Dropout, or more specifically Game Changer, is just Sam's long term audition to become The Riddler in the DC Universe. Nobody else can identify a weakness and skewer it as well as he can.
54:30 gave the exact parameters for the inevitable Dropout-Nebula collab. Brennan takes 4 key Nebula creators and 2 Dimension20 veterans through an 8 episode mini-campaign. Boom. Sam Reich please love me.
Subscribed to Nebula for JetLagged, and Dropout for Dimension 20, and it gave me so much more joy and content than any of my Netflix/Disney/Paramount crap.
I’m a member/supporter of the dropout youtube channel (not the streaming service) and so I think Sam’s assessment of it as primarily the content itself really holds. Dropout is not a streaming service but a premium content production company WITH a streaming service.
at 52 min, Sam brought up how the future might be beyond "game / panel show", but me and my friends grew up LOVING british panel shows (we're from the US) cuz they provided a refreshing comedy improv that just does not exist within the scope of American humor. I say to sam, you're providing something needed, and lets keep diving in! love dropout to death.
When Dave Wiskus said at about an hour and a half that "this episode is probably gonna be the most listened to all the way through" I laughed really hard. Us Dimension 20 fans are commited.
"All those subscribers, giving money just to watch you?" I know it was a joke, but this is like, half true. Sam's enthusiasm for everyone on GameChanger makes you feel it too.
My favorite is that Sam/Dropout used to have a text service you could subscribe to for announcements-but it was also an inbox that Sam himself would check and respond to. He’s probably far too busy and has far too many fans for it to be feasible anymore, but talk about grassroots organic audience outreach. A huge encouragement to watch their content as it released was Sam personally thanking me by name for doing so.
I still have that number in my phone as "Sam Reich!" I just checked the conversation history, and on April 3, 2020, I texted it saying "turn Game Changer in The Sam Reich Weekly Sound Effects Show you coward." Then I apologized for calling him a coward. I'm going to use the conversation as proof that I had a hand in creating Make Some Noise.
Dude, it's blowing my mind that Sam Reich and Robert Reich are related. I have so much respect for Robert's work, its crazy that they would be related.
Genuinely, as a fan of Nebula and Dropout, I think it would be very interesting to see them do work together. And there is some overlap, some of those who are writers and actors at nebula have shown up on 'Um Actually', Maggie Mae Fish being the first example I could think of. But I've no real idea how that would take shape. Considering the recent experiments with the Survivor spoof and Dirty Laundry, I could see them easily being slotted in there, intellectuals put through meat grinders designed for comedians. But that feels more like a 'here's a bad idea' concept, than something workable.
Make sure you get the bundle with Curiosity Stream. Still breaks my brain one can support Nebula creatives, and get a bunch of great documentaries for under $20 a year.
1:12:15 *brain flashes back to that episode of Game Changer where the point of the episode was to get the contestants to unionize without doing it consciously*
What a lovely conversation! Good call on having this be the episode most listened-through, you two flowed really well together and I’m looking forward to seeing more in the future!
Hearing goofy creators talking seriously and candidly about their business is pretty wild to me. I've had this experience before, but it is still crazy that a person can be both. It's not exactly what I need, but I feel I need to learn a fairly close skill, and I'm having a real hard time
[board meeting, interior, afternoon, the blinds are pulled down halfway as a projector is on] "Thanks for that Dave, very interesting findings about our demographics on social media. Up next is Sam who will be telling us about a new show he wanted to pitch... Sam?" [everyone looks around, Sam appears to be missing] "Huh, I guess Sam's running late. We can circle back at the e--" "Actually, *_I've been here the whole time ✨"_*
@@Imperial_Squid "So, you all know what we're doing here, right?" "What do you mean? I guess we're here to hear your pitch? What's going on?" "That's right, our investors have no idea what they're about to play..."
