Honest to God, this is just an abusive, toxic relationship. Can't even totally blame him for falling for that, anybody who's been in a toxic relationship knows. Really hope he wakes up though and realizes.
Raegan Sheng nope most people who are bipolar like Victoria if she’s able to get help and practice being mindful will she succeed. I even mistaken her condition for narcissist, but the crying, the constant seeking for attention, impulsive “cheating” and highs of mania... damn!
@ Sydney, and he literally, loves it....makes no sense, and then I think about the girls he let go...he is determined to make this girl love him....is he related to Colton????
if she were actually innocent, her natural response would have been complete confusion as to what Merissa meant and she would have asked more than 1-2 questions about it. Oh yeah... and she wouldnt immediately try to turn it all around onto HIM.
Funny thing is that she's not even really denying what he's accusing her of, lol. The fact the she's made it this far is pathetic. This dude must be blind because everything about her screams red flags with blaring loud sirens.
@@rainrain7936 Gaslighting is a term used when describing one of the traits of someone with a narcissistic personality dlsorder. They use manipulation to project you as the problem. They feed off of that supply. Very toxic. I just divorced one.
Victoria F is clearly hiding a tank load of bad secret. She very good at manipulating and get things off tangent. God, she is one of the most controversial contestant. First with the shirt slogan incidence, and now this .
It just amazes me how early in the show she was portrayed as the quiet, shy, "I've been so sheltered" type of girl. The truth of the matter is she has been in more SH*T than we know and definitely likes to keep SH*T stirred up. Get her gone please. IMMATURE and deceptive!!
Nineveh Zoudo either BPD or narcissist..not diagnosing, but she is definitely displaying some of the tendencies..gaslighting, manipulation, acting crazy and playing the victim, dishonesty, the need to create drama, etc.
@@nbencier Atleast you're not set on saying she's bipolar and spreading misinformation about bipolar disorder in the comments... I just can't with this "G Money" person. (yes I agree, she's showing tendencies of BPD and NPD, but you can never really know, especially because editing.. Acting.. Etc.)
the immaturity level of this girl. He just simply told her what happened and she just attacked him...HE DIDNT EVEN ACCUSE HER. HE JUST SAID WHAT HIS EX SAID JUST MADE HIM UNCOMFORTABLE. I like how Victoria didn't even "defend" or calmly explain herself, she just assumed and walked away and have HIM comfort her, like usual.
I have to agree. He has made dumb moves and taking her to top 3 was the dumbest of all. Little Pete spoke there. But he did look for a normal conversation and handled it the best he could. Any normal girl would have had a decent back&forth with him.
I genuinely feel like he thinks he’s in love with her, like he’s so willing to give her so many chances and I feel like if it was just someone he kind of liked he’d let her go without second thought.
She is a gaslighting narcissist who cannot admit she is wrong about anything. This is exactly how Narcissistic people behave when confronted with their terrible behavior. All of this is smoke and mirrors to deflect from having to explain their horrible behavior. She knows she did what his friend said but cant admit it to him so she turns everything around on him. Exactly like my ex when I called him out on his cheating ways, he would say "Well you could have been going out to eat with other guys while I was at work" um, what? That's your defense for being caught cheating? lol
debbielee718 Sydney is my cousin , she’s incredibly sweet and she’s literally being bullied unmercifully by people like you. Luckily she comes from a strong family and has a backbone unlike the lot of you. Comments like this are reckless & you need to stop 🛑 while you’re ahead! 🔥🐲🔥
High Priestess Angelique Your cousin went on national television and made herself look like a damn fool. Very pretty girl but was 100% messy on the show period. That’s her own fault. She should’ve did better.
I wonder if she gets with married men because she genuinely doesn’t think she deserves better- a normal relationship. That’s what I got from her “why are you so willing to stay?” She even admitted the other episode that “she” was the only one that could mess the second date up. She sabotages herself.
Or she is afraid of commitment. Whit married men she doesnt have to worry about that cause they are already in a relationship and she doesnt have to commit to them.... I have empathy in that matter.. maybe she needs therapy or time for herself. I dont agree with going to a show like the bachelor knowing that the show is about finding a fiance. Clearly she is not ready for that. Thats why i think, her intentions were other, maybe fame or exposure more followers..who knows? I think she thought her past wont come and bite her and it did. Still i think he is sexual attracted to her he will ignore the signs and he will keep her at least until the fantasy suite date.
