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- Carol Kaye talks about her famous (bass)guitar licks for Sam Cooke (Summertime), Ritchie Valens (La Bamba), Beach Boys (Good Vibrations) en Quincy Jones & Bill Cosby (Hikky Burr). A short documentary by Top 2000 a gogo (Dutch Public TV) from 2009.
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How about quit stealing others content to get money off it? Yeah, exactly.
@@kommi1974 What are smoking?
I did man chill 😎 my little baby's I gotcha 😌 👌
Jazz musician and guitar teacher!
Did Carol play bass on the Barney Miller theam song? If not then who?
4:16 Disrespectful to send her away like that
Young and dumb.
They didn't know who she was. Ridiculous. To be in that line of business you need to know. Clowns.
@@hodgod1056 Yes, so utterly disrespectful
Fools they are!
Would be an honor & privilege have her pop in!
That's fucked up!
fucking dumbass Belmont University interns, I guarantee it. i went to Belmont, and have recorded in that studio.....the people they put at reception don't know shit from shenanigans.
Absolutely astounding that a music legend like Carol Kaye would be snubbed by the very studio she helped build. My heart broke at the end of this video. We love you Carol.
I agree....totally disrespectful.
Such a shame.
NO FUCKING CLASS AT ALL !!!!
True, but maybe they could have called ahead instead of just walking in.
@@tele68 please....
If Brian Wilson had walked in, and management was told, guaranteed he wouldn't have been disrespected like that.
@@rcpsammy7186 I get that. But this is a totally different generation. They would know Brian Wilson, but probably not the session musicians he used. It would have made sense for her to call and see when the studio would be open for a brief tour.
"They are probably cutting something that will never sell anyway..". Gotta Love Carol
Nice one.
WhyCatholic
Such a comment was far beneath the level of respect many musicians, composers, singers, and producers have for her and her body of work over the decades. You can love Carol, but her juvenile attempt at thumbing the company and its employees in the eye because they were not pursuaded by her grandiose pronouncements, was neither cute nor clever.
Being a session musician means you have to keep your ego at the door. Of course she played on a bunch of #1 hits 50-40 years ago but she must understand she wasn't the face of the band. She's not a ''McCartney'' or what ever icon of the past.
WhyCatholic , best comment ever.
well, she has the resumeé to back up that claim, hasn't she?
Man, that lady is a legend. She’s probably forgotten more than they’ll ever know.
All of those Players at the time.
And clear to Johnny Gimble, fiddle player, who would play on most all Swing Band Albums put out in Texas to LA.
I doubt that Carol has forgotten anything.
Maybe that business with Cosby?
Amen Joe!
They treated her like an old homeless woman. What a freaking shame. Love you CK.
Good, go protest in the street with a sign, you loser.
@@ronschaffer5959 Do you have anything better to do with your life then be a complete prick
@@jules1553 some one hurt him now he must hurt others such a shame :(
True, those underlings have no sense of history. But her ego was showing when she said, "they're probably cutting something that will never sell anyway." That's a pretty low thing to say when you consider that it probably wasn't the artists who were keeping her out.
Ron Schaffer naw I’ll leave the sign carrying and protesting to you bunch of American hating, baby killing, Hillary supporting liberals. She’s right, cutting some bull shit computerized, vocal processed crap.
I went from feeling chills, watching Carol Kaye and Brian Wilson playing together, to feeling rage over how that studio treated such a legend.
I was about to comment on here that as well! they seriously didn't know who they had in their presence!
@@jongon281 Yeah, it's an all too common shame.
Yup damn shame! Thank you for your INCREDIBLE contributions Carol!!!
You have to be beyond amazing if Quincy Jones left your part blank and told you...…….you come up with something for that. That is so awesome.
For that, you don't only have to be beyond amazing but have Quincy Jones' seal of approval of how beyond amazing you are
She's written more bass lines than Paul McCartney.
I agree, man made Rashida, he knows what hes doing.
Wow Ms. Kaye is an amazing woman and musician
They didn’t realise who had walked though the door, idiots! That woman is a big part of musical history, god bless her!💕😉🇬🇧
They probably don't even know who the Beach Boys are. They're probably recording some piece of crap that is compressed like a brick and sounds like one too.
@@rodneylee4026A compressor is to the music like a can is to a sardines.
They were just to busy to press all their sardines into proper cans, so they left the music gem walk out without noticing a thing.
That Studio's Management and Staff should be ashamed of themselves. How disrespectful.
They have no idea who she is.
They should have shot themselves in the head as a sign of respect.
Carol is no doubt a legend is the studio musician world, but not so well know outside it. The employee's you could tell weren't even alive when Carol Kaye did most of her most prominent musical work. Not knowing the backstory I'd imagine the studio would welcomed her in to look around if the had made some sort of arrangement beforehand.
