Hi everyone. Just thought I would clear some things up. I apologize if I came across as "entitled" in this video - that was not my intention at all. My intention was to simply provide an honest recount of this flight experience. I had never seen an aircraft interior in such a state before, hence my "harsh" comments towards it. I would still prefer JetBlue over any low-cost airline no doubt and, as I state in the video, would fly them and their E190 again 100%.
That filthy seating and pockets are absolutely unacceptable. It seems like while they focus on their newer high tech planes, they are completely neglecting their old ones. That's what I felt you expressed in this video.
you had the right to say whatever you said. and if people dont like it then they can go off somewhere. this is your channel, you have the right to be however you want to be. please, I loved this video and had no issue with it. plenty of other youtbers get to be the way they like and people love them.
Exactly - dirty seats and poorly kept cabin and all, this plane is WAY better than any existing A220 (or for that matter any of jetBlue's Airbus aircraft) because the E190 has WAY better engines, they're truly reliable, they haven't shut down in flight in a decade, unlike jetBlue's Airbus fleet whose engines keep shutting down every now and then in flight. My advice is, fly a jetBlue E190 whenever possible, for that reason alone.
@@Im_not_good_with_names they'll definitely have to go when they reach the limit of their cycles, but the reliability of the E190's CF34-10E6 engines will definitely be missed - a jetBlue E190 engine hasn't shut down in flight in over a decade, unlike the rest of jetBlue's fleet.
The E190s are typically used in short low density flights about one hour long, so they quickly built up cycles and get worn out. But at least their doors don't fall off after less than 3 years of use.
and at least the E190 has WAY better engines, they're truly reliable, they haven't shut down in flight in a decade, unlike the P&W Geared TurboFailure on the A220.
@@rafaelwilks The Airbus A220 compares to the Embraer E-190 like a Tesla Model 3 compares to a Toyota Corolla. It is a way too advanced design and there are many early adopter flaws. However the Canadians were dishonest of subsidizing the development costs of the A220, so now Embraer has to compete against it for the same sale price. Imagine if the Model 3 was sold at the same price as a Corolla.
@@gteixeira in terms of airframe, maybe comparing the A220 to the E190 might be like comparing a Tesla to a Corolla, but as far as concerns the powerplant, the LEAP has already proven itself to be, on the whole, generally somewhere in the region between two to four times more reliable than the GTF. The A220 would invariably be better if it had LEAP power.
@@rafaelwilks Except it doesn't and if they fail on such basic design decisions, imagine on the small stuff we can't see until a door flies off the plane.
Okay, we're all in agreement N306JB needs to be pulled from the line for a day of deep cleaning and repairs, but it was a comfortable and not outrageously priced flight. Would you have prefered Allegient or Frontier? Oh, and less than 15 minutes late is considered an on-time arrival.
Agreed. Thanks for the comment. I never said I wouldn't fly JetBlue over any low-cost airline. Apologies that my concerns over the state of the cabin insulted you.
Some people don’t know how to act on a plane and they think it’s a good idea to ruin a good plane seat Your absolutely right That seat did look terrible Whoever ruined that seat should be banned from flying
As someone who formerly worked with B6. I always enjoyed working the 190s despite their tight bin compartments. Everyone hates them but I even bought a lanyard and keychain for them. Was able to get a stack of the old emergency cards from storage before I left as a memory of them.
Flew on many of JetBlue’s E-190s from their first few years. In fact, just after JetBlue started service to Austin, I flew my first E-190. Close to a 4 1/2 hour flight. Since then out of JFK, flew to ROC, ORD, BOS and even PIT (service was dropped). Never a problem then. Just prior to this past Christmas, went down on a E-190 JFK-PBI. Full flight. Everybody had a big bag as carry-on. Many of them had to be gate checked because they couldn’t fit into the overhead compartments. Flew on N232JB and have known that these aircraft were being fazed out. In fact, JetBlue had already sold off 4 to a regional carrier in Australia. This aircraft I flew was showing its age. I’m sure they all are. They’re not going to put any more money into them although they should keep them clean and shiney inside. Still a big JetBlue fan!
That's just neglect, not aircraft age. I flew Champion quite a bit back in the day. By the time they shut down in 2008, some of their 727s were 40+ years old. Those planes were never dirty and they kept up with wear & tear repairs. As for your landing, I've been through much harder landings.
If it weren't for how worn they were, I would still look forward to riding on jetBlue's E190s - since they are really cozy aircraft (though the window alignment does bug me a little heh)
I actually got to fly out of TWAs old terminal in 1985 and was kind of wowed by it, since I had seen a lot of movies that had filmed there…it was a bit surreal visiting again all these years later this past October when we had some time to kill before our flight home to Southern California
The E190s are on the way out at JetBlue, so besides some cleaning and light cabin/IFE repairs, there isn't much being spent on the customer-facing portions of the experience. The napkins in the overhead panels were probably put there by a customer on a prior flight, maybe they were cold or perhaps there was water dripping from condensation. The dirty seats and ripped seatback pockets are regretful but this aircraft type is steadily leaving the JetBlue fleet and will be completely gone some time in 2025. It does detract from the overall experience, I agree, but it also makes little sense to spend on cosmetics if that very aircraft is to be withdrawn within weeks or months. The seats themselves are still quite comfortable and the windows are large (unless compared to the A220). As for the IFE, be glad you have it! Most airlines don't put any sort of IFE in planes this small that are typically used on flights of 2 hours or less, so if you had working satellite tv that's better than you'd get on some larger equipment from United or American. For the record, JetBlue has never charged for tv, movies or FlyFi. The card swipe option was put in the seats when the planes were delivered but they were not used.
I flew B6 in 2000 from BUF to JFK. The inflight TV was not working. They gave me a voucher to pay for using the TV on a future flight, so I think they did charge for a short time in the first year. I still have that voucher somewhere because I never used it while they did charge and didn’t fly B6 again until they opened the LGB hub.
@@erik_griswold I'm sure somebody from JetBlue might remember if they ever used the swipes but I didn't think they ever charged for watching tv or using the seatback screens. If they did, it was for a very short time. Regardless of whether they charged for them or not, JetBlue used to give vouchers when the system was inoperative because for many people that was a big part of the overall JB experience. I'm guessing they don't do that any more.
