THE BURGER CHEF MURDERS
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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I’m so confused why the police didn’t close the scene or even take pictures… even if it was the kids that took the money wouldn’t that still… make it a crime scene
I personally cannot help but think of the possible racism that prevented the police from inquruing more.... it was the 70's and maybe its because as a poc, my mind almost always goes there however, I couldn't help but wondering if they thought "yup another black kid leading a robbery" (a stereotype) and just didn't look more into it. Like the comment above mentioned the town has deep rooted history of racism so I just wouldn't be surprised if the cops lack of care, inquiry, and due diligence is due to Mark's skin colour.
I remember this. I am from a town 45 minutes from there. I was 22 then, had a one year old. It was the 70's. A lot has changed since then. The feeling of a lot of kids then was a free spirit. Petty thefts were common. Till then the biggest thing in Speedway was the Indianapolis 500. This was an awakening for the police to take all situations like this serious. They had a lot of learning to do for what should be done when reaching a situation like this. At this time Interstate 70, Interstate 65 and Interstate 69 cross each other in Indianapolis. It became and still is a big drug connection area. There still are drug gangs. Today the Mexican cartel is a drug gang and causes many problems in the US.
@@messymomentsss I'm one of the other races but suspecting racism at every opportunity is not a good idea. Also the other 3 where white. Who knows what races the officers were. People have been blatantly racist to me while just eating at a restaurant and other places I know how frustrating it can be an it still happens (not often tho )
Speedway Indiana was a sundowner town back then, I wouldn’t be shocked if law enforcement were involved. As soon as they realized a black kid was involved, they blamed it on drugs . Today is far more inclusive there now.
In November of 2018 four trees were planted in memory of Jayne Friedt, Ruth Ellen Shelton, Mark Flemmonds, and Daniel Davis at Leonard Park in Speedway. Each tree has a plaque next to it, telling people a little more about each of their lives.
I love the ambient storm sounds in the background 😁
Ok I’m so glad someone else heard those cause I thought I was hearing things 🤣
@@pikagirlintraining5492 same I was tripping at first 😂😂
We have been having numerous storms everyday the last week or so, lots of thunder, rain some places with huge hail. I’m not sure how far away I live from Bella but I live in Brisbane too and the storms have been wild the last week. ⛈⛈⛈
Me too!!!!
It really added to the story ⛈
I know I’ve heard this case and the details of it before but I was also confused for a moment because this case sounds so so much like the kfc murders that also included 4 employees being kidnapped and killed at a separate similar location. The similarities are pretty astounding..
That’s what I was thinking! They are pretty astounding like you said… wow..
i was literally just thinking this !!
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But don’t you need service to call your own voicemail? That would waste precious battery too
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Ugh got me in the heart when you said the guy recognised the uniforms, they weren’t bodies they were just kids it just puts it into perspective
Same, the uniform quote really got me too.
Weird how nothing is said about the brother being questioned. I mean, surely he must know who he double crossed/owed money, especially since Forrester confessed.
Good catch!
I was wondering that too, especially after Forrester backed out the brother would be the only other person they knew of who could maybe have some information.
I'm 9 minutes in to this video and just have to say something about the incident. Why did they open the store the next morning, knowing that this didn't feel right? They knew something was up and that the police were wrong. It shouldn't have been business as usual until they heard something else about the employees, just in case they needed to let police in to investigate. That was more important than them staying open to make more money for the owner. It's just sad.
Makes me think about how many times I've emptied the trash after closing with jobs I've had over the years. Often with the back door wide open late at night.
I’m SO livid hearing the cops did nothing at the crime scene. Imagine being their parents and finding that out. I’d have been in jail myself after realizing the cops allowed the entire scene to be scrubbed clean and didn’t even bother taking pictures where my kid was taken. EPIC fail.
I spend a lot of time in Speedway going to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway for racing events. The track is just a few blocks down Crawfordsville road from the burger chef building. The building is empty but still there. I always say a little prayer for them when I drive passed it.
This was the same night the Star Wars Holiday Special aired on tv. Also same weekend Jim Jones and his Peoples Temple committed mass suicide and murdered 300 children.
Hey Bella
Impressed with the amount of info on this case that you are able to give especially because your from down under!