They really should have made an appointment to visit. I don't think it's reasonable to expect to just walk in unannounced and start looking around, especially with a camera crew. The studio undoubtedly have people recording and things going on which they don't want to be disturbed.
First exactly, it’s pretty unreasonable to walk in and expect them to treat you like royalty and then make passive aggressive remarks when you don’t get your way
Great example of 2 kids that didn't know who they were speaking to.
She should have told them "I'm just the bass player for the Wrecking Crew "!
@@scottycrooks Lol ... yeh that would have done it.
frank castle - to be fair, 9 out of 10 times when someone walks in and points at the records on the wall saying she played on them, its probably a person who hasn’t taken their meds. As a minimum wage security dude you’re thinking, do I really want to be fired over letting a nutcase in. I’d do the same.
U should watch the video of David Lee Roth when he hears a stag playing Van Halen, knocks on the door to say hi (while in vegas) and they have this blank 20yr old stare...(are we busted look)
"Hi I'm David Lee Roth,...cricket's...."
@@PresidentGas1 If someone had explained them about the Wrecking Crew...
Enshrine this woman in the Rock N Roll hall of fame already! What a crying shame!
Agreed!
The whole Wrecking Crew should be in there.
That's not how the rock and roll hall of fame works, dude. You sort of have to be in a band to become a legend. She did a lot of gig work.
practical intuition then why have Hal Blaine and Earl Palmer been inducted in the “sidemen” category? Dude.
I agree but instead they regularly induct people who are less worthy and not truly in the R&R genre. What an insult.
She is an absolute TITAN on the bass and a legend in music history.
Those people had no idea a legend just walked in their door. Some executive is probably loosing his/her mind watching this.
Never mind, you don't get it.
'they have musicians for today's music' - now that I doubt.
Do they actually use musicians in today's music? You sure can't tell by listening to the crap they put out.
Bob Aldo you should go home and shout at kids to get off your lawn
Losing* Learn to spell.
That last scene is so typical of the corporate music industry. It makes me so fucking mad they treated a absolute living legend like that.
The brainwashing corporate mafia took over.
Breaks my heart.
@DrNawMai Because those ass sucking interns treated her like shit? Pretty simple reeeally. 😂
I don't think those guys would have recognised Janis Joplin if she had walked in. 😄
If those people knew anything about music at all they would know who Carol is,makes me mad it does the tossers havnt got a clue.
One hour later.... entire reception area is unemployed.
Let's hope so!
me too. they dont give a ratfuck about musicians, its all about the moneys
JC Mac and unemployable !👍
I would have sacked the lot of them. Idiots.
canuckdybdahl
Jesus... Station manager... Fire that idiot who sent a living legend out on the street with no sense of respect and consideration. He works in that studio and he is not aware of the history inside those hallowed halls ?? Carol and Co made sure you can have a job there today dude.. hopefully not tomorrow
4 minutes ago
Later that day...."Some weird old lady came in to see you but we told her to go away", "oh did she say her name?", "ye it was Carol or something", "your fired"
Okay, boomer!
@MaGuffintop Ok, boomer.
@MaGuffintop ok boomer
@@FearlessLeader2001 I get that your trolling. But if you play bass or care about bass playing ... this lady is a straight up living legend. I don’t care what age you are. Ask your favorite bass player who’s on their short list of idols? The Wrecking Crew are legends!
But she didn’t program 808’s that had melodic complexity of nursery school music for 4 year olds, so I understand why you Gen Z kids don’t understand it. It’s all good.
@@79Glitch I am actually learning to play bass. But I dont think anyone is above the rules of the society we live in. And you if you say her little rant about "they're probably recording something that will never sell" anything but petty and childish, you need to get your head out of your ass. This whole situation she found herself in could be been avoided had she just had respect for herself, and the venue, and booked a spot ahead of time.
"They're probably cutting something that'll never sell anyway." TRUTH - CAROL KAYE!!!!!!
No, that isn’t ‘truth’ because she was whining out of hurt pride after she did something stupid. What was being recorded? Who was in that studio? You don’t have a clue, and the stupid whining about ‘why don’t you think I’m famous’ is something that makes people look really pathetic, just like ‘I’m a big fan of hers so everybody who doesn’t know about her is stupid’. Want a studio-musician quiz? You’ll lose.
She's a washed up bitch.
Vinyl Talk With Tavis She is a known liar.
@@danieljohnson1765 why?
Hello There She tried taking credit for many James Jamerson basslines . She played a lot of stuff but she is kinda nutty for recognition it seems to me.
If they had actually talked to one of the producers.. people would have run out the door to ask her if she wanted to lay something down..
