Bob the Drag Queen on the Winners: Sharon Needles

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  • @bobtdqvideos
    @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +23

    Tips would be very much appreciated 🧡 ko-fi.com/bobtdqvideos

  • @sksksks411
    @sksksks411 2 роки тому +2200

    bob saying she didn’t feel she had enough power to be publicly uncomfortable w sharon’s behaviour puts some of the older vids in a new light where she’s hesitant to fully criticise sharon at all. i feel bad for her having to put up with that shit for so long.

    • @sksksks411
      @sksksks411 2 роки тому +85

      @@abcdefg-wv5nt i’m not saying bob was doing sharon apologism or anything. while watching the vid, it seemed like bob didn’t like sharon’s behaviour but she wasn’t as forthcoming with her criticism as she is in the more recent videos.

    • @brockreynolds870
      @brockreynolds870 Рік тому +1

      Willam felt comfortable enough to call it out. Why didn't Bob?

    • @CarlyGayJepsen
      @CarlyGayJepsen Рік тому +25

      @@brockreynolds870 what’s your point exactly? Also, willam was quiet about it for YEARS AND she worked and hung out with sharon multiple times during those years she never said anything until Dida called sharon out.

    • @brockreynolds870
      @brockreynolds870 Рік тому +6

      @@CarlyGayJepsen That is because everyone who is on Drag race is required to sign an NDA, and can be sued for revealing such infromation. Willam's NDA expired in 2017, and he spilled the info in the spring of 2018.

    • @celestemunda7143
      @celestemunda7143 Рік тому +39

      @@brockreynolds870 ​ probably because as a black person she felt like no one would take her seriously or they would say it's not that bad. As she said in this video, 12:16 and 13:11
      Sharon has been banned from how many cities and she's still somehow getting booked? She clearly does not want to better herself and there are more than enough people out there who are willing to deny or minimize how harmful her hateful behavior was and still is.

  • @Laughingwithtravii
    @Laughingwithtravii 2 роки тому +822

    ill never forget when i met sharon. i had been watching drag race since s1 and sharon was the first queen i truly loved. that blood moment? pleeeease. she was weird and different, a rebel. i looked up to her sm. i hadnt ever really thought about drag in a horror way and it was fascinating to learn about.
    anyways i ended up seeing her at play in TN, the show was nice but i left after she kept using the n word at the meet n greet afterwards. it was shocking to see someone i looked up to act in such a manner. this was like 8 years ago probably and she still hasnt changed its so disappointing.
    she taught me thats its not always the best idea to actually meet your idols. sometimes the version of them in your head is the better one.

    • @fightvale57
      @fightvale57 2 роки тому +5

      Omggg

    • @Koreybowling1
      @Koreybowling1 2 роки тому +1

      With the hard R? Wdym she hasn't changed? Can't imagine she is still saying that now, since anyone could record her

    • @Laughingwithtravii
      @Laughingwithtravii 2 роки тому +2

      @@Koreybowling1 shes still doing dumb shit for shock value. dont have time for that. i just started supporting local queens. life been better since.
      like imagine shocking us with creativity like she once did? now we shocked she said the n word. again. oh maybe no r this time? 😂😭 love yourself more.

    • @heyLORDitsme
      @heyLORDitsme 2 роки тому +7

      Just wow… thank you for sharing

    • @Cyouinthefunnypages
      @Cyouinthefunnypages 2 роки тому +37

      My daughter loved her! Not anymore. She had a chance to meet her in our town. The tickets allowed for a photo opp or autograph. She was so dismissive, rude, and looked bored. But it hasn't changed our love for Drag or RuPaul.

  • @HausMonsoon
    @HausMonsoon 2 роки тому +1213

    Ugh, that just made me sick to my stomach. Especially when Bob recalled the time when she didn't feel empowered enough to tell her that she's out of line. It makes me sad and angers me at the same time. Just *wild* .

    • @danieldominguez5180
      @danieldominguez5180 2 роки тому +5

      Hi, are You booth gona colaboraté for the vídeo of Bob the drag Queen about Jinkx moonson? I think booth of You are great

    • @HausMonsoon
      @HausMonsoon 2 роки тому +22

      @@danieldominguez5180 We talked about me contributing before. I would love to help, but I am not as knowledgeable as Aina when it comes to Bob and these videos are from Bob's POV after all. But thank you for the compliment! x

    • @danieldominguez5180
      @danieldominguez5180 2 роки тому +9

      @@HausMonsoon ohhh thank u very much for explaining, that makes sense.
      Love u all, You have amazing content. Thank u very much

    • @Pennyallavodka
      @Pennyallavodka 2 роки тому +8

      Sharron actually scares me-

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +20

      thank you ❤️❤️❤️

  • @danwilliams2551
    @danwilliams2551 2 роки тому +2384

    The thing that gets me is that Jaremi has gone on to do things like raise an $80k benefit for Puerto Rico, and Sharon in the meantime is justifying her use of extremely racist behavior...and yet, going onto any recent drag race upload that features Season 4, it's still like "I hope Phi Phi quits drag, I hate her". Never mind the racism, sexual assault allegations, etc...no, forget all that. The cardinal sin for drag race fans is the audacity of raising your voice at a white person on Television.

    • @OscarSotoJr
      @OscarSotoJr 2 роки тому +93

      @Fanged Based on the above, she seems to have groomed the whole fan base.

    • @Aldrius
      @Aldrius 2 роки тому +60

      I mean Jaremi is a pit bull. Jaremi has not found a fight that he doesn't like sticking his nose into and starting as much shit as possible, if he feels he's in the right. That's not a cute character trait. Sharon being a destructive train wreck doesn't change that. Jaremi still purposefully tried to screw people over in the competition, he was downright cruel to Chad for no reason, I mean it's a lot more than raising his voice.

    • @danwilliams2551
      @danwilliams2551 2 роки тому +293

      @@Aldrius You cannot really compare how someone competed in a reality TV show to win the prize money to HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS.

