I play it this way: If I finish with all the exact discs I started with that is a perfect score. 1000. Never done it. I go down 100 for every disc I lose. I get extra credit, 25 pts, for every disc I find. Ah, but there is a catch. If there is a name/number on found disc then I get zero points since it can and will be returned. The sub-rule to that is person says I can keep it then I get the 25 points. This just happened last week. Finished 825 because person sent me text back: "Oh my word, I gave that disc away almost two years ago. You can keep it." I lost two discs but gained one thus the score.
As someone who has been playing disc golf for about 2 years now, coming from a ball golf background, and loving this game, I think the PDGA rating system may be its weakest link for new players. First I hate that the formula is a secret. I am a huge fan of transparency in all things that don't involve the military or aliens lifeforms. While I admit the USGA handicap system for golf is not perfect, I know exactly how it works and exactly what it means. How that applies to me is that when I play someone I know exactly how many stokes they have to give me based on the course we are playing and the tee boxes we are using. That makes the game so much more fun and is very helpful if you throw together a group of golfers for a day. Disc golf doesn't have this feature. Having never played in a sanctioned event I have no rating nor do the 5 or 6 people I play with. So how many shots should they give me in a round. That's all I want to know.
I'm currently at 605 after one event, but, if I calculate right, after my second event last weekend I should be jumping to 650-660-ish. I'm playing again tomorrow, and hope I can deliver a good two rounds with fewer bad shot/disc choices, silly mistakes, and some more consistency based on what some higher rated players have taught me.
I've always wanted an explanation of this Danny, so glad to have you explain it. PS.....Good move on mustache REMOVAL.... though it had its marketing purposes. Love your stuff dude!
Fumbled my way to 851 from a lowly 768 round rating from my first tournament. My first tournament back from Covid was rough, but I am still trying to get to 870 as my next goal. I just want to play above rating each round at each event. I love your explanation given that player ratings from rounds averaged equates to simple math but the way those round ratings are established are somewhat "magical."
I’ve had rounds that I felt I got shafted on and and some rounds I was surprised with the rating. Overall I don’t quite understand the formula to find it all together, but I love the fact there’s a rating system to begin with.
I've not played any events but play a course with temporary baskets and have beaten everyone I have played and always score under par, and I've been playing for around 3 months, but have a long frisbee history and great throwing. I have been asked my rating or to guess it as I have signed up to my first two events. By what Danny says I would guess I'm between 930 and 950. But this rating system seems so convoluted and abstract, I'm not sure it's even worth thinking about, is it? I don't have a pdga thing anyway and don't really want to sign up to that and pay money. I guess if I stick with the sport maybe it's unavoidable. All very confusing that's for sure
I have played about 2 years and i'm 13 years old. My rating is currently 944 but i'm slowly improving. SOOO my goal is To get somewhere around 980 rating.
@@ethanbates7734 yeah i know i live in finland so we use metrix. My pdga is very bad. And i have not been playing pdga events in a long time so i have gotten better
I've been playing in a sacntione summer league at my local course for the past 5-6 weeks with the disc golf club I belong to. Even tho I dont have a pdga#, is there still a way I'd be able to see what my rounds were rated at? Or do ratings pertain to just those with a pdga#?
Great video still like telling everyone I'm a 13 handicap it's easier for me to tell guys I play with I shoot between 10-13 strokes over par ... For me though
Thanks, Danny! I've wondered how they calculate those. I'm going to be in a Trilogy Challenge tomorrow, so I'll have to see what my rating would be on that course. (how low can they go?)
Theoretically 0, but most absolute beginner level probably shoot 600-700. 800 rated round isn’t particularly hard to achieve for most players. I’m in the don’t play as well in tournaments crowd. I haven’t played many, but I struggle with putting in tournaments. That and every tournament I play seems to be windy or wet. Gotta love Kansas DG.
