Ashley Judd, reporter Jodi Kantor discuss Harvey Weinstein's conviction being overturned
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- Ashley Judd, the first to come forward with allegations of sexual harassment against Harvey Weinstein, and New York Times investigative reporter Jodi Kantor, whose reporting on Weinstein helped to launch the “Me Too” movement, discuss his 2020 conviction being overturned by New York’s highest court. Weinstein is continuing to serve a 16-year sentence for a separate case in California.
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"Courtrooms are not healing spaces, they are traumatizing spaces. And victims should not have to perform their trauma in order to find peace."
I have never experienced SA, but I felt this quote from Ashley Judd.
If they want justice then they have to. We can’t just believe them just because they said it
@Andrew_Warden Such powerful words from Ashley Judd, and they resonated deeply with me. As a 12-year-old almost 50 years ago I was sexually abused by my adoptive father during a weekend visitation. He claimed that I reminded him of my mother who at the time had separated from him and filed for divorce. That was the longest weekend of my life, and when I was safely home with my mother, I refused to go on any more court ordered visitations with my father. After being pressed by my mother as to why I was refusing to see my father, I told her what had happened. I had to see a child psychologist who advised my mother against pressing charges against my father, because his attorney would easily retraumatize me on the witness stand. Fortunately, the judicial system has made it easier for children to testify against their abusers, but I think it is still a traumatizing process to put any child through. I applaud the ones who are brave enough to testify, but I also feel empathy for those that choose not to face their abusers in open court. I wish them all peace and healing.
I'm still trying to find a healing space
0:39 Judging on the look on their faces I don't think they are happy.
Everyone has a right to face their accuser. That is how our system works.
We should ALL BE OUTRAGED. Amen Ashley! AMEN!!!!
😂😂😂…. This is what sexual abusers always say.
Ashley....thank you for having the courage to speak so frankly and eloquently. I am sick of the language of the abuse of men being softened and minimised. I've never heard it stated better... it's a theft of women's autonomy, dignity, time, peace of mind and safety.
Thank you CBS for not rushing through this segment and allowing a lucid conversation. The poignancy and power of "meetoo" is that EVERY woman has a story of assault or harassment. It's exhausting.
Amen sister, I should have kept a journal, starting at age 10.
Yes, I don’t think I know one woman that hasn’t been metoo one point or another in their life
Absolutely!
So true it just traumatizing to all women again and again
Words are powerful, that is what Ashley Judd is giving us in this interview. Much respect to her!
💯
Ashley Judd is always so well spoken. Really admire her.
Such a wise and caring woman 💙
“Most men are silent about other men’s sexual violence” 💯💯💯 and that includes child SA. And that is the crux of it folks.
Oh yes..enablers
Bless you Ashley Judd for your on-going courage and advocacy. Your contributions will be felt for generations . 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
It seems as though the courts do not follow procedures deliberately to let these creeps get away with horrible crimes. Our hearts go out to the victims. It is not justice for them.
Bingo
Thank you for coming forward on this Ashley. I agree with you 100% on your stand on this. This joker should stay where he belongs....in prison!
He's going to stay in prison for another conviction
The good thing is that he will still remain in jail to serve 16 years. He will probably pass before being released.
And he will spend eternity in hell.
What slap in the face to all women that have been abused
He didn't abused anybody, they did it willingly 😊😊😊
@@veliahernandez6945 always that one grapiest supporter. I feel sorry for the women in your life if they have to look to you for protection or testimony.
I can feel that slap
@@veliahernandez6945 Yeah, and later regretted when their careers fall...
50 years ago
Ashley Judd is so powerful and inspiring as an advocate; her words are so moving and searingly truthful
❤💔❤️
These are High Profile men, women, & children, being Silenced, abused, killed, tormented, on and on. Now just Think what an average working class person goes through. The Legal & Law Systems across this Earth, need to change.
Ashley is so poised and well spoken.