The location is 10 min at most from my home ….. look into the kfc robbery in Kilgore TX in Sept of 1983 ….im convinced they used the speedway playbook …..”cold case files “. Did an episode on it in 2021….. I also believe that if they re examine the kids clothing again they will find that Jayne was raped/ assaulted. It would offer a different explanation as to why she was separated from the others …..it simply doesn’t make since why anyone would risk a 4 capital murder charges over 500 bucks divided 3 or 4 ways, the purps just like to kill and I think Jayne was the primary target
That young girl working 56 hrs a week….. college, gymnastics, teachers aid ! Where did she find the time!!!!???? What a waste of a fruitful life!!!!!
See this is why sometimes law enforcements don’t share info w/ the press, bc they either expose some of their evidence or information and it gives the perpetrators time to get rid of whatever they had, change their MO, flee, random people come forward to take credit w/ the info that was leaked, etc. Not saying we don’t deserve to know and that the press do some good by exposing some of the stories and help law enforcement by catching things they missed but I do think that sometimes there are people who are trying to get a “juicy” story to elevate themselves or try to be the first to say it.
Certainly right about how decisions can change your future and those around you, but completely unpredictable.
Thanks for another great, but tragic, video Bella.
Those poor innocent children :(
Wow that thunder storm at the background is so soothing
$500? Four children’s innocent lives for $500? Makes me sick to my stomach.
$500 in 1978 is about $2,300 today.
I LOVE the storm in the background
It’s so interesting when Bella covers a case in your area! It’s so eerie seeing the maps of the roads and the area where the crimes took place and it’s all within like 20 minutes your home😅
I work for a burger chain and I can tell you now, we don’t scrub the place from top to bottom everyday. And the office definitely isn’t cleaned every day.
Classmate of mine.. her friends happened to be bullys to me.. but she pulled me aside in 8th grade..in a after school meeting that she liked my oddness..and my unique weirdness. We were never close. 9th grade she went missing. We had English together. I remember looking at where she sat..and as time went..we knew she was missing missing...till months later she was found. I was fond of her. The way she was found.. the details amongst classmates.. live in my head. She had beautiful long blonde hair.. they chopped.. and she was violated.. she didn't deserve that. There was speculation of a similar murder in Fremont..similar m.o. I can't remember this guy's name... not enough was done..I don't know her loved one personally.. but it left a great impact.. even the girls who were mean to me..we have all grown up...I left my hometown at 18..so I don't have that life anymore..
Bella!!!!! Hope your doing well with everything going on in Australia❤️ always happy to see and upload by you
Wow 28 seconds since upload, that's my quickest notification ever! Love Bella
bella pls can u make some book videos like a bookshelf tour 🥺
Bella I listen to these to fall asleep like podcasts but when UA-cam goes off it’s super upsetting PLS PODCAST
BELLA! WHERE YOU BEEN LOCA??? all jokes aside, glad to see you on my feed again
I actually love watching your mondays! You are soo pretty also!
am i the only one that LOVES her different earrings?
this was really nice to listen to with the storm in the background!
friend: do you watch *murder mystery monday* ?
me: no, don’t know her, i only know *true crime thursday* :>
please please please do a case on Joanne Radcliff and Kirsty Gordan, the 2 girls that went missing from Adelaide oval back in the 70s.
This is wild I went to Speedway HS & Junior High & Wheeler Elementary School go SPARKPLUGS!!
Side note the Speedway Police are extremely racist so I'm not surprised that they hadn't solved the case. I lived there for 11 years.
bella: and they clean up the scene.
Me: *sighs* nooooo
I'm obsessed with your videos, love you Bella 😊💗
why have i never heard of burger chef
not me watching this while working a graveyard shift at mcdonalds
2022 is the twenty year anniversary of Ashley pond and Miranda Gaddis going missing. Two schoolgirls from oregon. I was 10 when it happened and it changed everything in the Portland metro. I think it’d be an interesting video for you to cover!
Also stabbing someone to the chest is symbolic of "betrayal" or "rejection" in love. Maybe Jane's family could hopefully remember any stalker/ person she was worried about
Loving the Queensland weather in the background :)
I just love your voice so much girl! Nice to see you again 😊
Reading that title, clicking the video and being greeted by you being this joyful is a bit jarring but not in a bad way xD I just wasn't ready xD
The rain and thunder in the back ground made this video so great 😂😂🥰🥰
Please do Gabby petito so sad and I just hope she gets justice 😭💗
Hey Bella!!
Could you please cover the Jessica Lal case??
Bella, where the hell have you been loca???