PurpleRose7777 I did say she may need therapy. But since I’m not a professional I can not make a diagnosis. I absolutely don’t agree with her ways. I just explained that women with commitment problems tend to search those kind of relationships. I find her personality awful but the men she was involved with are as guilty as she is
There’s something seriously shady about her. So sad to see such insecurities and defensiveness in a person. (Also irritating time watch, couldn’t finishing the clip)
This is so sad. This is what happens when both people just blindly follow their lustrous desires thinking that it’s true love. This is not love, or at least I really hope it isn’t. It’s so dysfunctional already!
@@bradcarpenter1881 Maybe he has a deep-rooted desire to be mistreated. Live the extreme highs and lows of her mental state and then live in quiet desperation. I do not wish that for him! Didn't he say he wanted someone who wants him as much as he wants them?
She gives me the impression that she has gone through a lot of trauma and it still effects her. She gets quickly defensive and she is allowing her guard and defensiveness to ruin her relationships. I don’t think she is ready for a relationship and she needs to work on herself. She can’t keep allowing her trauma to effect her this way.
“Excuse you what”....really? So rude. She was clearly rude during this whole conversation. I can’t believe that he is fighting for this relationship. Why would you want that in your life. She will never change. Already showing her true colors.
At this point I can't even be mad at Victoria F anymore. Peter's the idiot in this scenario. She is the definition of a RED FLAG and yet he still wants her crazy. Ugh!!!
She's doesn't know how to communicate her feelings well and she always keeps her guard up. To find love and be open to it, you have to keep your walls down and be open, you can't have an honest relationship then Victoria F. annoys tf out of me.
An innocent person wouldn't deflect and use tears to say she isn't guilty. Notice how she never said, "That's no true. I would never do that." Instead she touched her hair a tell for a lie and yells at him before crying and saying she gives up.
No matter how bad you fell in love for someone, you can't not see so many red flags that Victoria giving him .unless if he's waiting for the fantasy suite for revenge then dump her.
I know absolutely nothing about this show but ended up here after clicking some link and I'll tell you this... I watched exactly 60 seconds of this video to know who this girl actually is and confirm it at 1:30. Yes, she's "hot" but the way she immediately gets defensive and turns herself into a victim and is already threatening to quit... this girl is out to scam some publicity for herself and it's not about a relationship. She is clearly a narcissist and some men get blinded by someone's looks to fall for this crap. Then, at 2:10... that exchange, dude, RUN. If it wasn't a chance for her to be on TV, she wouldn't give two craps about this guy. Oh, then at 3:00, this dude falls right into her trap is cowering.
“really that’s funny.k” uff now im heated. he clearly is into her for the looks because boy she is literally straight up DISRESPECTING YOU AND YOU DONT SEE IT
she’s the one that attacked him and yet he’s the one hugging her and apologizing at the end. true manipulation
PurpleRose7777 haha that too!
I think he had a strange upbringing to even believe her🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Juliétte what was her upbringing? I’m just curious
All cheaters try and to act like a victim
Ella Greer this has been her MO literally every single episode, like EVERY SINGLE ONE
She is the definition of red flags and gaslighting, just send her home! So insane how he is keeping her
She’s bipolar.
Cus hes just want to sleep with her!!!
@@ThatGmoney yup shes bipolar ..
gaslighting! Girl you nailed it!
Worse than the Hannah B - Luke P situation.
Honest to God, this is just an abusive, toxic relationship. Can't even totally blame him for falling for that, anybody who's been in a toxic relationship knows. Really hope he wakes up though and realizes.
totally agree with you!!
Supercookie agree with you I hope he send her home, she is so annoying. I cant stand her face.
I'm sure he knows. She's hot, and wants to keep her.
@@jenng1770 There is nothing "hot" about her. "Repulsive" is a more appropriate word.
Yeah it's amazing but it kills u
She literally broke up with him like 5 times in this conversation alone. Can he not see that?