@@erik_griswold If they did charge for the tv usage, it was on a trial basis or for a very short time. The issue is that the seats are not individually controlled, and neither the software nor the flight attendants could control which screens were on versus which were dark. My understanding is that the swipes were there for 'future possibilities' -David Neeleman was an innovator while leading JetBlue, and he may have envisioned using the card swipes for a buy on board program, pay per view movies, or perhaps the tvs once the technical features were added and working. Or maybe a combination of all of the above. The refund may have been a goodwill credit or voucher. People sort of expected the tvs - it was an early part of the JetBlue brand - and when the screens were dark, passengers were often left disappointed. A credit goes a little way to rectifying that.
TWA..........i flew TWA from Minneapolis to then..idlewild airport...16 yrs old, first time flying.........lots of shake, rattle and roll when those big four engines started up and noisy too...but being my first time flying ...it was fantastic.....thanks for the TWA info....just subbed to...✈✈
I flew one of JetBlue's e190s (N266JB) in the summer of 2021, it was looking long in the tooth but still enjoyed it and glad to have a seat back monitor (even with as ancient as it is). With regards to the TWA hotel, it's definitely worth a visit if you have a long enough layover. Maybe even get a day room to relax and freshen up if you don't have lounge access. It's definitely not for a budget traveller. I've stayed there twice & as a history fan and avgeek, it's worth it. You can't beat the history, style or convenience, especially if you're flying JetBlue. I'll be the first to admit it has room for improvement.
i used to be a former mechanic for jet blue from the beginning of the airline start 2000 to 2020, and i can verify that the upholstery and interiors have not been maintained properly, Most of the older 320's have just been refurbished with its interior in 2020 the year i left. They are not going to do anything with 190s at all until they fully breakdown. I worked with the first 2 ceos of this airline founder david nelleman and then David Barger and everything was perfect back then. In 2014 after David left the quality of everything started to decline under the new CEO robin Hayes former British Airways and it was like they didn't care about anything. The crew morale also declined in all aspects. in the 2000's this was one of the best airlines to fly domestically in my opinion however now i wish i could say the same. By the way thanks for your report and analyses, im just sharing you my report in what i saw before i left.
Wow. Great story. That's a shame because Neelman was brilliant in the beginning with founding the airline. As a former TWA employee from JFK, we flew very old airplanes, and I can't recall any of them in the condition that that 190 was in, not even close.
@@TWA727 yes I used to fly on very old TWA planes in the past they were in spotless this is how it used to be when neeleman was in charge if you said something they would act on it immediately after Hayes came there was a ticket system and it fell under priorities which almost would get ignored every single time
I am not very happy with JetBlue’s current CEO. Robin Hayes needs to go and be replaced with someone who is better qualified. On the other hand, I am much happier with Delta’s CEO Ed Bastian and United’s CEO Scott Kirby.
Thanks for your very frank assessment of JetBlue in your twenty years as a aircraft mechanic. I flew JetBlue from the very beginning mainly business frequently until I retired in 2014. I even helped open T5 as a loyal JetBlue TRUEBLUE flyer on a warm Saturday in August 2008. But things started changing over the next five years. I did notice even before I retired a change in spirit at JetBlue. And just before this Christmas flew to PBI on a E-190 and gate and cabin people just lacked the spirit of the early days. From what I’ve been reading recently in aviation circles and Wall St talk, JetBlue is heading into “strong head winds” financially. Let’s hope the new management can turn it around. ✈️
Enjoyed your video. You really pointed out well the sad condition of that aircraft. As I mentioned on your thread below, I'm a former TWA employee from JFK, and even though we flew old airplanes, we never put an aircraft in service that was in that kind of deteriorating condition. The landing, however, didn't appear to be that bad. I've certainly had a lot worse. My guess is it probably was the FO.
All I can say about that plane is WOW. That is horrendous. But btw it’s also so cool whenever you land in Chicago and show us your landing on FlightRadar24 because I can always see my hometown 😂
I appreciate this review video. I am a pilot, retired, from United. I have seen things over the years. I DO sometimes buy tickets on other airlines, to build miles.
Had this same experience on JetBlue recently. Originally was scheduled 2 a220 flights, 1 a320, and 1 e190. Naturally JetBlue changed my flights and I flew on 2 of the oldest e190’s. First flight the headphone jack was non functioning, second flight all of the screens were non functioning.
That grounded A321neo is likely grounded due to Pratt & Whitney engine issues that plagued the Indian airlines a lot, completely shutting Go First Airlines down and causing IndiGo to lose lots of its fleet.
It’s amazing how ratty the E Jets have gotten. This year my sister was flying on one out of LGA and told me it was the worst plane she’d ever been on. I was shocked to hear that because it was a republic 170. They were the nicest planes I’d ever been on when they first came out. Amazing how disgusting some have become. Not holding up well at all.
Never flew on the small jet blue planes but used to fly very often from LGB to IAD to visit my mom before she died in2005. They were a pretty good airline then and I never had a problem with the aircraft or service. Never thought of them being a budget airline then.
Just flew two of them, from Boston to Fort Myers with a layover in DC, they were both definitely a bit dated but overall very clean and the flights were on time.
11:59 - 12:04 Yes for movies IIRC. Had a few flights between 2014 - 2016 or so where they disabled it to give us movies for free to make up for delays. 😁 Still, getting movies on their refreshed A320s free was such a dramatic improvement when I first experienced the refreshed cabin like 2 years ago I think.
Another excellent video! This is shocking to see this from jetBlue as my past experiences flying on them (all in A320s) were fantastic. What I would do if I were you is probably contact their customer care department and share these pictures with them. As compensation they might give you some points or a voucher for your inconvenience. Regardless this is unacceptable and jetBlue should take responsibility for keeping up its standards. Thanks for sharing!
2048 has been parked there for a while since we’re taking parts off of it and applying it to other 321 neos. It may be a while before it goes back into service.
