Madara Would DESTROY Adult Sasuke?!
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#naruto #madara #kaguya
I would've been fine if Kaguya was introduced in Boruto.
she wouldn't last long against naruto and sasuke though
@@bepo1702 that’s true with what is shown now but if they wrote it that way she’d definitely be written stronger
@@Walter-gc2wz you make a valid point there, didn't even think about that
That would’ve been perfect for boruto just write her to be a bit stronger
She is weaker than Base Momoshiki What do you think she would have been able to do??😂 She would even lose to current Borushiki and Kawakishiki
unless Madara gets the ability to open some portals, he's not beating Kaguya. I don't see him countering an all range All-Killling Ash Bones attack (note that it's at least as fast as DMS Kamui) or escaping after getting trapped in another dimension.
Third eye has that ability
@@HC-gm4fo Not confirmed anywhere in the series.
@@HC-gm4fo Not confirmed anywhere in the series.
Nah
Nobodies easily beating an otsutsuki. Kaguya wasnt evenkilled she was sealed after all them hagoromo amps naruto and sasuke were still struggling. If they hadnt sealed her she woulda packed them both and they both above sage 6 paths madara
I still say if Black Zetsu attacked Madara right after getting his body blown apart by Gai would've made much more sense than what actually happened...
No because evidently black zetsu waited to the moment madara achieved the most ampunt of power and by the time he was fighting guy he still lacked second rinnegan
@@themacso4157 And without Casting infinite Tsukuyomi, Kaguya can't be revived
@@UchihaObito551 good point. May i add, if he only waited for madara to wipe naruto and sasuke that would have been much more clever for black zetsu to do...
Just have gai fighr him as he activates it.
Give 8 gates a reason to resist the jutsu and gai dying heroicly.
Zetsu can still pull his bs but its when Madara is weakened.
Or better ydt have Night huy leave a,lasting injury that team 7 and obito exploid to defeat him after an intense fight.
Interduce Kaguya stronger in Boruto.
@@rishisaaptacha i think madara had quite the chance to wipe the floor with narusasuke...even more than kaguya ever had. She may have been more powerful than madara but she was way less intelligent and experienced.
So we just ignore the fact that technically hogoromo was the first otsutski god for for the last like 15yrs without eating a single chakra fruit meanwhile Shiba had to eat thousands or more
Hagaromo wasnt an otsutski god, he was the god of shinobi. Big difference in power there.
@@xbeliefs4242 but what does that even mean it's confusing both have transcended physical plane.
Godly power to an otsutski is far different than what a shinobi would consider godly power. Yes Hagaromo was indeed a god but not on the same level as what an otsutski would probably consider a god. Correct me if im wrong but technically all otsutski can transcend the physical plane. The difference is that shibai doesnt seem to need to use karma to return to the physical plane or even need to have a physical form to affect it. I could be wrong but i dont think it was ever stated that hagaromo could ever just ressurect on a whim. Sure he was able to reach out and connect with the physical plane to give his power to naruto and sasuke but obito was also able to do that for kakashi, possibly due to becoming an otsuski or retaining some of their powers from being the ten tails jinchuriki. Even if you look at momoshiki and isshikki in boruto, both were killed and were still able to stay for a short time to either pass on a karma or a message respectively. Also Hagaromo didnt have Jougan or isshikkis dojust, only the rinnegans which seems to be part of the reason shibai is considered to be a god by possessing all of the dojutsu and possibliy a form with dozens of jougan. Dont get me wrong Hagaromo is a beast and more than likely possessed many forms of shinjutsu but id say he is somewhere between the ranks of momoshikki or isshikki in terms of power.
@@xbeliefs4242 wouldn’t creation of all things have to be shinjutsu? I feel like anything else is prob a limited version because of human minds aren’t as developed plus chakra levels
@@xbeliefs4242 I believe that Hagoromo is probably the strongest being we've seen in the series thus far. We know at the very least that with the aid of his brother he was able to defeat both the complete ten tails and a full power Kaguya who at the least scales somewhat below base Momoshiki. After he becomes the jinchuuriki of the ten tails it's reasonable to assume his power would skyrocket to an absolutely astronomical degree considering the level of amp that KCM gives to Naruto. Correct me if I'm wrong but the fact that he's a jinchuuriki to a tailed beast that makes Kurama look like a baby, by comparison, being in possession of Dual Six Tomoe Rinnegan with the third eye, plus complete mastery of all chakra just seems absurd to me. Additionally, just his ghostly goo essence which is likely many times weaker than he was in life was enough to grant Naruto and Sasuke massive amps which allowed them to combat Kaguya, which was just a fraction of his power. Of course, we have very few feats that I'm aware of but based on this information alone I don't think it is unreasonable to assume he would completely shit on Isshikki at full power. Truly insane levels of chakra likely far eclipsing Naruto, the most advanced Dojutsu in the series, highest level of chakra mastery in the series, was able to give massive amps while being a shadow of his former self, etc. Curious about your opinion.