Omg, I snorted! 🤣
I just saw this case on criminally listed but exited to see how bella takes this :D
Ever read emmett till
This is so sad all these beautiful people killed so horribly I hope they rest in peace ❤
not me getting a McDonalds ad before this
Sis now I’m having a whole existence crisis about him choosing to work that shift, a little decision and that meant he would die 😭😭
Can you please do the Menendez brothers trial !!
when you like the video before it even starts😄
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is what inspired the five nights at Freddy's games.
So much promise and potential destroyed for greed. The killers didn't have to kill those kids just to steal the money.
It was obviously a crime scene but the police didn't take pictures? Even if they thought the teens took the money, that's still a crime. Find it so hard to believe these people can be so careless. And no one informed the employees coming in the next day not to disturb the place??
Take a shot every time she said Janes brother James
Can you talk about the Delphi Murders pleaseeee
The person who called the police might be involved in this. Maybe he was the third one because in the all calls he mentions that the third person didnt had any part in the killings but only in the robbery
I absolutely love your videos!
Can you cover the zahara Baker case?
im so heart broken…
This all happened like an hour from my home
Oh wow I thought Sirloin Stockade was just a local thing. I didn't know it was a chain. Also why do so many of these stories involve HORRIFIC police work?
Maybe police knew who probably did it but botched the case out of fear
the thunder in the background 😫
Thank you Bella!!!
Could you check out the Scarlet A murder of Beth Barnard?? It happened in Phillip Island and is still a mystery.
I just found your channel this week and absolutely love it!
how the hell do they have literal kids working on their own on the closing shift? like what?
They found out what happened and why, even if they didn't get a chance to convict. What counts as "enough evidence" seems like arbitrary technicalities sometimes, and that definitely feels true in this instance. The only unknown is his accomplices' identities. That wouldn't make me go so far as to call this "unsolved".
What did they find out and do you know the names
@@puckettdapirate9767 Asking what they found out sounds like you didn't watch the video and asking about names sounds like you didn't even read my comment.
Are the police ever correct when they say oh I’m sure it’s nothing??
one of those cases that is solved just not in the eyes of the law. no justice.
Ok I have new favourite Bella earrings! :)
17th of November my b-day is was 87!!
Missed your lovely voice
I wish if we are friends.. in real life
Brissy, beautiful one day, pissing down rain the next!
rip Kmart 💔
Is the word. 'groovy' coming back?
Lets mess up both the crime scenes, but hey we'll do hypnosis on someone who saw a guy with a beard
My late cousin was a firefighter. He and 2 other firefighters were on their way to extinguish a fire. He was sitting in the passenger’s seat. On their way, the one sitting in the middle asked him to swap seats because he wanted to smoke. Not 3 minutes later, the vehicle crashes and both him and the driver died. The person who wanted to smoke and swapped seats survived because he was flown out of the window. That seat was my cousin’s seat.
When your time comes, it will always come.
Seems as though they could’ve done something with those bullet casings?
So sad. They would all be about in their 60s now. All their parents are probably gone and never got to find out what happened. Sad this case was never solved. Rest In Peace. ♥️
I'm sure they found out after they passed and I'm sure they are all together now. Parents and children together.
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Some could still be alive they wouldn't be that old one would only 56
The amount of times mark could have lived in this case breaks my heart.
Mark who?
Bella PLEASE make podcasts!!
I second this
right!!
As often as I listen to true crime during chores and long drives to see my parents, I could get down with this.
I LEGIT COULDN’T AGREE MOREEEEE!!! ❤️ 🎤 📺 📱
Yessss that would be so amazing 🤩
the storm in the background is a ✨paid actor✨
I thought it was my headphone. nice to see this comment
Whoever it was that swapped shifts with Mark that night must have been feeling such immense survivor’s guilt, I hope they at least managed to recover and live the long and fulfilling life that the others were robbed of.
A few comments up is the cousin of the person that switched shifts with Mark
When I heard what happened to Mark I started bawling. To think all of this could have been avoided for him if he was a little less willing to be helpful to his coworker that day 😭
Not to be the diction police, but: You mean bawling, I think. Bawling (crying) and balling (making the sexy time) are two different things.
@@chrispaul6290 😂 Yes I truly do apologize I was crying while typing that so didn't see my keyboard clearly. Plus my autocorrect fails me all the time.
