wheat!

  • @Ragnarok633
    @Ragnarok633 3 дні тому +84

    I love seeing wheeler. If only because I'm curious what monstrosity of a deck he's brought.

    • @heykak
      @heykak 3 дні тому +6

      when I saw Ben-ben in the title, I knew what we were in for

    • @matthewloser7567
      @matthewloser7567 2 дні тому

      I still want to see Ben's Kiyomaro "not lifelink" deck where he stacks up every spirit link you can find on Kiyomaro

  • @JoshTheHod
    @JoshTheHod 3 дні тому +64

    I'm a very simple man, i see wheeler in the thumbnail and i click

  • @xremming
    @xremming 3 дні тому +21

    Shivam + Wheeler sure make for some of the best guests. Perfect shenanigans.

    • @mrTjstephens1
      @mrTjstephens1 День тому

      The podcast they do is awesome especially the bonus episodes where they brew a deck.
      "Shivam and Wheeler love magic!"

  • @adrianmetz3013
    @adrianmetz3013 3 дні тому +23

    41:25 I'm not sure if it would have changed anything, but copying the Mightstone and Weakstone spell with Drafna isn't creating a token for the Worldwalker Helm, so Aaron shouldn't have gotten a map token. Great game, though!

    • @professorpantherhardraad3921
      @professorpantherhardraad3921 3 дні тому

      It would have changed his land drop from Glacial Fortress that turn

    • @luce1746
      @luce1746 3 дні тому

      It's such a weird rule, and has confused me so many times with the snc Ob Nix

    • @adrianmetz3013
      @adrianmetz3013 3 дні тому +4

      @professorpantherhardraad3921 Yeah, but he also drew 5 cards in his turn, and still Wheeler still ended up winning, so I think it didn't change anything about the end result

  • @enoesiw
    @enoesiw 3 дні тому +13

    As an aside: notably, auras your opponents control do not make creatures you control modified. However, any attached equipment will modify a creature, regardless of the controller.

  • @angelofdespair654321
    @angelofdespair654321 3 дні тому +13

    I love Wheeler's deck, I have a Jared deck that is also a stuffy doll deck. Thing of note, blazing sunsteel on a brash taunter is actually infinite, because you can use the trigger from the equipment to repeatedly shoot the taunter and then use taunter to punch your opponents to death. Nice game!

  • @NikeOlympus
    @NikeOlympus 3 дні тому +5

    I love Wheeler. He always has great energy and makes me crack up every time. Also he has this incredible habit of playing decks that are amazing content that are hilarious to watch but that I would absolutely hate to actually play against. P.S. Ben if you're reading this the aviators are really working for you, never take them off.

  • @ImpossibilitySpace
    @ImpossibilitySpace 2 дні тому +5

    Brash Taunter and Sunsteel is actually an infinite combo. Sunsteel damage can target the creature holding the Sunsteel, retriggering Sunsteel and BT, meaning you can machine-gun down each opponent.

  • @tzarl
    @tzarl 3 дні тому +22

    Question: Am I misreading or is blazing sunsteel + brash taunter + any damage to the taunter = instant death loop to everyone? Because you can redirect the sunsteel's damage back to the taunter to re-trigger both abilities and use the taunters trigger to damage opponents each time you do the loop. Totally understand if they didn't want to play it that way.

    • @harleyhunt4146
      @harleyhunt4146 3 дні тому +10

      That is correct! Wheeler could have killed the table with the infinite loop that he had on board.

    • @irreleverent
      @irreleverent 3 дні тому +7

      I'm pretty confident Wheeler is aware of that and thought this was more fun.

  • @timothyvandenberg2905
    @timothyvandenberg2905 3 дні тому +2

    After watching this, it's now undeniable: Shivam and Wheeler really DO love Magic! :)

  • @ajmel13
    @ajmel13 3 дні тому +5

    COPPER TABLET!
    Let’s gooooooooo

  • @Doug464
    @Doug464 3 дні тому

    I love the energy wheeler brings to the already fantastic pods you guys have ❤

  • @KidAlphaMax
    @KidAlphaMax 2 дні тому +3

    Everyone yelling at their screens "No! Don't let him make an emblem!!"

  • @Spotifist
    @Spotifist 3 дні тому +3

    Wow, these guests really Love Magic!
    Thanks for the video 💚

  • @Thaelkor
    @Thaelkor 3 дні тому +1

    You guys are great, love having Shivam and Wheeler at the table always hilarious.

