Fly Fishing Vintage, First Time On Bamboo - Wooly Bugged
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- This is the fourth video in a series where Michael Evanko fly fishes for trout with vintage fly rods. In this video, Evanko meets up with Nate Liscum (employee at The Feathered Hook in Coburn) and uses a bamboo fly rod for the first time. The rod used is not a high-end rod but rather a cheaper one purchased on eBay. This 7'-6" three piece rod was made in Japan in the 1950s and imported into the United States. The text on the side of the rod says Ted Sykes, Finest Tonkin Cane. If anyone has information on this rod, please share it in the comments below.
The body of water fished in this video is a tributary to Big Pine Creek, located in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania. This stream is with 150 yards of a state forest road, although the steep terrain may deter many from fishing it. The water temperature at the time of filming was 58 degrees. All of the brook trout caught by Evanko in this video were caught on either Chubby Chernobyl Ant or Parawulff patterns. The brook trout caught by Nate Liscum were all caught on a black Woolly Bugger.
The sound of the stream flowing over the rocks is all the music needed. Great video!
Mike, I’m really glad I found your channel. I really love what you do and how you do it. Well done!
No music makes this a superb video......thanks
Love your woods and creeks boys. I use a old 1940s bamboo Winston up here in montana picked it up at a garage sale for 5 bucks and rebuilt it best rod I have in my inventory. Thumbs up on video
People who put thumbs down should be ashamed! That's some amazing water and action!
Great video! It gives me hope for those little pools in the tiny streams we have up here in Central New York.
I also enjoy fishing for brook trout in small mountain streams. As much as I love dry flies, nymphs seem to always take larger fish. I always use a crayfish imitation in bigger pools or anywhere I feel a large brook trout might be. Brookies love crayfish!! Awesome video as always!!!
Craig C that’s good insight on the crayfish, wouldn’t have considered them.
When I was younger and kept trout, I always found crayfish in brook trout.....if they were over 9 inches it was essentially 100%........
Very nice video, thanks. One of my bamboo rods I use and like a lot is an Orvis Battenkill 7.5’ (1972 rod, I use a wf 5 line with). It’s a full flex rod. Good luck.
Hi Mike...another great video presentation. I love what you're doing. You tossed out the question about lighter, better performing bamboo rods. There are some lower cost, better performing bamboo rods available but, bamboo, by it's composition, is typically heavier than glass and graphite. Based on what I've read, Winther and Stoner (Winston), to remove weight, started creating hollow center six strip bamboo rods in the 1930s. Bamboo, by the nature of the fiber, has always been heavy and limited in the line sizes that match rods built with it. Glass rods, although lighter, have some of the same line limitations. This may be why graphite fiber rods stole the show in the 1970s and are still the choice for versatility and performance.
That said, I think we owe a debt of gratitude to Samuel Phillipe of Easton PA, who is credited with developing the six strip bamboo rod in 1848. As Keystoners, we have a rich heritage of fly fishers. You continue that tradition.
Doug Perrett this is extremely helpful information Doug, thank you for sharing!
Great video as usual, Mike. Please keep them coming. Anxious to see what vintage rod may be next!
Greg H. thanks for watching Greg!
This reminds me of a stream in WV I used to fish. Both really nice places.
Mike, As always, beautiful fish and beautiful environs. Looks like your buddy has a new passion and caught on quickly as well. I love your reaction to losing fish (I feel your pain) thanks for the great content. Also, great points in the comments capping the day. Thanks!👍🇺🇸
B Dickinson ahh those lost fish! Every time I miss one it’s exciting and frustrating!
New subscriber. Have started watching ALL your videos,I'm way behind but that's good, plenty to watch and entertain me for long time to come. I have watched my vcr's of Trout Unlimited over and over, I have em all nearly.Your channel is right up there with em,all you could ask for except more and longer. I thank you up front for your effort and the years of enjoyment, YEARS I hope, I will enjoy. I have several channels from different areas of the world I watch and except for football game or old western I have almost eliminated regular tv programming. Nothing Missed! LOVE IT MAN
rusty morgan hey Rusty! Thanks for taking the time to leave this nice comment, greatly appreciated. I’m glad you enjoy the videos, I enjoy making them. I remember VHS cassettes!
your bringing back good memories for me, back in 1979 i went to college in williamsport ,i fished on the weekends; trout run ,rock run,loyalsock creek and others. awesome filming and editing ;very interesting and hope you keep it up.
MCTREE 61 that’s great, that area of the state holds a lot of memories for me too.
What an absolutely gorgeous habitat and stream! Good job, fellas!