I think this is one of those moments where plot makes things not add up. Sasukes peak form is at a time when his character is being sunset for the new generation so he won’t be gassed up where madara at peak is supposed to be the final boss so he was given absurd feats. The analysis isn’t wrong it just is skewed by kishimotos goals at the time in the story.
Kishimote did an awful job at the end of naruto series. Also theres lots of plotholes all along the anime
I agree, everything in the narrative points towards sasuke being stronger but the way the show is being written its just not showing that
He didn't fight the entire alliance when he was reanimated. He fought the entire 4th division.
What’s the difference??? He embarrassed the kage of all 5 great nations lol
@@ZeroFlameX with stolen power ☠️
@@ZeroFlameX I get he was strong but madra came back with rinnegan that’s enough for any kage other than NAURTO
@@demetrilewis1620 he was kinda weaker than ems
The author knew that naruto and Sasuke didn't stand a chance against him.
Thank you so much for finally diving into this. Juubidara is literally too outhaxed. Imo he could beat kaguya, adult sasuke and adult naruto, he’d get bodied by BM Naruto though.
He wouldn’t beat any of them what are you taking about
Don’t believe everything you hear the level of misinformation in this video is insane. NCHammer I doubt you’re gonna see this, but you’re not a power scaler so by making these types of videos you spread a terrible level of misinformation. You claimed that as an Edo Madara was brought back beyond the height of his power which isn’t true. It wasn’t until after Madara was revived that Hashirama said “He’s regaining his past strength” meaning as an Edo Tensei despite having a Rinnegan, and Wood Release his still wasn’t as strong as his alive counterpart. You also spread misinformation about how his Sage Mode works none of that stuff was ever stated meaning it conjecture holding zero relevance in a discussion. Madara also even after gaining his Rinne-Sharingan was still weaker than Naruto/Sasuke. He would’ve lost. Naruto’s Shadow Clones we’re able to defeat his Limbo Clones when he was trying to set up the Infinite Tsukiyomi. If we believe Shadow Clones are weaker than the original which they are factually Naruto would be stronger than three eyed Madara because in the databooks Limbo are stated to be equal to the original person. You also suggested Madara was approaching Hagoromo in strength, and is stronger than Kaguya which neither is true. Upon Kaguya’s appearance Sasuke says her chakra dwarfs Madara’s and he couldn’t believe someone that strong existed. In Naruto chakra and strength correlate to each other heavily so Sasuke’s statements support Kaguya being stronger than Madara, and that she’d win against him. This is hilariously bad in one instance you’re willing to take assertions at face value but in another you’re like there’s no evidence. Sasuke is equal to Naruto in strength with them both being legendary shinobi that can bully Otsutsuki. Fatigued Naruto/Sasuke > Fused Momoshiki > Kaguya > Three Eyed Madara. Hang it up stop spreading misinformation please. In conclusion Madara isn’t stronger than Kaguya.
@@crimsonredkingdom2656 lol its not that big of a deal, there is no right answer because the writing is made in a way you can interpret it in many ways. Power scaling really is flawed, useful but flawed, the best way you can determine the strength of something is based on how the writer chose to write the thing.
@@PanCake-uu7he agreed
@@PanCake-uu7he That’s the thing it’s not up for debate. There are feats as well as statements that support my claims, and I mentioned them when making my argument.
