The absolute best casting instructor!Always recommend all your videos to anyone getting started in fly fishing.I’ve watched them a hundred times and still find myself watching them.
Thank you a lot Simon! I came to fly fishing partly because of how great your videos were made for far bank channel, how awesome you explained things. I’m glad that you don’t stop to teach us!
Thank you Simon for the fantastic lessons. I think I've watched all your videos. In addition to knowledge and experience, you have an incredible ability to convey it. In a clear and legible way... and with a bit of humor. Best Regards and tight line. It would be nice to meet by the water.
Thanks for those kind words. I'm delighted you have enjoyed some of the work I have done, and very much appreciate your comments. It would indeed be nice to meet on the water - always the best place to be!!
Hi Simon, great video! I don’t have a #3 line so I used a #4 outfit and a #10 outfit. I maxed out at 116’ with the SA Mastery Trout #4 on the 9’ #10 rod. 85’ with the #10 line on the 9’ #4 rod, both with Rio 9’ 2x Powerflex trout leaders.
Wow, that's some spectacular casting! Seeing you cast further with the underloaded rod tells me all I need to know about your casting skills - very good indeed!!
Hi Simon, brilliant idea Mate. It puts a very clear picture on the concept in altering a casting stroke. Hope you don't mind Simon, but I am going to ruthlessly plagiarize this tool for my own advanced classes! I can tell you love your new role.
Chappie, you can most certainly use and plagiarize to your hearts content. I am honoured that you think it is worth adding to your class content. Hope all is good with you...
Just found this video. I want to try it with my 6’ 2wt glass rod and my 9’8wt. Thats the heaviest rod I have, but I do have an outbound short for it so that should be a good heavy line for doing this. I always enjoy your videos. Thanks.
Great video, thank you Simon. I guess that the flip is equal to now days fast action rods. As as i know, some rod manufacturers just changed the rating if rod blank to make it a fast action. E.g. a 5 wt blank sold as a 4 or 3 wt fast action. This totaly fits the flip outfit.
Looks like a very good exercise. Would you recommend this with a 3wt carbon rod and 10 weight line? Seems like breaking the rod might be a risk? If so what weight carbon rod would be safer? Thank you!
This video is great Simon for learning. Just one question. Once I get my 6wt rod with its WF 6 line how do I have to imagine the scenery? Like and underloaded or an overloaded?🤔
It all depends on how much line you have out. At a short range it will be pretty underloaded, but if the WF has a long head - say 45ft or more, it would technically be overloading the rod...
I like it Simon, “ good casters=rod tip control “ I believe you didn’t mention the word “loop” at all 🤔 Thank you for the challenge clip, the time and work Simon ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Hi Simon, have you any experience of casters with arthritis in the balls of their thumbs? Can you recommend alternative grips, as i'm finding thumb on top painful. Would rod length and line size make a big difference in stress?
There are a couple of other grips that people use - the index finger on the back of the rod - good for accuracy, but not so much for distance, and the "hand shake" grip, where no digit is on the back of the rod handle, but the thumb is on one side and the index finger on the other. You could try those and see if either help. As to part 2 of your question; yes, very much so. The longer the rod, the longer the lever and, therefore, the great the pressure on the thumb. Also, the heavier the line is, the more weight there is and, again more pressure. You will certainly lose distance by using a shorter rod and a lighter line, but distance isn't everything - comfort is.
@@FarBank That's great many thanks. I'm considering an 8ft 6, 4 or 5 weight for my all round trout fishing. Hopefully will help, along with experimenting with grips.👍
@@rangerwhite5165 Sorry, that should have come from me - I was signed in to the Far Bank account when I replied. I didn't ignore you and pass your question on to someone else!
Hi Simon Many thanks for another great video. Whilst I recognise that my question does not relate specifically to the flip flop game could you tell me how far you would expect an intermediate caster to be able to cast a large pike fly on a 10wt Sage X 9’rod and 10wt W/F F5/7 sinking Rio Predator Elite line
Hi Colin, that's an open question!!! Put it this way, I'd expect a relatively novice caster to only be able to throw such a rig somewhere between 25 and 40 feet. An intermediate caster should be able to hit 50 to 70 feet, and a great caster, obviously the whole line. Does that help at all? Glad you liked the video - thanks...