Probably 895 to 910 for mine because my backhand is slow but my forehands can range anywhere from 200 too 300 feet. My mid range and putter strokes are decent but not also needs improvement. This is all due to me not having a wide variety of disc to choose and really only throwing my most comfortable discs out of the bag, stead of using all of them.
I've been playing on and off for a few years now, but never played a tourney or got a pdga number. But, with the amount of times I shank a drive into a tree on a league day that I miss on a practice round, I'm gonna put myself at probably a -1060 rating.
I'm going to be playing in my first tournament soon but I'm not a member of the PDGA. Will my round rating be saved if I get a membership in the future? Or will that round just not ever be credited to me since I didn't have a membership at that time?
Combining multiple rounds into 1 pool allows for more data points to be used and thus could be more accurate in calculating ratings. However, conditions change throughout a day, in round 2 everyone has already played a round that day so fatigue could set in or players who had a rough first round could correct their mistakes in the second round. It all depends. IMO each round on each layout should be treated as a separate pool regardless of the number of propagators within each pool.
Just become a tournament director and hold leagues at your local course. Very easy to do , pass an open book test, then register your league and run it. Easy way to get points and rated rounds.
Well my average 18 hole round is +4. My putting sucks, but my long throws are strait and long. Best round i made so far, is a round with 6 birdies ending in a total of -2 on the course. Been playing for 4 months only. Think my rating would be over 900. I mainly use forehand and with that i can make rolls with my Ape, that goes about 100 meters.
Thanks for the video, Danny! Complex and secret! Question: Are ratings only valid comparisons within a group/category? For instance a 1000 rated man, a 1000 rated junior and a 1000 rated woman... are not equal disc golfers, right? I imagine a 1000 rated man would likely shoot a lower score than a 1000 rated woman if they played side by side in an FPO tournament (mostly due to physical differences, men throwing further).
No, ratings cross divisions. So a 980 rated woman is about as good as a 980 rated man. There hasn’t been a 1000 rated woman yet, but women do shoot 1000 rated rounds. Paige Pierce is getting pretty close.
My distance is improving but my putting is not. Started two years ago, first year was playing maybe once a week. This year I've played about 5/7 days of the week. My distance and control on my drive is probably around what a 980 player does but my putting is probably around an 880 LOL.
It would have been good to include some information about the women as well ! It's quite different since there is no women who ever had a 1000 overall rating yet.
@@neilwaldock6272 That is exactly what I meant ! I know some women have over 1000 rated rounds (sorry, english isn't my first language). I just think it would be interested in the video to hear more about the ratings of women to have a better idea of what it represents, because it doesn't represent the same as for men ... Especially because it would be great to see more women in the sport. Saying that a 900-930 rating would be the average player doesn't apply for the women, and could discourage some !
Mr Squirrel not really. Your best bet would be to look at past tournament results at particular courses. Even then, as said in the video, the layout or weather could be different and affect a round rating. Most courses I’ve played generally score around 900 or so if your a par player.
Why are they still only calculated once a month though? Especially with league rounds now being rated. I am about to play in MA3 (recreation) with a guy rated 870, but in his last league rounds this month he's scored 4 rounds 905-930. Ratings update the day after the tournament :/
But if he has a rating of 870 and its over 50 rounds 4 rounds over wont push him up to intermediate.... And the only way to get a rating over is to play over. And thats how you will win your class... I just got 904 and have one 980 round and some 950-960. But Im with you that its stupid they dont update next day but it wont affect much more then new players who doesnt have a stable rating.
Its feasible to update them every day, but there isnt a need. players typically have a standard deviation between 25 and 40 points. so most players would generally have a range of 50 to 80 points between two rounds in an event. But over the long run the rating will be more predictive of a players skill. Until you have 8+ rounds on a rating its difficult to guess a players skill.
