And it was always said that, despite their large numbers, they were really poorly engineered because Diesel locomotive engineering still was not understood in the late 50s...
Great video, but I hate seeing rolling stock going for scrap, especially Mk3 carriages which have, IMHO, more life left in them and are definitely more comfortable than much more recent carriages.
@@KandleliteMK3's have been made disabled friendly by getting sliding doors and disabled spaces. Take a look at the castle sets, Inter7City and Cross country HSTs. They all use sliding doors and have been modified to have wheelchair spaces. The MK3's seen going for scrap in this video are no longer needed anymore.
Again it's always about cost effectiveness,some of those mk 3 coaches are around 50 years old and been refurbished a number of times over the years . There comes a time when enough is enough.
@5.02 London Liverpool Street to chingford overground train I definitely would have been on that sad times . The new ones have horrible loud transport police announcements and loud door beeps and hard seats and they always break down
Great video, I agree wit the other commentators on here that it is shame that the MK3s are being taken away for scrap! Unless the metal is fatigued and reaching the end of their structural life, from an interior seating point of they're probably better than their replacement coaching stock & should take the decent seats out and refurbish them and fit them in the new stock!
I remember when Cashmore's were scrapping GWR Kings and Castles in Newport. Fortunately, they had very little siding space to store locos waiting to be moved in the yard. This resulted in most locos ending up at Dai Woodham, as he had all those sidings from the coal export days..
Why don't they utilise recently released HST power cars as hauler units? With their more modern and fuel efficient engines instead of ancient locos like 37's 47's and 57,s. Surely the power cars have the power to do it plus a higher route availability due to being a Bo-Bo design! Tractive effort maybe?
The thing is, all these scrapped trains would have had a use elsewhere, as they could have been preserved or exported to another country. It's a waste of time and money, if you ask me.
To me at least it looked like a whole train company was being repossessed and the company refused so the said ok we're going to scrap your stock and engines
they should not scrap the class 91's or the 365's there not old there to modern to be scrapped. the only thing wich needs to be scrapped is the loco hauling the trains.
Perfectly good carriges, perfectly good locos, yet LNER doesn't care because the new 'azuma' trains are better, I don't care they're fast, they're not nice to look at after a while, they don't have the nostalgia that things like the 43 and 91 have, they're not beautiful and unique because they're lasted the test of time, these new trains straight off the market, they're fast, but they're not good
It’s staggering to think the 37s are more than double the age of some of the stock they are hauling away for scrap.
And it was always said that, despite their large numbers, they were really poorly engineered because Diesel locomotive engineering still was not understood in the late 50s...
You can tell something is good when it’s lasted over 60 years.
Great video, but I hate seeing rolling stock going for scrap, especially Mk3 carriages which have, IMHO, more life left in them and are definitely more comfortable than much more recent carriages.
Thanks...
Mark 3 are NOT DISABLED FRIENDLY!!! And not SAFE !
@@Kandlelite the seats are though, it's not hard to deal with
@@KandleliteMK3's have been made disabled friendly by getting sliding doors and disabled spaces. Take a look at the castle sets, Inter7City and Cross country HSTs. They all use sliding doors and have been modified to have wheelchair spaces. The MK3's seen going for scrap in this video are no longer needed anymore.
Again it's always about cost effectiveness,some of those mk 3 coaches are around 50 years old and been refurbished a number of times over the years . There comes a time when enough is enough.
@5.02 London Liverpool Street to chingford overground train I definitely would have been on that sad times . The new ones have horrible loud transport police announcements and loud door beeps and hard seats and they always break down
Brilliant video Derek. Fantastic selection of locos and rolling stock. Shame so many trains being scrapped. Kind regards C&A
Thank you C&A...
Most exellent
Great video, I agree wit the other commentators on here that it is shame that the MK3s are being taken away for scrap! Unless the metal is fatigued and reaching the end of their structural life, from an interior seating point of they're probably better than their replacement coaching stock & should take the decent seats out and refurbish them and fit them in the new stock!
Agreed
Not to worry, a lot of MK3's are being stored.
It's an even bigger shame that Mk4 coaches are being scrapped.
Most of the scrap looks quite decent!
Great collection of clips of the scrap runs, with some nice stills at the end. Thanks Derek.
Cheers,Peter...
End of an era
I remember when Cashmore's were scrapping GWR Kings and Castles in Newport. Fortunately, they had very little siding space to store locos waiting to be moved in the yard. This resulted in most locos ending up at Dai Woodham, as he had all those sidings from the coal export days..
Those Mk3 coaches still probably more comfortable than the newer sets that replaced them.
91s getting scrapped? Heartbreaking :(
Brilliant video my friend like 8 👍
Cheers Walter...
Plenty of life left in them unit’s especially the 365’s what an absolute waste of modern trains with sliding doors doesn’t make any sense at all
Super video!
Thanks Boris...
Great video Derek, thumbs up :)
Thank you Simon...
Why don't they utilise recently released HST power cars as hauler units? With their more modern and fuel efficient engines instead of ancient locos like 37's 47's and 57,s. Surely the power cars have the power to do it plus a higher route availability due to being a Bo-Bo design! Tractive effort maybe?
I don't know why ScotRail never kept some of the 365s.
The thing is, all these scrapped trains would have had a use elsewhere, as they could have been preserved or exported to another country. It's a waste of time and money, if you ask me.
To me at least it looked like a whole train company was being repossessed and the company refused so the said ok we're going to scrap your stock and engines
The most heartbreaking for me was the 365 :,(
Same I almost cried
I'm surprised there's any trains left on the network after this attrition!
Waste of some good stock that!
they should not scrap the class 91's or the 365's there not old there to modern to be scrapped. the only thing wich needs to be scrapped is the loco hauling the trains.
Here in America we scrap whole railroads... they call it mergers.
Perfectly good carriges, perfectly good locos, yet LNER doesn't care because the new 'azuma' trains are better, I don't care they're fast, they're not nice to look at after a while, they don't have the nostalgia that things like the 43 and 91 have, they're not beautiful and unique because they're lasted the test of time, these new trains straight off the market, they're fast, but they're not good
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