I loved flying Jet Blue Brazilian E190 from MCO to CUN many years ago,they had three daily flight back then,two other flights were on the A 319/20...They were in great shape and the main reason was the 2-2 seating...and some how always landed 15 minutes earlier..It's very sad that Jet Blue will let them get in that condition.
I flew on it from JFK - Orlando and it wasn't too bad I was sat in row 1 with some nice leg room is small size did freak me out as its smaller then other E190s I've flown on but the entertainment was class.
I enjoyed the Embrear 190 on Lot Airlines from Warsaw to London Heathrow. The seating was good. No inflight entertainment but, the seating was in good condition.
Went on one of the E190s last year, and it was definitely showing its age - especially the IFE having been on one of the A320s with the cabin retrofit the year before. I can't wait to see them replaced with the A220s, though I did like the 2x2 seating of the E90s the 2x3 is really nice depending on if traveling alone OR with one person, or with both my parents. Plus, with the E90s, I don't exactly like the window aignment (being an AV geek) and find that if I want to brace my arm up against the wall panel for stability, it's hard since the 190's wall paneling feels (to me at least) slick compared to the A320's.
I flew my first time on JetBlue with E190, and it was exciting. Pilots say Jetblue wants the A220 to replace the E190 rather than the E2, the main reason is Airbus aircraft with better deal and easier training.
Forget the cosmetic issues, what about the engines and overall updates for the airplane to FLY! Were you able to check on the electrical wiring, gas tanks and engines not to forget the competency of the Pilots? I doubt not.
I fly a lot and nearly 2/3 of my travel involve an Embraer leg to/from the hub. I think E17x/E19x cabin are not well designed. I have never seen a very clean E17x/E19x, even very new jets. The cabin fixtures have a lot of small openings, gaps and weird curvatures, so I think it's harder to keep clean and get into the nooks and crannies. These gaps and opening changes when panels flex during inflight, so I think it can trap a lot of debris. As others also pointed out, this is often used on short flights, so they get a lot of passenger cycles. Also, I think the E17x/E19x have also a questionable air circulation system. If you pay attention to the ceiling, bin panels, and air vents, you will see a lot of dark smudges, like the burnt oil particles that are blown back into the cabin. I do agree they should at least wipe down the seat and tray table.
Interesting take and definitely a great watch! I've flown JetBlue from London to Boston and then Boston to DC 5 times this year and always had a good time. I may have just been lucky with these e190s I have been in stateside, but my favourite carrier to fly on for sure. free wifi, free snacks, always helpful staff etc. But I hope this is just a bad plane in a good batch. Thanks for making the time to make this, was fun.
I just flew on a JetBlue E190. When our plane pulled up at the gate, my military spouse said “wow” and made a perplexed face. The exterior of the plane looked like it took heavy enemy fire in a war zone. It was also the most worn down disgusting cabin I’ve ever been on. The life vests were literally flying out from under the seats when we landed. We told flight crew when we deplaned and they said the under seat life vests go flying during every landing!
As a retired pilot (United) I do not know if the JetBlue E190s are part of their "mainline" fleet, or are operated differently. Meaning? I do not know if they are contracted out. Would like to know
Oh man, not this coming week, but next week, I'm flying HPN-TPA (and then TPA-HPN), and wonder if I am gonna get one of the refreshed 320s, or one of the 10 remaining ones. 😂
The PANYNJ needs to get its ass handed to them over this. They had already, years ago, lost a case over photography at the PA Bus terminal, and need to have their asses handed to them again over stuff like this (since the TWA terminal is a landmark, of course it's gonna bephotographed!) .
Yikes! That sure does not look like a good experience. I personally would have flown Southwest nonstop RDU-MDW. Same 32 inch pitch assuming you get a 737-800 or Max.
Thanks a lot. The seat itself was great in terms of comfort and I didn't mind the old TVs. The cleanliness sucked though but it was an experience for sure.
I’ve never even flown an E190. This video still tells me what to expect when flying the JetBlue E190. Very outdated indeed. I have no saying on how to feel when those planes retire. Accept maybe make the passenger cabin look more welcoming. As for the A220-300 replacing them along with older A320s that plane is state of the art. Looks like a spaceship.
Random YT algorithm viewer here. IMO, JB has totally lost what made it special before. Now, it's "just another airline". There used to be a time when I'd board this young, vibrant, airline with quirks such as unusual snacks (still love the Terra chips when I find them) and crews that seemed to have genuine fun being onboard and that vibe absolutely transferred to us passengers. We all willingly helped in the general cleaning of our seats because we knew the previous passengers did for us (pay it forward concept before that was a thing). Now, I fly JB because I sorta have to and I feel miserable in most of those flights... :(
I flew a connection flight JB bos to jfk on a a320 so clean but then I did jfk to sav on a e190 my TV's didn't work, BOY THE TOILET WAS SOOO DIRTY, THERE WAS SOME WEIRD GOOD NEXT TO MY SEAT, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT KIND OF INK WAS MUSHED INTO THE FLOOR AND THE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF ME HAD TONS OF DIRT ON THE SEAT (no offense to jet blue just get rid of the E190s)
Cool Video ASAviation! I agree that JetBlue E190s are kinda aging but I honestly belive that they should be reworked rather than retired, the A220 doesn't really fit the gap in the market the same way the E190s did, for example some of the Nantucket/Cape Cod Flights from JetBlue couldn't realy have A220 operations...
Thanks very much. I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if JetBlue will cede routes like ACK to Cape Air or AA completely or try to see if they can get the airports upgraded. But the A220 is a good short field plane too so it could serve those routes too.
@@ASAviation true, but it’s really about capacity… but I doubt JetBlue is going to let go of its dominance over cape cod, it’s already given up a lot in the northeast alliance… I honestly feel like the E190-E2 would’ve been a good option for JetBlue despite it not selling well…
It’s a shame that JetBlue is treating their E190s like this. I flew on two from London City Airport to Edinburgh (and back) in the spring and BA has taken good care of their aircraft. I’ve never flown on JetBlue (they don’t fly into DSM - closest is probably O’Hare or KCI) but this video leaves a bad taste in my mouth for trying their product.