Not Ready To Gig exactly. That would have been cool
No...wrong..half of these so called producers are clueless
So good comment! Can you imagine? This is one of the beauty of life: Surf the occasion, take a chance, here's a bass Madam!
Then when they all left the studio they googled Carol Kaye and felt like idiots......
doubtful
They be like... "Carol who?"
We be like... "Do you even music bro?"
I doubt they could even spell her name correctly.
Probably not. All too often the newbies have no knowledge, interest, or respect for anything older than ten minutes ago.
@A.C. B. ART you know, young people might be more likely to enjoy older music if they didn't associate it with elitist pricks like you LOL
Doesn't matter about those flakes at the studio, we all know how outstanding Carol was and still is. I'm a bassist of 35 yrs and she was a major influence on me growing up. Even did an essay on her in music school. Wrote her a letter asking ?'s and she wrote back sent me photo's a method book copies of her calender dates sept - nov 69 she had maybe 8 days off in 3 months and was doing 2 sessions a day on most dates. She is the 1st lady of bass.
Thank you, I feel the same, but man it was hard to watch those fools in the studio.....
Wow! that is just excellent
Manager comes in after a business meeting:
"So, any calls for me?"
Attendant: "Nah, just usual shit, u know. Oh, a crazy cat lady came here, saying she was a big deal and stuff. Kicked her out. Wha'was her name again? Oh yeah, Carol Key or something"
Manager: "You are fired."
I like it....!!!
Cheers...!!!
Hah... yeah right. Chances are anyone high up in there doesn't even remember her name. All they care about is money and nobody gives a fuck about these legends anymore. They'll just pull out another fake ass bitch to be another robot.
@@SUNIKIGAMING sad, but true... those greedy SOBs
I wouldn't be surprise if the 30 yr old manager didn't know who she was.
Doubtful that manager had any idea.
She needs to be in the music hall of fame. 👏👏👏
Absolutely !
My god, this is so wrong. Carol Kaye should be receiving a share of the royalties for all the music she created. She as others were totally exploited. What a humble talented soul.
Sounds like these use the terminology "invent" the part, to avoid calling it "writing" and thus having to credit them as writers. No royalties for "inventing"- just royalties for "writing".
I agree she's amazing
Yep. It sucks that the song writers get all the money but the musicians who made it worth listening to don't gets hit.
@mike sixx If they came up with the hook that made the music a hit, maybe it should be considered. On another note, artists that create hits with loops of these great talents receive all the royalties. It's basically editing. It's the way the system works, but in what universe is that fair?
Firstly - if she's a studio musician - that is what she's paid for - that is the job. Secondly - Carol Kaye has stated on interview that they were making more money than the president .. now that may be an analogy - but it certainly does not sound like she feels like they were being hard done by ..
And I cannot see - without any other info to the contrary - they were being "exploited" .. by her own admission - they were making more money in a day than they'd make in a week on the road ..
If I design a game and contract someone to do the art - and the game is successful - the artists who delivered on their contracts should not now feel that they are entitled to a part of the profits of the game ..
I'm not saying that each and every one of "the wrecking crew" did not significantly enhance or in some cases define the sounds or songs of the people they "supported" - but that was the job and they did it gladly and to say that they were "exploited" seems somewhat ridiculous to me.
Certain members of "The wrecking Crew" - most notably Glen Campbell and Elvis Costello went on to have very successful solo careers. Carol - by her own admission - was tired of the music they were making and went off to do other things ..
Clueless people who don't even know the business. Could have been Elvis who walked in there and it would have been "...sorry...". Thank you Ms. Kaye, for being the foundation of the greatest era of music.
Except that Elvis would have kicked that guy in the nuts.
MrSteve280 ...Carol doesn't have a recognizable face...lucky her I say. Very few people would know her now and the only reason I know of her is that I've read a fair amount about the session musicians in L.A. ( The Wrecking Crew) that took part in producing most of the pop hits of the sixties. Glen Campbell was the most famous member of that Crew.
@@mikeyfiftythree6237 Even though I was pretty young at the time, I remember Carol because she was such an anomaly and even presume initially that she was a he (Carol, as in Carol O'Connor). Doesn't matter. She was a member of the wrecking crew. Nuff said.
I'm technically a "millennial", but I definitely love the music and culture of the 60's and early 70's... However this thread is showing me for the gazillionth time something must have gone terribly wrong because most babyboomers ended up being frustrated self-entitled "can I speak to your manager"-type old sour tarts.
Yes, she probably made a lot of money for that studio decades ago, but she also always had an easily replaceable role and a LOT of people that were/are a LOT more important made/make that studio a lot of money as well. There is no excuse for waddling in unannounced with a passive-aggressive entitled attitude expecting everybody to instantly drop everything for her. Respect is earned and she surely didn't earn any respect with that attitude
Are you insane? The foundation of music? Bullshit.