Long story short, he will be in MA3 until he plays 930-950 consistently. So the only thing you can do is practice! Cant really complain on a 870 rated guy in a 850-900 rating class 😅 Consistency is the biggest difference between us in MA3 and open, not really the length 😋
I have been playing casually with friends for 5+ years but have never played sanctioned or even league rounds. I'd really like to play my first tournament and think I will register intermediate. My guess is I would rate low 900's
You can look up a tournament on that course and try to find a few rounds rated as close to 1000 as you can, average those scores to give you an idea of what a 1000-rated round is, and for every stroke you shoot over that score, take 10 points off your rating.
Courses do not have ratings. Ratings are solely generated by the players competing in a round at the same time. There are too many ever-changing variables to give a course a rating: basket positions being moved, trees being removed, foliage being thick/thin, weather, etc. You can, however, look up an old tournament at that course to get a general idea for what your rating is likely to be.
@@arcticowl2401 Just based off what he said in the video. I'm pretty competitive with anyone I've played during random doubles matches in the area. The local pros (960-980 PDGA ranked) usually beat me by a few strokes. I can throw all the same backhand shots they can and get 90-95% of their distance. I can't throw a roller consistently though. My sidearm (like James Conrad I avoid like the plague) is probably around 60% of what those dudes throw but with 50% of the consistency.
@@sphdg I literally said I'll be playing tournaments next year if all goes well in my original post. And the video creator literally said "Let us know down in the comments what rating you think you would have if you don't have one yet."
I’m 14 and I play golf competitively for 6 years, I found disc golf about 10 months ago and am thinking about playing a tournament, I would probably be around 900-910 I would think
The ratings are bullshit. My example, 5 1000 rated pros Cale, Uli, Paul Oman, Jay Reading and Dan Hastings played a tournament and the best round was Cale at 65 rated 1033. A couple years later same tournament i shot a 59 rated 1046. So if i did it while they were there its 1080. It shouldnt matter whos playing. They pros played the course before so u know what they shoot
This sounds like the most complicated system ever. Why not go with a system similar to ball golf? Strokes above par factoring in basic course difficulty.
The rating system kind of needs an overhaul now that there's so many extremely skilled players. 1000-rated used to mean you basically had your name on a disc and now I feel like 1000-rated is every other person I run into on the course.
Ratings are every increasing too. Go calculate the average propagator round rating and average propagator player rating for every round. You will find that the avg prop player rating will be 2-5 points lower than the average round rating for the propagators
@@kevinmosteller7279 "so it makes sense that ratings go up" - I said that mate. I have absolutely no problem with ratings going up as long as players understand where they stack up amongst current top player groups. Players who are below 1000 rated should not be playing in the top pro tour open events, plain and simple. They should have to qualify to get in to those events.
Just stop! Ratings are just stupid! Do pro ball golfers get a rating every time they play a round? Ahhh no!! This is just stupid!! Disc golf needs to stop this BS! Rollers and ratings..... throw them out the door disc golf world!!!!
They get ranked for every tournament they play in, yes. PGA has a ranking system very similar to the PDGA. It looks at every event you played in for the last two years, how hard those events were, and where you finished in relation to your competition. That ranking determines what events you get invited to, etc. They are almost identical. Soooo, maybe get your facts straight. Either way DG is not golf, nor should it try to be.
What rating would you give someone who's goal is just to finish with the same number of disc they started with?
Lol
I play it this way: If I finish with all the exact discs I started with that is a perfect score. 1000. Never done it. I go down 100 for every disc I lose. I get extra credit, 25 pts, for every disc I find. Ah, but there is a catch. If there is a name/number on found disc then I get zero points since it can and will be returned. The sub-rule to that is person says I can keep it then I get the 25 points. This just happened last week. Finished 825 because person sent me text back: "Oh my word, I gave that disc away almost two years ago. You can keep it." I lost two discs but gained one thus the score.
I just refuse to lose discs. I hunt them like my life depends on it, including coming back with tools. No disc left behind.
That's impossible!