    • @Aldrius
      @Aldrius 2 роки тому +69

      @@danwilliams2551 I'm not?
      I'm saying Sharon being bad doesn't make Jaremi good.
      And for the record, I don't hate Jaremi for being aggressive or messy when he was 24 years old and on TV for the first time. But I'm also not going to pretend he didn't do anything wrong.

    • @nunya2587
      @nunya2587 2 роки тому +3

      You can silliness both of them at the same time

  • @mourningdove5591
    @mourningdove5591 2 роки тому +1071

    monet was right about the house of haunt not being a real thing, both sharon and alaska have said that it was never an official thing it was just something sharon sorta hyped up on television despite them never really really establishing it beforehand, but it was not the big thing bob was making it

    • @mourningdove5591
      @mourningdove5591 2 роки тому +54

      @@abcdefg-wv5nt yea it was a noise band that they did literally one performance of while all on drugs, not an actual drag house in the way the house of edwards is

    • @superboobs890
      @superboobs890 2 роки тому +16

      They still went together as a group of friends who did fucked up stuff.

    • @Greengoblin420-69
      @Greengoblin420-69 2 роки тому +38

      bob wasnt making it a thing. lol Its a drag family. It doesnt have to be some big brand world wide. It can still remain personal to them

    • @mikeparez
      @mikeparez 2 роки тому +3

      @@mourningdove5591 WAS, they arent a thing

    • @joeyjose727
      @joeyjose727 2 роки тому +4

      @@Greengoblin420-69 maybe but even Alaska has said on Race Chaser that it really wasn’t this concrete thing that people think it was

  • @helena4440
    @helena4440 2 роки тому +405

    "Queens like THAT" and I oop

  • @eros4434
    @eros4434 2 роки тому +207

    Wow, this video is quite the ride. It gave me an understanding of how Bob’s views have changed on Sharon over time. Great vid, great edit!

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +24

      yes! that was the intention thank you ! quite complicated as bob also grows and evolves

    • @MikeGrahamDSM
      @MikeGrahamDSM 2 роки тому +15

      I agree. This was really good storyline editing. I watch your videos because I get a glimpse of the videos and things that Bob and Monet have done or said that I would not have been able to otherwise.
      Also, it sickens / saddens me that Bob, who I look up to as a queer heroine with many valid and progressive political viewpoints and ideas, someone who’s made me further look at poly relationships as another healthy and robust way of loving, and better dissect heteronormative thinking, felt too disempowered to call out Sharon’s blatant racist remarks.
      Clearly this bitch (Sharon) kept doing it because enough people let her get away with it and made her feel ok about it. We need to continue to do better.

  • @annabv55
    @annabv55 2 роки тому +179

    Something about Bob not being comfortable with calling out Sharon makes me feel sick. I always look at Bob as someone who takes zero bullshit and will call out bad behaviour, this really shows how complicated the whole situation was, and how manipulative Sharon is.
    Also just the fact that Bob feels uncomfortable in general makes me sick. Cause Bob deserves the world.

  • @Moxipoxie
    @Moxipoxie 2 роки тому +210

    I appreciate how authentically Bob talked about Sharon and how his relationship has evolved with her. I think a lot of us have experienced situations like this where we have had to accept that a person you liked did not hold up to your values and eventually have that come to a head. Especially with someone with more perceived power than you. Systemic issues are so complex, but I’m glad that even though we have SO much more work to do, that even in the past few years, the social climate has changed so much that behavior like that is no longer held as acceptable. I think a lot of past Sharon fans went through a similar struggle with how they felt about her. I know I did- I used to love her but the more I’ve seen revealed, the less I’ve been impressed. I’ve never seen her using racist or offensive behavior in person either. I can’t imagine how that felt especially as a Black person who had looked up to her. I think this is such an important topic and I wish more Ru girls didn’t see Sharon as untouchable. I wish they had talked more about the allegations against her too, but I understand that not really being their story to talk about as much as seeing first hand that she’s constantly crossed the line when it comes to race.

    • @justinleano5892
      @justinleano5892 2 роки тому +6

      Literally read my mind with this comment

  • @CatherineTheMocker
    @CatherineTheMocker 2 роки тому +421

    so far bob and monet are the only drag race queens i’ve heard that have spoken out against sharon. i’m sure there are probably more but it’s alarming to me that the majority still follow her, still comment on her posts, still work with her, still support her. good for bob specifically for being able to talk about some of the racism they’ve witnessed from sharon first hand. i don’t understand how anyone could still be friendly with her after learning information like that

    • @clarelenihan
      @clarelenihan 2 роки тому +126

      Dida Ritz has spoken about it, and tbh I think it’s the reason why producers won’t bring her back for All stars

    • @oliviawalmsley2167
      @oliviawalmsley2167 2 роки тому +10

      Remember when Monet and Sharon did Absolut Vodka together? So many people were confused as to why he would do that since he's been vocal about Sharon's racist behaviour over the years.

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +43

      they didn't film anything together or photoshoots together at all lmao why is that on monet??? that is on SERV.

    • @oliviawalmsley2167
      @oliviawalmsley2167 2 роки тому +11

      ​@@bobtdqvideos I did not 100% know what the situation was with SERV. Stuff happens behind scenes that is kept confidential and not brought to public light.
      I bet she was uncomfortably "smiling" and probably arguing with SERV for giving Sharon work. I can tell it was contract work since Monet would NEVER voluntarily work with Sharon. I was not trying to hold Monet accountable since she had NO SAY in Sharon being a part of the SERV brand.
      I didn’t have all the facts at the time I made that comment.
      It was iconic Kandy Muse shading Sharon in an Instagram comment. Saying "I'll take all of them except bloody orange." LMAO.
      With SERV, I know it's Manila's brand and she is still friends of Sharon's. In that regard, that’s who should be accountable. SERV literally just turns off comments on Sharon's posts regarding the Vodka.
      Unfortunately MULTIPLE Ru girls still support Sharon despite her unacceptable behaviour. Most are private about their friendship for OBVIOUS reasons.
      With Sharon Needles, hopefully she fades away into obscurity and takes accountability for her behaviour. For the queens she has offended and hurt over the years. There's no reason to accept her apology. She should have known from a very long time ago that her behaviour hurts others.