This doesn't apply to all JetBlue nor all their E190s. I have flown their E190 before this and that aircraft was in great condition albeit the same old cabin. JetBlue maintains their planes well generally, this was an outlier incident. Their A320, A220, A321 products are day and night compared to the 190.
No matter how little you pay, it's only fair to expect the basic bottom line decency in cleanliness and professionalism. No frills doesn't mean being disgusting guys
You got to know that airlines suffered during the pandemic and they are trying to make for lost time but theres no excuse for a dirty seat smile and be happy jerry
lol no, dirty seats and poorly kept cabin and all, this plane is WAY better than any existing A220, because the E190 has WAY better engines, they're truly reliable, they haven't shut down in flight in a decade, unlike the P&W Geared TurboFailure on the A220.
This reminds me of US air LMAO Edit: the credit card machines were to buy merch im pretty sure. In the early 2000s merch and certain drinks were a big thing. AirTran used to have these fuse drinks they were so good! You had to buy them and could only use a credit card. This was before the iPhone so thats why they went with seats.
Thanks for your review. I’ve flown those e190’s many times from BOS to JFK. I’ve found the flights comfortable and “yes” the planes are worn. However given the low cost and it’s better than driving, I don’t have a problem with it all. In fact doesn’t even cross my mind. So your assessment is harsh and unfair to JetBlue. If you are looking for perfection you should pay more for first class with another airline. Sounds like that’s more your “fit”.
I took it in 2018 ORD-JFK. The E190 I flew on that flight was in much better condition on the inside. Great flight too as back then, JetBlue's inflight snack offering was a little more generous with a full large bag of TERRA chips.
Seriously, though, dirty seats and poorly kept cabin and all, this plane is WAY better than any existing A220, because the E190 has WAY better engines, they're truly reliable, they haven't shut down in flight in a decade, unlike the P&W Geared TurboFailure on the A220.
flying Jetblue gave you the "blues"........I wonder and ponder how will acquiring Spirit airlines help JetBlue???.....jet was not exactly in "mint" condition.....as more lines merge.....service takes a back seat......however in the long term such consolidation opens up opportunities for new entrants like Avelo and Breeze.....the airline industry seems forever in a state of flux.....
This definitely does not apply to all JetBlue flights, I know it was a one-time thing. It's not a good look still and I hope the aircraft received a nice cleaning since.
JetBlue has definitely slipped over the years. Too bad. Like all of them, they were good at one time. Now, they're merging with Spirit?!?!?! God help us!
Good grief!! I'm so sorry you had to ride in a flying dumpster. And no, no it was NOT too harsh to say - you said it perfectly!! What in the world happened to Jet Blue? How do you go from a fairly decent airline to this???
Thank you for your comment. This does not apply to JetBlue overall, it was definitely a one-time issue. Hopefully, the plane has received a nice cabin clean since this flight.
@@ASAviation i enjoy your reviews. Thank you for showing everyone that, no, not everything is perfect in the real world. It gives everyone a true insight to what could happen.
the A220 engines are dumpster engines - seriously, dirty seats and poorly kept cabin and all, this plane is WAY better than any existing A220, because the E190 has WAY better engines, they're truly reliable, they haven't shut down in flight in a decade, unlike the P&W Geared TurboFailure on the A220.
You don't need to be a pilot to say it felt a certain way, as it's obviously from the passenger's perspective (and even then, between passengers, experiences differ too!)
Hi everyone. Just thought I would clear some things up. I apologize if I came across as "entitled" in this video - that was not my intention at all. My intention was to simply provide an honest recount of this flight experience. I had never seen an aircraft interior in such a state before, hence my "harsh" comments towards it. I would still prefer JetBlue over any low-cost airline no doubt and, as I state in the video, would fly them and their E190 again 100%.
Not entitled at all those planes got to go already
That filthy seating and pockets are absolutely unacceptable. It seems like while they focus on their newer high tech planes, they are completely neglecting their old ones. That's what I felt you expressed in this video.
you had the right to say whatever you said. and if people dont like it then they can go off somewhere. this is your channel, you have the right to be however you want to be. please, I loved this video and had no issue with it. plenty of other youtbers get to be the way they like and people love them.
Exactly - dirty seats and poorly kept cabin and all, this plane is WAY better than any existing A220 (or for that matter any of jetBlue's Airbus aircraft) because the E190 has WAY better engines, they're truly reliable, they haven't shut down in flight in a decade, unlike jetBlue's Airbus fleet whose engines keep shutting down every now and then in flight. My advice is, fly a jetBlue E190 whenever possible, for that reason alone.
@@Im_not_good_with_names they'll definitely have to go when they reach the limit of their cycles, but the reliability of the E190's CF34-10E6 engines will definitely be missed - a jetBlue E190 engine hasn't shut down in flight in over a decade, unlike the rest of jetBlue's fleet.
The E190s are typically used in short low density flights about one hour long, so they quickly built up cycles and get worn out. But at least their doors don't fall off after less than 3 years of use.
Three MONTHS of service.
and at least the E190 has WAY better engines, they're truly reliable, they haven't shut down in flight in a decade, unlike the P&W Geared TurboFailure on the A220.
@@rafaelwilks The Airbus A220 compares to the Embraer E-190 like a Tesla Model 3 compares to a Toyota Corolla. It is a way too advanced design and there are many early adopter flaws. However the Canadians were dishonest of subsidizing the development costs of the A220, so now Embraer has to compete against it for the same sale price. Imagine if the Model 3 was sold at the same price as a Corolla.
@@gteixeira in terms of airframe, maybe comparing the A220 to the E190 might be like comparing a Tesla to a Corolla, but as far as concerns the powerplant, the LEAP has already proven itself to be, on the whole, generally somewhere in the region between two to four times more reliable than the GTF. The A220 would invariably be better if it had LEAP power.
@@rafaelwilks Except it doesn't and if they fail on such basic design decisions, imagine on the small stuff we can't see until a door flies off the plane.
Okay, we're all in agreement N306JB needs to be pulled from the line for a day of deep cleaning and repairs, but it was a comfortable and not outrageously priced flight. Would you have prefered Allegient or Frontier? Oh, and less than 15 minutes late is considered an on-time arrival.