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As someone who has been playing disc golf for about 2 years now, coming from a ball golf background, and loving this game, I think the PDGA rating system may be its weakest link for new players. First I hate that the formula is a secret. I am a huge fan of transparency in all things that don't involve the military or aliens lifeforms. While I admit the USGA handicap system for golf is not perfect, I know exactly how it works and exactly what it means. How that applies to me is that when I play someone I know exactly how many stokes they have to give me based on the course we are playing and the tee boxes we are using. That makes the game so much more fun and is very helpful if you throw together a group of golfers for a day. Disc golf doesn't have this feature. Having never played in a sanctioned event I have no rating nor do the 5 or 6 people I play with. So how many shots should they give me in a round. That's all I want to know.
If you play the same handful of courses you can figure out your own handicaps by averaging your scores vs par.
Why are you not for transparency with aliens? So we can kill other humans better with alien technology and others can't do the same?
That's crazy. I can't even remember my score on the last hole.
I'm currently at 605 after one event, but, if I calculate right, after my second event last weekend I should be jumping to 650-660-ish. I'm playing again tomorrow, and hope I can deliver a good two rounds with fewer bad shot/disc choices, silly mistakes, and some more consistency based on what some higher rated players have taught me.
Great explanation, Danny. I wondered how those were calculated. No number for me yet but I think I'll get a pdga number next year!
I'm at 863 my goal before the end of the year is 890. Working 💪 towards it bit by bit
When people ask my rating I say 210. I average about bogey and have a great time at it!
Probably 750 at the absolute worst ;)
I've always wanted an explanation of this Danny, so glad to have you explain it.
PS.....Good move on mustache REMOVAL.... though it had its marketing purposes.
Love your stuff dude!
Fumbled my way to 851 from a lowly 768 round rating from my first tournament. My first tournament back from Covid was rough, but I am still trying to get to 870 as my next goal. I just want to play above rating each round at each event. I love your explanation given that player ratings from rounds averaged equates to simple math but the way those round ratings are established are somewhat "magical."
I’ve had rounds that I felt I got shafted on and and some rounds I was surprised with the rating. Overall I don’t quite understand the formula to find it all together, but I love the fact there’s a rating system to begin with.
I stared playing 2 years ago and was 783 rated my first year. I am currently sitting at 877 and shooting for 905 by the end of this season!
Thank you DD. After 1 1/2 years of being a watching (not playing) fan, I sort of understand ratings now. :)
Don't play???? How can you watch and not wanna go play lol
I don't have one but i think I'm around a 1100-1125 nothing too flashy
BRUH!!! That’s better than Paul mcbeth and Ricky wysocki(I’m assuming your joking)
@@calebsmith113 who?
@@calebsmith113 hes not joking, hes trolling
Haha
Yeah there’s no way your that good
Currently 936, should have a hefty jump on the next ratings update from our sanctioned league rounds kicking in :D
Great video, answers some questions that I was too lazy to look up ! Thanks
Thank you. Very clear explanation
I've not played any events but play a course with temporary baskets and have beaten everyone I have played and always score under par, and I've been playing for around 3 months, but have a long frisbee history and great throwing. I have been asked my rating or to guess it as I have signed up to my first two events. By what Danny says I would guess I'm between 930 and 950. But this rating system seems so convoluted and abstract, I'm not sure it's even worth thinking about, is it? I don't have a pdga thing anyway and don't really want to sign up to that and pay money. I guess if I stick with the sport maybe it's unavoidable. All very confusing that's for sure
I’m probably around 830 I’ve played a few rounds over the course of a couple months but really only for like 6 weeks I’ve been grinding so yeah
I have played about 2 years and i'm 13 years old. My rating is currently 944 but i'm slowly improving. SOOO my goal is To get somewhere around 980 rating.
Pdga has you at 897 and your highest round is 910
@@ethanbates7734 yeah i know i live in finland so we use metrix. My pdga is very bad. And i have not been playing pdga events in a long time so i have gotten better
@@ethanbates7734 and i always fail in pdga events idk why.
Niko granlund ahhhh I didn’t see that. All good brother
Keep on grinding. You’ll get there. May even surprise yourself someday and be 1000+ rated.