  • @thevaultwalrus
    @thevaultwalrus 3 дні тому +7

    Ben-Ben only wanted to help the Akki but they hated him

  • @jimstewart4929
    @jimstewart4929 2 дні тому

    Thank you for having him, it's great to see him here.

  • @lelandwhitehead56
    @lelandwhitehead56 3 дні тому +2

    It's so funny, I originally didn't like Wheeler, but he has grown on me so much to the point where he may be my favorite MTG personality, definitely in the top 5.

  • @cainancapko4149
    @cainancapko4149 3 дні тому +4

    The side-effect of ADHD bit is too good, and to take it even further, I almost typed that as "EDHD."

  • @AnonYmous-et4mz
    @AnonYmous-et4mz 3 дні тому +3

    Always great to see Shivam and Wheeler with the Spikes :)

  • @beningram1811
    @beningram1811 2 дні тому +1

    Singing “Suddenly we’re bobbling” to the tune of “Everyday I’m shuffling”, is quite fun.

  • @thedevilcomes2011
    @thedevilcomes2011 3 дні тому

    That would be a game and a half :D GG Wheeler, Shivam, Bill and Aaron!

  • @Jjdude101
    @Jjdude101 3 дні тому

    I love all these Wheeler and Shivam episodes!

  • @dominik1993sagner
    @dominik1993sagner 3 дні тому +1

    Such a good game, and honestly the booblehead deck feels like it could be a Wheeler Brew as well, but yeah obviously Ben-Ben is a very interesting deck

  • @badgeronriodz6792
    @badgeronriodz6792 3 дні тому +5

    I've never clicked so fast on a video.

  • @taylorjohnson5148
    @taylorjohnson5148 3 дні тому

    Great video

  • @connorl0204
    @connorl0204 3 дні тому +1

    Had no idea that bill jim and eliot are all related. Fun facts today boys.

  • @herman1850
    @herman1850 2 дні тому

    Love the Wheeler decks he's played recently. Death by a thousand stings. Now this one. Very focused.
    And I have a Baubles deck too! The sixth doctor (simic) is my commander. Generally finishes with 5 or so copies of enormous Darksteel colossus, but have dabbled into the rolling 13 dice for the luck Bobbleheads. 😆

  • @hellNo116
    @hellNo116 3 дні тому

    hell yeah!u i get home and i shivam and wheeler in spike feeders. i couldn't ask for something better right now!!!

  • @MentallyLatent
    @MentallyLatent 3 дні тому +2

    Oh no this Kederekt Parasite is copper tablet 2: pinging boogaloo
    Unfortunately it has not actually been copper tablet 2

  • @brettsutherland8390
    @brettsutherland8390 3 дні тому +2

    Why does the Gamegenic song go so hard?

  • @ImpossibilitySpace
    @ImpossibilitySpace 2 дні тому

    A copy of a permanent spell resolving does not "create" a token for the purposes of Worldwalker Helm. The copy of a permanent spell becomes a token when it resolves. Of note, any sort of token doubling or increasing effect does not work with copying permanents.

  • @IndreadColde
    @IndreadColde 3 дні тому

    Another banger, ShivLeer unparalleled

  • @freya002YT
    @freya002YT 3 дні тому

    Yes

  • @lukehathaway9674
    @lukehathaway9674 3 дні тому

    I’m so excited to whatever flavor of jank Wheeler brings

  • @iamverytiredrn
    @iamverytiredrn 3 дні тому

    you know that jim added homeward path to tor wauki deck because of that commander at home game lol

  • @MrCrimAngel
    @MrCrimAngel 2 дні тому

    great game

  • @WayneyMTG
    @WayneyMTG 20 годин тому

    I've seen a lot of MH3 lately, great to see a nice casual game to break it up, let's go!!!

  • @Rycore
    @Rycore 3 дні тому +1

    Aaron coulda made a coupla more copies of Mightstone and Weakstone there on his last turn, clearing Wheeler's board, but I assume was afflicted with a classic case of Bobble-blindness. Fun game!

    • @STS-qi1qy
      @STS-qi1qy 3 дні тому +1

      He kept the original since he had already tapped the token for mana. He then used it to cast the Mirrorworks. I get *why* he decided on that line of play but it definitely cost him.

    • @Rycore
      @Rycore 3 дні тому +1

      @@STS-qi1qy eh, that was the turn before and he did cast and copy sculpting steel to make 2 more bobbleheads, hence the bobble-blindness

  • @terraqueo89
    @terraqueo89 3 дні тому

    Wheeler came with the spice! I love weird commanders.