Agreed. Thanks for the comment. I never said I wouldn't fly JetBlue over any low-cost airline. Apologies that my concerns over the state of the cabin insulted you.
Frontiers planes are new.
@@ASAviation Gah. That commenter MUST work for the airline in question.
No matter how much you pay, you expect the basic bottom line decency in cleanliness and professionalism.
Some people don’t know how to act on a plane and they think it’s a good idea to ruin a good plane seat
Your absolutely right
That seat did look terrible
Whoever ruined that seat should be banned from flying
As someone who formerly worked with B6. I always enjoyed working the 190s despite their tight bin compartments. Everyone hates them but I even bought a lanyard and keychain for them. Was able to get a stack of the old emergency cards from storage before I left as a memory of them.
Flew on many of JetBlue’s E-190s from their first few years. In fact, just after JetBlue started service to Austin, I flew my first E-190. Close to a 4 1/2 hour flight. Since then out of JFK, flew to ROC, ORD, BOS and even PIT (service was dropped). Never a problem then. Just prior to this past Christmas, went down on a E-190 JFK-PBI. Full flight. Everybody had a big bag as carry-on. Many of them had to be gate checked because they couldn’t fit into the overhead compartments. Flew on N232JB and have known that these aircraft were being fazed out. In fact, JetBlue had already sold off 4 to a regional carrier in Australia. This aircraft I flew was showing its age. I’m sure they all are. They’re not going to put any more money into them although they should keep them clean and shiney inside. Still a big JetBlue fan!
That's just neglect, not aircraft age. I flew Champion quite a bit back in the day. By the time they shut down in 2008, some of their 727s were 40+ years old. Those planes were never dirty and they kept up with wear & tear repairs. As for your landing, I've been through much harder landings.
Love the video and appreciate all the little details!
Great video! I'm glad to see an honest review without any sugarcoating provided! I don't think I have ever experienced such a poor flight ever.
I love that little Embraer aircraft! I have taken it so many times from FLL to JAX every few months. The last two times it has been changed to A320.
If it weren't for how worn they were, I would still look forward to riding on jetBlue's E190s - since they are really cozy aircraft (though the window alignment does bug me a little heh)
You didn’t sound or appear entitled in your post. I really appreciate the information. Thanks-
I actually got to fly out of TWAs old terminal in 1985 and was kind of wowed by it, since I had seen a lot of movies that had filmed there…it was a bit surreal visiting again all these years later this past October when we had some time to kill before our flight home to Southern California
The E190s are on the way out at JetBlue, so besides some cleaning and light cabin/IFE repairs, there isn't much being spent on the customer-facing portions of the experience. The napkins in the overhead panels were probably put there by a customer on a prior flight, maybe they were cold or perhaps there was water dripping from condensation. The dirty seats and ripped seatback pockets are regretful but this aircraft type is steadily leaving the JetBlue fleet and will be completely gone some time in 2025. It does detract from the overall experience, I agree, but it also makes little sense to spend on cosmetics if that very aircraft is to be withdrawn within weeks or months. The seats themselves are still quite comfortable and the windows are large (unless compared to the A220). As for the IFE, be glad you have it! Most airlines don't put any sort of IFE in planes this small that are typically used on flights of 2 hours or less, so if you had working satellite tv that's better than you'd get on some larger equipment from United or American.
For the record, JetBlue has never charged for tv, movies or FlyFi. The card swipe option was put in the seats when the planes were delivered but they were not used.
I flew B6 in 2000 from BUF to JFK. The inflight TV was not working. They gave me a voucher to pay for using the TV on a future flight, so I think they did charge for a short time in the first year. I still have that voucher somewhere because I never used it while they did charge and didn’t fly B6 again until they opened the LGB hub.
@@erik_griswold I'm sure somebody from JetBlue might remember if they ever used the swipes but I didn't think they ever charged for watching tv or using the seatback screens. If they did, it was for a very short time. Regardless of whether they charged for them or not, JetBlue used to give vouchers when the system was inoperative because for many people that was a big part of the overall JB experience. I'm guessing they don't do that any more.
@@erik_griswold If they did charge for the tv usage, it was on a trial basis or for a very short time. The issue is that the seats are not individually controlled, and neither the software nor the flight attendants could control which screens were on versus which were dark. My understanding is that the swipes were there for 'future possibilities' -David Neeleman was an innovator while leading JetBlue, and he may have envisioned using the card swipes for a buy on board program, pay per view movies, or perhaps the tvs once the technical features were added and working. Or maybe a combination of all of the above.
The refund may have been a goodwill credit or voucher. People sort of expected the tvs - it was an early part of the JetBlue brand - and when the screens were dark, passengers were often left disappointed. A credit goes a little way to rectifying that.
TWA..........i flew TWA from Minneapolis to then..idlewild airport...16 yrs old, first time flying.........lots of shake, rattle and roll when those big four engines started up and noisy too...but being my first time flying ...it was fantastic.....thanks for the TWA info....just subbed to...✈✈
I flew one of JetBlue's e190s (N266JB) in the summer of 2021, it was looking long in the tooth but still enjoyed it and glad to have a seat back monitor (even with as ancient as it is). With regards to the TWA hotel, it's definitely worth a visit if you have a long enough layover. Maybe even get a day room to relax and freshen up if you don't have lounge access. It's definitely not for a budget traveller. I've stayed there twice & as a history fan and avgeek, it's worth it. You can't beat the history, style or convenience, especially if you're flying JetBlue. I'll be the first to admit it has room for improvement.
I hope JetBlue will renovate their aircraft, and make a brighter future in its fleet.😊
i used to be a former mechanic for jet blue from the beginning of the airline start 2000 to 2020, and i can verify that the upholstery and interiors have not been maintained properly, Most of the older 320's have just been refurbished with its interior in 2020 the year i left. They are not going to do anything with 190s at all until they fully breakdown. I worked with the first 2 ceos of this airline founder david nelleman and then David Barger and everything was perfect back then. In 2014 after David left the quality of everything started to decline under the new CEO robin Hayes former British Airways and it was like they didn't care about anything. The crew morale also declined in all aspects. in the 2000's this was one of the best airlines to fly domestically in my opinion however now i wish i could say the same. By the way thanks for your report and analyses, im just sharing you my report in what i saw before i left.