💯
And too much plastic surgery...
She is so well spoken. She’s a beautiful human being too.
@@paullooper1090 it could be medical don't judge
If he succeeds, he'll toss that walker to the side .... and be the poster predator for what more he can get away with.
Ashley’s voice is so powerful and cogent.
Except when being a ‘nasty woman’!
Bugs Bunny is the most polite wabbit ever !
Yeah 💯👏👏
Problem with Ashley is that she knew that girls under 18 who were interviewing for parts would be sexually abused or raped - and she did not warn them. She might have bailed out, but any responsible adult has a duty to report child exploitation to authorities.
@@mrcpaddler that's right. She never complained about cashing Movie Star checks either. "Me too" appeared to occur to some of these actors when "Me money" began to evaporate. Tragic that they were compliant at the beginning of the fame ride. Victims absolutely have embarrassment and shame. These are complicated situations and I'm not defending rapie Hollywood power players. This is not the life dream goal to have for Women or Men. Look at what Diddy Daddy Puffy Diddler has been accused of doing.
the judges were correct on the law, the DA pushed the limits when they had witnesses who were relevant for the charges.
yes
It shows his history with women which should have been accepted. So now he gets off for all of it?! This is not justice.
@@selecttravelvacations7472this is relevant for the court of public opinion but not for proper courts.
The courts seem to be unorganized, with judges not following procedures???😢
That seems to be going around a lot these days.
Law is based on what's written, what's been done before, and interpretation of those 2. With a 4-3 split, it seems it wasn't so clear cut
@@bananascoaster1243 The law and the constitution are clear cut, have been for hundreds of years. What's changed are the # of mentally ill in ALL professions.
Read the research on the "10 professions with the most Psychopaths"... unless and until these crucial postions are filled with psychologically healthy ppl, we will end up with a country in much greater chaos.
@denisebotko7456 so if the law and constitution are so clear cut, is the argument that we don't need any judges or lawyers?
When emotions are involved, there's going to missteps.
Ashely Judd ..... speak for all of us women, we need you!
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Yes, Ashley is an amazing woman, and an excellent actress whose acting career was destroyed by the sexual predator Harvey Weinstein. So glad she is speaking out and standing tall.
Speak for yourself @nancy!
In her eyes you can see the hatred towards all men.
@@DaveAlexKD She's seething
We've heard enough of Hollywood talkng about Harvey now that he's been imprisoned. He's no doubt guilty. Still, everyone deserves a fair trial, otherwise the same precedent can be used against innocent people.
@AFloridaSon Good point!
Totally agree, it's suck because of some mistakes on their part his conviction was overturned
@@VictorLomax He never shouldve been convicted of these particular charges.
Innocent people don't have hundreds of women eager to testify against them.
@@v2krpl37dh The testimony of women who were not connected to the New York conviction caused the guilty verdict to be overturned. I blame the prosecutors and the judge for sloppy legal work. I wonder why these women did not simply file their own charges to hold Weinstein accountable? I hope it brings Weinstein's victims some peace of mind knowing that he will continue to serve prison time for his conviction in California, although it must be distressing to see the New York verdict overturned. Weinstein has grown into an old, feeble, pathetic man, and I hope all his victims will find peace in knowing that he has been put away where he can no longer hurt anyone else.
For Anyone to FIGHT, so hard, to keep a Known serial rapist free, should themselves, be Followed, Investigated and scrutinized.
Thank you Ashley and Jodi.
I admire Ashley Judd tremendously. Such intelligence, strength, and clarity.
Hmm. 7 judges. 4 of whom were women. Ruling was 4-3. Thus one of the judges who ruled to overturn the conviction was a woman.
And???
It has nothing to do with gender, but fully based on comprehension and application of law.
Kudos to Ms Judd's candid reaction and measured explanation of how awful this problem is. When you have so many examples of predatory behavior, as in this case, I can see why it was brought in. Our system is failing us.
