@@Pablo.Gutierre12 Yea, but for me I like to keep cars near stock, unless I get really attached to my car and keep it for a long time. Then I'll do big upgrades on it over time or restorations.
I didn't see it mentioned, but after a couple decades of turning bolts one thing that has really stood out to me regarding aftermarket turbos (and apologies for stating the obvious) is that NO aftermarket kit/company can approach the testing/QA/QC you get with a factory boosted car. This is really obvious with the turbo manifolds. So many manifolds crack and consider how many people are actually daily driving their boosted cars?? OEMs design their boost to get beat on. Aftermarket companies have a FEW test cars. Additionally, until somewhat recently, the ECU for aftermarket boost has always been inferior to OEM. We now have multiple options for very fast/realtime correction ECUs that are fast enough to save our motors. However, plug n' play solutions are still somewhat limited. If I were to add boost now, there is no way I'd use any ECU unless it was fast enough to use safeguards and save the engine.
When I got a bigger turbo for my RB30 I got a custom high rise manifold made. I would not consider an off the shelf or postal map. You need a tuneable ecu and get it tuned by a competent tuner on a dyno.
Superchargers are definitely more linear and reliable than turbo chargers but turbo chargers give you more potential and the feeling of hitting boost in a turbo car is unmatched.
So basically a super charger will blast out the door but lose power on the big end if your racing and a turbo will lag out the door but wooo make crazy power on the big end so tie is are better for racing and super charger is good for just showing out and making dig outs . I’m looking to build a sleeper so I think turbo will Be best for what I’m trying to do because we race a lot
Nobody really tells you that centrifugal superchargers get all the lag of turbos without being connected to the exhaust. Roots and screw blowers though that's a whole different story instant power and torque.
Thanks, but I'll keep it simpler with increased displacement and higher compression, along with lower vehicle weight. Someday I'll rebuild my VQ37 in my 370z with a 4.3 liter bored and stroked engine with a 12:1 compression ratio. 8'm currently getting about 380 peak crank hp with an intake, exhaust and tune.
Great video bruh.. Seems like your talking about TT VS SuperCharger.. Most ppl out here are not TT their cars.. So a SuperCharger will produce more power than a Single Turbo??
No. A big single turbo will spool slower than TT. This is depending on the size of turbos your working with. But if the two systems produce similar peak HP the TT system should spool quicker overall.
Just better fueling, ie injectors and pump for low boost. High boost, most cars will need atleast stronger rods.. you will need a tune regardless of boost added
Great video, i just wanted to point out, in superchargers you have to replace the intake manifold with the supercharger, the supercharger is much safer on the car but not as effective as a turbo system, i have seen cars catch fire after few runs with turbos, also people seem to forget adding extra power means upgrading the cooling system and other internal parts, last one if car from factory did not come with Forced induction than it is not good idea to do it, i doubt VQ engine can handle 500+ on stock internals
@@kadinallan2436 uhh you're saying slapping turbo or supercharger on high boost and run it won't cause internal parts to break? The 370z transmission is actually decent
In a full race scenario where you would spend more time above 5000RPM you would simply size up the turbochargers. You lose a bit down low, but will gain it up top in trade. Plus, unlike a supercharger there will be no belt slip, especially at higher RPM.
Here's the simplest way to explain this. Turbos are far more efficient than superchargers, superchargers takes power to make power and usually runs a little cooler than turbos. Will modern technology now we have turbos with little to no turbo lag. Turbos usually will end up made more power than superchargers but at the end of the day it is the one with the deepest pockets will have the faster car. Turbos may be a little bit more expensive but the results will be night and day though.
Ive driven virtually everything. Ive yet to go in a turbo charged car that is fun to drive. Ive yet to go in a car that is supercharged that is not fun. Its night and day difference there is no comparison
Dang that was way better than most explanations on UA-cam. Thank you so much.
Thank you man for explaining everything exactly I supercharged my 2017 GT Mustang the car is a beast I enjoy every second of driving it. 👍🏼👍🏼
Whats the peak HP?
@@crazedbrazy617bh 700
Great video man, explained everything nicely.
So mice makes me wanna buy a 370z and slap a twin turbo on it
@@Pablo.Gutierre12 Yea, but for me I like to keep cars near stock, unless I get really attached to my car and keep it for a long time. Then I'll do big upgrades on it over time or restorations.
Nice job👍
looking forward to the install
Basically if you got stick go turbo and if you got AT go super
I got a stick I'm going super
It's up to which one you get a better deal on 😂 or tradition
Awesome Information thank you 🕊
I didn't see it mentioned, but after a couple decades of turning bolts one thing that has really stood out to me regarding aftermarket turbos (and apologies for stating the obvious) is that NO aftermarket kit/company can approach the testing/QA/QC you get with a factory boosted car. This is really obvious with the turbo manifolds. So many manifolds crack and consider how many people are actually daily driving their boosted cars?? OEMs design their boost to get beat on. Aftermarket companies have a FEW test cars.
Additionally, until somewhat recently, the ECU for aftermarket boost has always been inferior to OEM. We now have multiple options for very fast/realtime correction ECUs that are fast enough to save our motors. However, plug n' play solutions are still somewhat limited. If I were to add boost now, there is no way I'd use any ECU unless it was fast enough to use safeguards and save the engine.
Fast Intentions for the record. No cracked exhaust manifolds, period.
When I got a bigger turbo for my RB30 I got a custom high rise manifold made. I would not consider an off the shelf or postal map. You need a tuneable ecu and get it tuned by a competent tuner on a dyno.