Oh man! This was really great, but funny to hear Sam and Dave both completely miss the mark on Twitch or "watching" people play video games! It definitely is about a social experience, but not primarily based on loneliness. There's certainly a portion of the audience that may consume it in that way, but a lot of us had group gaming experiences growing up that did *not* involve only waiting for the controller to be passed to us. I know groups of friends who would play Zelda together with everyone just chiming in to help solve puzzles, or cheer their friends on. Look at the Scary Game Squad. Sure, we're watching them play - but they are simply playing together. Only one of them ever runs the controller for an _entire_ game, but they're hanging out enjoying the game together anyway. The core of Twitch viewing is exactly that, except we're just not in the room. Maybe my experience here is different from the majority, I can't really say, but I've always viewed it as hanging out with a friend. Even on UA-cam it's enjoying the entertainment of the person playing, with the game simply providing a medium.
The end of your comment kind of shows their point, even though they don't quite get it. You call it hanging out with a friend, but a streamer or youtuber is not your friend, it's just a parasocial relationship
It's also a combination of interest in the game but a lack of interest in actually playing it - I'm a younger sibling so my childhood was spent watching my older brother play games and now that's the primary way I enjoy gaming content lol. Plus I'm disabled/neurodivergent so the games I genuinely want to experience, I can't physically play so I watch other people do it for me! I watch a decent amount of let's plays from a curated number of creators that play the way I would play if I could, with lots of attention to lore and world building.
I’m in music management for a career and I can’t thank y’all enough for this discussion. I really think that content creators are innovating and rebuilding how all media should be approached from a business side. Thanks guys
Re: the Video Game "Let's Play" genre - I grew up liking video games, but for some reason, I was always very bad at playing them and could never get past relatively early levels, so the only way I could actually see what the rest of the game was like was to watch my older brother play. That's the appeal of "Let's Play" videos for me.
Amazing to hear so much about two of the three truly independent subscriptions I've kept paying for after dumping nearly every other subscription I had. 3rd in mind, I would love to see one of these with Floatplane's Luke Lafreniere, especially to hear more nerding out about building out an in-house streaming stack!
This was a great interview. Investing in creators instead of shows is incredibly insightful. At that, Sam, pleeeeease let the guests on Dirty Laundry plug their stuff BEFORE the game starts. Its hard to care about people i dont know anything about. And the show is about those people soooo.....
I've been subscribed to Dropout for about 6 months. I think my partner and I watch it more than any other streaming service besides UA-cam. It's nice to have a place where anything I turn on will be high quality stuff that makes us smile. Highly recommended.
The two best and most consistent streaming apps are Dropout and Nebula. Im not a super big "industry" interested guy, but this was such a fun and interesting podcast-thing to listen to. Y'all are legendary, keep up the amazing work!
As someone in marketing, specifically organic social, the nuggets on sincerity and farming are exactly what I’ve been trying to articulate the past couple months! 🥰
I feel like the part of the conversation where they talked about how much of life you keep private and make public really stuck with me because of the “Sam where are you from” joke in Game Changer Battle Royale. It was cool to see how a passing joke can have that much deeper significance in regards to how a business is run.
On the note of watching video games. Personally I like watching people play games that I'm playing so that I can experience someone else playing the same game as me and learn stuff together.
Wow - love love this interview! Lots of love for the college Humor team and their Dropout shows. You should have Marty Micheal on - he runs Headgum Podcasts and I've seen him talk about creator focused stuff before!
I love you both because you are so unapologeticly you. Nebula beings me my long-form videos on deep subjects, and dropout lets me be the nerd I am ❤ never change
The discussion of value is really fascinating and those ideas are 100% why I subbed to both of these platforms. Nebula had creators I enjoyed and wanted to see more of (plus the Curiosity Stream bundle as Sam from Wendover discussed recently) while Dropout had shows like Um Actually, Game Changer, and Dimension 20
Re: Cooking Shows: one of the main things about cookings shows is that it approaches a problem with an eventual goal. You know where the path leads but everyone might go down it differently.