Guess they shouldn't hired that guy from British Airways (Maybe because I heard that BA's quality had significantly declined over the years).
Wow. Great story. That's a shame because Neelman was brilliant in the beginning with founding the airline. As a former TWA employee from JFK, we flew very old airplanes, and I can't recall any of them in the condition that that 190 was in, not even close.
@@TWA727 yes I used to fly on very old TWA planes in the past they were in spotless this is how it used to be when neeleman was in charge if you said something they would act on it immediately after Hayes came there was a ticket system and it fell under priorities which almost would get ignored every single time
I am not very happy with JetBlue’s current CEO. Robin Hayes needs to go and be replaced with someone who is better qualified. On the other hand, I am much happier with Delta’s CEO Ed Bastian and United’s CEO Scott Kirby.
Thanks for your very frank assessment of JetBlue in your twenty years as a aircraft mechanic. I flew JetBlue from the very beginning mainly business frequently until I retired in 2014. I even helped open T5 as a loyal JetBlue TRUEBLUE flyer on a warm Saturday in August 2008. But things started changing over the next five years. I did notice even before I retired a change in spirit at JetBlue. And just before this Christmas flew to PBI on a E-190 and gate and cabin people just lacked the spirit of the early days. From what I’ve been reading recently in aviation circles and Wall St talk, JetBlue is heading into “strong head winds” financially. Let’s hope the new management can turn it around. ✈️
Enjoyed your video. You really pointed out well the sad condition of that aircraft. As I mentioned on your thread below, I'm a former TWA employee from JFK, and even though we flew old airplanes, we never put an aircraft in service that was in that kind of deteriorating condition.
The landing, however, didn't appear to be that bad. I've certainly had a lot worse. My guess is it probably was the FO.
I used to be a T.W.A. Steward. Shake hands! This plane is awful. TWA for the best of America!
@@clausstimpfig3803For how long did you worked with TWA? It was a great airline by the way.
All I can say about that plane is WOW. That is horrendous. But btw it’s also so cool whenever you land in Chicago and show us your landing on FlightRadar24 because I can always see my hometown 😂
Agreed haha. And wow cool! Chicago and its suburbs always great
I appreciate this review video. I am a pilot, retired, from United. I have seen things over the years. I DO sometimes buy tickets on other airlines, to build miles.
Had this same experience on JetBlue recently. Originally was scheduled 2 a220 flights, 1 a320, and 1 e190. Naturally JetBlue changed my flights and I flew on 2 of the oldest e190’s. First flight the headphone jack was non functioning, second flight all of the screens were non functioning.
As I watch, I can see that you're an aviation knowledgeable person. I'm retired. Pilot here.
Out with those 190s in with the A220s! Loved flying on the A220 on Delta going to New York.
I've flown delta's a220s three times and enjoyed them. I've flown JetBlue's JetBlue's a220 once and thought it was great.
The 220 is a much better airplane than the 190, by far.
That grounded A321neo is likely grounded due to Pratt & Whitney engine issues that plagued the Indian airlines a lot, completely shutting Go First Airlines down and causing IndiGo to lose lots of its fleet.
Been waiting all morning for this
It’s amazing how ratty the E Jets have gotten. This year my sister was flying on one out of LGA and told me it was the worst plane she’d ever been on. I was shocked to hear that because it was a republic 170. They were the nicest planes I’d ever been on when they first came out. Amazing how disgusting some have become. Not holding up well at all.
I mean, it all fairness the JetBlue, they’re getting a lot of the A220-300’s soon & those look amazing w/ the big engines!
Never flew on the small jet blue planes but used to fly very often from LGB to IAD to visit my mom before she died in2005. They were a pretty good airline then and I never had a problem with the aircraft or service. Never thought of them being a budget airline then.
Just flew two of them, from Boston to Fort Myers with a layover in DC, they were both definitely a bit dated but overall very clean and the flights were on time.
11:59 - 12:04 Yes for movies IIRC. Had a few flights between 2014 - 2016 or so where they disabled it to give us movies for free to make up for delays. 😁 Still, getting movies on their refreshed A320s free was such a dramatic improvement when I first experienced the refreshed cabin like 2 years ago I think.
I actually flew on N2048J in December 2022. I wonder why it has been parked there for so long. Any idea?
In the case of that jetblue A321neo thats parked my guess is its something to do with the PW GTF engine issues
I think those market share numbers you showed don’t include the delta connection fleet and its flights. Delta is right around 35%.
Another excellent video! This is shocking to see this from jetBlue as my past experiences flying on them (all in A320s) were fantastic. What I would do if I were you is probably contact their customer care department and share these pictures with them. As compensation they might give you some points or a voucher for your inconvenience. Regardless this is unacceptable and jetBlue should take responsibility for keeping up its standards. Thanks for sharing!
2048 has been parked there for a while since we’re taking parts off of it and applying it to other 321 neos. It may be a while before it goes back into service.
Hardest landing?!?! Ryanair pilots may take personally that comment with a "hold my hat" zinger 😂
Haven’t flown Ryanair to compare though!
I loved flying Jet Blue Brazilian E190 from MCO to CUN many years ago,they had three daily flight back then,two other flights were on the A 319/20...They were in great shape and the main reason was the 2-2 seating...and some how always landed 15 minutes earlier..It's very sad that Jet Blue will let them get in that condition.
I flew on it from JFK - Orlando and it wasn't too bad I was sat in row 1 with some nice leg room is small size did freak me out as its smaller then other E190s I've flown on but the entertainment was class.
I enjoyed the Embrear 190 on Lot Airlines from Warsaw to London Heathrow. The seating was good. No inflight entertainment but, the seating was in good condition.
Good to hear. I've flown American's E190 in 2017 before they were retired in 2020. No entertainment either like most 190s but was a great flight too.
Went on one of the E190s last year, and it was definitely showing its age - especially the IFE having been on one of the A320s with the cabin retrofit the year before. I can't wait to see them replaced with the A220s, though I did like the 2x2 seating of the E90s the 2x3 is really nice depending on if traveling alone OR with one person, or with both my parents.