Based on the 2 sanctioned round I've played I'm a 769 rated player. Over the next year I'd like to consistently play 800+
Very well said.
Someone explain the 2.5 standard deviation thing to me like I’m a 5 year old. Does that mean if I have a really good round they don’t count it?
I've been playing in a sacntione summer league at my local course for the past 5-6 weeks with the disc golf club I belong to. Even tho I dont have a pdga#, is there still a way I'd be able to see what my rounds were rated at? Or do ratings pertain to just those with a pdga#?
Great video still like telling everyone I'm a 13 handicap it's easier for me to tell guys I play with I shoot between 10-13 strokes over par ... For me though
My goal is 1010 my current rating is 960, it feels like it's impossibly far away, but I also thought 950 was out of reach
So under 900 should be playing rec huh? I know scores can be a bit regional, can anyone tell me if this would be true in MI
Thanks, Danny! I've wondered how they calculate those. I'm going to be in a Trilogy Challenge tomorrow, so I'll have to see what my rating would be on that course. (how low can they go?)
Theoretically 0, but most absolute beginner level probably shoot 600-700. 800 rated round isn’t particularly hard to achieve for most players. I’m in the don’t play as well in tournaments crowd. I haven’t played many, but I struggle with putting in tournaments. That and every tournament I play seems to be windy or wet. Gotta love Kansas DG.
I shoot like +6 on a good day and +12 on a really bad day at dela in santa cruz . wonder what my rating is??
I play at the local course with one disc. I spend 85% of the time trying to find my disc after I throw it. Whats my score?
So what you’re saying is: don’t make it mandatory to have a
Got a pdga # now I need to figure out how to enter tournaments. Do you habe to be in a club?
so what is the lower pdga rating that you can get?
Crushed it Danny
what about pdga leagues ratings? is it about the same as an event ?
Probably 895 to 910 for mine because my backhand is slow but my forehands can range anywhere from 200 too 300 feet. My mid range and putter strokes are decent but not also needs improvement. This is all due to me not having a wide variety of disc to choose and really only throwing my most comfortable discs out of the bag, stead of using all of them.
I've been playing on and off for a few years now, but never played a tourney or got a pdga number. But, with the amount of times I shank a drive into a tree on a league day that I miss on a practice round, I'm gonna put myself at probably a -1060 rating.
I'm going to be playing in my first tournament soon but I'm not a member of the PDGA. Will my round rating be saved if I get a membership in the future? Or will that round just not ever be credited to me since I didn't have a membership at that time?
It won't be automatically included, but you can email the PDGA to get them to retroactively include it.
I'm not sure what it is but I'm probably like just below 900. Only been playing since April so I'm happy with that
Events with two rounds on the same layout will sometimes use both rounds in the same pool but other times they will be treated as different pools.
Combining multiple rounds into 1 pool allows for more data points to be used and thus could be more accurate in calculating ratings. However, conditions change throughout a day, in round 2 everyone has already played a round that day so fatigue could set in or players who had a rough first round could correct their mistakes in the second round. It all depends. IMO each round on each layout should be treated as a separate pool regardless of the number of propagators within each pool.
i'd actually like to just have an PDGA event in my area to get a rating. Started playing last year and now everything is on hold in BC Canada. :-(
Same.. started playing last year some days are great some are terrible lol
Just become a tournament director and hold leagues at your local course. Very easy to do , pass an open book test, then register your league and run it. Easy way to get points and rated rounds.
I’m currently 927. My goal would be to consistently be above 950+.
I need drawing pictures to understand this 😩❗️
Well my average 18 hole round is +4. My putting sucks, but my long throws are strait and long. Best round i made so far, is a round with 6 birdies ending in a total of -2 on the course. Been playing for 4 months only. Think my rating would be over 900. I mainly use forehand and with that i can make rolls with my Ape, that goes about 100 meters.
galerip, your probably around me or a little less. Mine 895 to 910
nice
2:45 that was me during the whole video, didn't understand one thing.