What a fascinating conversation. I hope you can both find the balance between keeping your personal life private and content like this endearing both of you even more to your audience.
Okay, this was fascinating! This was not where I was planning for the algorithm to take me today, but I'm glad I watched. And hearing Sam talk about the crazy ideas they have up their sleeves made me really happy. I love the shows they have now, and would love to see more variety both in content & in faces.
I've seen Dave in Patrick's videos, but I've never watched this channel until now. And I watched all the to the end, cause I really appreciate the Shakespeare episode of Game Changer. So much so I've grown to really appreciate Sam as a person who makes me happy with all the fun he can barely contain in shows and encourages really ballsy creative moves. I'd encourage anybody who hasn't tried Dropout, to take the challenge to watch that episode and not be hooked on Game Changer. Also the first episode is on youtube and is really hooks you to want more.
So the thing about the dropout discord is it survives by being consistently ruthless. The mods and the users are all aware that rule 1 is “don’t de a dink” and they will defend against anything that even smells somewhat of dink to the death with no quarter given and no negotiation. On the one hand this does stifle expression and creativity within that discord but it also makes a super safe space, so quite the opposite of UA-cam comments. For me, as a person banned from that discord, it leaves a sour taste but I still have the various subreddits I can engage with. Sure, I would appreciate the opportunity to switch from dropout proper to a UA-cam membership so I can get in the comments but this is how they run it and, at the end of the day, I’m here for the content I love so I stick around
They also did a trial run of lighter hands on the reins in the beginning so mods and community both have memory of what letting dinks run a little freer looks like. Much as I loved the lgbt+ channel, it’s a good thing they scrapped that idea. Couldn’t go a week without some friction or other. Good luck getting in the comments some other way ^_^
UA-cam and the media in general has made me cynical about online content, but I really do feel strongly that you guys need to make it for independent media to survive as a concept.
Huge sidenote: but I really like the framing you used and how the smaller view cuts of where the screen starts. It's almost like it's two different views but with the same camera
It's interesting that I'm watching/listening to this show not because of Nebula, but because I remember Dave as a self contained UA-camr. It feels like I'm a lil bit out of place but on the other hand I'm interested.
Video game stuff is easy. I’m the same age as y’all and I watch let’s plays. You can watch someone play a game WHILE playing a game. It’s like having a very personalized show/some companionship related to your current activity.
14:00 100% If you were to take a month vacation and your team falls apart without you, you are a bad leader. You need to lift people up to a place where those beneath you could run your area "on autopilot" if need be, which means delegating and training people to replace you. Failure to do this is also a huge reason why business owners often get a fraction of what the company is worth when they sell it to retire. The company isn't worth shit if it needs you to function and you're leaving. 24:45 Exactly.
I respect Dropout and Nebula so, so much and gosh I hope they make it in this bleak capitalistic world. The Dropout Discord is one of the best thing I've been in!
Only 15 full time DropOut employees? Does that mean creators on DropOut (like Brennan Lee Mulligan or Lou Wilson or Siobhan Thompson) aren't considered full time employees?
Pitch for a show: Pitch Your Show! You have a panel of showrunners in a room and they are pitched show ideas. They pick so many to be produced as a single episode. End of the season viewers vote on which one gets produced into a season.
56:08 its so popular at least with me is it is good background noise bc of my adhd i need something stimulating enough for me to do things. And video games being enjoyable watching is the same reason sports are popular.
I'm so glad he said the thing about watching video games vs playing. I totally don't get it coz yeah growing up watching was not fun because you were just waiting to play yourself
I made the similar comments about video games content with actual play content. What's the point about watching other people play a game I could play myself? The difference with Critical Role and Dimension 20, is that they are entertainers. And they add in the chops as actors and improvisors that make it fun to watch. With video game videos, the stuff I see as most relevant and useful and enjoyable to watch deals with two things. Ability to play the game well, and ways to make that entertaining. So, sports. People that post speed runs. Or how tos. Tutorials for how to do complex things in creative are incredibly useful for so many games. Which leads to watching content creators who are just legitimately really good at the games they play. Watching someone play creatively can lead toe trying similar things in my games. Then there are creators like Spiffing Brit that value entertainment and creativity first and foremost.