Absolutely love your videos. I travel to VT from PA twice/year to fish for wild brookies. Would be honored to have you along.
Brad Massilon when do you go to Vermont Brad?
Those landing nets look HUGE!!!😂
You boys had some fun .. great video
great video, I like seeing your dry fly action mike because you do so well with the camera setup. Really gives you a feel for where you're casting and adjusting to each time and where you're getting hookups in a given hole.. awesome!
T M thank you for the kind comment!
Another nice outing! For more info on bamboo rods and rods for sale check out "The Classic Fly Rod Forum" and you may want to pick up or check out John Gierach's Fishing Bamboo from the library or buy online. It's a short read but has a lot of good information from a fisherman's perspective. There are very good rods available for $400-500 for new from lesser known rod makers or used ones. I have read that you should stay away from eBay in purchasing bamboo rods unless you know something about the rods. A lot of people passing off junk that are not very fishable. You really take your chances. That being said I picked up a like new used 7.5ft.5/6wt. made by Bill Critchfield on eBay but I did some research on the Forum about him and his rods before taking the plunge. Got it for a little over $400 but his new rods run $800-900. It is my only bamboo rod, the rest are fiberglass. From the research I did from the forum and bamboo rod dealers(listed by the forum and in Gierach's book) you should expect to pay around $400 for a good rod. Happy hunting!
Dan Hewko very helpful Dan, I will look into the forum.
Great video! Really cant believe you dont have more subscribers. Your content is superb!
Joseph, I couldn't agree more!👍👍
I appreciate you watching Joe, thank you for the nice comment.
B Dickinson thank you!!!
@@WoolyBugged 👍
Checkout Headwaters Bamboo, they're becoming more popular and are reasonably priced. I've never fished one, but they look nice for the money. I'm getting back into glass, had a blast with a 6.5' Cabela's CGR (~$70) over the 4th on some small northern MI streams.
Fly Fish I’ll check them out!
Would love to get a vintage bamboo rod myself. Great video!
Scott Lowe thanks Scott, hope you get one!
Contact me!
Looks like a fun day on the stream. Ironic he was using the Wooly Bugger and you the dry, given the channel name. Very cool stream and the perfect time of year to be out on it. Keep up the good work!
Tight Lining MD that is ironic, hah, didn’t think of it that way.
Beautiful streams in Pa. I really enjoyed this one.
John Terebetsky, Jr thank you John!
Just a suggestion. When fishing Pennsylvania small freestone streams for brookies, smash your barbs. You can't keep anything under 7" anyway and barbs can really tear up small mouths. And you really can ditch the net.
His net is huge and the chest waders? Hahahaha 😆
Just had to add one more comment about vintage flies. I recently ran across the elk hair caddis, developed by PA fly tier Al Troth in 1957. That was 62 years ago and it is still a popular pattern. That’s longevity. The Henryville Special is another PA caddis pattern developed in the 1930s. They’re both good looking patterns. It would be fun to see PA Brookies eat them.
Just a thought...there are vintage flies like the Henryville Special, developed in Henryville PA for fishing the Broadhead. It might be cool to see a video with you using vintage ties.
Doug Perrett that’s a great idea, I’m going to do some research on that and consider it!
Doug Perrett Cool idea. The flies I remember from the 1950’s were Hendrickson, Light Cahill, Quill Gordon and Royal Coachman. I don’t think anyone fished subsurface back then except for swinging wet flies of the same names.
@@WoolyBugged a great resource for "historical" flies is local Pocono tyer Scott Cesari's "Pocono Patterns" page www.scottcesariflytying.com/pocono-patterns/. The Swiftwater pattern he describes there is a proven fly on our Pocono streams (a friend decided he needed to prove it after he found out about) in a size 14.
Great video
Shpookz _ thank you! I appreciate the comment!
The student becomes the master 😎. You might try Tenkara with one fly next time. Absolutely a blast. Nice vid 🙏🏻
Nice fishing. Bud..
Keep up the Hard Work...
Frankie Shoenfelt thanks Frankie, hoping the summer is treating you well!
@@WoolyBugged same to you.. Bud..
Little J has been fishing well..
Another great video. I've been watching your amazing videos for the last year or so. I have just recently started brook trout fishing in Lycoming county , I'm from there, and I have had great success . If you would like to fish some other streams in Lycoming county let me know. Keep up the great videos.
Steve Moyer hey Steve, thanks a lot, I might take you up on that some weekend. Can you shoot me your contact info to woolybugged@gmail.com?