The worst argument i ever heard about Madara being above Kaguya. this guy is total comedian
"A character who played a much larger plot in the role than any of those 3 combined"
I love the idea of Kaguya but hate how she just killed off Madara
i would say that instantaneous/ irrelevant speed attacks are often misunderstood. in most applicable cases the [attack] is not itself instantaneous, only the [movement] to the point were the attack would be initiated. this might not sound like anything worth noting but an incredibly high speeds things like teleporting primarily work not because of how fast you move but because of how hard it is to predict instantaneous movement which leaves you open to the non-instant attack.
characters like the flash can move at incalculable speeds that defy time-space and can actually hit you while moving that fast but the flying Raijin seems to always be moving to a place and THEN attacking. you can set up the attack, like winding up a punch, and then teleporting behind your target to land the punch but the punch isn't moving anywhere near as fast as your movement to the spot
I agree with all you have said. The only instantaneous attack I've seen is Minato using Hiraishin against Obito IN THE MANGA.
In the anime, it is as you described: he teleported, and then started movement. But In the manga, Minato teleported and didn't make any other move; he only fell in the same position, landing an almost instantaneous Rasengan.
@@neski311 that may be technically true but even that id be skeptical as not only are high-level ninjas generally seen to move imperceivable fast but manga panels do not illustrate every second of an action and Minato is capable of producing rasengans quickly and with one hand
in the end flying Raijin is not an attack and if Minato could attack as fast as Rajin moves him that'd be an extra dimension of absurd that should change how a number of his fights went which is why I dont believe he attacks that fast
Man….that title change co crazy😭🤣
Madara comin back in Boruto to wipe the otsutsukis. Im callin it now
“He was killed he was stabbed in the back”😂😂😂
NC we were actually worried bro, don't do that to us 😭
Madara should have been the last villain. And, it should have been with Sakura helping with at least her chakra control (preferably sage mode too) plus the rest of the important Leaf ninja getting him in the position to do it. Like have DMS Kakashi and 8 Gate Guy with other Jonin getting him out of his 10 tails Susano
Ok, I think it's about time people get over the fact that Madara wasn't the final villain, the reason they should is because Sasuke was the final villain, Madara and Sasuke are the same thing, they're both the reincarnation of Indra, Sasuke is the perfect final villain as he was built up from the get go. Also theres no way Madara could ever defeat Kaguya, it's not ever a question.
Madara can, he just needed time to get familiar with his power, plus we never saw him powering up susano, imagine that he can make multiple clones with susano and each susano could have rennigan? Imagine how broken would be his susano with rinnegan on their own and powers of sage path, kaguya would of fled in a instant
On top of that, imagine their susano can use the likes of kamui and other ability? Ffs kaguya won’t stand a chance
Don’t believe everything you hear the level of misinformation in this video is insane. NCHammer I doubt you’re gonna see this, but you’re not a power scaler so by making these types of videos you spread a terrible level of misinformation. You claimed that as an Edo Madara was brought back beyond the height of his power which isn’t true. It wasn’t until after Madara was revived that Hashirama said “He’s regaining his past strength” meaning as an Edo Tensei despite having a Rinnegan, and Wood Release his still wasn’t as strong as his alive counterpart. You also spread misinformation about how his Sage Mode works none of that stuff was ever stated meaning it conjecture holding zero relevance in a discussion. Madara also even after gaining his Rinne-Sharingan was still weaker than Naruto/Sasuke. He would’ve lost. Naruto’s Shadow Clones we’re able to defeat his Limbo Clones when he was trying to set up the Infinite Tsukiyomi. If we believe Shadow Clones are weaker than the original which they are factually Naruto would be stronger than three eyed Madara because in the databooks Limbo are stated to be equal to the original person. You also suggested Madara was approaching Hagoromo in strength, and is stronger than Kaguya which neither is true. Upon Kaguya’s appearance Sasuke says her chakra dwarfs Madara’s and he couldn’t believe someone that strong existed. In Naruto chakra and strength correlate to each other heavily so Sasuke’s statements support Kaguya being stronger than Madara, and that she’d win against him. This is hilariously bad in one instance you’re willing to take assertions at face value but in another you’re like there’s no evidence. Sasuke is equal to Naruto in strength with them both being legendary shinobi that can bully Otsutsuki. Fatigued Naruto/Sasuke > Fused Momoshiki > Kaguya > Three Eyed Madara. Hang it up stop spreading misinformation please. In conclusion Madara isn’t stronger than Kaguya. Even with a Susano’o Madara would’ve lost. Upon gaining Six Paths Sage Mode you immediately become familiar with all the abilities it bestows upon the user. This is when Kakashi asked “How did you do that” referring to when he restored Gai Naruto responds “I don’t know I feel like I can change everything” implying he instinctively knew he could save Gai.