What a blow to have learned his conviction was overturned.
I'm sorry, if you can be charged with a crime 40 years (or more), after the fact why does sexual assault come with a time limitation?! It's complete and utter BS. 99.9% of victims across the globe do not receive any form of trauma healing during the time the mind and body is going through various levels of shock and trauma! Some victims carry this mental and emotional pain and suffering to their graves! Especially in cases where the victim was actually blamed for what occurred. These things are rarely discussed, and are hard to pinpoint if you are unaware of the victims history. Yet here we are with laws created to guarantee victims will not receive justice. It is outrageous.
Because these rules were made by MEN so long ago and they won't change them..That's WHY!
Our rights are used for us or against us as pawns🤔
Because sex= shame.
Because the legal standard is beyond a reasonable doubt. If someone can bring a case 20-30 years later, it is much less likely documentary evidence and other witnesses testimony exists. Evidence and memories fade. You would just be convicting purely on someone’s word alone and nothing else. That may not be conforming with the standard beyond a reasonable doubt. That gets much closer to an authoritarian regime, where you are purely guilty by accusation and nothing else. Examples of innocent men sent to jail over rape accusations: bryan adams, duke lacrosse team.
The statute of limitations are rules that were set by men, and they favor predators who are mostly men. It such a horrendous crime that there should not be a statute of limitations.
Thank you for coverage. Excellent Ashley Judd. We indeed need institutional courage for the epidemic of sexual violence. Courtrooms are not healing...so true. Onward.
Ashley, you have to admit there are actresses that didn’t mind putting up with HW to further their career, as sad as that is.
I'd also like to say that this situation doesn't just happen with men... women abuse their power as well... read the book "women that hate other women." I and many other's had their lives tortured by corporate women... lives were ruined and careers were detrailed b/c of the abuse of power... thank you.
She nailed it when she said "men" don't call out "men". This covers guns as well. Men are silent.
Do you call out criminals? Carjackings? Are you woke?
Most men would.still be in prison harvey weinstein has money and Jewish privilege that what got him our jail
@proud I work with males every day in the courtroom who call this out and prosecute it
johnny depp being hailed a victor by all men in hollywood
@@joemorris2886 I do. In fact, I say this quite often that "men", not all, are the world's biggest problem.
Ashley Judd you are my shero! you speak so poignantly. thank you for speaking for all of us! we need to keep watch and keep fighting to keep him in jail
"my shero" 😭
Thank you Ashley Judd!!!! This whole thing is ridiculous and an insult. What a shame on our judicial system.
I just love Ashley Judd. She’s so smart. I hope she comes back to the big screen soon
woman having higher rates of ptsd than our veterans , shocks me .
It's not very shocking. It tracks correctly. Women navigate a battlefield everyday in this Man dominated world.
@@khismetI’m not shocked at all. That said, “me too” is a horrific place to be …ever…in this life. 😥😰😱
@@ziggy33399 Using a battlefield as an analogy for why PTSD is present in women is nowhere near to a real wartime battlefield that have men suffering PTSD. Usually expressed differently in the genders
@@Joey-te1uy I’m not an expert. At all. But if women have higher rates it doesn’t mean it’s any less. It’s still PTSD!
@@Joey-te1uy and war, by the way, isn’t the ONLY PTSD out there .
Ashley and Jodi, as one of the millions of victims of this type of assault, I thank you for stepping forward to clearly explain the intricacies and nuances of the "Appeal" Court decision. The courts are misogynist and actively so. Yes, Jodi, women suffer the cPTSD (and from horrible domestic violence) much more than the men.
Years later, the first thought in my head upon awakening is a reliving of the five incidents and the balled-up fist brutalizing me. This is my first time saying this out loud, online, and I hope other women persevere and come forward while benefiting from counseling.
You just took a big, brave step. Keep going. The relief that comes will be worth it. Stay strong. You’re obviously a survivor at heart.