    • @mikeparez
      @mikeparez 2 роки тому

      @@oliviawalmsley2167 You dont abandon friends for this you try to help them unless ur saying she shouidl kill herself

  • @alondragomez.5273
    @alondragomez.5273 2 роки тому +268

    I remember rooting for her so hard back in the day too, it's just so crazy to think she used to be one of the most beloved ru girls. Little did we know...
    Anyways, thank you for this content! I can't wait for Jinkxy's video 🥰

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +16

      i'm currently having fun collecting the bob and jinkx stuff ❤️

    • @angellover02171
      @angellover02171 2 роки тому

      Sharon was like the underdog of the season.

  • @escapie2328
    @escapie2328 2 роки тому +487

    I'm really enjoying these Bob on the Winners videos! But, boy oh boy, I wasn't sure I even wanted to watch this one. Just the thought of Sharon makes me cringe. I also was really afraid that this would ignore the controversial topics. I'm so glad you addressed them. Great video! Great series! Can't wait to watch the rest!

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +81

      i was kind of scared about this one too and whew the dark headspace seeing those pics was a challenge! but i'm excited to have fun with jinkx ❤️

  • @ladderup6584
    @ladderup6584 2 роки тому +390

    Oh man, it breaks my heart that Bob lived through a non supportive political climate that wasn’t quick to question Sharon Needles racism. Serious missed opportunities for conversation and growth-if such a thing were possible for Sharon. I’m so sorry to Bob and other queens of color, we have to be better allies.

    • @cherijoseph7819
      @cherijoseph7819 2 роки тому +18

      You seem to think this is something unique to Bob, all Black people have to do this daily.

    • @instrumentsmrti
      @instrumentsmrti 2 роки тому +8

      @@cherijoseph7819 they never said that lol

    • @CarlyGayJepsen
      @CarlyGayJepsen Рік тому +2

      @@cherijoseph7819 them feeling bad for Bob doesn’t mean that they think it’s unique to them….they said what they said cause bob is the one telling her story and how she felt……💀idk how that made sense and your head

  • @blackdamarsk633
    @blackdamarsk633 2 роки тому +392

    Say what you want about Sharon but her stance on not wanting fans to discuss their suicidal ideation stories etc at pre show-M&Gs is perfectly valid
    That is where my agreements with Sharon start and end

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +128

      yeah bob and naomi and monet literally agreed with that so?

    • @blackdamarsk633
      @blackdamarsk633 2 роки тому +82

      @@bobtdqvideos unfortunately its something not many fans agree with

    • @ernestorodriguez8388
      @ernestorodriguez8388 2 роки тому +98

      @@blackdamarsk633 but it's like why? Stop burdening strangers with that information. Go seek professional help

    • @blackdamarsk633
      @blackdamarsk633 2 роки тому +50

      @@ernestorodriguez8388 !!!!!!! These M&Gs only go for like a minute anyway so what response are these fans fucken hoping for?

    • @youreannoying
      @youreannoying 2 роки тому +11

      I mean she wont talk about suicide but she has no issue using the n word multiple times and seeing no issue with saying it. She’s clearly an advocate for racism so talk o her about that when you see her.

  • @elenadevour8423
    @elenadevour8423 2 роки тому +161

    she worked our pride this year and was a actual menace and called other queens R**arded and was just gross. Oh and her perfmance was absolute snoozefest

  • @witchingbrew3
    @witchingbrew3 2 роки тому +26

    Sorry not sorry but a lot of the influencers in goth scene are low key problematic, narcassitic, etc. it just hadn't been all the way exposed yet. Also props to the goth queens and regular goth kids who speak out against that type of behavior.

  • @illumifarti8052
    @illumifarti8052 2 роки тому +297

    I’ve always found that Sharon always thought she was WAY more famous than she actually was. If you watch some of her interviews it just screams narcissist. Her racism is inexcusable, also the abusive nature of the relationship she had with a particular fan and others was alarming. I also recall a video on Twitter that she posted years ago with this young girl who was with her mom at a meet and greet, and Sharon was telling her that she looked like she had a brain tumour because of how her head looked, and I was shocked at how it just flew under the radar!

    • @rotem1437
      @rotem1437 Рік тому +4

      And she talks about her "legacy" so much...A classic narcissist

  • @19nmiller1
    @19nmiller1 2 роки тому +196

    12:47 I completely understand this sentiment. I actually went back to rewatch season 4 not too long ago and a lot of Sharon's behavior was very questionable at best. Seeing it in a new light was eye-opening because there were a lot of times where Sharon was pretty awful. I guess it just goes to show how powerful the edit is. Even to this day, people try to excuse Sharon because she was seen as the "hero" of season 4.

    • @ErgoDog
      @ErgoDog 2 роки тому +8

      You guys sounds religious

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +26

      mhmm i watched earlier seasons at a later time than their release (but before i knew what the deal with sharon was outside of the show) and i was actually team phiphi from the get go

    • @bastioncory6740
      @bastioncory6740 2 роки тому +8

      Uhhhhh,NO. Don't even try to nit pick, cause Sharon still seemed great in the edit. Name one instance where Sharon was racist or was ignorant. Phi Phi was the one that made racists remarks during the election challenge

    • @fall3nang3l125
      @fall3nang3l125 2 роки тому +46

      @@bastioncory6740 That was very obviously a character, it was supposed to be a racist rich republican. It was a terrible character and the jokes didn't land

    • @nolanbrewer877
      @nolanbrewer877 2 роки тому +23

      I rewatched S4 again just recently and was so surprised at how many weird race and skin colour comments Sharon made. There are mutliple times where Phi Phi and Latrice just uncomfortably look at each other or the cameras after Sharon says something innappropriate and uncomfortable, like they are surprised she keeps getting a free pass. Its wild that this is the pro sharon edit and STILL weird racists comments slip through, a good third of her acts involve her hyping up her white skin in contrast to a darker queen, it is so wildly uncomfortable.