Hey Mike, great footage out east there. Didn’t know if someone had already commented on this, but since you were only using that rod within a VERY close distance, you might try using it again when you can get at least 30 feet (maybe more like 50 feet) of line out. Don’t know if you’re using DT or WF but that first 30 feet is the same on either. May be the reason why the rod didn’t seem very flexible. My Dad and his father both fished bamboo (as well as my mother when I was young), and fixed and wrapped bamboo rods; they all fish very pure - slower action, full flex throughout - but noticeably different under 20-30 ft of line out.
good vid..one day might run into you at TCO..THAT BAMBOO..LOOKS REAL NICE..I WOULD KEEP FISHING IT.I have my grandfathers..should have took with today.and used a few times up at clarks creek above dehart dam..spent 6 good hrs up there.lots misses between bead head ph tail .and spin set up having only 1 spinner with.when flies fail.it helps make a good day.only caught 5 .everything else were misses..everything was just making 8 inch and to 5..brookie n browns..may re adventure
Jim R I’ve heard there are brookies up there. Are they wild?
@@WoolyBugged yrs ago.mb like 14 17and thats when the maintenance was up on the stream..log jams what not kept down...when stream was much better shape and all..there was quite. Few big brookies..course..i dont travel far and fast w back issue past 3 yrs.but i would have to say 3 the brookies i caught had to been wild.you take and head up thru Harrisburg..dauphin 322 and east on 325.look on maps.just passing upper end the dehart..you will see where stream is closest to the road there and up thru to the next 2 spots which is not far road wise.but am shur stream wise.its a good hiking about..they can be scattered about here and there..that or just not hungry to hit..you want a map where i go.an email i can send..would make a nice day trip..i would move cautiously due to rattlers..mb copper head..not seen any yet by the stream..but not surprised me..there is one area that has lots ferns you may catch a copperhead..i would take being they like damp i heard.who knows.many yrs ago seen a 11 yr old rattler on other side creek in the fly area.but i tend to like that challenge above dam
I also hit wyomissing this morn.....seen few trout..
great video guys!!
I can't get over how your brookies give you second chances at them; just got back from the Smokies, and as is typical, you get one shot at them.
Ian Jones in the good streams they do!
That looks like the perfect place try a tenkara rod. You're basically using the same technique. Nice spot! I have a tube of my great-grandfathers old bamboo rods and you've inspired me to break one out and use it sometime. Thanks!
If you use the same technique, you don't need to waste your money on tenkara. I've been fishing this method for years and never felt the need to switch. Just my opinion...
Hey Mike, I love fishing vintage bamboo. I just finished refurbishing one this spring that I saved from the trash 25 years ago as a kid. It was in a flood and was physically coming apart at the seams. I’ve had it out a few times this year and only caught 4 trout on it so far, but each one is special in a way I can’t describe. I was actually planning to film a native brook video with it this weekend if the weather works out so I was really excited to see your video this morning. As far as quality affordable vintage fly rods go so far my favorite is a Horrocks & Ibbotson. I have a Wright& McGill that I really like as well. The H & I can be found fairly easy and for around $100 on eBay. The Wright & McGill will run $300-$400. Hope to see more from you soon. By the way do you ever come over to WV and film?
Jared this is all really helpful information. Thank you for sharing some rod names. On rare occasion I make it down to WV to see some friends. I love it down there. Hopefully I can make it down in the early fall.
It never ceases to amaze me the large size flies these Eastern Brookies will attack. Here in the West we’re fishing size 18 and smaller for native trout. On a few remote streams they’ll hit larger flies but not many! I’ll be in the Sierras next week and have stocked up on pheasant tail and prince nymphs in #18-22 and dry fly midges in #22-24. I thought things were supposed to be bigger out West!
Can confirm - the bigger the better for eastern brook trout!
I would have thought the same thing!
And western Wisconsin........which this reminds me of also!
I picked up the same rod recently on eBay. I couldn't find much information online either, I actually thought it was a smaller maker out east when I bought it. After receiving the rod I questioned that assumption because of the script decal. I finally casted it today and it handled a 5wt line nicely, I'm not a bamboo expert but I wouldn't call it stiff at all for what I was doing. I think you just had way too much rod for your stream.
My friend gave me a barn find bamboo fly rod today...no markings but initials P.G.....looks like it's from the 40s. How would I find out what size reel to use.
Very nice videography
Great video once again Mike!!! Lol Hopefully me and you can get out and actually catch em one after another like this hahaha. This heat wave may force me to go for bass, which should actually be fun since I just got a new 8wt! Looks like your buddy had one heck of a time out there! My last trip out I almost had a 13 to 14 inch native take my dry! Was absolutely crazy! Saw me at the last second and got spooked!!!