@virtualselfie6899 I am so sorry to hear of your horrible experiences, but I hope you are now in a much better place and benefiting from counseling. I believe in the power of uniting with other victims of abuse to establish a support network of others who have suffered similar trauma. It's a club no one would ever join willingly, but the sisterhood and bonds that form provide an invaluable bubble of healing for those that have been victimized. I wish you peace and healing in your own personal journey. Stay strong!
@@lisalivingston6473 Thank you for your healing support which is a lifelong project. You never forget the balled-up fist. I moved thousands of miles away. The "funny" thing is everyone thinks this guy is great, wrote him up in the newspapers, and don't even know that I was wife No. 1 and what he did behind closed doors. Not growing up with that kind of violence, I tried to figure out for years how I "attracted" it. There is never any excuse for this felonious, life-threatening behavior, most of which still goes unreported. This was a very important interview on this news channel and all 4 interviewers approached the topic very professionally and empathetically. Many blessings to you as well!
Okay, gotta call some BS on something you said. Claiming the courts are misogynistic is just not supported by facts. If you're talking criminal courts women are routinely handled with kids gloves where a man facing similar charges would be hung out to dry. How many female school teachers molesting children only to get probation or even community service do we need to show that isn't the case. Family/Divorce court is even more favorable to women, and that is such common knowledge I won't bother with examples.
Yes, it can be rough for a SA victim to testify, and I applaud those with the courage to do so, but that hardly qualifies as labeling the court system misogynist. If anything our court system would probably be mysandrist.
@@virtualselfie6899 I feel bad when victims of abuse blame themselves for "attracting" it. You did nothing wrong. No man has a right to ball-up his fist and hit his wife. You were right to protect yourself by moving miles away. I hope the distance provided you with a sense of security and safety. I feel bad for women who have children with abusive men and are forced to continue interacting with them for the sake of the children, i.e. visitation, managing child support payments that may come late or not at all, etc. My best friend married an abusive man and had a child when he gave her a black eye. I urged her to leave him, but she felt financially trapped in the marriage because he forced her to pay half the household bills even though he earned twice as much as she did. I encouraged her to hold her ground and only contribute what she felt she could while saving some money for herself in case she decided to leave him. Around that time her mother died and left her some money. I'll never forget the day she asked me to help her and her child move out. We spent 6 hours moving her things into an apartment while he was at work. It was the scariest 6 hours of my life, because I felt certain he would come home early from work and go berserk. She still had to deal with him in managing visitation and child support for their daughter, but she got therapy, and with the help of family and friends she was able to cope and eventually thrive. I wish you peace and happiness as you continue your own journey to healing. Stay strong!
Ashley has had her whole face changed.
Ashley Judd - so powerfully well spoken. My heart breaks for all women, and all men who also hate this kind of institutionalized brutality and misogyny.
The attorneys and judge clearly messed up. He should be in prison. However, he DESERVES, like everyone else, a fair trial WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POPULARITY or HATRED IN THE MEDIA.
Ashely I so appreciate your fiercely compassionate voice for healing. And Jodi for perspective on the trend!
Important point made by Judd stating that the courtroom being a place of trauma for victims....even for those who have to testify. Police get used to this, but for most people, is too difficult. Reason to continue on this case with other court actions........doubt he will get out of prison......
His conviction was rightfully over turned due to rule 404 in criminal procedure. “Evidence of a crime, wrong, or other act is not admissible to prove a person's character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character.” EVEN though a BAD DUDE - no one want prior acts to come into their trial. A person must be tried on the charges they are charged with ONLY.
Ashley is so well spoken!
Great points, Ashley! Sorry you have to keep dealing with this, but thank you for speaking up for women whom are not able to or are not listened to. You are clearly very knowledgable and this trauma therapist appreicates you! Women should never stop fighting in this ridiculous patriarchal world but take care of yourself, too.