Hi Simon Many thanks for your reply to my question. Your answer does help as it confirms that I am an intermediate caster, given that I can consistently achieve 75-80ft. Despite my best efforts however the remaining 20-25 ft of fly line continues to elude me. I think that it must be timing strength or a combination of the two. Any tips you might have would be very much appreciated Kind Regards, Clive
@@clivebryant9471 - it sounds like your hauls aren't timed perfectly. It could also mean you don't have as tight a front loop as that distance requires, or your "translation" isn't long enough. - or one of another 3 or 4 mistakes that could lead to that. Have you got a good fly casting instructor near to you? If so, I'd give him a visit and see if he can iron out those issues.
@@simongawesworth7812 Many thanks for your thoughts Simon I will take all points on board when I next practice. I will also make contact with Robin Hawes over at Sportfish to help me brush up on my technique. I’m off to Slovenia to try for a Huchen and want to be as good as I can to help improve my chances Kind regards Clive
As always, a fascinating video, Simon! I would love to try this but I only have an 8 wt rod/line, and a 3 wt rod/line, and the 3 wt is not double-tapered. Will I be able to get anything out of flip flop with what i have? And if I really need a DT line to try this, is there an inexpensive line I could buy for this? I don't use DT when actually fishing.
Thanks for the comment, and so glad you liked the video - much appreciated. You really need the length of the DT line to be able to carry enough weight. Most WF lines only have a head of around 40ft, which isn't enough to get the 10wt rod loading. If you have a WF line with a really long head, that will help. There are DT lines on the market for under $40 - not sure if you would consider that as "cheap" though :)
Hi, thank you for this videos and all others! I'm learning fly fishing on these. Could you please help to understand one thing that is bouncing in my mind during the whole video? This overloading (deadly overloading) doesn't kill your three class rod just because of the material it is done with? In other words - how can I understand if a "heavy" line going to break my "gentle" rod or not? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your comment, and for watching my videos, that is very much appreciated. To answer your question, there is little danger of breaking a rod by putting too heavy a fly line on it. The rods are designed to flex deep with a lot of weight so you can fight fish hard, so a good rod should never break, no matter how much line weight you put on. In fairness, to cast a rod that is so overloaded well, you need smooth, slow strokes, and that certainly helps not break a rod, but even if you were to have very fast, rapid casting strokes, you should be fine. Hopefully that makes some kind of sense...
Weird! YT said you had another comment - about why a DT line for the "Flip", and yet I can't see it here! The "why" is simple - WF lines have too short a head to be able to get enough line out to load the "Flip". A DT line could (if the caster is good enough) have 70 or 80 feet outside the rod, which means there is more weight to load the underloaded rod. Not my best explanation, but hopefully one that makes some kind of sense. :)
@@simongawesworth7812 Sorry Simon, didn’t mean to play tricks on you 😊. I deleted my question because soon after I posted the comment, I found the section of your video where you explain precisely this. I’m not sure I understand why if you had a WF line and you had the head several rod lengths out of the tip of the rod, you wouldn’t be able to carry as much line as with a DT line. Unless, the weight of a WF line is much less than a DT line, when measured at 80ft from the leader. Then yes, in that case, it would make sense. Is this the case?
@@cachi-7878 the main reason is that it is very difficult to transfer the energy from the rod, through the thin running line to move the fatter head - especially if there is a lot of running line out. It can be done, but it adds another major level of difficulty, and particularly when underloading a rod like this. You are right, the WF line will weigh even less at 70ft than a DT, and make it even harder to load!
quite fun and very efficient game! only it's a pity that for making some strange point you just whacked your way through the first 10m of the DT3. you could have made it with quite nice controlled and delicate loops. a very stiff rod doesn't mean at all you have to use brute force.
The absolute best casting instructor!Always recommend all your videos to anyone getting started in fly fishing.I’ve watched them a hundred times and still find myself watching them.
Thank you so much, that is incredibly flattering to read, and very much appreciated. Comments like that inspire me to do more, and better :)
Thank you a lot Simon! I came to fly fishing partly because of how great your videos were made for far bank channel, how awesome you explained things. I’m glad that you don’t stop to teach us!
A brilliant idea for an exercise, and a fun game to boot. Nicely done, as usual, Simon.
Thanks :)
Thank you Simon for the fantastic lessons. I think I've watched all your videos. In addition to knowledge and experience, you have an incredible ability to convey it. In a clear and legible way... and with a bit of humor.