@@crimsonredkingdom2656 so you clearly made a point there, MADARA WASNT FIGHTING SERIOUSLY, if madara wanted he could of created 5 susano with those susano in perfect state with rinnegan and powers equal to his, so that put us back to YES MADARA COULD DEFEAT KAGUYA EASILY IF HE WAS SERIOUS
@@panblu and naruto would still stomp
Okay now I need to see a image of Madara flicking around hashirama Peck face😂
20:25 -- so what if hagoromo is the kid of Shibai ? It will make sense for him to achieve the same level of transcendence and be omnipotent. Imagine that!!!
I just saw the final episode of Naruto today, it was a long journey, I began it in grade 7 and I am now second year university, I don't wan to be done but I still have this channel for more Naruto content
Madara would monkey stomp the Shinobi alliance and Sasuke and Naruto would be coughing up Bijuu chakra like rent
This is madara glazing at its finest
Man’s really said tobirama had irrelevant speed😂
Everyone beats Sasuke. He's poorly written, and never wins a fight on his own merits. He's literally a plot device set up to be defeated.
Damn never realized how OP Madara was
sage of six paths turned his ems into a rinngian madera was not the only one or even the first
Thank you maybe now ppl can put some respect o. Madara's name. This man literally was such a villain and so OP the writer that mad his was literally like "welp idk what to do soooo...let's make it look like I planned for him to die in a...poetic way that speaks to his character and ideals"
Can you explain to me who downplayed madara strength
@@anime_world6684 boruto fans 😂
This man may have envoked the wrath of the power scalers.
You don’t need chakra for the Infinite Tsukuyomi… you just made madara seem like infinite chakra with a statement that is wrong.
Wonder how the first Uchiha to find out how to EMS.
Probably an outcast who everyone thought was a weirdo, putting other people's eyes into his own head.
It started with Indra Otsutsuki.
Black Zetsu was the one who told Indra Otsutsuki about EMS.
And then all the Knowledge was passed down from Indra to his Descendants in Uchiha Clan.
Did Nick just get a Hashirama cell arm!? Can't wait for the vs battle between SwagKage and Nick w/ wood release.
i think if kaguya was introduced in boruto, and ten tails madara was the final naruto villain, that would have been fine
The problem is they nerfed the crap out of Naruto and Sasuke in Boruto where Madara had nothing but amps during the war. And I think people underestimate how strong Naruto and Sasuke were after sealing kauguya.
They aren’t nerfed after boruto
Why was madara not concerned about why there was only one other uchiha on the battle field of the 4 Great War
Adult Naruto is literally stated to be equal to Adult Sasuke as per author.
How is there enough gap that Madara can be fit in-between?
The Hagaromo wank is insane😭
Madara < kaguya ( according to sasuke )
Adult sasuke > Kaguya ( according to Sasuke and the narrator)
On the 2nd channel maybe a madara vs white beard?
Meanwhile in Boruto Jigen kicked through Sasunoo like Naaada
And people claim characters like Zoro can solo Naruto Verse. They'll just end up dismissing facts, and claim false logic rather often....
Edit: I'm willing to claim that Kaguya could still beat Madara, however one thing about kaguya would have to be changed. It was stated that Kaguya never really trained her fighting skills. If she did, then Naruto Shippuden would probably have ended slightly different.
In all fairness, she's a mid-tier Otsutsuki. She _has_ no actual opponents in terms of power other than _stronger_ Clansmen. I don't think Kaguya has _ever_ had to actually fight seriously even _once_ in her millennia-long life, and so she never bothered to learn how to do so; naturally, this bit her in the rear against her sons and, later, descendants.
17:21 it never said that Obito can’t phase but not that he can’t use his ms ability as a whole
hashirama fought madara alone in the valley of the end. At no place they say Tobirama was part of killing Madara.
think you also forgot to mention that because he is the ten tails Jinchuriki he has every single release and kekkai genkai except the doujutsus and six path sage mode as well witch you didn't say witch also comes from being the ten tails Jinchuriki.
No, Sasuke is stomping ANY version of Madara through better feats and stats. The bias is just plain clear to even reach a obvious choice. Kaguya was also stated to be way stronger than Madara. None of his attacks would work on Sasuke.