Years ago I was a bartender in Lexington, KY. One random weekday about 3pm, Naomi Judd came in by herself and met a man in the upstairs bar. She was so beautiful! Tiny, polite, and distressed. Was he her lawyer? Accountant? Tax man? They drank iced tea. I worried about her for 20 years.
Ashley,God bless you ,You are 💯 percent Wright God Bless
Ashely Judd is a badass woman!! I hope that monster is not set free . To my fellow men lets stand up when we hear or see bad behavior .
Procedural mistakes, that doesn’t take away the feelings of injustice these women are feeling. I think the point is that institutional misogyny is pervasive and a mindset that’s so set. So many people don’t report abuse because what follows can be as just traumatic, if not more so, than the abuse itself.
Facts dont care about your feelings. Female feelings have caused worlds of trouble just in the past 5 years alone. Your "feelings" have literally doomed society.
Just a rich predator getting away with crimes. Horrible person.
Predator
This is why the media shouldn’t sensationalize trials like this.. it makes it impossible to have a fair trial so of course they get thrown out whether he is guilty or not
Ashley is so eloquent, so intelligent. She’s a leader where there are often none.
The courts are to blame. Everyone does deserve a fair trial. It should have been done from the beginning, so they do not come back with an excuse to let a guilty man get away with such serious crimes. Much justice and support to the victims. .
Strange how Ashley Judd mom passed with her
Ashley Judd is an exceptional representative for SA survivors. It's awful that she has to keep stepping up but we're lucky that she does
Why isn't someone's character relevant? Absurd to omit this testimony of people that suffered at his hands! So sick of these creeps, crooks and grifters getting away with all of these horrific actions. Time to revamp the law!!!!
Ashley Judd is truly amazing, thank you.
Thank you for being strong when so many can’t!
Ashley Judd is so eloguent. Her comments are always compelling. One of her hobbies is reading French novels, so she must be very intelligent. Sorry she has endured so much lately.
You can’t break the law and stack on just because your want to convict someone. This is a process! A legal process and when that process gets jeopardize you have results like this. Ashley is emotional about it. This is legal! Not emotional!
And both women they were able to get Harvey on ADMITTED having a consensual relationship with?!! I mean…. Cmon!!!!!!
Are you talking about America?
This situation is similar to women getting the vote. Many women had to get together. I believe Woodrow Wilson finally helped women the vote. Perhaps a person could persuade Biden to act in our behalf.
But, what would you expect in a Patriarchal society.
This is clear testimony to facts that we the victims have no rights in reality!
I’ve loved Ashley Judd since I saw her in Double Jeopardy. Great actress and is still so gorgeous 🫶🏼
Last time I saw him he acted like he could barely make it with a walker.
Thank-you Ashley and Jodi and brave women everywhere who are able to speak up and speak out and for all women who cannot ❤ We see and stand with you ❤
Put him under the jail oh yeah that won’t happen because all these politicians and judges are in on it and run cover for these evil people
The LA conviction is also on life support since the jury was allowed to hear he was convicted in NY, which was now vacated
Ppl are pi$$ed that Harvey Weinstein is getting a new trial in NY-
Evidence is a course in law school. Evidence is one of the few law school classes that helps you prepare for both the bar exam and for the actual practice of law.
It governs fairness in a trial.
Questions for the outraged re: their thought process:
1.) Do the ends justify the means in your mind?
2.) Is it okay for judges/prosecutors/courts to violate evidentiary rules to gain a conviction?
a. Would you want it done to you, or your family?
3.) Is it acceptable for attorneys/judges to ignore what they were taught in law school?
4.) Is it possible to win a case without violating the Rules of Evidence?
She is so eloquent and powerful in her way of expressing herself--she is a true inspiration to me.
"Most men are silent." That's a(n educated) guess! What I know firsthand is that a woman will protect a man, if they are close even if he is a predator. Just watched it play out in real time.
Prior bad acts are allowed to be presented at trial in many countries if it shows a clear pattern of behaviour.