😈 Instead of a happy collab creators from Nebula and players from Dropout compete Hunger Games style. Lindsay Ellis v. Brennan Lee Mulligan creates the arena. Mike Trapp would be a great announcer rabbit trailing into the weeds while Adam Conover corrects him.
I have an idea Dropout x Nebula Do a round table discussion where they watch sizzle reels of each others work prepared BTS and have everyone’s be very professional except edit Brennan’s to be completely full of his most over the top moments.
![Adam and Eve Broach an Open Relationship | Make Some Noise [Full Episode]](/img/n.gif)
Now that the curiosity stream deal has ended, I would buy a nebula/dropout bundle in a heartbeat
For the Nebula x Dropout project: Brennan Lee Mulligan gets a bunch of nebula creators and dropout cast together for a hidden camera LARP show
that could be so funny
Brennan Lee Mulligan joins JetLag for a season. This would be epic!
oh my god that would go so hard
I would so watch that!!
Shut up and take my money.
Dropout, or more specifically Game Changer, is just Sam's long term audition to become The Riddler in the DC Universe. Nobody else can identify a weakness and skewer it as well as he can.
I feel like if you put legaleagle and Brennan on an epiaode of Um Actually together, theyd either become best friends or fight to the death.
Um Actually, with Nebula creators would be a great and easy crossover.
This!!
I thought you were about to correct something they said with those first two words 😂
There's probably also a way to have Jet Lag as an episode of Game Changer, with the actual Jet Lag people as guests.
oh nice looking forward to listening. i'm a huge fan of dropout
Very cool to be watching a good discussion between creators you like, then look in the comments and immediately see one from another creator you like!
ALL the best creators are fans of dropout, notable examples also include Tom Scott and Hank Green :D
For the record, Dropout could just be Sam charging me for Sam Reich content. I would pay it gladly.
54:30 gave the exact parameters for the inevitable Dropout-Nebula collab. Brennan takes 4 key Nebula creators and 2 Dimension20 veterans through an 8 episode mini-campaign. Boom.
Sam Reich please love me.
I was thinking more a Jet Lag themed Game Changer episode
Subscribed to Nebula for JetLagged, and Dropout for Dimension 20, and it gave me so much more joy and content than any of my Netflix/Disney/Paramount crap.
So true
Same
I’m a member/supporter of the dropout youtube channel (not the streaming service) and so I think Sam’s assessment of it as primarily the content itself really holds. Dropout is not a streaming service but a premium content production company WITH a streaming service.
at 52 min, Sam brought up how the future might be beyond "game / panel show", but me and my friends grew up LOVING british panel shows (we're from the US) cuz they provided a refreshing comedy improv that just does not exist within the scope of American humor. I say to sam, you're providing something needed, and lets keep diving in! love dropout to death.
When Dave Wiskus said at about an hour and a half that "this episode is probably gonna be the most listened to all the way through" I laughed really hard.
Us Dimension 20 fans are commited.
Being a dropout fan means that when I saw this video was ending, my first thought was "well that was short".
"All those subscribers, giving money just to watch you?"
I know it was a joke, but this is like, half true. Sam's enthusiasm for everyone on GameChanger makes you feel it too.
My favorite is that Sam/Dropout used to have a text service you could subscribe to for announcements-but it was also an inbox that Sam himself would check and respond to. He’s probably far too busy and has far too many fans for it to be feasible anymore, but talk about grassroots organic audience outreach. A huge encouragement to watch their content as it released was Sam personally thanking me by name for doing so.
that is so cool. and one of the reasons i love dropout - everyone in their cast is so relatable and funny, it feels like hanging out with friends
I still have that number in my phone as "Sam Reich!"