Ill be back for him hahaha, tight lines Mike, and can't wait to get out there with you, and hopefully land a bunch! I'll let you pick the spot this time since mine didn't workout too well hahaha. Them bamboo rods look awesome and really fun to fish!
Now we like to use a 4 wt rod for brookies, graphite allows us to do that. Back before glass and graphite, in the age of bamboo, the most common line weight was a 6. Your best bet is to look for a "production" rod made by one of the big tackle makers from the 1940-50's; firms like Heddon, South Bend, Montague, & Horrocks Ibbotson. These can be had for less than 300 bucks, often much less. in general, shorter bamboo rods are more expensive than longer ones. So a 7.5 footer will fetch more than a 9 footer of the same make, all things being equal. I would highly recommend that you look on-line for a South Bend model 290, which is a 7.5 footer designed to handle either a 5 or 6 wt. Best wishes and thanks for another great video.
John Brundage this is great feedback John, exactly the info I was looking for.
@@WoolyBugged You're welcome. Another viable option is to look for a model called the "Tonka Prince," a bamboo rod once made by the Horrocks Ibbotson Co. of Utica NY. Tonka Prince is a 7 foot 2 piece rod which takes a DT5 line. Another HI rod was the "Tonka Queen," a 7'9" 2-piecer also for a 5 weight line. Both of these rods are generally well regarded by those who fish old-timey, blue collar bamboo rods. Along with the SB 290, these two HI rods are ideal for small stream fishing. Best of all, they can be had for less than $200.
I think I have that same rod hanging on my wall. It was my dad's first fly rod. Unfortunately it's partly taped together and the reel is completely rusted.
Alec Jensen that’s neat, do you happen to know where he bought the rod?
8:05 Gorgeous scenery! Wow!
Pear Fishing thanks you Pear!
I agree! Like a painting.
Nice spot😎👍🏼 Greetings from Germany🎣🇩🇪🎣
BAD Fishing BissAnschlagDrill thank you! I appreciate you watching from Germany!
Wooly Bugged yes i do👍🏼👀🎣✌🏻️
Used to fish a bamboo spinning outfit but the tip broke and that was that.
This weekend I broke the fly rod I built forty years ago right out of college. I'm devastated and don't want to build new ones anymore.
So, I've been researching bamboo and wanting to get back to that again. I'm looking for an 8' five weight so I can just put the reel I already have on it. They are expensive, but looking around I've found some places with discounts on them. How good they are I don't know. I'll find out.
at least get 1 more good day up there in hopes to pick off those missed ones.lol..but wild browns.I am deff soon due and thing wyomissing is going to be a target directly..mb tomorrow..I def need a good local stream thats easy access so to speak and get my fixes on a weekly basis this yr up till mid sept anyways..
how do you find these places?
What size fly are you throwing on the bamboo rod..cos that hook size looks huge
What camera and mic do yall use? If you dont mind answering of course?
go their in the fall the colors would br amazing
Agreed, I'm hoping to shoot a video with the leaf change this year.
Nice video. What size flies were you using?
Mike Smith that was Chubby with a #14 hook.
Great video! What's the setup your buddy is wearing on his neck? Looks slick.
Great video! Great experiment. How often do you come across snakes in those parts? When I’m up in those parts for turkey season I’m always on the lookout
I don't run into as many rattle snakes as one might expect. The one place that I have consistently run into snakes is up around Renovo, PA. Specifically around Hyner Run State Park, I can't tell you how many rattlers I encountered there.
God Bless brookies!
Wow, great video, such a shallow river, can catch fish so fast, your flying fishing technology is not ordinary, when flying fishing, is the river water flow segment also have to consider? I have research on fishing, I can share some brands with you, for example: tenkara, orvis, trident, trouts, maxcatch, you don't say, you know more than I know, haha, make a joke.
Great video, check out Baginski Bamboo Fly rods, the Evening Hatch Fly Shop sell the rods. I recently purchased a 6ft 4weight at a great price. Perfect size rod for the native trout.
mark kiesinger I’ll check them out Mark!
Have you ever tried a Tenkara rod? Seems it would be perfect for fishing streams like this one.
I do want to try one of those some day.
Nice video you guys did well. Regarding the rod, at those distances you can use a sapling with a fluorocarbon level line tied to the tip and do well, for small Brookie streams I use a Tenkara rod.
Michael Capurso ya still planning on doing Tenkara one of these days!