Best Regards and tight line. It would be nice to meet by the water.
Thanks for those kind words. I'm delighted you have enjoyed some of the work I have done, and very much appreciate your comments. It would indeed be nice to meet on the water - always the best place to be!!
Hi Simon, great video! I don’t have a #3 line so I used a #4 outfit and a #10 outfit. I maxed out at 116’ with the SA Mastery Trout #4 on the 9’ #10 rod. 85’ with the #10 line on the 9’ #4 rod, both with Rio 9’ 2x Powerflex trout leaders.
Wow, that's some spectacular casting! Seeing you cast further with the underloaded rod tells me all I need to know about your casting skills - very good indeed!!
@@simongawesworth7812 You are very kind, Simon! It’s a fab exercise.
Brilliant exercise, frustrating, but brilliant.
Thank you for this and your other videos.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Simon, brilliant idea Mate. It puts a very clear picture on the concept in altering a casting stroke. Hope you don't mind Simon, but I am going to ruthlessly plagiarize this tool for my own advanced classes! I can tell you love your new role.
Chappie, you can most certainly use and plagiarize to your hearts content. I am honoured that you think it is worth adding to your class content. Hope all is good with you...
Just found this video. I want to try it with my 6’ 2wt glass rod and my 9’8wt. Thats the heaviest rod I have, but I do have an outbound short for it so that should be a good heavy line for doing this. I always enjoy your videos. Thanks.
Thanks Simon this was a great little exercise. I love flyfishing so much. I need to get some more outfits in my bag haha
Thanks for your kind comment, I am delighted you enjoyed the video. We all need a few more outfits 😁
Great video, thank you Simon.
I guess that the flip is equal to now days fast action rods. As as i know, some rod manufacturers just changed the rating if rod blank to make it a fast action. E.g. a 5 wt blank sold as a 4 or 3 wt fast action.
This totaly fits the flip outfit.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. That would indeed be the "flip" outfit!
Looks like a very good exercise. Would you recommend this with a 3wt carbon rod and 10 weight line? Seems like breaking the rod might be a risk? If so what weight carbon rod would be safer? Thank you!
This video is great Simon for learning. Just one question. Once I get my 6wt rod with its WF 6 line how do I have to imagine the scenery? Like and underloaded or an overloaded?🤔
It all depends on how much line you have out. At a short range it will be pretty underloaded, but if the WF has a long head - say 45ft or more, it would technically be overloading the rod...
I like it Simon, “ good casters=rod tip control “
I believe you didn’t mention the word “loop” at all 🤔
Thank you for the challenge clip, the time and work Simon ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thanks SurfSkagit, glad you like it, and very much appreciate your response :)
Hi Simon, have you any experience of casters with arthritis in the balls of their thumbs? Can you recommend alternative grips, as i'm finding thumb on top painful. Would rod length and line size make a big difference in stress?
There are a couple of other grips that people use - the index finger on the back of the rod - good for accuracy, but not so much for distance, and the "hand shake" grip, where no digit is on the back of the rod handle, but the thumb is on one side and the index finger on the other. You could try those and see if either help. As to part 2 of your question; yes, very much so. The longer the rod, the longer the lever and, therefore, the great the pressure on the thumb. Also, the heavier the line is, the more weight there is and, again more pressure. You will certainly lose distance by using a shorter rod and a lighter line, but distance isn't everything - comfort is.
@@FarBank That's great many thanks. I'm considering an 8ft 6, 4 or 5 weight for my all round trout fishing. Hopefully will help, along with experimenting with grips.👍
@@rangerwhite5165 Sorry, that should have come from me - I was signed in to the Far Bank account when I replied. I didn't ignore you and pass your question on to someone else!
@@simongawesworth7812 Hi Simon, I knew it was you with the details! Thanks very much..👌
Hi Simon
Many thanks for another great video. Whilst I recognise that my question does not relate specifically to the flip flop game could you tell me how far you would expect an intermediate caster to be able to cast a large pike fly on a 10wt Sage X 9’rod and 10wt W/F F5/7 sinking Rio Predator Elite line
Hi Colin, that's an open question!!! Put it this way, I'd expect a relatively novice caster to only be able to throw such a rig somewhere between 25 and 40 feet. An intermediate caster should be able to hit 50 to 70 feet, and a great caster, obviously the whole line. Does that help at all?