  • @bobtdqvideos
    @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +182

    Special thanks to Malia @houndstoothbob on twitter and yt users: Joe Souvannarath, Lil Nastyy and Criag for helping me find certain clips!
    And please give me at least a full week each for Jinkx and Bianca's! They're definitely the closest to Bob out of the DR winners (not including All Stars ofc) so I'm going to have to be more thorough! Thank you
    and the Bob and Dakota video is from August 2021

    • @GratitudeGriot
      @GratitudeGriot 2 роки тому +4

      the sibling rivalry ep w/ Bianca was the reason I joined their Patreon. please take all the time you need❤️ also heart Jinxie too🦆💦 thanks for all that you do! this series is🔥

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +2

      yall i missed the gun story from The One About the New York around 4:10 😨

  • @completelyoriginal404
    @completelyoriginal404 2 роки тому +138

    I watched season 4 as it aired. As a little gay weird kid from the Midwest with no social media, just a tv, Sharon really inspired me. It sucks that she has to be so shitty all the time and I wish I could see the positives in her, but I certainly can't make excuses for her. Especially when she never apologized and continues her behavior. It just kinda breaks my heart seeing all this. I knew about the drugs but I just thought that was punk. Saying slurs and telling people to off themselves is not punk, that's pathetic.

    • @moonlightbae6143
      @moonlightbae6143 2 роки тому +16

      THIS I’m so disappointed in her behaviour because on the show she was amazing but i understand shes a fictional character from her presentation on the show and it isnt a true reflection of the person behind Sharon

    • @aprilg4116
      @aprilg4116 2 роки тому +3

      Same here. Was a huge fan

  • @diablorose
    @diablorose 2 роки тому +88

    I see a lot of comments feeling sorry for Bob not feeling comfortable with saying something back then. Yes we need to take into the account the times and politics of back then blah blah blah. But just so yall know that story ends with black and yt drag queens standing up to Sharon and kicking her out and almost getting physical so while Bob may not have been comfortable just know there was definitely other people who felt confident enough to call Sharon out and do something about it. (Not invalidating bob not feeling comfortable to do so, just want yall to know there's a happy ish ending to the story)

    • @junniebear49
      @junniebear49 2 роки тому +2

      Just seems like they let it go on for quite sometime tho. I just wished it was nipped in the bud earlier by the wyt queens.

    • @diablorose
      @diablorose 2 роки тому +10

      @@junniebear49 if I remember correctly the 1st time she did it the group wasn't around (as it was in the club) it was only a handful, when she thought she got away with it and tried it again at the dinner post the show with all the queens and dancers around and boom they all got on her ass... it's grosser that after she tried it on a small number she thought she could try it again around everyone feels nasty and planned

    • @diablorose
      @diablorose 2 роки тому +4

      @@junniebear49 yeah idk if you are on the patreon but how they portrait it was she was sneaking it at the club then got slick at the dinner and they hopped on her ass once again not invalidating bobs opinion but just letting yall know once she got loud with it she was checked

  • @starsheen1
    @starsheen1 2 роки тому +33

    Only thing I agree with Sharon Needles on is speaking up about the suicide stories. There's something fans do to celebrity figures, and that's trauma dump. Fans will NEVER hesitate to trauma dump on their fave.

  • @leopie_777
    @leopie_777 2 роки тому +17

    the dakota episode is my fav bonus episode ever! glad it was included

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +1

      i felt like this video could not be complete without that so i truly had to

  • @bluepuppy7
    @bluepuppy7 2 роки тому +20

    Omg from the bottom of my heart thank you so much for uploading these videos 😂😭❤️ It’s my comfort podcast, and having all of the best bits in a compact space, edited well is sooooo nice

    • @bluepuppy7
      @bluepuppy7 2 роки тому

      This is a weird video to comment this on but I was just binge watching a bunch lol

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому

      thank you so much!!

  • @BoucheronsNo.1Fan
    @BoucheronsNo.1Fan 2 роки тому +108

    Just saying I was one of the 3 Phi Phi fans during the initial run of S4. Even have the tweet voting for her during the finale to prove it 😉

  • @aquarian6004
    @aquarian6004 2 роки тому +44

    I mean honestly shes funny and talented and I was rooting for her back in S4. But all these racist remarks and allegations, its fitting to just dethrone her. We must do the right thing and make her accountable.

  • @b.mcknight8686
    @b.mcknight8686 2 роки тому +13

    I imagine it would be overwhelming listening to all of your fans tell you the "you saved my life story" we see it all the time in every comment section. People saying "this celebrity saved me, I was going to end my life but instead I followed Raja to her pretty pretty palace" or "I was clinically depressed but then Manila Luzon served me hot couture-or-or. Now I'm cure-ur-ured"

  • @JuanitoEsBonito
    @JuanitoEsBonito 2 роки тому +69

    Bob saying they didn't feel powered enough speaks volumes I see alot of fans use other queens "silence" as justification for a queens actions the truth is some queens really don't feel like they have the power to do so.
    Also I'm curious about the many new york queens who regularly use the n word monet mentioned have some of them been on drag race will some be on future seasons if so it'll be interesting to see if anything were to come out

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +6

      exactly. even in these comments they still try it.