  • @lilmaeifert
    @lilmaeifert 3 дні тому +1

    I can’t tell whether Aaron actually likes Fallout or not at this point

  • @STS-qi1qy
    @STS-qi1qy 3 дні тому +1

    Unfortunate that Aaron hadn't kept the token The Mightstone and Weakstone as he could have copied it with the Helm to get rid of the doll. Might have been able to steal the win that way.

    • @braidonjohnson614
      @braidonjohnson614 День тому

      He also could have copied it with sculpting steel on the later turn and probably have won!!!

  • @christophermccarthy2801
    @christophermccarthy2801 День тому

    38:46 correct me if I’m wrong, Wheeler can just win here, by any damage to Brash Taunter. He needed to save the Blazing Sunsteel before the fight trigger, but when Brash Taunter takes damage, the Sunsteel can just target Brash Taunter, and instantly win the game. Maybe he didn’t want to combo out like that, but the extra steps to shoot Shivam and use the Mogg/Stuffy Doll was just unnecessary flash

  • @STS-qi1qy
    @STS-qi1qy 3 дні тому

    Wheeler and/or Shivam make Magic better. Always great to see them in games.

  • @gargeyy
    @gargeyy 3 дні тому

    the copied mightstone and weekstone wouldn't technically make a map tokem because a copy of a spell resolving isn't a token being created, it just resolves as a token

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 3 дні тому

    Finally get to see wheelers 2 ben deck

  • @Amaryterasu
    @Amaryterasu 3 дні тому +2

    Couldn't he have leveled up Artificer Class to make another Might and Powerstone on endstep and give Stuffy doll minus 5/5

    • @Theorak
      @Theorak 20 годин тому

      Correct, would have suggested that. But I like was the Urza Booble Head list does. Just a lot of burn and damage in this pod^^.

  • @veganpork7601
    @veganpork7601 2 дні тому

    9:07 Outrageous take lmao

  • @Dekaar
    @Dekaar День тому

    I read "oh casual commander" then I read "Minsc & Boo" , got Hamster Vietnam flashbacks remembering every minsc and boo I played against and said "Casual... yeah... right"

  • @burningpapersun1
    @burningpapersun1 3 дні тому

    Super spike player shivam!

  • @beardlybear6528
    @beardlybear6528 3 дні тому

    i wonder if ben will ever build wayta brash stuffy doll tribal

  • @famousstranger8468
    @famousstranger8468 3 дні тому

    I love how Shivan has to remind his guest on his show to thank gamegenic for supplying his said show with goodies for him and his guest... on his show by tapping their arms

  • @jakublis12
    @jakublis12 3 дні тому

    What's the difference between being goaded with and without the sauce?
    Can't find anything about it online 😅

  • @Giga-lemesh
    @Giga-lemesh 3 дні тому

    Would have been cool to see some more epic bobbling, but can't be mad with the Ben Ben win

  • @semperignotus
    @semperignotus День тому

    I’m not sure if Wheeler realised he had an infinite combo or not. Blazing Sunsteeo plus Brash taunted is infinite. You just have the sun steel hit the taunter, trigger both, taunter hits face sunsteel hits taunter, repeat. There’s a good chance he saw it and just didn’t want to go for it for fun value, but it’s also possible he didn’t see it

  • @Ragnaroc90
    @Ragnaroc90 3 дні тому

    Minsc and boo are great but the only thing I don't like it can be interacted with before you get to activate because it's etb effect of putting boo into play uses the stack. Been so many times I would play it and then it be removed as boo comes into play

    • @starmanda88
      @starmanda88 3 дні тому

      This doesn’t sound right to me.

    • @Natedogg2
      @Natedogg2 3 дні тому

      @@starmanda88 No, it's right. You can't activate a loyalty ability if there's a spell or ability on the stack, and Minsc & Boo have an enter the battlefield trigger that creates the token. That trigger uses the stack and can be responded to, so players can remove Minsc & Boo before the token is created (and before they can activate one of its loyalty abilities).

  • @SylveonSimp
    @SylveonSimp 2 дні тому

    37:08 xD bruh

  • @TheGrifcannon22
    @TheGrifcannon22 3 дні тому +2

    I think Bill was mistaken about the order of damage replacements. I believe the player being affected chooses the order so they can choose to double first then apply the one.

    • @irreleverent
      @irreleverent 3 дні тому +1

      Is that not exactly what he said?