You should have started with building a score in a round and show how it works.
Thanks for the video, Danny! Complex and secret! Question: Are ratings only valid comparisons within a group/category? For instance a 1000 rated man, a 1000 rated junior and a 1000 rated woman... are not equal disc golfers, right? I imagine a 1000 rated man would likely shoot a lower score than a 1000 rated woman if they played side by side in an FPO tournament (mostly due to physical differences, men throwing further).
No, ratings cross divisions. So a 980 rated woman is about as good as a 980 rated man. There hasn’t been a 1000 rated woman yet, but women do shoot 1000 rated rounds. Paige Pierce is getting pretty close.
How the work, or how the are done?
My rating is over 9000 😆
My rating is 2 of those numbers.
What??! Over 9,000??!
My distance is improving but my putting is not. Started two years ago, first year was playing maybe once a week. This year I've played about 5/7 days of the week. My distance and control on my drive is probably around what a 980 player does but my putting is probably around an 880 LOL.
It would have been good to include some information about the women as well ! It's quite different since there is no women who ever had a 1000 overall rating yet.
There's been many 1000 rated rounds in FPO. Paige Pierce has them frequently. But no FPO competitor has ever been rated over 1000.
@@neilwaldock6272 That is exactly what I meant ! I know some women have over 1000 rated rounds (sorry, english isn't my first language). I just think it would be interested in the video to hear more about the ratings of women to have a better idea of what it represents, because it doesn't represent the same as for men ... Especially because it would be great to see more women in the sport. Saying that a 900-930 rating would be the average player doesn't apply for the women, and could discourage some !
Is there a rating estimator for playing non-sanctioned events?
Mr Squirrel not really. Your best bet would be to look at past tournament results at particular courses. Even then, as said in the video, the layout or weather could be different and affect a round rating. Most courses I’ve played generally score around 900 or so if your a par player.
Did my first course the other day. Shot 10 over the first 9 :D so yeah, probably 980ish
more like 800 haha wtf
Why are they still only calculated once a month though? Especially with league rounds now being rated. I am about to play in MA3 (recreation) with a guy rated 870, but in his last league rounds this month he's scored 4 rounds 905-930. Ratings update the day after the tournament :/
But if he has a rating of 870 and its over 50 rounds 4 rounds over wont push him up to intermediate.... And the only way to get a rating over is to play over. And thats how you will win your class...
I just got 904 and have one 980 round and some 950-960.
But Im with you that its stupid they dont update next day but it wont affect much more then new players who doesnt have a stable rating.
Its feasible to update them every day, but there isnt a need. players typically have a standard deviation between 25 and 40 points. so most players would generally have a range of 50 to 80 points between two rounds in an event. But over the long run the rating will be more predictive of a players skill. Until you have 8+ rounds on a rating its difficult to guess a players skill.
Long story short, he will be in MA3 until he plays 930-950 consistently. So the only thing you can do is practice! Cant really complain on a 870 rated guy in a 850-900 rating class 😅 Consistency is the biggest difference between us in MA3 and open, not really the length 😋
I have been playing casually with friends for 5+ years but have never played sanctioned or even league rounds. I'd really like to play my first tournament and think I will register intermediate. My guess is I would rate low 900's
I would start with rec
Do actual courses get ratings? Like if you score this over there it's worth about that?
You can look up a tournament on that course and try to find a few rounds rated as close to 1000 as you can, average those scores to give you an idea of what a 1000-rated round is, and for every stroke you shoot over that score, take 10 points off your rating.
Courses do not have ratings. Ratings are solely generated by the players competing in a round at the same time. There are too many ever-changing variables to give a course a rating: basket positions being moved, trees being removed, foliage being thick/thin, weather, etc. You can, however, look up an old tournament at that course to get a general idea for what your rating is likely to be.
Nobody said that there would be math.