Itachi was so powerful that they killed him with a disease 👁️👄👁️
Adult Sasuke destroys Madara no difficulty this shouldn't even be a discussion, It is stated in the data books that he and naruto are equals dring the momoshiki fight and even Sasuke stated when Kaguys appeared that she is way stronger than Madara. There really is no discussion between these 2 characters.
what madara sharigan abilty was to extend his life or a way to make the geto statue extend his life
@3:31 New tattoo? Suuuure. We know it’s a bunch of sharingan underneath it
Well it’s Madara,we can’t really blame Sasuke for losing .
I wouldnt have noticed the arm thing until you said something.. probably wouldve thought it was a compression sleeve but what was the new tat
Remember Might Guy kicked Madara with only his hardwork.
How could Obito sword from the sage of Six Paths created the Earth when the Earth was here long before Kaguya got here
Was there a debate going on that a handicap dude couldn't beat a guy who became a literal god?
Madara could've beaten everyone in a fight, the entire reason Kaguya was introduced was because Kishimoto couldn't figure out any way to kill Madara.
Agreed
juubidara losing to naruto is CRAZY 10 tails > 9 tails
Also, let me also say that Madara is NOT STRONGER than Kaguya.
Imagine madara with 1000hands susano limbo clones, Brooo
It's impossible to see the full potential of every strong character and still have a good story, cause then you'd have to give them all plot armor which already is pretty dumb, but then you'd have to throw power scaling out the window as not everyone can be as strong as the strongest characters without creating inconsistencies.
So I'm fine with some powerful characters not displaying their full potential, cause those weaknesses and mysteries is what makes good storytelling. When you start writing in fights just to satiate audience bloodlust, you just get shitty merchandise out of it
NC Hammer can you do a full analysis on Hagoromo please thanks 😀
One day someone’s gonna make a madara and hashirama love story film like the notebook and I’ll watch it lol
I can see someone likes Madara
Dude love your content!! You get me through my work days 😆
Madaras insane healing ability... tanking Might Guy ultimate... and then healing fast enough to then go toe to toe with Six Paths Naruto and Sasuke after that. Adult Sasuke doesn't have the Stamina nor durability of Madara.
He didn’t tank he absorbed the god tree even tho he was hurt before but he didn’t tank
And adult sauske is way more skilled and faster plus 6 tomoe rinnegan
@Demetri Lewis My argument remains the same. Killer Bee basically killed Sasuke twice when they met. I think we can argue by the time Madara was his age he was completing feats on a level higher than Killer Bee. Adult Sasuke is VERY strong. I just don't think 10 tails Madara loses to him 1 on 1, full Chakra and health for both... Sasuke just doesn't measure up imo. Even Madaras resolve is stronger than Sasuke which I think weakens him as an adult.
Bro forgot hagoromo sharingan turned to renigan
The fact that Sasuke is almost Soloing Momoshiki who was stated to be much stronger than Kaguya which mind you was BEFORE he fused, so honestly yeah no, Sasuke still claps Madara in my mind if Seth and Swagkage taught me anything its this.
It was the 5 kage + Sasuke + Naruto + Boruto, and Madara never used his mangekyou sharingan, and Naruto and Sasuke don't have the sun and moon seals. Sasuke also doesn't have his rinnegan
Naruto and Sasuke don't even have 6 paths powers anymore
@@lesouth0348 The other Kage barely did anything, Naruto was fatigued and was fighting at half capacity due to having a lot of his chakra extracted, Borute only basically did the finishing blow, you don't really need the Sun and Moon seal to beat an Otsusuki, also not to mention Naruto and Sasuke still have Six Paths powers, with Naruto you can see it whenever he goes into Sage mode, and with Sasuke, I mean he quite literally has a Rinne Sharingan with SIX PATHS POWERS. (This is pre Rinnegone)
Sasuke should win as long as he dosent run out of chakra.
TECHNICALLY each clone by themelves werent enough to take the kage, i feel like yeah he wanted to be petty cuz they all wanted to jump him, but i feel like he REALLY did it because one clone each would have gotten bagged
Short answer no. Now skip this video
You should make an what if Madara’s brother had lived and tobirama died video
Guessing you also like sethThePrgramer? Watching this and his video back to back. Love both your takes on this.