  • @zajiira543
    @zajiira543 2 роки тому +11

    The story arc wow !! Also these videos look so bard to make rip

  • @sana_fanboi
    @sana_fanboi 2 роки тому +110

    gawd, I wish miss needles wasn't a problematic person. she used to be one of my absolute faves

  • @kieranjaymansfield
    @kieranjaymansfield 2 роки тому +56

    Sharon has completely disappeared out of the limelight

    • @Aldrius
      @Aldrius 2 роки тому +30

      She's been disowned.
      Her drag race sisters don't want to torpedo her (she's good friends with A LOT of them) but they also don't want her toxic brand to ruin theirs.
      So she will forever sit in limbo.

    • @siscoramos5315
      @siscoramos5315 2 роки тому +26

      Wasn't she recently on a vodka campaign with Monet and a few other girls 🤔

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +12

      yep😟

    • @eoincampbell1584
      @eoincampbell1584 2 роки тому +9

      @@abcdefg-wv5nt "Real life isn't twitter." is a phrase that needs to be used more often

    • @mouzube
      @mouzube 2 роки тому +8

      @@anyal1987 How does someone who is canceled get a deal for four specials?

  • @jamcomichero
    @jamcomichero 2 роки тому +32

    Can’t wait for VIOLET CHACHKI episode

  • @joshy_bish
    @joshy_bish 2 роки тому +22

    For many years I just watched drag race and didn't read or watch anything about it on social media or on UA-cam so I had no idea about racist queens or fans until many years later and was shook lol. In retrospect I shouldn't have been shook 😆

  • @sandeater0214
    @sandeater0214 2 роки тому +39

    You are the sibling rivalry historian

  • @rwb3562
    @rwb3562 2 роки тому +8

    I'm really enjoying these videos thank you so much for doing them, it's really different and interesting 👍

  • @hollysomething457
    @hollysomething457 2 роки тому +2

    This is such a great series! Looking forward to seeing the rest.

  • @Lpcarver
    @Lpcarver 2 роки тому +25

    I hope that if there's a Bob on Monet one of the clips is Bob asking if Monet would send her home on an all winners season and she pulls up a Bob lip stick immediately

  • @EnteringMyFlopEra
    @EnteringMyFlopEra 8 місяців тому +4

    The more I learn about Sharon’s awful behavior, the worse I feel for Phi Phi :(

  • @perry5509
    @perry5509 2 роки тому +44

    I always thought that about Sharon and Fifi - I remember noticing that there was a huge edit in one of their big fights on season 4, where fifi literally goes from 1 to 100 mid sentence and it makes absolutely no sense. It was obvious to me that they cut out a huge chunk of the fight, all the minutes of Sharon antagonising Fifi before Fifi exploded at her

    • @nattiemar
      @nattiemar 2 роки тому +3

      please dont use "phi phi" - use jaremi

  • @oddpanda2956
    @oddpanda2956 2 роки тому +14

    Naomi: Could you imagine with her fans?
    ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️ NAOMIIIII PLSSSSS

  • @AshleyNicholsonVlogs
    @AshleyNicholsonVlogs 2 роки тому +24

    Wow. This is so sad to hear. Bob is such a special drag queen and they do not have to carry the burden of guilt in any way. Sharon is a monster.

  • @rotem1437
    @rotem1437 Рік тому +7

    You can clearly hear that Sharon treated him with kindness and he liked her...her stupid jokes and behavior ruined so much for her

  • @JeremyMYG
    @JeremyMYG 2 роки тому +26

    The first DR winners video over 10 mins. Shangela might have to pass the Nancy Drew torch to you.

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +12

      i think jinkx and bianca would also go over 10minutes but for fun reasons!

  • @raypierce5818
    @raypierce5818 8 місяців тому +2

    For some reason… I always got along with her, she always called me sis. Lol… yet there was not a moment I took her for granted as she could flip at any moment. I always tried to be there to help calm her down during her “episodes”, typically at airports for some reason!

  • @maustress
    @maustress 2 роки тому +10

    Oh brother this is gonna be something

  • @moonstoneuniverse8516
    @moonstoneuniverse8516 2 роки тому +147

    After the allegations against Sharon I think we all need to go to Jeremy’s page and apologize to him, even if you didn’t say anything you still stood and watched while this person gets bullied.

    • @jordann96x
      @jordann96x 2 роки тому +1

      phi phi didnt get bullied by sharon what ru talking about phi phi can clearly handle herself

    • @moonstoneuniverse8516
      @moonstoneuniverse8516 2 роки тому +52

      @@jordann96x BULLIED BY THIS FANDOM!!!

    • @jordann96x
      @jordann96x 2 роки тому +5

      @@moonstoneuniverse8516 but what has sharon got to do with phi phi being like that on s4 and then again to alyssa, its so random

    • @moonstoneuniverse8516
      @moonstoneuniverse8516 2 роки тому +17

      @@jordann96x because this fandom praised and still praises Sharon (a racist child predator) and bullied and still bullies Jeremi all because they had a couple of fights (which they orchestrated) on season 4, so the person this fandom has been defending is a racist child predator and the person we’ve been putting down had a couple of bad moments on a highly produced reality tv show.

    • @jordann96x
      @jordann96x 2 роки тому

      @@moonstoneuniverse8516 yes which ive just said again, phi phi was shady towards alyssa etc, which is why people also did stuff.. there's no reason everyone needs to randomly go to someone completely not related to the whole sharon thing and say sorry for it lol I mean get a grip that sounds insaneone needs to randomly go to someone completely not related to the whole sharon thing and say sorry for it lol I mean get a grip that sounds insaneone needs to randomly go to someone completely not related to the whole sharon thing and say sorry for it lol I mean get a grip that sounds insane

  • @tesstube6040
    @tesstube6040 2 роки тому +40

    Never forget the queens in Glasgow who ditched Needles in a kebab shop for being unbearable.
    Munter doing the lords work

  • @ZombieMiezz
    @ZombieMiezz 2 роки тому +5

    Never liked Sharon & never will. Also as a white person I've never felt inclined to use the n-word. No one has to tell me that & no one ever did back then.