Can you have a rated round not in a sanctioned tournament.
i think so in like a local league or club rounds
I think my rating would be 700🙃
Dang!! Mines 376
You guys no that’s not good right? I know you’re joking
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Doc Xen what is that supposed to mean??? You calling me stupid?
@@calebsmith113 was a joke but I'll delete it
I doubt I'd have a rating above 800, but we'll see when I play a tournament sometime
Hi
I'm probably around 930 if I had to guess. I'll be hitting up tournaments next year if all goes well
What ever your gues is for your rating subtract 45 points
How did you get that guess? Honest question ... how would you have any idea what a 930 round even feels like ?
@@arcticowl2401 Just based off what he said in the video. I'm pretty competitive with anyone I've played during random doubles matches in the area. The local pros (960-980 PDGA ranked) usually beat me by a few strokes. I can throw all the same backhand shots they can and get 90-95% of their distance. I can't throw a roller consistently though. My sidearm (like James Conrad I avoid like the plague) is probably around 60% of what those dudes throw but with 50% of the consistency.
@@EricLeeStepp I would play a tournament before guessing your rating. There is no honest way to guess your own rating.
@@sphdg I literally said I'll be playing tournaments next year if all goes well in my original post. And the video creator literally said "Let us know down in the comments what rating you think you would have if you don't have one yet."
I’m 14 and I play golf competitively for 6 years, I found disc golf about 10 months ago and am thinking about playing a tournament, I would probably be around 900-910 I would think
I'd probably have a solid 420 rating, not too bad at flicking roaches, but that's about it for my skills.
The ratings are bullshit. My example, 5 1000 rated pros Cale, Uli, Paul Oman, Jay Reading and Dan Hastings played a tournament and the best round was Cale at 65 rated 1033. A couple years later same tournament i shot a 59 rated 1046. So if i did it while they were there its 1080. It shouldnt matter whos playing. They pros played the course before so u know what they shoot
I would probably have a 125
This damn near sounds like a calculated standard deviation method to calculate a rating for a round lol.
Ahh just heard him say it
This sounds like the most complicated system ever. Why not go with a system similar to ball golf? Strokes above par factoring in basic course difficulty.
Pros shouldn’t have ratings either. Once you are so good you are just a scratch golfer.
Because disc golf par is wildly variable. On some courses it's easy to shoot -10. On some other courses it's hard to even shoot par.
Todd Lion Ball golf courses are the same way. They each have their own individual rating.
The variety of disc golf courses is far greater than the variety of ball golf courses.
So you mean combine what players shoot with how difficult the course played....wait that's exactly what they do.
950 when I’m playing solo rounds, 930 when I’m with other people 🤪
The rating system kind of needs an overhaul now that there's so many extremely skilled players. 1000-rated used to mean you basically had your name on a disc and now I feel like 1000-rated is every other person I run into on the course.
Players and scores have gotten better, so it makes sense that ratings go up. 1020 is pretty much the new 1000 of the old days.
Ratings are every increasing too. Go calculate the average propagator round rating and average propagator player rating for every round. You will find that the avg prop player rating will be 2-5 points lower than the average round rating for the propagators
@@kevinmosteller7279 "so it makes sense that ratings go up" - I said that mate. I have absolutely no problem with ratings going up as long as players understand where they stack up amongst current top player groups. Players who are below 1000 rated should not be playing in the top pro tour open events, plain and simple. They should have to qualify to get in to those events.
Just stop! Ratings are just stupid! Do pro ball golfers get a rating every time they play a round? Ahhh no!! This is just stupid!! Disc golf needs to stop this BS! Rollers and ratings..... throw them out the door disc golf world!!!!
Robert M haha! 😂
They get ranked for every tournament they play in, yes. PGA has a ranking system very similar to the PDGA. It looks at every event you played in for the last two years, how hard those events were, and where you finished in relation to your competition. That ranking determines what events you get invited to, etc. They are almost identical. Soooo, maybe get your facts straight. Either way DG is not golf, nor should it try to be.