I just checked the conversation history, and on April 3, 2020, I texted it saying "turn Game Changer in The Sam Reich Weekly Sound Effects Show you coward." Then I apologized for calling him a coward. I'm going to use the conversation as proof that I had a hand in creating Make Some Noise.
He is still doing that in the dropout discord
Dude, it's blowing my mind that Sam Reich and Robert Reich are related. I have so much respect for Robert's work, its crazy that they would be related.
I'm glad I'm not the only person who learned that here.
Ya he’s his dad. Also his brother Adam is a professor at Cambridge. His family’s got some big names in it.
@@ozymandiousrex7155 whats the episode? :D
@@WhatEverComesToMlnd I believe they're talking about "Do I Hear $1?", ep 2 of season 2 of Game Changer :D
Genuinely, as a fan of Nebula and Dropout, I think it would be very interesting to see them do work together. And there is some overlap, some of those who are writers and actors at nebula have shown up on 'Um Actually', Maggie Mae Fish being the first example I could think of. But I've no real idea how that would take shape. Considering the recent experiments with the Survivor spoof and Dirty Laundry, I could see them easily being slotted in there, intellectuals put through meat grinders designed for comedians. But that feels more like a 'here's a bad idea' concept, than something workable.
i neeeeed a nebula-cast season of dimension 20 🗣️🗣️🗣️
I would love to see nebula music creators on a several music related episodes of um, actually.
For what ever reason, Sam approving of Nebula will likely push me to join Nebula.
Make sure you get the bundle with Curiosity Stream. Still breaks my brain one can support Nebula creatives, and get a bunch of great documentaries for under $20 a year.
29:20 Answering the important questions. Sam, where did you grow up?
He's been lying to us *_the whole time_*
I admit, I opened a new tab to Wikipedia Sam Reich's dad just as Dave called me out.
1:12:15 *brain flashes back to that episode of Game Changer where the point of the episode was to get the contestants to unionize without doing it consciously*
What episode was that?
Oh my god just kiss already.
What a lovely conversation! Good call on having this be the episode most listened-through, you two flowed really well together and I’m looking forward to seeing more in the future!
Hearing goofy creators talking seriously and candidly about their business is pretty wild to me. I've had this experience before, but it is still crazy that a person can be both.
It's not exactly what I need, but I feel I need to learn a fairly close skill, and I'm having a real hard time
[board meeting, interior, afternoon, the blinds are pulled down halfway as a projector is on]
"Thanks for that Dave, very interesting findings about our demographics on social media. Up next is Sam who will be telling us about a new show he wanted to pitch... Sam?"
[everyone looks around, Sam appears to be missing]
"Huh, I guess Sam's running late. We can circle back at the e--"
"Actually, *_I've been here the whole time ✨"_*
@@Imperial_Squid
"So, you all know what we're doing here, right?"
"What do you mean? I guess we're here to hear your pitch? What's going on?"
"That's right, our investors have no idea what they're about to play..."
Oh man! This was really great, but funny to hear Sam and Dave both completely miss the mark on Twitch or "watching" people play video games!
It definitely is about a social experience, but not primarily based on loneliness. There's certainly a portion of the audience that may consume it in that way, but a lot of us had group gaming experiences growing up that did *not* involve only waiting for the controller to be passed to us. I know groups of friends who would play Zelda together with everyone just chiming in to help solve puzzles, or cheer their friends on.
Look at the Scary Game Squad. Sure, we're watching them play - but they are simply playing together. Only one of them ever runs the controller for an _entire_ game, but they're hanging out enjoying the game together anyway. The core of Twitch viewing is exactly that, except we're just not in the room.
Maybe my experience here is different from the majority, I can't really say, but I've always viewed it as hanging out with a friend. Even on UA-cam it's enjoying the entertainment of the person playing, with the game simply providing a medium.