Thank you. Someone said it finally
Haha she's been breaking up with him the entire show
she’s gave him so many reasons to leave her, yet he’s still so drawn to her
goldenxbaby because he wants to sleep with her then dump her
Carlita Hodges maybe he is going to get revenge that way, don’t know anymore.
goldenxbaby he will lose Madison for sure
He just wants to take her for a fantasy sweet date at this point. Where he probably messes his chances up with Madison. So annoying
She is gone after the overnight dates, they are both using eachother lol
She won’t ever be in a marriage that lasts at the rate she’s going.
I'd argue that no marriage lasts with her around...
Kat Perse you know that’s right
Raegan Sheng nope most people who are bipolar like Victoria if she’s able to get help and practice being mindful will she succeed. I even mistaken her condition for narcissist, but the crying, the constant seeking for attention, impulsive “cheating” and highs of mania... damn!
G Money amen to that! 👏
She's not marriage material to begin with. She has a lot to learn . Very immature and petty and annoying!!!
She literally crys her way out of everything
yes Right 😥
@ Sydney, and he literally, loves it....makes no sense, and then I think about the girls he let go...he is determined to make this girl love him....is he related to Colton????
crocodile tears
Sydney O and now we know why he allowed it.
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I feel like she’s gaslighting the heck out of him! It’s sickening how toxic this is yet she still ends up with a rose...
The show wants the drama.
Alyna oh my God that's exactly what I said!!
She didn't even deny what Marissa said, she immediately just went on a rant... 😏🤦🏼♀️ she's trouble
Tenisha Botha she literally said she never broke any relationship up? Did you not hear her right after he told her ??
if she were actually innocent, her natural response would have been complete confusion as to what Merissa meant and she would have asked more than 1-2 questions about it. Oh yeah... and she wouldnt immediately try to turn it all around onto HIM.
@@mica9852 you're pretty gullible me thinks
_”This is liiike...!! I am liike! I am liiike...! I am like, just disgusted right noaaww...”_
She wasn't even surprised
Is she drunk? Y is she talking like she is in a mean girls movie.
centigradz cuz she is a mean girl
Juliétte - in the worse way🙄
centigradz she watched too much The Kardashians
centigradz yes
They’re always drunk
Funny thing is that she's not even really denying what he's accusing her of, lol. The fact the she's made it this far is pathetic. This dude must be blind because everything about her screams red flags with blaring loud sirens.
sunshine11931 or bachelor producers pushing him, cant tell , now I am confused. Are they threatening him ?
It's called the fantasy suite.
@@julietteSoul No, I think he's just dumb.
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Exactly
if someone asks me what gaslighting is i’ll just show them this video
What is gaslighting?
😂😂😂😂😂 right @bella?
mark rainey pouring gas on a fire!
Bella Grinbergs My thoughts exactly 😩
@@rainrain7936 Gaslighting is a term used when describing one of the traits of someone with a narcissistic personality dlsorder. They use manipulation to project you as the problem. They feed off of that supply. Very toxic. I just divorced one.
She’s being so defensive and disrespectful towards him, that’s a big red flag. He’s needs to send her home ASAP!🤷♀️👎🏼
Binti, she should've BEEN gone,girl !!!
Binti Bibi exactly and then he ends up keeping her good lord 🙈
My man is taking a tour in a red flag factory
This made me crack up
Does she let him finish talking. She goes around and around. She’s a narcissist......run away, run away!!
Krishna Lawrence I read that she was a bully in school. But she’s a clever one
Most of the time a super defensive attitude means GUILTY.
So true!
He shouldnt even be apologizing... waste. of. time.
Lindsay W perioddddd
"Why are you so willing to stay" you'd almost think this is the Bachelorette, not the Bachelor
I’m using Victoria as the topic of my psychology assignment...
Angellica YES!
This is a Real Deal example of a Narcissist at work, just one of their many many horrific tricks they use to Destroy people
Lmaooo God bless you
shes not even listening to him
Victoria F is clearly hiding a tank load of bad secret. She very good at manipulating and get things off tangent. God, she is one of the most controversial contestant. First with the shirt slogan incidence, and now this .
deflection-- indicative of a liar
It just amazes me how early in the show she was portrayed as the quiet, shy, "I've been so sheltered" type of girl. The truth of the matter is she has been in more SH*T than we know and definitely likes to keep SH*T stirred up. Get her gone please. IMMATURE and deceptive!!