Plus, with the E90s, I don't exactly like the window aignment (being an AV geek) and find that if I want to brace my arm up against the wall panel for stability, it's hard since the 190's wall paneling feels (to me at least) slick compared to the A320's.
I just realized I have pictures of y’all at the gate, was up at the TWA pool area taking pics of the Blueprint livery lol
What a small world haha
I flew my first time on JetBlue with E190, and it was exciting. Pilots say Jetblue wants the A220 to replace the E190 rather than the E2, the main reason is Airbus aircraft with better deal and easier training.
About 5 or 6 years ago I went on JetBlue and there was sharpie all over the seats on the 2 A320s I flew on. Have no idea why
Forget the cosmetic issues, what about the engines and overall updates for the airplane to FLY!
Were you able to check on the electrical wiring, gas tanks and engines not to forget the competency of the Pilots?
I doubt not.
I fly a lot and nearly 2/3 of my travel involve an Embraer leg to/from the hub. I think E17x/E19x cabin are not well designed. I have never seen a very clean E17x/E19x, even very new jets. The cabin fixtures have a lot of small openings, gaps and weird curvatures, so I think it's harder to keep clean and get into the nooks and crannies. These gaps and opening changes when panels flex during inflight, so I think it can trap a lot of debris. As others also pointed out, this is often used on short flights, so they get a lot of passenger cycles. Also, I think the E17x/E19x have also a questionable air circulation system. If you pay attention to the ceiling, bin panels, and air vents, you will see a lot of dark smudges, like the burnt oil particles that are blown back into the cabin. I do agree they should at least wipe down the seat and tray table.
Interesting take and definitely a great watch! I've flown JetBlue from London to Boston and then Boston to DC 5 times this year and always had a good time. I may have just been lucky with these e190s I have been in stateside, but my favourite carrier to fly on for sure. free wifi, free snacks, always helpful staff etc. But I hope this is just a bad plane in a good batch. Thanks for making the time to make this, was fun.
I just flew on a JetBlue E190. When our plane pulled up at the gate, my military spouse said “wow” and made a perplexed face. The exterior of the plane looked like it took heavy enemy fire in a war zone. It was also the most worn down disgusting cabin I’ve ever been on. The life vests were literally flying out from under the seats when we landed. We told flight crew when we deplaned and they said the under seat life vests go flying during every landing!
That sounds like something straight out of a movie 😬
I don't think Albany counts as an NYC airport btw. I flew a B6 190 PIT-BOS back in 2021 and it was beat up then.
It’s not an NYC airport. JetBlue was referring to New York State as a whole! That’s why Rochester was also on there for example.
11:00 good pepsi flavor. Good napkin flavor too. I'd be too full to eat a bag of chips though
Those engines sound scary
As a retired pilot (United) I do not know if the JetBlue E190s are part of their "mainline" fleet, or are operated differently. Meaning? I do not know if they are contracted out. Would like to know
They are mainline. There is no one else flying under the name. They won’t update or fix anything on them.
Also? The TWA Hotel at JFK is on my bucket list.
N306JB is around 14 years old
Flew on N267JB back in October and it was in good shape inside, or at least in my row. Sorry you had a bad experience.
The crew was probably just trying to shake some of the dirt loose!🤣
lol I don’t blame you, I absolutely despise our 190s as a employee
Let’s see if you can get a flight on one of B6’s 10 remaining classic 150 seat A320s and compare it against the E190
Those have almost the exact same seats just in a 3-3 configuration. Would love to fly one for the experience.
Oh man, not this coming week, but next week, I'm flying HPN-TPA (and then TPA-HPN), and wonder if I am gonna get one of the refreshed 320s, or one of the 10 remaining ones. 😂
I once got screamed at by PANYNJ Jobsworth police for taking some exterior photos of the old TWA terminal back in 2004
The PANYNJ needs to get its ass handed to them over this. They had already, years ago, lost a case over photography at the PA Bus terminal, and need to have their asses handed to them again over stuff like this (since the TWA terminal is a landmark, of course it's gonna bephotographed!) .
Yikes! That sure does not look like a good experience.
I personally would have flown Southwest nonstop RDU-MDW. Same 32 inch pitch assuming you get a 737-800 or Max.
Great vid, I wish it could’ve been a better flight for you though cause that seat looked horrible and that was a rough landing indeed.
Liked!
Thanks a lot. The seat itself was great in terms of comfort and I didn't mind the old TVs. The cleanliness sucked though but it was an experience for sure.
They used to charge for looped movies, the DTV was still free.
I’ve never even flown an E190. This video still tells me what to expect when flying the JetBlue E190. Very outdated indeed. I have no saying on how to feel when those planes retire. Accept maybe make the passenger cabin look more welcoming. As for the A220-300 replacing them along with older A320s that plane is state of the art. Looks like a spaceship.
When the interior is so poorly maintained, I wonder about the mechanical and electronic systems. The good thing about the 190 is no middle seats.
Oh boy that intro was S tier
I was definitely enjoying making it 😂
Stay in Chicago. It's very nice there this time of the year.
My thoughts are that top guns are not flying that plane . I’d be nervous
Random YT algorithm viewer here. IMO, JB has totally lost what made it special before. Now, it's "just another airline". There used to be a time when I'd board this young, vibrant, airline with quirks such as unusual snacks (still love the Terra chips when I find them) and crews that seemed to have genuine fun being onboard and that vibe absolutely transferred to us passengers. We all willingly helped in the general cleaning of our seats because we knew the previous passengers did for us (pay it forward concept before that was a thing). Now, I fly JB because I sorta have to and I feel miserable in most of those flights... :(
Come to think of it, their downfall roughly began when they switched to Pepsi. Coincidence? Hahahaha
That landing looked like the pilot didnt flare and instead nosed down to the runway..
I flew a connection flight JB bos to jfk on a a320 so clean but then I did jfk to sav on a e190 my TV's didn't work, BOY THE TOILET WAS SOOO DIRTY, THERE WAS SOME WEIRD GOOD NEXT TO MY SEAT, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT KIND OF INK WAS MUSHED INTO THE FLOOR AND THE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF ME HAD TONS OF DIRT ON THE SEAT (no offense to jet blue just get rid of the E190s)
"I paid good money for this ticket" 😂😂😂😂😂 $133.22 would barely get you from Raleigh to Ohio in your car.