The end of your comment kind of shows their point, even though they don't quite get it. You call it hanging out with a friend, but a streamer or youtuber is not your friend, it's just a parasocial relationship
It's also a combination of interest in the game but a lack of interest in actually playing it - I'm a younger sibling so my childhood was spent watching my older brother play games and now that's the primary way I enjoy gaming content lol. Plus I'm disabled/neurodivergent so the games I genuinely want to experience, I can't physically play so I watch other people do it for me! I watch a decent amount of let's plays from a curated number of creators that play the way I would play if I could, with lots of attention to lore and world building.
Two bosses I actually like.
I’m in music management for a career and I can’t thank y’all enough for this discussion. I really think that content creators are innovating and rebuilding how all media should be approached from a business side. Thanks guys
Interestingly enough, I've never heard of Nebula, but UA-cam recommended this because I'm a big fan of Dropout. Really interesting chat
Re: the Video Game "Let's Play" genre - I grew up liking video games, but for some reason, I was always very bad at playing them and could never get past relatively early levels, so the only way I could actually see what the rest of the game was like was to watch my older brother play. That's the appeal of "Let's Play" videos for me.
Amazing to hear so much about two of the three truly independent subscriptions I've kept paying for after dumping nearly every other subscription I had. 3rd in mind, I would love to see one of these with Floatplane's Luke Lafreniere, especially to hear more nerding out about building out an in-house streaming stack!
Cut to me just learning that Sam is the son of the amazing ROBERT REICH?!?
I'm embarrassed I never made the connection before now.
I think I run back into this realization once a month.
This is... a game changer!
@@cpeterso_he's been Robert's son the whole time!!_ ✨
@@Imperial_Squid Hahaha well played
I love both Nebula and Dropout both. They're so clearly different and both coexist perfectly
This was a great interview. Investing in creators instead of shows is incredibly insightful.
At that, Sam, pleeeeease let the guests on Dirty Laundry plug their stuff BEFORE the game starts. Its hard to care about people i dont know anything about. And the show is about those people soooo.....
I've been subscribed to Dropout for about 6 months. I think my partner and I watch it more than any other streaming service besides UA-cam. It's nice to have a place where anything I turn on will be high quality stuff that makes us smile. Highly recommended.
......wait......Sam.....your dad...is THAT Robert Reich?....well damn.
I ADORE Dropout, really looking forward to this chat!
The two best and most consistent streaming apps are Dropout and Nebula. Im not a super big "industry" interested guy, but this was such a fun and interesting podcast-thing to listen to. Y'all are legendary, keep up the amazing work!
As someone in marketing, specifically organic social, the nuggets on sincerity and farming are exactly what I’ve been trying to articulate the past couple months! 🥰
Not only did I listen all the way through, I also listened for the first time.
I feel like the part of the conversation where they talked about how much of life you keep private and make public really stuck with me because of the “Sam where are you from” joke in Game Changer Battle Royale. It was cool to see how a passing joke can have that much deeper significance in regards to how a business is run.
On the note of watching video games. Personally I like watching people play games that I'm playing so that I can experience someone else playing the same game as me and learn stuff together.
Absolutely **fantastic** conversation. Thank you both for the candor and for sharing!
Wow - love love this interview! Lots of love for the college Humor team and their Dropout shows. You should have Marty Micheal on - he runs Headgum Podcasts and I've seen him talk about creator focused stuff before!
I love you both because you are so unapologeticly you. Nebula beings me my long-form videos on deep subjects, and dropout lets me be the nerd I am ❤ never change
The discussion of value is really fascinating and those ideas are 100% why I subbed to both of these platforms. Nebula had creators I enjoyed and wanted to see more of (plus the Curiosity Stream bundle as Sam from Wendover discussed recently) while Dropout had shows like Um Actually, Game Changer, and Dimension 20
Re: Cooking Shows: one of the main things about cookings shows is that it approaches a problem with an eventual goal. You know where the path leads but everyone might go down it differently.