I’m still trying to figure out if she actually has a psychological issue or intentionally acts like a “pretty girl panicked” mean girl 🤷♀️
Nineveh Zoudo either BPD or narcissist..not diagnosing, but she is definitely displaying some of the tendencies..gaslighting, manipulation, acting crazy and playing the victim, dishonesty, the need to create drama, etc.
@@nbencier
Atleast you're not set on saying she's bipolar and spreading misinformation about bipolar disorder in the comments...
I just can't with this "G Money" person.
(yes I agree, she's showing tendencies of BPD and NPD, but you can never really know, especially because editing.. Acting.. Etc.)
This is literally worst than hannah B keeping luke P
I almost forgot about that!
Worse than HB keeping Jed. Both were horrible choices.
LUKE P WAS SM BETTER
the immaturity level of this girl. He just simply told her what happened and she just attacked him...HE DIDNT EVEN ACCUSE HER. HE JUST SAID WHAT HIS EX SAID JUST MADE HIM UNCOMFORTABLE. I like how Victoria didn't even "defend" or calmly explain herself, she just assumed and walked away and have HIM comfort her, like usual.
I CANT STAND HER SHE IS IMMATURE
Jackie Flores - I wonder if all of bachelor nation hates her. I know I do.
Exactly
I as well. She needs to go
Aaaannnddd you’re supposed to meeeeettt myyyuuuhhhh fammmmuullllyyyy tonight.
Rosie Dust this is the best comment 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
She's avoiding his questions, so it is probably true...
classic case
all joking aside, he’s genuinely a good guy and truly deserves a mature girl who can have a level headed conversation with him and she ain’t it
I have to agree. He has made dumb moves and taking her to top 3 was the dumbest of all. Little Pete spoke there. But he did look for a normal conversation and handled it the best he could. Any normal girl would have had a decent back&forth with him.
he has to want that for himself
I don’t even think he wants that 🤦🏾♀️
Well he sent Kelly home
Yeah he has sent home all the mature girls who would be good for him minus Madison but we'll see what happens next week with her
PROFESSIONAL MANIPULATOR. WOW
She's been manipulating him from day 1 and he is really oblivious to it.
Princessjasgol well, she didn’t get paid anything to manipulate that’s for sure.
I’d hire her. She’s good
And after all that he still kept her around just to “Fantasy Suite” her up 🤮
Maybe so but who'd want a man that would want THAT?!? Gross! He just doesn't get it!
I agree completely. I obviously can see she's not answering so either the producers made him keep her or it's the fantasy suite.
He wanted to play with her tatas soo bad.
I genuinely feel like he thinks he’s in love with her, like he’s so willing to give her so many chances and I feel like if it was just someone he kind of liked he’d let her go without second thought.
Tee23 If he is really in love then he is just as messed up as she is🤦🏻♀️sad situation
Juliétte Yeah he hasn’t exactly been one of our better Bachelors that’s for sure.
She is a gaslighting narcissist who cannot admit she is wrong about anything. This is exactly how Narcissistic people behave when confronted with their terrible behavior. All of this is smoke and mirrors to deflect from having to explain their horrible behavior. She knows she did what his friend said but cant admit it to him so she turns everything around on him. Exactly like my ex when I called him out on his cheating ways, he would say "Well you could have been going out to eat with other guys while I was at work" um, what? That's your defense for being caught cheating? lol
Dude... run
Haha! I literally kept telling the TV (him lol) THS IS YOUR FUTURE IF YOU STICK WITH THIS CRAZY CHICK!! WAKE UP!!
the way she starts crying and stops crying and jumps to conclusions like I feel bad for him, she’s emotionally exhausting him
She makes Sydney look good.
debbielee718 Sydney is my cousin , she’s incredibly sweet and she’s literally being bullied unmercifully by people like you. Luckily she comes from a strong family and has a backbone unlike the lot of you. Comments like this are reckless & you need to stop 🛑 while you’re ahead!
🔥🐲🔥
Sorry. Popularity and fame comes with a price!
High Priestess Angelique Your cousin went on national television and made herself look like a damn fool. Very pretty girl but was 100% messy on the show period. That’s her own fault. She should’ve did better.
Your cousin was VERY SWEET at women tell all.