    • @TheVladeha
      @TheVladeha 3 дні тому +2

      that's exactly what he said

  • @MareczqZglos
    @MareczqZglos 3 дні тому

    Did i miss something or stuff doll shoud not work at the end of game ? Shivan was the "chosen" player if I am correct.

    • @Natedogg2
      @Natedogg2 3 дні тому +1

      Stuffy Doll's trigger won't do anything, but the Blazing Sunsteel attached to the Doll will still work fine and will deal damage.

  • @papaflowers5726
    @papaflowers5726 День тому +1

    So many bad jokes are hysterical here and no one gives Shivam any love for "Ancient Twom", you monsters.

  • @Jumbletron81
    @Jumbletron81 День тому

    i thought the yellow straw was a feeble attempt at censoring wheelers ponder tat

  • @Guevon_Pajaro
    @Guevon_Pajaro 11 годин тому

    Another Wheeler masterpiece of a pile of cards (commander deck)

  • @loganator326
    @loganator326 3 дні тому +3

    Wheeler builds decks the way I aspire to. I have started just making absolutely goofy stuff that somehow makes my opponents life totals 0 and it's phenomenal

  • @NotQuiteAllHere
    @NotQuiteAllHere 2 дні тому

    >January 3rd
    Hey, my birthday!

  • @phyrexia4ever
    @phyrexia4ever 2 дні тому

    Endgame note: Don't trust Wheeler if he want's an emblem ever again

  • @Durtaz
    @Durtaz 2 дні тому

    Dream blunt rotation:

  • @ezraandersen7133
    @ezraandersen7133 14 годин тому

    Like here if you could in fact tell that Shivam’s mic was off in the beginning 😂

  • @Varler_
    @Varler_ 2 дні тому

    Turns out, letting someone Planeswalker emblem for free is a bad idea! Lol.

  • @cadet87
    @cadet87 3 дні тому

    Top 3

  • @SkittleWolf
    @SkittleWolf 2 дні тому

    WHO DREW THE JOJO BOO TOKEN!?

  • @MrJ03K3rR
    @MrJ03K3rR День тому

    Wait, isn't Taunter + Sword infinite?

  • @stormtrooperjeepjk
    @stormtrooperjeepjk 3 дні тому

    Enchantment say wha? Lol

  • @krikyiddirp2436
    @krikyiddirp2436 3 дні тому

    Shouldn't tor wauki trigger off war room?

    • @Natedogg2
      @Natedogg2 3 дні тому

      It's paying life, not dealing damage.

    • @blue17echo
      @blue17echo 2 дні тому +1

      It does make your ancient tomb ping you for 3 though.

  • @luce1746
    @luce1746 3 дні тому +1

    Weird rules pedentry, Aaron shouldn't actually make a map from the helm when the Drafna copy happened, because a copy of a permanant spell is different from making a token

    • @Pyrophyte5
      @Pyrophyte5 3 дні тому

      Can you elaborate? Drafna's ability says "The copy becomes a token", so I'm confused as to why it wouldn't work.

    • @TheVladeha
      @TheVladeha 3 дні тому

      ​@@Pyrophyte5technically it's not "creating a token"

    • @Natedogg2
      @Natedogg2 3 дні тому +1

      @@Pyrophyte5 A copy of a permanent spell resolving becomes a token, but you're not "creating" it since it already exists.
      111.13. A copy of a permanent spell becomes a token as it resolves. The token has the characteristics of the spell that became that token. The token is not “created” for the purposes of any replacement effects or triggered abilities that refer to creating a token.

    • @Pyrophyte5
      @Pyrophyte5 2 дні тому

      @@Natedogg2 That's good to know, thank you for the thorough reply and including the relevant rules text :)

  • @JustinNovack
    @JustinNovack 2 дні тому

    *quietly* ...copper tablet...

  • @weeklyweeks7545
    @weeklyweeks7545 3 дні тому

    If you’re still watching this in 2043 you’re a legend

  • @maniac0122cb
    @maniac0122cb 3 дні тому +3

    Bill I’m sorry to say but actually the damage modifiers/replacement effects are chosen by the affected player. They stack the modifiers in an order of their choosing and not the owner of the permanents. I learned this the hard way when I played Ojer Axonil with multiple replacement effects.

    • @irreleverent
      @irreleverent 3 дні тому +4

      That's what he said, and the one time it sort of came up he asked wheeler what order the effects would apply to the damage coming at his creature.