Thank you for recording and sharing this conversation. So much widsom and experience.
What a fascinating conversation. I hope you can both find the balance between keeping your personal life private and content like this endearing both of you even more to your audience.
Okay, this was fascinating! This was not where I was planning for the algorithm to take me today, but I'm glad I watched. And hearing Sam talk about the crazy ideas they have up their sleeves made me really happy. I love the shows they have now, and would love to see more variety both in content & in faces.
The population of the Dropout Discord is the same size of New Bedford, Massachusetts. Hey Sam, where ya from?
I'm such a fan of what both of you do. This was a great conversation to listen to.
This was a fun and interesting conversation to listen to! A highlight was definitely listening to Sam and Dave offer to swap knowledge.
Truly, he has been here the whole time.
I've seen Dave in Patrick's videos, but I've never watched this channel until now. And I watched all the to the end, cause I really appreciate the Shakespeare episode of Game Changer. So much so I've grown to really appreciate Sam as a person who makes me happy with all the fun he can barely contain in shows and encourages really ballsy creative moves. I'd encourage anybody who hasn't tried Dropout, to take the challenge to watch that episode and not be hooked on Game Changer. Also the first episode is on youtube and is really hooks you to want more.
Oh wow i absolutely did not know Vimeo was spun out of college humor
This is Tesla and Edison if they were friends.
So the thing about the dropout discord is it survives by being consistently ruthless. The mods and the users are all aware that rule 1 is “don’t de a dink” and they will defend against anything that even smells somewhat of dink to the death with no quarter given and no negotiation.
On the one hand this does stifle expression and creativity within that discord but it also makes a super safe space, so quite the opposite of UA-cam comments.
For me, as a person banned from that discord, it leaves a sour taste but I still have the various subreddits I can engage with. Sure, I would appreciate the opportunity to switch from dropout proper to a UA-cam membership so I can get in the comments but this is how they run it and, at the end of the day, I’m here for the content I love so I stick around
They also did a trial run of lighter hands on the reins in the beginning so mods and community both have memory of what letting dinks run a little freer looks like. Much as I loved the lgbt+ channel, it’s a good thing they scrapped that idea. Couldn’t go a week without some friction or other. Good luck getting in the comments some other way ^_^
UA-cam and the media in general has made me cynical about online content, but I really do feel strongly that you guys need to make it for independent media to survive as a concept.
We need a dropout x nebula show that goes on both sites
Have Brennan run a campaign for the nerdier creatures and host it on Nebula? Or an episode of Game Changer?
@@Imperial_Squid Game Changer JetLag, I vote Ally because apprently they are good at flying in short notice
@@KusaneHexaku ooooh I'd love to see the 4D chess Brennan would come up with for Jetlag!
55:32 It's either watching experts do things expertly and being awed or learning... or it's personality based
It's ironic how talking about always being critical and not putting people on a pedestal has me sharpening the Reich pedestal chisel.
Huge sidenote: but I really like the framing you used and how the smaller view cuts of where the screen starts. It's almost like it's two different views but with the same camera
Regular 'see a video all the way through' viewer here confirming that this vid is worth viewing in its entirety (with a time accelerator of course)
I need to know what item Sam has consciously placed inside/atop of "The Box of Doom"!
All UA-cam did that Vimeo didn't was implement Flash video... and be acquired by Google
Totally read the title as “shutdown”
1:15:00 this is especially interesting to hear because he plays with that intro he describes in a recent episode!
Hbomberguy on Dimension20 when?
Sam is just barely older than me? and that guy is 41? What the fuck did I do to look like this while they look that good.
Yo but imagine if there was a D20 season with Lindsey Ellis…😮
It's interesting that I'm watching/listening to this show not because of Nebula, but because I remember Dave as a self contained UA-camr. It feels like I'm a lil bit out of place but on the other hand I'm interested.