@@chrispaul6290 wait balling means sexy time? 🤣 what country are you from? I love hearing lingo from other places lol I don’t think that’s a thing in America!
all 4 had such promising futures :( rest in peace
Mark was my classmate , my cousin was the boy he switched shifts with at the last moment . This was such a heinous , heartbreaking thing to happen to the tiny town of Speedway . It was during the Brett Kimberlin bombings and murder of Julia Cyphers . There is a much more sinister plot behind all of this but …. I don’t feel it’s my place to say . Speedway’s dark and deep racism and police ineptitude played a huge part in this never being solved . The “ Vietnam Vet “ was a decorated war hero , father , husband and community member who took his own life years later unable to endure the pain and the life burdens of the injury Brett Kimberlin inflicted . Those poor kids were children . Children working at their first jobs , thinking about hayrides and prom, first kisses , trying new forbidden things as all teenagers do ( it was the 70’s!) . They were abducted , taken into the dark woods and coldly , senselessly murdered , may they all Rest In Peace and power .
My mom knew Jane in High School. She has talked about this case since I can remember. It has always bothered me. I was born in '78 and to this day, I still think about it. I do know there is a lot more to the "story" then what was said here. I hope your cousin doesn't carry any guilt.
I was a 70s teenager too. Those were wild years. I think its worse now. The kids these days have to worry about getting shot in
school! At least we didn't have that to deal with. It was all about free love, party's, drinking beer and smoking weed. ❤
I feel for your cousin. That's a heavy burden to carry. But it was not
your cousins time to go. God knows the day the hour the minute and the second when he calls us home. God bless you your cousin and your whole family.
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@@kellyfelly6645 Can we stop with the god bs. If your god Knew this would happen and didn't intervene then while letting these killers go free then he is an evil god and you are a demon or and idiot for believing this foolery. Grow up
@@Im_telling_on_your_asses at the end of the day they were tryna be positive and you ruined it go away if u don’t like it don’t acknowledge it
Bella, you’re so talented! I love the way you tell all the stories. Don’t stop!
Also she is gorgeous :)
What's her talent
@@dropp3d719 it’s clear what her talent is
@@klaudii_x9447 what is it
I'd pay to watch Bella read nursery rhymes.
i’m only three minutes in but how sad is it that one survives a war and comes home just to have their leg blown off 😢
i have a feeling like the guy who came into work "to help out" might of been the third person in who was writing the letters, he had access to the store, new the roster for the night and was the one who reported them missing. like you said who actually chooses to go into work on their day off? he knew the right people to call and that would of given him an alibi
I used to visit work after clocking out. I had good friends there.
Damn, this makes so much sense. On the other hand, I was one of those people that would hang out at my job on my days off, lmao 😂. But that’s because it was like a bar/restaurant and my cousins also worked there, lol.
My mind wandered there also.. you just never know
Great point.
this the one… & they always say how like the murderer always revisit the crime scene, i think he probably didn’t know they were gonna be killed but going back to the crime scene and discovering it would make sense back then, quick lick for drug money, & yk there’s always that one person that never follow the plans, everybody swear they not gonna kill but one person always take it too far!!
Omg, that storm sounds heavenly 😍
I have followed this case since 1978. I graduated with Jayne from Avon High School. Thank you, Bella, for telling the story in such a factual manner. I actually learned a few things I had not heard before. We talk about Jayne at every reunion. She was exactly as you described her; nice, funny, and always smiling.
This gives major "Austin Yogurt Shop Murders" vibes to me.
Different states and many years apart, I know, but still I wonder if there are any connections besides the unsolved factor and their base level similarities. I hope it gets solved one day.
This made me think of the yogurt shop murders also
I thought the exact same thing. Its seems like such a scary world these days. I'm glad I'm older and not a young girl now. All tho
I lived in California for Bundy the hillside stranglers and the night stalker. That all was scary. When I think of how we used to hitchhike !!! I just thank God for looking out for me.
Seems like a copycat to me
I don’t know how I’ve never seen this similarity before! I’ve known about both of these cases for years and never thought about the two in the same thought!
@@kellyfelly6645 Or the 1983 KFC murders as well. Pretty similar to this.
I know it ain’t I know it ain’t the STALLION!😍
you know it’s your girl 🥳
You know it's yo girllllll 💅🏾
So sad that the ending of your video had this result, but Bella, thank you again for making a professional video.
To the victims. May you all be at peace. To the families….
Now Bella has made this video, you are no longer alone in your hurt. People all around the world wish your hearts peace too. I hope you one day will get the answers.
Xxx
Literally just hoping you'd upload right now!!
Me too! I saw my UA-cam notification come up and I was like please let it be Bella ❤️
Ik, right?! I've been listening old videos of hers all day lol
I understand this comment 🙌🏽🙌🏽 been waiting for sis to upload
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