I understand how angry Ashley is and should be. However, the ruling doesn't exonerate Weinstein's guilt, but prosecutors have to follow the law, procedure and protocol. Several criminals are being released based upon overzealous prosecutors over reaching. This happened with the Bill Cosby case and now Weinstein.
Sounds like someone else we know -- the chorus of women's voices talking about sexual abuse/harassment. I agree with Ashley Judd -- it's never over!
Thanks Ashley jude truth well said.
Women have more pts than veterans..WOW!!!!!! I've never heard that. Thats POWERFUL
....and BS!
I’d really like to see the data on that statement
The sad & tragic thing about this is that there will be another trial and he will be found guilty but women will have to step forward and go through this again. So they will be traumatized again. I hope this does not stop survivors to decide to remain silent.
Well said ladies. Bill and Harvey have a special place waiting for them both. It's very hot there. Jeffrey will let them in the the door. Bless all the survivors. And may we all continue our healing journeys.
NY Judicial system is a compete joke. From the Trump trials to this
I want criminals convicted, but I want it done by the rule of law, not b/s convictions... didn't your parents ever teach you to play fairly, to win fairly and not cheat to win, to get a conviction. Someday a rouge justice system will effect you or someone you love... learn to see the big picture, this is NEVER about just one person.
We don't have a country if the laws do not apply evenly to everyone. I am tired of emotionally disturbed ppl throwing our country into chaos...
I would have like more information on the legal basis for overturning this as opposed to well, this...
Looks like @AshleyJudd should be speaking out against bad cosmetic face-lift surgeons and adverse effects of botox as well!
This is so heartbreakingly true for almost all women and men don't understand how guilty they are for knowing about it and doing nothing and a lot for making jokes about it and normalizing it
Unbelievable
They're called prior bad acts that illustrate a pattern of conduct. A criminal should never benefit from evidence that he/she committed other similar crimes he/she was never charged with or held accountable for.
I love Ashleys dress.
I love your strength 💪🏾 ❤ we are with you ❤️🙏🏽. Please don't give up ❤
The law needs to be reflected the times and allow to show a propensity of a pattern of behavior.
Maybe next time, audition for roles vertically instead of horizontally...
No means NO in any position….. He is a PREDATOR !!!!!!!! NEXT TIME, KNOW THE EVIDENCE.
Yes, many women go along to get the role.
This is why women don’t come forward.
This sucks so much and I hate that I understand the judge’s legal argument.
The law is the law!!!
He is vile. He will continue to serve his jail sentence.
Reportedly, 16 years more, probably until death.
😢 I can’t believe that they let him out of prison. Why put everybody through what they had to go through testifying in court just to let him out again sorry Ashley that this happened to you and I’m sorry for the You had to go through and are still going through. I’m so sorry.
He is still behind bars and will serve at least 16 more years.
Isn’t the motto of a reporter that you never want to become the story of the story you’re reporting? Jodi Kantor thinks differently with “she said”
Whoever called the cops on their relative for flashing at an intersection is afraid of women!!!! Crazy!!
I so respect Ashley!
Yeah, she is great. Great actress and a great advocate. Only thing I wish she had not done, is go down the plastic surgery route.
@@bereal6590 Agree At every age mother nature knows best. She's a natural beauty.
@@bereal6590 Well, that's none of my business.
@@joyslove3858 agreed, she didn't need to change anything
Harvey weinstein will spend the rest of his life in jail in california. You and the other women did a great job bringing this to the attention of the court.
Why were they in his presence ?????? Fame and money!!!
Same lawyer for two despicable monsters... I wonder how many women he himself has mistreated to uphold these kind of values and fight for them on such extreme cases of misconduct.
What's with the esoteric triangle in the circle?
I was thinking the same thing!
It is the Recovery symbol from AA. Thus, not so esoteric.
@@anmnou thanks
Its almost like if they followed procedure and remained neutral during the trial he would have gone down with out any way for this to happen