@NCHammer 23 It wasn't retconned at all the seal just has the effect of killing her as well. When hagoromo and hamura sealed
here the first time she was dead as well and needed to be revived. Zetsu himself even says this when naruto and sasuke seal her
he says i'll just have to start again in order to revive mother meaning she was dead there too. So no naruto and sasuke couldn't kill kaguya
and no one in that group directly scaled to her she was stronger than all of them. Also she wasn't a little bit stronger than madara naruto said she had way more chakra then him and sasuke said she was on another level than him.
can you please do Madara vs Minato before they both even died I’m tired of arguing with my girlfriend about Madara being stronger lol i need you on my side you’re the only person i know that knows more Naruto than anybody.
this was so great brother.. thank you for this information.. now me & my close friends arguing lol
any object with mass can bend space-time
My grandma could destroy adult Sasuke. Just playin it’d be a tie shed be like “oh my back” and he’d be like “oh my chakra.”
Wait, did he just imply that there were more important things in Anime storytelling than the height of Sai's crop top? I think my mind just got blown. 🤯
Naruto at the time of fighting Kaguya was infinitely more powerful than what he was fighting Madara
Can you make a video about kashin koji of how strong is he can he defeat six path jubito in the war arc?
They messed up by not making madara the last villain.
One thing I dont get is that you say that your not a power scaler but still do vs battels
Wait Madara played a larger role than Kimimaro, Haku, and Itachi altogether? I can’t agree with that with Itachi in there. The show should literally be called Itachi instead of Naruto.
You’re videos are so much better than swagkage honestly lmao
Madara was never on par with Hashirama. 😂😂
Hello, NCHammer! I have been watching your videos for quite a while now and I have always wondered if full power Muzan Kibusuji would beat someone like Madara Uchiha, even though they are from different universes I do believe that the fight that could happen between these two would be quite interesting!
I give it 2 Adult Sasuke
two thing to consider. One adult sasuke is stronger than kaguya the same kaguya who is a ten tails level increase aboce madara. In addition in the last sasuke was stated to be kakashis strongest student putting over the naruto who one shot toneri, the same toneri who was stated to be above kaguya.
I really do believe that Madera would of been able to fight and kill kaguya not simply but regardless I do think he would win
What would Madara do when she traps him in one of her dimensions?
@@z.e.d4037 Probably sit there and wait for a counterattack opportunity. It wouldn't be the first time Madara had to face down a superior foe, and we know that Kaguya would need to come back to him _eventually_ to take his Chakra from him; getting within arm's-reach of Madara is typically considered a bad move, no matter who you are.
Juibidara beats any otsotsuki especially Sasuke and Naruto. You cant convince me that there is someone steonger than him especially when he was close to Hagoromo just with 1 Rinnegan.
Naw, I think you and others are misinterpreting Hagoromo's statement about Madara approaching/being close to him in power. It doesn't specifically say Hagoromo at his current ethereal afterlife version or even when he was alive, as I doubt Madara without 10 tails jinchuuriki form was anywhere near his power. Now Madara was indeed OP, that's not indisputable, but we didn't see him use "creation of all things" or anything close to it, that Hagoromo could and has used. So until there's evidence that he could, then I can't assume Hagoromo meant it how y'all perceived it (which is quite silly and ignorant in my opinion of y'all). Especially that you believe Hagoromo meant at his current state too is freaking WILDLY ASININE lmao, no way were anyone in the war anywhere close to Hagoromo's current form, excluding Kaguya. Like come on, be logical and use y'all brain a little more, you'd deduce how retarded that statement is smh.