  • @odiug95
    @odiug95 2 роки тому +73

    She's clearly a very talented artist, but I think she's in too deep to ever admit her wrongs and try to apologize and try to make things right. She still has a lot of fans and friends in the industry, apparently.
    It's such a waste, honestly because she stood for many positive things in the begining, like breaking the norms and being your authentic self and not giving a shit about it. It's disappointing.

    • @InternetWAPx
      @InternetWAPx 2 роки тому +12

      This has been her authentic self all along, she just knew how to market herself on tv and production probably helped too.

    • @DearDanny
      @DearDanny 2 роки тому

      U guys sugacoat her too much. she is a piece of shit humanbeing, stop saying she "she doesnt apologize" how apologizing will fix the stuff shes been called out ofr years and still does it...

  • @Melissa-tw2gp
    @Melissa-tw2gp Рік тому +16

    Drag is about transgression, but there’s nothing transgressive about racism. It’s about as establishment as it gets.

  • @lokinorsea456
    @lokinorsea456 2 роки тому +78

    Wow! 14 minutes! And honestly it’s def more positive than I thought it’d be. She really do be stirring that shit, glad the truth is at least out there so ppl w comprehension abilities know that Jaremi wasn’t the villain of S4 and it was so clearly Shit-aron

    • @RubyConn
      @RubyConn 2 роки тому +3

      Comprehension abilities 😭

  • @LegendaryCS4
    @LegendaryCS4 8 місяців тому +2

    Sharon Needles was my fave queen until I found this out. Literally for what? Why did she do any of this is beyond me. She went from edgy to edge-lord, but who's going to tell her using slurs for a shock factor doesn't make someone edgy, it just makes them racist...

  • @peter.parker3.0
    @peter.parker3.0 2 роки тому +28

    Thank you for this Bob! I too feel extremely disgusted that I rooted hard for her. This needed to be shared! At least now we know why she hasn't been back on drag race 😬

  • @kadencallaham6063
    @kadencallaham6063 2 роки тому +16

    When I first watched season 4 of Drag Race, there was always something about Sharon that I didn't like, and I didn't know why I felt like that. Then I hear about what she did on the show as well as off the show and I had a reason.

    • @jifij89
      @jifij89 2 роки тому +2

      same here. i always liked her art but her personality was always off

  • @cassandrarocha7369
    @cassandrarocha7369 2 роки тому +13

    I thought I was the only one that feels a bit of shame for rooting for Sharon on her season. I was a hardcore fan of her, even saying that makes me cringe

    • @cherijoseph7819
      @cherijoseph7819 2 роки тому +5

      I loved her because she was horror, alternative and Sharon is my government. As a Black woman she now disgusts me.

  • @javiermichaels3144
    @javiermichaels3144 2 роки тому +12

    Sharon is actually more problematic than Phi Phi.
    Change my mind.

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +18

      no one who’s seen this video will argue with you lol

  • @BeIlG
    @BeIlG 2 роки тому +4

    I am glad you ended on the clip you ended on so people do not twist things and make it seem like bob switched so she could play the victim card. In reality most victims don't overtly know they have been victimized and take it in as something they themselves did wrong. Just like you hear bob say. It takes a lot to acknowledge they were in the wrong and not you.

  • @Rebecca-qx1et
    @Rebecca-qx1et 2 роки тому +6

    I feel sick that I rooted for Sharon too. This makes me angry and sad for the Queens and others she has abused...I see it in Alaska too, the narcissistic personality, I just hope that Alaska isn't racist like Sharon.

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +7

      oh she definitely has a racist past 💀 but i don't think she's proud of that

    • @heymistercarter.
      @heymistercarter. Рік тому +5

      @@bobtdqvideos Alaska mentioned in her book that she went along with Sharon’s behavior and partook in it when they did shows together, but that she regrets doing it and isn’t that kind of person.

    • @jenniferlynne6571
      @jenniferlynne6571 Рік тому +5

      Reading Alaskas book and seeing her body language in season 5 and on the road with Sharon she thought she fell in love with a different type of person but Sharon emotionally and verbally abused her the entire relationship. It escalated after Sharon won which I find really crappy that she knew alaska had been auditioning for drag race since season 1 and she got on first. Sharon would always put down alaskas looks, ideas, falsely accuse her of cheating when that didn’t happen until after season 5, Alaska doesn’t make herself the victim at all but the way she describes how they were together Sharon definitely was the dominant one. So glad she got away from that and was able to grow.

  • @jasonmartin1267
    @jasonmartin1267 2 роки тому +28

    As far as some of the language Sharon uses and the things she does, I think part of the problem is that she started out as a “shock” queen and working in punk venues and gay bars at night. She even said on her season the queens in her city wouldn’t invite her to the parades and daytime events.
    I don’t think she adjusted her behavior or act for younger audiences that saw her as an idol.

  • @mirandasmith6856
    @mirandasmith6856 Рік тому +6

    I actually appreciate Sharon talking to fans in meet in greets for extended times

  • @classicmold
    @classicmold 2 роки тому +17

    I thought Sharon was awful on their season though too, I was actually rooting for Chad Michaels

  • @c.m.8972
    @c.m.8972 2 роки тому +6

    So disappointing, Sharon was my favorite of all seasons based on what I saw in on the show. But after hearing all those stories about her, no thanks

  • @juliefrommes4119
    @juliefrommes4119 7 місяців тому

    6:45 yah ... that didn't age well .... now the zombies and the POC's all can shoplift together

  • @aaronvelasquez7065
    @aaronvelasquez7065 Рік тому +7

    That kimchi story was a little scary ngl

  • @MexicanTeTe
    @MexicanTeTe 2 роки тому +7

    Shocked to learn Sharon would be openly racist like that. It sounds like some Jeffrey Star shit, except Sharon is actually talented and funny. So it's sad to know I won't be able support them anymore. 😕

  • @hannahmangus4392
    @hannahmangus4392 2 роки тому +5

    Jaremi Formerlyknownasphiphi is a great drag name

  • @Claire_by_the_Seashore
    @Claire_by_the_Seashore 5 місяців тому +1

    As I watched Sharon on RPDR, I wasn’t into her vibe. I’m not into actual creepy. People can be legit creepy unintentionally. That’s enough for me. Then I noticed her come into the workroom in a McCain Palin shirt. I was like, “it’s too early for irony and too late for her to have some damn sense.” The next time in the workroom- Nixon Now. “Ok. Could be irony. But that’s not feeling like Nixon humor.” Because there’s no such thing as Nixon humor. So I just continued to watch, in particular, my Queen, Latrice Royale. She was polite to Sharon but she didn’t eff with her. If Latrice and Willam could work out a vibe together, there was a reason they weren’t vibing and it wasn’t because of Latrice. When the stuff came out about Sharon a few years ago, I understood.