@@WoolyBugged Take a look at the Tenkara USA "Rhodo". Great rod, designed for those small streams.
Writing from Albany NY area, great content! Do you offer guiding services? I would love to check out some of these small streams sometime.
Lawrence Fowler please send your email info to woolybugged@gmail.com and I’ll be in touch.
What net are you using?
As usual, great footage, good fishing. This spring I purchased a 5wt Bamboo fly rod from Headwatersbamboo.com. Great rod, and these rods would work well for small steam fishing. I fish the tribs like you do for wild trout, and have used my bamboo fly rod, it is wounderful. The price tag ranges $400-500 with a excellent guarantee. I've landed 2" to 20" wild Brooke and wild Browns on this rod, it is one of my favorite fly rods, and I own 7 Orvis Graphite rods, which I have used over the years. Check out the site if you want a good bamboo rod without the heavy price tag.
Ron, thanks for this tip, I’ll check em out.
What wt line did you use bro??
Can I have a specific location of stream, really starting to get into fly fishing and am looking for a nice stream
it doesn't work that way
I have the same rod I purchased at a public sale. Post war Japan. The one I have is a combination fly spinning rod. It came with two tips and in the original cotton sleeve. I don’t like the balance of the rod for practical use. I prefer just to hang it on the wall.
greg newlin I think the one I own is going on the wall as well, lol.
Ever thought about tenkara on these small streams?
therealKerb yep, it’s something I plan on trying.
Wooly Bugged cool. Look forward to that video.
Great place. About your fly rod, how do you know what line weight to use if it is not marked on the rod?
Anthony Marcino I used the line rating that the seller provided when I bought the rod. How he assessed that, I’m not sure. Maybe just based on his knowledge of older rod ratings.
So are you going to fish for other species of trout on the channel or have you found your calling with the brook trout?
Dylan why do you ask?
Going up tiaoga county on the edge of lycoming this weekend do you know of any good tributaries up there?
Brick Bros check out Babb Creek drainages.
Great video man ! I’m from NJ and I’m planning on camping somewhere in PA soon to catch native brook trout on the fly, any good places that you know of ?
dominic nonnenmacher anywhere in Blair or Potter County.
Mike I live in Clinton county I know a native stream about 8 miles from my house that no one fishes there’s wild brook and big wild browns
skaterhk213 let’s fish it!
Wooly Bugged I’m off work Friday, if you want too then if not the next day I’d be able to is Monday March 9th
@@WoolyBugged if I gonna go with bamboo get ur self a silk fly line .You can make one for a very reasonable price
@@dariuswhite227 I’ll tell ya, I’d like to try fishing a silk fly line. What does that cast like? How does it lay on the water?
@@WoolyBugged silk fly line when casting will turn over in a flatter trajectory. I recently started building split cane flyrods and I was having the same problem the rod felt to stiff so I made a silk fly line and the rod was a night a day different .silk will even make the cheapest fly rod fill like a high end rod . In addition the line shoots better thru the guides and u don't get that whip cracking noise
just a quick question for ya man.. have you ever fished the little muncy creek?
ryan riddell no I have not fished the Little Muncy Creek. Is that a favorite of yours?
@@WoolyBugged it is it is! there is a spectacular wild brown and native brooke trout population. if you get a chance itll be worth your drive to fish
thanks sharing！I wanna know what's the brand the fly rod you use,I am using the maxcatchfishing's rod,it's ok!
Pacific Caselman in which video?
That bugger cleaned up. Was that a micro wooly bugger?
BrookieBum good question Nathan, I’ll have to have Nate respond because I didn’t look at his pattern close.
@@WoolyBugged water conditions you didn't have a chance with those dries..lol.
Not large, but plentiful. Typically streams of this size don't have a lot of food for trout. You might run across a lunker.
The post war Japan occupation bamboo fly rods were made for export. Many returning service members bought them when returning home. Generally the post war Japan rods were of poor quality and design. The rods are typically very heavy and stiff. The quality of the hardware was of lesser quality and the adhesives were sub par. IMHO these rods have absolutely no comparison to rods made by the bamboo master makers of yesteryear or with modern makers of today. Bamboo rods of today are made with better adhesives, lighter hardware and much better tapers. I think you'll see once you get your hands on a well made bamboo rod. Comparing the two I think you'll agree that the post war Japan rod deserves a spot hanging on a wall as a decoration while the other needs to be fished.
Always great videos yet....
Spoiled rotten fishing in "The Driftless".......
Kenneth Biebighauser thanks Ken!