You can tell by her reaction she’s guilty
when she said “excuse you what” definitely just shows how entitled she thinks she is
I don't even feel like I'm watching the Bachelor anymore, this season is a mess
Same here......it's been off the rails for a while now.
I feel the same. I think 90% of this season is staged.
Their relationship is so toxic
I wonder if she gets with married men because she genuinely doesn’t think she deserves better- a normal relationship. That’s what I got from her “why are you so willing to stay?” She even admitted the other episode that “she” was the only one that could mess the second date up. She sabotages herself.
Or she is afraid of commitment. Whit married men she doesnt have to worry about that cause they are already in a relationship and she doesnt have to commit to them.... I have empathy in that matter.. maybe she needs therapy or time for herself. I dont agree with going to a show like the bachelor knowing that the show is about finding a fiance. Clearly she is not ready for that. Thats why i think, her intentions were other, maybe fame or exposure more followers..who knows? I think she thought her past wont come and bite her and it did. Still i think he is sexual attracted to her he will ignore the signs and he will keep her at least until the fantasy suite date.
PurpleRose7777 I did say she may need therapy. But since I’m not a professional I can not make a diagnosis. I absolutely don’t agree with her ways. I just explained that women with commitment problems tend to search those kind of relationships. I find her personality awful but the men she was involved with are as guilty as she is
He always has to apologize because “she gets offended”
She sounds like she doesn't even want the relationship
She wants to be bachelorette
She doesn't necessarily. She just wants any one guy. Doesn't understand loyalty and prioritizing one specific guy.
@@marlynriedel847 Not with the way she's acting!
Do you remember when “Luke” was the most crazy/manipulative?
The show started off making us think Hannah Ann was the villian but it was Victoria F all along
Bruh she doesn’t deny it, doesn’t let him get a word in, and runs away.. the f???
so.... that’s not a no to breaking up all those relationships?
She’s just trying to distract from the truth by throwing a fit.
RED FLAGS EVERYWHERE SHE IS SO TOXIC
Relationships are work HARD work and a lot of love and she’s not willing to do either.
shes so unstable...how do you see her as a wife....
Is it just me or does she just sound really drunk the way she speaks. I have migraines just listening to her.
I could just picture her family looking out their window listening to their entire conversation and thinking "What the hell is going on" lol
Can you show more emotions than that... she’s gonna cry and get a rose... this girl just starts yelling for no reason and gets a rose
I "literally" just can't listen to them "literally" saying "literally" every literal second
T Murray - Don’t forget her billion “likes”. 🙄😒
@@jayaitch88 Like, I literally like just like can't
There’s something seriously shady about her. So sad to see such insecurities and defensiveness in a person. (Also irritating time watch, couldn’t finishing the clip)
She wasn't right after they ran into her ex on the date 😂😂😂
This is so sad. This is what happens when both people just blindly follow their lustrous desires thinking that it’s true love. This is not love, or at least I really hope it isn’t. It’s so dysfunctional already!
He really went through all this hell because he wanted to play with her tatas THAT bad.
She reminds me of the girls i went to middle school with. Making a situation that is so small, so much more dramatic than it actually is.
🤣🤣
Wow Victoria is so good at this manipulation thing. She could teach a class 😯
He sees a red flag and like a bull, runs right tward it.
hahaha! True!
Is this the first time that a Bachelor or Bachelorette hasn’t met a family during the Hometown Dates??
Justin M. I think so!
On Jason Meznicks season Melissa's family refused to meet him but they still ended up getting engaged (briefly)
@Katie so this is the first time that the bachelor chose not to meet the family?
"I'm so ready to stop pretending I like you" I bet that's what she was thinking 😂
He clearly likes crazy girls lmao
Woah.....She legit turned everything on him and made HIM feel like HE did something wrong!!! She is TOXIC!!!
Being emotional is one thing, but being a bad person and hiding it behind tears is no excuse
Let me tell you , he is a really nice guy . Other guys will have been like “bye bye drama “
Jahaira Calle he’s a codependent that is for sure.
@@ThatGmoney
Yeeees, diagnose moooore
@@bradcarpenter1881 Maybe he has a deep-rooted desire to be mistreated. Live the extreme highs and lows of her mental state and then live in quiet desperation. I do not wish that for him!
Didn't he say he wanted someone who wants him as much as he wants them?