    • @Claire_by_the_Seashore
      @Claire_by_the_Seashore 5 місяців тому

      Also, Bob, what you were saying to Dakota is 100% legitimate. I was watching Latrice be polite and uncomfortable with Sharon because that’s all Latrice could do. What was Latrice going to do in 2010? “Excuse me everyone. Pardon me, but this queen here is racist and should be excluded from activities until she learns the error of her ways”? That’s not reality and even if it was, so many people would have come against Latrice for being weak stomached or whatever bs people say to continue being racist. If that’s what it was like for Latrice, 100% Bob is entitled to legitimate feelings after trying to work with Sharon.

  • @tadatada1234
    @tadatada1234 2 роки тому +12

    are you going to do all stars winners as well? i’d love to hear bob’s opinions considering their 2 favourite queens are all stars winners

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +12

      no plans yet bc monet's would be hours long 😂

    • @mourningdove5591
      @mourningdove5591 2 роки тому +3

      @@bobtdqvideos you shouldn't do all stars winners as a tribute to bob thinking real winners are more impressive than all stars winners

  • @Redst100
    @Redst100 2 роки тому +12

    not 14 minutes. Let me grab a drink

  • @rf1206
    @rf1206 2 роки тому +10

    I'm ready 🤭👀👀👀

  • @sespringstead24
    @sespringstead24 2 роки тому +2

    The roots of newton Iowa really come out after all.

  • @AbsolPowers
    @AbsolPowers 2 роки тому +10

    OhHH shirlene needles

  • @yippie_kai_yay
    @yippie_kai_yay 2 роки тому +15

    Are you doing Jinxx or Chad next?

  • @reece7137
    @reece7137 2 роки тому +3

    hasn't jaremi said a few times that the sharon fight on s4 was fake and they were playing it up for the show

  • @blakejohnston6848
    @blakejohnston6848 2 роки тому +8

    I wonder who the New York queens were

  • @MS-dh9gh
    @MS-dh9gh 2 роки тому +16

    Where can I find more info about jaremi coming out and saying that Sharon was actually being hurtful and an instigator? Was Jaremi on sibling rivalry?

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +2

      not yet no

    • @Babyteef
      @Babyteef 2 роки тому +1

      I think gay green has a bit more info. I dont know much myself but i do know Jaremi and Sharon knew their fued would help them get far in the season so they’d make up their fights beforehand however Jaremi noticed alot of her behavior beforehand. The whole n word and r word argument that shows up in this video is probably one red flag Jaremi saw.

  • @josmyth5579
    @josmyth5579 Рік тому +2

    Fi fi called her out immediately but they edited it to make her look like a winger

  • @arthursdl
    @arthursdl 2 роки тому +2

    11:30 Did she said something worse than the n-word there?

    • @mariahsampaga
      @mariahsampaga 2 роки тому +4

      n-word with the “er” at the end i think

  • @xowhitox
    @xowhitox 2 роки тому +4

    Aren’t we called siblings 🤷🏽‍♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @LiterallyMarieee
    @LiterallyMarieee 3 місяці тому

    I’ll never forget that interview with Sharon when she starts crying after being asked to stop saying the n word

  • @cunderw12
    @cunderw12 2 роки тому +16

    What’s the tea? How much was Bianca making a month as a drag Queen, and how much was Trixie making a month as a drag Queen?
    You know what, a good podcast would be the highest booking fee for each season of Ru girls.

  • @flicfan416
    @flicfan416 Рік тому +1

    3:55 ok but between us girls, i totally get where sharon is coming from here

    • @CarlyGayJepsen
      @CarlyGayJepsen Рік тому +4

      Nah. “I’m very sensitive” yet her sensitivity suddenly disappears when it comes to her treatment of POC and her rac*sm and she has no problem with being a racist piece of trash that “”””jokes”””””about topics like that

  • @aramismartin8117
    @aramismartin8117 2 роки тому +3

    “You have to understand..this is her New York debut..she hasn’t even been on drag race yet” that’s not relevant lol

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +5

      yes it was because any decent person would act extra nice when they're trying to perform at a new place

    • @aramismartin8117
      @aramismartin8117 2 роки тому

      @@bobtdqvideos if this was the 1000th time she performed there it would still be equally as unacceptable. Familiarity with a nonblack person does not allow them any more access to these things. That was the only point I was trying to make. I think bobs absence of a reaction is pretty representative of my point. It wasn’t a necessarily relevant statement bc if that detail was different it wouldn’t change the issue. and the belief that familiarity should grant access is why so many of these “woke” or “down” folks think they’re the exception and can get away w it. You’re not allowed to do things like say nga regardless of how well we know or like you or regardless of how familiar you are and whether this is your 1st time in my house or your 1000th time in my house I’m equally as hurt by the action. I’d be MORE even if a familiar person who id let into my safe space took me off guard by doing or saying something like this.

  • @enriquecastaneda3514
    @enriquecastaneda3514 2 роки тому +3

    Aquaria about to come for Bob. Doesn’t Bob know Aquaria never even met Sharon?