Glad you liked the video - thanks...
Hi Simon
Many thanks for your reply to my question. Your answer does help as it confirms that I am an intermediate caster, given that I can consistently achieve 75-80ft. Despite my best efforts however the remaining 20-25 ft of fly line continues to elude me. I think that it must be timing strength or a combination of the two.
Any tips you might have would be very much appreciated
Kind Regards,
Clive
@@clivebryant9471 - it sounds like your hauls aren't timed perfectly. It could also mean you don't have as tight a front loop as that distance requires, or your "translation" isn't long enough. - or one of another 3 or 4 mistakes that could lead to that. Have you got a good fly casting instructor near to you? If so, I'd give him a visit and see if he can iron out those issues.
@@simongawesworth7812
Many thanks for your thoughts Simon I will take all points on board when I next practice.
I will also make contact with Robin Hawes over at Sportfish to help me brush up on my technique. I’m off to Slovenia to try for a Huchen and want to be as good as I can to help improve my chances
Kind regards
Clive
As always, a fascinating video, Simon! I would love to try this but I only have an 8 wt rod/line, and a 3 wt rod/line, and the 3 wt is not double-tapered. Will I be able to get anything out of flip flop with what i have? And if I really need a DT line to try this, is there an inexpensive line I could buy for this? I don't use DT when actually fishing.
Thanks for the comment, and so glad you liked the video - much appreciated.
You really need the length of the DT line to be able to carry enough weight. Most WF lines only have a head of around 40ft, which isn't enough to get the 10wt rod loading. If you have a WF line with a really long head, that will help. There are DT lines on the market for under $40 - not sure if you would consider that as "cheap" though :)
Hi, thank you for this videos and all others! I'm learning fly fishing on these. Could you please help to understand one thing that is bouncing in my mind during the whole video? This overloading (deadly overloading) doesn't kill your three class rod just because of the material it is done with? In other words - how can I understand if a "heavy" line going to break my "gentle" rod or not? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your comment, and for watching my videos, that is very much appreciated. To answer your question, there is little danger of breaking a rod by putting too heavy a fly line on it. The rods are designed to flex deep with a lot of weight so you can fight fish hard, so a good rod should never break, no matter how much line weight you put on. In fairness, to cast a rod that is so overloaded well, you need smooth, slow strokes, and that certainly helps not break a rod, but even if you were to have very fast, rapid casting strokes, you should be fine. Hopefully that makes some kind of sense...
@@simongawesworth7812 thank you so much. I have not very many rods - two of them to be honest. 4th class and 9th class. So I will try flipflop game))
@@MicroLosi - let me know how it goes!! :)
Brilliant, Simon! Congratulations, you just found out you’re a great caster! Hahahaha.
😁
Weird! YT said you had another comment - about why a DT line for the "Flip", and yet I can't see it here! The "why" is simple - WF lines have too short a head to be able to get enough line out to load the "Flip". A DT line could (if the caster is good enough) have 70 or 80 feet outside the rod, which means there is more weight to load the underloaded rod. Not my best explanation, but hopefully one that makes some kind of sense. :)
@@simongawesworth7812 Sorry Simon, didn’t mean to play tricks on you 😊. I deleted my question because soon after I posted the comment, I found the section of your video where you explain precisely this. I’m not sure I understand why if you had a WF line and you had the head several rod lengths out of the tip of the rod, you wouldn’t be able to carry as much line as with a DT line. Unless, the weight of a WF line is much less than a DT line, when measured at 80ft from the leader. Then yes, in that case, it would make sense. Is this the case?
@@cachi-7878 the main reason is that it is very difficult to transfer the energy from the rod, through the thin running line to move the fatter head - especially if there is a lot of running line out. It can be done, but it adds another major level of difficulty, and particularly when underloading a rod like this. You are right, the WF line will weigh even less at 70ft than a DT, and make it even harder to load!
@@simongawesworth7812 OK, got it. Thank you, Simon!
quite fun and very efficient game!
only it's a pity that for making some strange point you just whacked your way through the first 10m of the DT3. you could have made it with quite nice controlled and delicate loops. a very stiff rod doesn't mean at all you have to use brute force.
I'm really curious as to your height.
Ha ha, odd question, but 6'
@@simongawesworth7812 I never thought about it until that short running sequence. You run like I do but I'm 6'3. Not too much of a difference.