They both talk like they’re 12, what a beautiful couple
She gives me the impression that she has gone through a lot of trauma and it still effects her. She gets quickly defensive and she is allowing her guard and defensiveness to ruin her relationships. I don’t think she is ready for a relationship and she needs to work on herself. She can’t keep allowing her trauma to effect her this way.
That is true too, she's talked about that to him as well.
Honestly HE handled himself sooo well.
Yeh, somethings not right with this chick. Better leave her alone
Me : behind the screen
“Send her homeeeee”
“Excuse you what”....really? So rude. She was clearly rude during this whole conversation. I can’t believe that he is fighting for this relationship. Why would you want that in your life. She will never change. Already showing her true colors.
At this point I can't even be mad at Victoria F anymore. Peter's the idiot in this scenario. She is the definition of a RED FLAG and yet he still wants her crazy. Ugh!!!
She seems narcissistic and everything is about her opinion and her day. She is defensive and can’t deal with stuff
She's actually insane. -_-
She's doesn't know how to communicate her feelings well and she always keeps her guard up. To find love and be open to it, you have to keep your walls down and be open, you can't have an honest relationship then Victoria F. annoys tf out of me.
Always remember: if someone is NOT answering your question, its true what they say about them!!
Such a bad choice. She goes very quickly from I’m done to crying to twist this up into his fault. She’s wacko🤪
She is literally the definition of the word manipulative 🙄
Every other word is "like" "literally" and that Kardashian, breathy accent - please, PLEASE, don't have kids - either of you!!
She needs some help man she clearly has some issues
An innocent person wouldn't deflect and use tears to say she isn't guilty. Notice how she never said, "That's no true. I would never do that." Instead she touched her hair a tell for a lie and yells at him before crying and saying she gives up.
No matter how bad you fell in love for someone, you can't not see so many red flags that Victoria giving him .unless if he's waiting for the fantasy suite for revenge then dump her.
my goodness she is such a CHILD!!!! holy moly grow up before coming on a show she cannot just talk a situation through????
She’s a kid dude lol he should of kept the attorney but that’s what he gets she’s immature
PurpleRose7777 that fits best haha very true
She is one of the MOST manipulative people who’ve been on the bachelor franchise 😬
Read it from somewhere that she looks like Nemo
Netnapha Win more like dori
Netnapha Win it is all over the place now.
She does!!!!
This girl is incredible at spinning something that should be about her to being about someone else. What a great manipulator
He’s going to take her to the Fantasy Suite and ditch her in the end. What a waste of time!!!
100% agree
Agree!
Peters face when she got up and said (I cant do this anymore) hahahahahqhq hes like is this real life!?!??!
I know absolutely nothing about this show but ended up here after clicking some link and I'll tell you this... I watched exactly 60 seconds of this video to know who this girl actually is and confirm it at 1:30. Yes, she's "hot" but the way she immediately gets defensive and turns herself into a victim and is already threatening to quit... this girl is out to scam some publicity for herself and it's not about a relationship. She is clearly a narcissist and some men get blinded by someone's looks to fall for this crap. Then, at 2:10... that exchange, dude, RUN. If it wasn't a chance for her to be on TV, she wouldn't give two craps about this guy. Oh, then at 3:00, this dude falls right into her trap is cowering.
This is so unhealthy/toxic I want to shaaaake hiiiiiiim awakeeee
She'll go bye bye after the Fantasy Suite hands down. He just wants to smash and pass
This looks like a toxic relationship🙄 and I'm pretty sure it's never gonna work out even if they ended up together!
@PurpleRose7777 Exactly! This is the worst bachelor season ever😣
“really that’s funny.k” uff now im heated. he clearly is into her for the looks because boy she is literally straight up DISRESPECTING YOU AND YOU DONT SEE IT
This is totally how an innocent person reacts, thanks for clearing my doubts and easing my mind Fictoria
Don't take this drama into a marriage! She is going to make you miserable!
She is clearly a narcissist and gaslighted him. Hard to watch him apologize for catching her in her lies.
🙄uugh i just can’t stand this Girl she is a drama plus manipulative she can’t never talk and finish conversation without running or crying
She is a toxic person in relationship.
“EXCUSE YOU WHAT?”
literally stop HAHA i gagged
She's guilty AF. Crazy....run bro