Playing a vinyl record 100x in a row, does it ruin it?

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  • Опубліковано 9 чер 2018
  • In this quick video I show the frequency response comparison of a track on a record played before and after 100 plays. Does it ruin it? How much damage or wear is done?
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  • @NiiOnLood
    @NiiOnLood 5 років тому +9

    There was an experiment made with the quadraphonic record that was played one hundred times with cheap ceramic stereo cartridge at 5 gram vtf. It was then played using high end quadraphonic equipment and shibata stylus. 30+ khz signal was unreadable. However, the shibata stylus acted as snowplough collecting heavy dust around itself. After few plays the 30+ khz carrier signal was decoded successfully and full 4-channel audio was reproduced. There might have something to do with possibly advanced vinyl compound, i really don't know. But I have dozens of old soviet made Melodya-labeled records (their quality was very variable) which were played using cheapest ceramic cartridge hell knows how many times with extremely high vtf. My grandfather really didn't take much care of his records, there are many fingerprints and dust and moderate scrathes on records. Guess what? They really have increased surface noise but music itself sound nice and undistorted, even highs.

  • @Luca-vg1wp
    @Luca-vg1wp Рік тому

    Thank you for this test!

  • @digitalampco7640
    @digitalampco7640 4 роки тому +1

    A null test and amplified playback (plus an FFT would be nice) of the result for a few seconds of a loud track would have been better. Do you still have the data? If so, you can still do it. The null test needs to be precisely time and amplitude aligned, which can be tedious, and it’s the reason for only selecting a few seconds of a track as opposed to a longer duration. Using the null test result, we’d be able to hear the actual difference. Also, as someone else mentioned, 1000 plays instead of 100 (:

  • @leon9021
    @leon9021 6 років тому +4

    Thing is, I believe vinyl actually wears down this way by introducing more surface noise. It would be really interesting to see if a clean actually helped or not. And the high end is always what goes first since its hardest to track.
    Also, what cartridhe did you use and whats the VTF?
    Ill be doing my own testing sometime in the future to see how it degrades with different producrs like LAST and deep RCM cleaning.

    • @Electronicle
      @Electronicle  6 років тому +1

      I'll give it a good clean and check the Freq response then. Its an album I don't much care for so after the test I just put it away, however that is a good idea. The carts used: The Sony has a AT301ep and the Technics uses a Pickering XV-15. Both tables are setup with a tracking force of 1.5g...the Technics does not have the brush installed on the stylus and both use elliptical stylus's.

    • @art_faith
      @art_faith 2 роки тому

      > ...an album I don't much care for...
      Perhaps one of the most sorrowful comments/reviews about a composition is a definition of indifference.

    • @Electronicle
      @Electronicle  Рік тому +1

      @@art_faith LOL I got an entire crate of Mitch Miller albums if you want em! I don't listen to records just because they're records. I listen to records because I like the sound and the material on them. This was one of those albums that I couldn't give away if I tried.

  • @damienhartley1832
    @damienhartley1832 3 роки тому +3

    What if you whiped the record down with wd-40 before each playing? Surely grit free layer of oil will reduce friction or maybe use a laser player🤔

    • @Electronicle
      @Electronicle  Рік тому +2

      Nah laser players although sound great in theory are absolutely awful in practice. The disk needs to be 100% perfectly clean. The slightest imperfection can cause it to stop tracking or the noise is incredibly loud. I don't own one but have read countless reviews. There's also some videos on youtube demonstrating them. The owners who bought them were incredibly disappointed. As far as WD-40. I don't know the answer to that however there's a lot of controversy about playing a record wet. Many do it to quiet down a record with a lot of surface noise. The last I've heard the general consensus is that it causes the stylus to essentially lag behind and could cause more damage in the long run. Think of moving your arm or hand back and forth while your in a pool. However again, I have no idea what the real truth is.

  • @robertschnobert9090
    @robertschnobert9090 2 місяці тому

    This is pretty sad. I like records (please do NOT call it vinyl) because you can hear the history of the material. You realize that it was played a lot. It's the superior format because it deteriorates. Just like a beautiful young woman (or man) 🌈

    • @materiaisdeestudos9219
      @materiaisdeestudos9219 2 місяці тому

      "Vinyl" is a synonym for "record" or "LP." If someone says, "I'm listening to a vinyl," what they mean is that they're listening to a record /an LP. There's no good reason for avoiding the word "vinyl," is there?