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +10

      why are there photoshoots of them together 😂

    • @enriquecastaneda3514
      @enriquecastaneda3514 2 роки тому +4

      @@bobtdqvideos She 👏🏽 doesn’t 👏🏽 know 👏🏽 her 👏🏽
      😂😂😂 How many times does she have to make it clear?

    • @eleventyseven3742
      @eleventyseven3742 Рік тому

      ​@@enriquecastaneda3514girl she was her drag mom before she distanced herself from Sharon wdym??

    • @enriquecastaneda3514
      @enriquecastaneda3514 Рік тому +2

      @@eleventyseven3742 It was a joke girl. When 💩 hit the fan with Sharon Aquaria tried to say she wasn’t her drag mother and she didn’t even really know her.

  • @RG-fr5cb
    @RG-fr5cb 2 роки тому +2

    What was the one with the cigarettes, i don't understand

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому

      are they "****** cigarettes" sharon asked a black drag queen

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому

      are they "****** cigarettes" sharon asked a black drag queen

    • @ytscrownjewell
      @ytscrownjewell 2 роки тому +2

      N word cigarettes meaning the kind that a Black person would stereotypically buy, probably Newport

    • @sugdendingles
      @sugdendingles Рік тому

      haus of haunt was intentionally and insanely problematic to get people to feel uncomfortable and talking as a transgressive form to never forget where you come from and who oppresses you. it’s something that is okay for a black punk person to do because they are the oppressed. for sharon, who i don’t believe is actually racist, failed to realize that at the end of the day she’s a white man, and it’s not a white person’s place to try and get those clogs turning and especially not to do it to a black person.

  • @1rkhachatryan
    @1rkhachatryan 2 роки тому +4

    Girl these effects 😂😂😂😂....

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому

      which part 😝

    • @1rkhachatryan
      @1rkhachatryan 2 роки тому +1

      @@bobtdqvideos the rain took me out LOL!!

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +2

      😂 that was fun for me😆 but also it's to ruin the quality a little ! so the hd clear form is still just on their patreon

    • @1rkhachatryan
      @1rkhachatryan 2 роки тому +2

      @@bobtdqvideos I know why you do it, just wasn't expecting that xD.

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +1

      😂 oops

  • @september5671
    @september5671 2 роки тому +4

    Side note; House of Haunt isn't a real thing, and Aquaria is not Sharons Drag daughter or sister

    • @donm3106
      @donm3106 2 роки тому +4

      house of haunt WAS a real thing.

    • @eleventyseven3742
      @eleventyseven3742 Рік тому +2

      She was her drag mother before she distanced herself from her

    • @sugdendingles
      @sugdendingles Рік тому +1

      sharon was never aquaria’s official drag mother she just called herself that, but aquaria was sharon’s biggest fan

  • @marqueamore8467
    @marqueamore8467 2 роки тому +24

    Bob I didn’t appreciate on one of Sharon’s live videos ..she was saying that she didn’t have time to do live videos and and that none of the successful queens who are winners from Drag Race have the time to go live and interact with their fans. She mentioned queens like Alaska, Aquaria and Jihnx and skipped over you, when you are extremely successful. She’s racist. Be careful with her.

    • @jordann96x
      @jordann96x 2 роки тому

      you didnt appreciate that she skipped over bob but bob doesn't go live either neither does any of them? lol

    • @bobtdqvideos
      @bobtdqvideos  2 роки тому +30

      i think bob knows she's racist if you watched this video

    • @bondfool
      @bondfool 2 роки тому +14

      This is not Bob’s channel. Bob will not see this.

    • @RubyConn
      @RubyConn 2 роки тому +12

      @@jordann96x Bob does occasionally go live in multiple different forums. The way you are defending Sharon is not good. If you are fully aware of Sharon’s behavior and are still defending them, you might be on the wrong channel.

    • @mourningdove5591
      @mourningdove5591 2 роки тому +3

      @@bondfool bob actually might see this as bob is bobtdqvideos' #1 stan

  • @blondebonetglamsey
    @blondebonetglamsey 7 місяців тому

    which one is the higher voice, is it bob?

  • @KJ_nyc
    @KJ_nyc 2 роки тому +7

    Never liked Sharon Needles. Never appreciated her talent. If I never hear her name again, just fine with me. I feel sorry for the fans who feed her money. Lots of suckers, I suppose. No one should be permitted to put nasty on a pedestal and win praise for it. Totally in favor of public-shunning.

  • @shawnbay2211
    @shawnbay2211 2 роки тому +7

    I’m more worried that the show enabled this. I heard the edit downplayed her questionable behaviour. If the show kept it real, maybe fans wouldn’t idolise a false idea of her.

  • @guischwartz
    @guischwartz 2 роки тому +4

    Please do Violet Chachki!!!

  • @michaelmcclure8782
    @michaelmcclure8782 2 роки тому +8

    Love how bob was enabling Sharrons behavior in 2018 and Monet was not having it

  • @8_bruh_8
    @8_bruh_8 11 місяців тому +4

    Bob didn’t give a shit about Sharon saying the N word until she was told she should. That’s weak AF.

  • @warrenjohns3194
    @warrenjohns3194 6 місяців тому

    i love share being a chaotic yinzer

  • @jimmymcfan
    @jimmymcfan Рік тому

    .these are so cool.

  • @voidfly
    @voidfly Рік тому +1

    Aquaria fully was SN's drag daughter tbh

    • @paulbrown5934
      @paulbrown5934 10 місяців тому

      She's been emancipated from her for a long time

    • @voidfly
      @voidfly 10 місяців тому

      @@paulbrown5934 yes but Aquaria said she was *never* her daughter

  • @cmlee3143
    @cmlee3143 2 роки тому +7

    Not Sharon Rogan Needles 😵‍💫

  • @manuelmoralez6461
    @manuelmoralez6461 2 роки тому

    Wait who are the other New York queens