Cool Video ASAviation! I agree that JetBlue E190s are kinda aging but I honestly belive that they should be reworked rather than retired, the A220 doesn't really fit the gap in the market the same way the E190s did, for example some of the Nantucket/Cape Cod Flights from JetBlue couldn't realy have A220 operations...
Thanks very much. I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if JetBlue will cede routes like ACK to Cape Air or AA completely or try to see if they can get the airports upgraded. But the A220 is a good short field plane too so it could serve those routes too.
@@ASAviation true, but it’s really about capacity… but I doubt JetBlue is going to let go of its dominance over cape cod, it’s already given up a lot in the northeast alliance… I honestly feel like the E190-E2 would’ve been a good option for JetBlue despite it not selling well…
the A220 is set to replace this entire fleet. only 20 e190s remain active
Had a similar experience with this aircraft but I didn’t care I just wanted to go home at that time
The ARRIVAL time is NOT the LANDING time, it is arrival AT THE GATE.
It’s a shame that JetBlue is treating their E190s like this. I flew on two from London City Airport to Edinburgh (and back) in the spring and BA has taken good care of their aircraft. I’ve never flown on JetBlue (they don’t fly into DSM - closest is probably O’Hare or KCI) but this video leaves a bad taste in my mouth for trying their product.
This doesn't apply to all JetBlue nor all their E190s. I have flown their E190 before this and that aircraft was in great condition albeit the same old cabin. JetBlue maintains their planes well generally, this was an outlier incident. Their A320, A220, A321 products are day and night compared to the 190.
No matter how little you pay, it's only fair to expect the basic bottom line decency in cleanliness and professionalism. No frills doesn't mean being disgusting guys
I remember when JetBlue was the elite airline. Now I consider it the worst..
You got to know that airlines suffered during the pandemic and they are trying to make for lost time but theres no excuse for a dirty seat smile and be happy jerry
I don’t like JetBlue’s E190s since they are outdated and cramped. I enjoy their A220s very much!
I would have got on that plane and walked right back off again. No way I’m flying on an ancient plane like that.
lol no, dirty seats and poorly kept cabin and all, this plane is WAY better than any existing A220, because the E190 has WAY better engines, they're truly reliable, they haven't shut down in flight in a decade, unlike the P&W Geared TurboFailure on the A220.
They’re taking those airplanes out of service. But they should at least clean it lol 😂
That plane got beaten up since last time I wan on that plane
Ok princess !
Not even PIA would keep their seats that dirty, at least in my experience
This reminds me of US air LMAO
Edit: the credit card machines were to buy merch im pretty sure. In the early 2000s merch and certain drinks were a big thing. AirTran used to have these fuse drinks they were so good! You had to buy them and could only use a credit card. This was before the iPhone so thats why they went with seats.
Thanks for your review. I’ve flown those e190’s many times from BOS to JFK. I’ve found the flights comfortable and “yes” the planes are worn. However given the low cost and it’s better than driving, I don’t have a problem with it all. In fact doesn’t even cross my mind. So your assessment is harsh and unfair to JetBlue. If you are looking for perfection you should pay more for first class with another airline. Sounds like that’s more your “fit”.
"Aw hellll naaawww"
"Flying dumpster"
"Worst flight of my 250 flights in my whole life"
lol😆😁😄
They aren't as old as most of their A320ceo aircraft.
I flew this same flight in Feb ‘23 I agree the plane is old as hell but the flight was barely a hour long and we got to JFK early so it was whatever
I took it in 2018 ORD-JFK. The E190 I flew on that flight was in much better condition on the inside. Great flight too as back then, JetBlue's inflight snack offering was a little more generous with a full large bag of TERRA chips.
Seriously, though, dirty seats and poorly kept cabin and all, this plane is WAY better than any existing A220, because the E190 has WAY better engines, they're truly reliable, they haven't shut down in flight in a decade, unlike the P&W Geared TurboFailure on the A220.
Oh God. That plane needs to be significantly tidied up. Great review though.
Thanks JJ! It sure needs a deep clean.
flying Jetblue gave you the "blues"........I wonder and ponder how will acquiring Spirit airlines help JetBlue???.....jet was not exactly in "mint" condition.....as more lines merge.....service takes a back seat......however in the long term such consolidation opens up opportunities for new entrants like Avelo and Breeze.....the airline industry seems forever in a state of flux.....
Mane out that E190 out of its misery
Jet blues E190s are incredibly worn and its good they are replacing this, but still not a good look for an airline like jetblue!
This definitely does not apply to all JetBlue flights, I know it was a one-time thing. It's not a good look still and I hope the aircraft received a nice cleaning since.
Agreed@@ASAviation
JetBlue has definitely slipped over the years. Too bad. Like all of them, they were good at one time. Now, they're merging with Spirit?!?!?! God help us!
still WAY better than Frontier or Spirit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would have taken another airline.
Good grief!! I'm so sorry you had to ride in a flying dumpster. And no, no it was NOT too harsh to say - you said it perfectly!!
What in the world happened to Jet Blue? How do you go from a fairly decent airline to this???
Thank you for your comment. This does not apply to JetBlue overall, it was definitely a one-time issue. Hopefully, the plane has received a nice cabin clean since this flight.
@@ASAviation i enjoy your reviews. Thank you for showing everyone that, no, not everything is perfect in the real world. It gives everyone a true insight to what could happen.
the A220 engines are dumpster engines - seriously, dirty seats and poorly kept cabin and all, this plane is WAY better than any existing A220, because the E190 has WAY better engines, they're truly reliable, they haven't shut down in flight in a decade, unlike the P&W Geared TurboFailure on the A220.
Cost cutting always catches up to you.
And people dare to ask why I clean my seat before sitting on it!? People are disgusting.
The landing didn't seem so terrible. Are you a pilot?
You don't need to be a pilot to say it felt a certain way, as it's obviously from the passenger's perspective (and even then, between passengers, experiences differ too!)
You flew on my bd