Sam Reich? He's been there the whole time~!
Video game stuff is easy. I’m the same age as y’all and I watch let’s plays. You can watch someone play a game WHILE playing a game. It’s like having a very personalized show/some companionship related to your current activity.
14:00 100% If you were to take a month vacation and your team falls apart without you, you are a bad leader. You need to lift people up to a place where those beneath you could run your area "on autopilot" if need be, which means delegating and training people to replace you.
Failure to do this is also a huge reason why business owners often get a fraction of what the company is worth when they sell it to retire. The company isn't worth shit if it needs you to function and you're leaving.
24:45 Exactly.
Dave is 41?? Jesus, he looks great
I respect Dropout and Nebula so, so much and gosh I hope they make it in this bleak capitalistic world. The Dropout Discord is one of the best thing I've been in!
Dave, your first Question about Sam's path towards where is now should be „Sam, where are you from?“ … for reasons. :D
two of my favorite platforms ❤❤❤
All the way through!
It's Sam! He was here the whole time.
Huge Dropout fan, so this was exciting to see
Imagine Brennan Lee Mulligan as the guest on JetLag. Hot damn!
Only 15 full time DropOut employees? Does that mean creators on DropOut (like Brennan Lee Mulligan or Lou Wilson or Siobhan Thompson) aren't considered full time employees?
brennan is full time, the others are contractors
Pitch for a show:
Pitch Your Show!
You have a panel of showrunners in a room and they are pitched show ideas. They pick so many to be produced as a single episode. End of the season viewers vote on which one gets produced into a season.
hoping we can see brennan on jet lag
I don't know how likely a scenario like that would be, but you know he would hands down be the most intense guest they've ever had.
Please that's way too much time in the sun for the poor guy
HOW DID I NOT KNOW ROBERT REICH WAS HIS DAD???
56:08 its so popular at least with me is it is good background noise bc of my adhd i need something stimulating enough for me to do things. And video games being enjoyable watching is the same reason sports are popular.
Not saying im not lonely but it is good for me to function to have this or music
I'm so glad he said the thing about watching video games vs playing. I totally don't get it coz yeah growing up watching was not fun because you were just waiting to play yourself
I made the similar comments about video games content with actual play content. What's the point about watching other people play a game I could play myself?
The difference with Critical Role and Dimension 20, is that they are entertainers. And they add in the chops as actors and improvisors that make it fun to watch.
With video game videos, the stuff I see as most relevant and useful and enjoyable to watch deals with two things. Ability to play the game well, and ways to make that entertaining.
So, sports. People that post speed runs. Or how tos. Tutorials for how to do complex things in creative are incredibly useful for so many games. Which leads to watching content creators who are just legitimately really good at the games they play. Watching someone play creatively can lead toe trying similar things in my games.
Then there are creators like Spiffing Brit that value entertainment and creativity first and foremost.
It was so weird to see sam without glasses
Good stuff.
😈 Instead of a happy collab creators from Nebula and players from Dropout compete Hunger Games style. Lindsay Ellis v. Brennan Lee Mulligan creates the arena. Mike Trapp would be a great announcer rabbit trailing into the weeds while Adam Conover corrects him.
this is good
Tom Scott is an authentic but private person.
It would be interesting if this streamings just collapsed in eachother and became the best of both worlds
Ohh hints at another crossover? color me curious!
Been a Dropout fan for awhile, but never heard of Nebula. Now I'll have to check that out.
KevOnStage Studios is another creater based company that is making amazing progress! It would also be great to have him on as well!
Love this!!
I have an idea
Dropout x Nebula
Do a round table discussion where they watch sizzle reels of each others work prepared BTS and have everyone’s be very professional except edit Brennan’s to be completely full of his most over the top moments.
These two are the only subscriptions I have apart from UA-cam Premium. I really don't like ad rolls