Superchargers are definitely more linear and reliable than turbo chargers but turbo chargers give you more potential and the feeling of hitting boost in a turbo car is unmatched.
no lol, the feeling of turbo lag is not "unmatched" it's awful and i'd change over to supercharging in an instant if i could.
@@krebgurfson5732 turbo lag is barely real anymore man let’s be real
So basically a super charger will blast out the door but lose power on the big end if your racing and a turbo will lag out the door but wooo make crazy power on the big end so tie is are better for racing and super charger is good for just showing out and making dig outs . I’m looking to build a sleeper so I think turbo will
Be best for what I’m trying to do because we race a lot
Im planning to buy a 370z soon i wish i could turbo charge it later in life too
Hey, you might get the chance some day, never put it past yourself.
Nobody really tells you that centrifugal superchargers get all the lag of turbos without being connected to the exhaust. Roots and screw blowers though that's a whole different story instant power and torque.
im thinking about a supercharger since the z lacks in the early revs
And you debunk my myth lmao, what about running one turbo instead of 2?
@@txkingg you'd have more turbo lag if it's a larger turbo.
Best explanation on UA-cam I downloaded this video great job 😎🔥
Awesome video thank you
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$7k for 100hp is not worth it at all. Turbo is the way to go
Hi, is there any supercharge or turbocharge for Nissan VQ40 ? thx
Very helpful!
thank you
Thanks, but I'll keep it simpler with increased displacement and higher compression, along with lower vehicle weight. Someday I'll rebuild my VQ37 in my 370z with a 4.3 liter bored and stroked engine with a 12:1 compression ratio. 8'm currently getting about 380 peak crank hp with an intake, exhaust and tune.
Great video bruh.. Seems like your talking about TT VS SuperCharger.. Most ppl out here are not TT their cars.. So a SuperCharger will produce more power than a Single Turbo??
No. A big single turbo will spool slower than TT. This is depending on the size of turbos your working with. But if the two systems produce similar peak HP the TT system should spool quicker overall.
Thanks for the info... great video by the way
Should I get a turbo for my g35 then? Or a supercharger?
Yeet God supercharge it that’s wht imma go for
Is this reliable for the car tho ? Any damages to the car ? What do we need to switch out in order to be ready for supercharger?
Just better fueling, ie injectors and pump for low boost. High boost, most cars will need atleast stronger rods.. you will need a tune regardless of boost added
Thanks for the great breakdown and explanation man.
Buy Once, Cry Once. Fast Intentions hands down. The best system out there.
What’s that rally car that had both a turbo and super charger?
What about twin supercharger ?
so turbocharger thank you
Perfect
Great video man!
Great video, i just wanted to point out, in superchargers you have to replace the intake manifold with the supercharger, the supercharger is much safer on the car but not as effective as a turbo system, i have seen cars catch fire after few runs with turbos, also people seem to forget adding extra power means upgrading the cooling system and other internal parts, last one if car from factory did not come with Forced induction than it is not good idea to do it, i doubt VQ engine can handle 500+ on stock internals
Its not the engine, its the transmission
@@kadinallan2436 uhh you're saying slapping turbo or supercharger on high boost and run it won't cause internal parts to break? The 370z transmission is actually decent
@@al3zmi the transmission is going to slip because of the added torque before the engine goes out
@@kadinallan2436 lmao k
@@al3zmi bruh it’s been proven if you do enough research on VQ engines that transmission is what blows first
Great explanation 🙌🏽
Thank you!
Nice channel dude
Great video!
great video
In a full race scenario where you are changing above 5000 rpm the turbo will have less advantage.
In a full race scenario where you would spend more time above 5000RPM you would simply size up the turbochargers. You lose a bit down low, but will gain it up top in trade. Plus, unlike a supercharger there will be no belt slip, especially at higher RPM.
Are you in Jason’s garage from “engineering explained”? Is that his white board?!!! What have you done to Jason?!!!!
I'm dying 😂
The AAM twin turbo kit sucks. Where do you get all the BS from? You have a lot to learn.
K
Here's the simplest way to explain this. Turbos are far more efficient than superchargers, superchargers takes power to make power and usually runs a little cooler than turbos. Will modern technology now we have turbos with little to no turbo lag. Turbos usually will end up made more power than superchargers but at the end of the day it is the one with the deepest pockets will have the faster car. Turbos may be a little bit more expensive but the results will be night and day though.
Turbochargers are much MUCH better.
I’ll set up the super charger and let them catch up to me in the long run lol 😆
so essentially by the time the race is over between the two the supercharger will be faster lol
The problem is turbos go out he didn't mention that supercharger don't
And supercharger don’t cost less that’s turbo kits
Most twin turbo systems I've seen run for about 10k, supercharger kits aroubd 6-8k. A single turbo setup might fetch less, really depends on the kit.
You can hit 700whp on a supercharger though.
really
Darba Uchiha now its 900whp world record, lol
@@andywu8558 lol how much we gotta spend now?
Darba Uchiha like 20k lol
@@andywu8558 More than that. That price barely paid for that engine.
Ive driven virtually everything. Ive yet to go in a turbo charged car that is fun to drive. Ive yet to go in a car that is supercharged that is not fun. Its night and day difference there is no comparison
U don’t need to pull engine out unless if it’s a shitty twin turbo kit, this guy bro
Yes you do. If you aren't pulling the engine for fitment, you shouldn't be installing anything.
Turbos use the heat in the exhaust not the flow to turn the turbine.
Heat and flow is velocity. Without either you get nothing.