I simply just think he meant Madara obtaining similar power as a 10 tails jinchuuriki was close to his 10 tail jinchuuriki form, just like Obito who had most of the tools Hagoromo & Madara had (dojutsu-rinnegan, sage mode, 10 tails jinchuuriki powers, etc...). Though Madara was one of the 2 to obtain a Rinne-Sharingan like Kaguya (which is a dope feat and could be argued that that eye alone could possibly make Madara stronger than alive jinchuuriki Hagoromo or close to power since Hagoromo didn't have a Rinne-Sharingan, giving an up/advantage over Hagoromo) but I still think that'd be farfetched and even with Madara having Rinne-Sharingan still wasn't Hagoromo's equal. Hagoromo was half Otsutsuki and had 25% of Kaguya's total chakra, he was born as a demigod lmao. And the fact he is still able to manifest himself even after death, even stronger than he was alive in death, having infinite surge of chakra and power would be ignorant to compare him to Madara. We haven't seen Madara after death, able to defy death itself (literally leave "Naruto heaven") and not only manifest a spiritual form that is able to interact with the physical realm, but also travel to multiple dimensions, transfer/gift power to others, upgrade others powers and abilities, etc. We haven't seen any individual do that still yet, not even the Otsutsuki has done that, except Ishiki when he appeared before Code in spirit but quickly dispersed because he couldn't keep manifesting his spiritual form. Kaguya is on a whole other level too since she's literally chakra itself now, so unkillable and can resurrect if outside forces allow so. But there isn't any individual on earth able to do what Hagoromo has done and still does. Those feats alone, a individual able to manifest themselves after death is NUTS, and thus automatically disputes any opinions saying otherwise.
Finally someone is uding logic
I feel like the ending should’ve been reaper death seal on madara with him as the final villain, just imagine minato using or Naruto learning it from his dad and using it on madara
It wouldn't work bro tt justu is not tt strong as you think
Kaguya vs madara is so one sided it's actually funny.
So first off, we HAVE to assume tha Kaguya wants his chakra or something, cause otherwise she instantly teleports him away and BFR win xD, this would have happened to naruto and sasuke if they didn't have something she wanted.
Second is that sasuke and naruto freak out when she first shows up and sasuke straight up says that she's either over twice as strong, or "in a different league" to Madara depending on translation, regardless of interpretation, naruto specifically says that the extra chakra going into madara's body is greater than the 10 tails in volume.
3rd is KAguya blitzes and operpowers both naruto and sasuke multiple times, where naruto's shadow clones were equal to limbo and they could just fight madara.
And just the final nail in the coffin, all of the above is a suppressed and unstable Kaguya, they litterally state that she gets much, much more powerful later on after she stabalises, and that's when she goes for the ETSO.
Jubidara caps at end of series sasuke and naruto, and that's it, not their crazy avatar forms, not kaguya, and definately not momo or ishiki xD. Also just to be annoying, Toneri is stated to be stronger than KAguya, or bear minimum, as strong, so he also one shots madara unironically.
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I honestly don’t think that is necessary fair to compare Madara from Shippuden to adult Sasuke from Boruto simply because Madara’s character was build up to become the final villain of Naruto and in order to become that he obviously had to gain an insanely amount of power. Both adult Sasuke and Naruto in Boruto were pretty much going on the road of getting these two characters nerfed so that the new generation will have the chance to shine. As you said, we’ve never seen Juubidara full potential but we’ve also have never seen Sasuke’s full potential, he was severly restricted from using the full capacity of the Rinnegan and that was simply because of plot reasons. While you might say he doesn’t have enough chakra to handle the Rinnegan that simply is not consistent to the Sasuke version of Shippuden who was capable of pretty much master a godly eye in a full war against 2 OP characters like Kaguya and Madara and was never seen having issues with his chakra levels while using the Rinnegan. He was able to put all the tailed beasts under a genjutsu, to maintain that genjutsu while pulling out a Chibaku tensei on all of them and at the same time countering Kurama’s bijuu bombs before even absorbing the tailed beasts chakra. There is a huge difference between Shippuden and Boruto and that difference relies simply on the plot, Naruto and Sasuke are not the main characters anymore and Madara with all his power got killed by Black Zetsu.😅
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6 paths Naruto and Sasuke were clapping Madara low diff. All that he gains with another rinnegan after that was more power and 2 more limbo clones. Then he kept his distance from them to start tsukuyomi. I think he ran intentionally. Sasuke cut him in half with Chidori sharp spear with zero difficulty. With merely his sword and little ninjutsu Sasuke held off an otsutsuki in the Boruto movie
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Post war sasuke is stronger than adult sasuke it just seem like he had way more charka and could use his rinnegan way more effectively
He looked as if he had so little Chakra 8n boruto because Creating portals costs alot of Chakra its stated that creating a portal would cost naruto 1/3 of his chakra
Sun minion jutsu and the gedo appears before bearer or rinnegan
Do you think Sasuke is losing stamina cause he's starting to show signs of the same chakra disease as Itachi?
No
He doesn’t have Hamura’s chakra anymore