"The Beat Goes On" by Sonny & Cher. Her bass line pretty much IS the song.
Wow that's another one to add to a long list. I didn't know she was on that one. Thanks for the info.
They changed the song when they heard Carols bass lick!
They turned down Carol Kaye at the studio. Unbelievable. No respect.
they stated there was a session going on how would you feel if you were paying tens of thousands of dollars to record to have some random person who worked on some records 50 years ago come in and interrupt your time recording possibly the track you were recording because even talking outside the room can interfere with microphones I'm hearing a lot of people back her up without realizing why is going into recording respect for all the recordings you've been on but it's really sad to see someone not understands Studio courtesy
@@scottbean8591 If it was Carol Kaye I would stop what I was doing.
@@scottbean8591 Dude it's Carol
@@jimmybob5541 well, honestly.. before this video i didnt even knew who she was and i know music since the early 60's
Just type or say her name and see her image like that it's easy.
I hope Capitol Records got a lot of letters of protest about what their staff did to Carol Kaye!
I'm technically a "millennial", but I definitely love the music and culture of the 60's and early 70's... However this thread is showing me for the gazillionth time something must have gone terribly wrong because most babyboomers ended up being frustrated self-entitled "can I speak to your manager"-type old sour tarts.
Yes, she probably made a lot of money for that studio decades ago, but she also always had an easily replaceable role and a LOT of people that were/are a LOT more important made/make that studio a lot of money as well. There is no excuse for waddling in unannounced with a passive-aggressive entitled attitude expecting everybody to instantly drop everything for her. Respect is earned and she surely didn't earn any respect with that attitude
@@Candisa - and that is EXACTLY where you make the mistake - saying something like it is, is not "attitude" - it's called TRUTH!
@@nervotica7991 It may be the truth, but expecting everybody around her to drop everything when storming in unannounced definitely is an attitude.
@@Candisa - written like a true "Millennial". I think you heard and saw WAY more, than what was actually shown. Can i suggest you slow down on the meds...?
@@Candisa You're relating to the rude ignorant milleninals there, pop music was founded by baby boomers and any music fan would be interested in that instead of being so me and now.
That studio is only still operating on the momentum Carol and her contemporaries gave them. Now they are pumping out auto-tuned nobodies by the handful. The art is dead.
Paul McCartney was refused access at the Grammy's after party by a bouncer who had no clue.
It happens to the best of them. People are clueless.
RogerWilco : As I recall, that was not "THE" afterparty for the Grammy's.
It was just 'an' afterparty - and it was hosted by someone like P Diddy, (or whatever he's called at the moment) or some other Hip Hop star.
I forge just now whether it was because just some stupid bouncer didn't know who he was - or because was an invites-only. But it was one, (or possibly both) of those reasons.
When asked what they needed to do to get in,they said he needed to write some hits
@@scottycrooks Oh, my god, are you serious??
That's ok. The bouncer knew that it wasn't the real Paul McCartney...just the replacement. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
theshyguitarist 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"They're are probably cutting something that will never sell anyway." LOL. I agree with Carol
Yeah, she didn’t have a clue and neither do you. Those grapes were probably sour anyway huh?
@@jamescarter3196 You're the one whose clueless. Some crappy rap or worse, modern day pop was probably recorded in that studio.
@@reg4321 didn't the first person to see the Beatles in the 60s say "guitar music is ob the way out?" Come on boomer, don't be like that dipshit.
disgusting how she was treated at the end
couldn't they at least give her a chance and show her some respect?
they probably didn't even know who she was!
This was a perfect example of why she made the right moves when she did, to get away from these amateurs! CAROL KAYE...LEGEND!!!
Did you see her giving Gene Simmons a lesson on the bass?
Yeah, she got away from the “amateurs” who gave her the most money she ever made, so she could go on to.... uh... being someone who isn’t famous, and whose talent is overshadowed by their arrogance. What was the part of that you consider ‘the right move’?
@@jamescarter3196 so she should have continued to play on shit after shit and become less and less happy every week because she was not being true to herself , go listen to someone famous considering you think that means more than the music
Hollywood should make a movie about this unsung legend
She is portrayed in the 2014 movie "Love and Mercy", which was about Brian Wilson. At least she got a little bit of recognition.
There's a good documentary called "The Wrecking Crew," from 2015 and it's available on UA-cam. Ms. Kaye is featured throughout.
They can make sure to include the parts where she claimed credit for other studio musicians work after they were dead.
@@flacidhouse350 please be very specific in listing what dead studio musicians work she claimed to play ? Carol is still alive we could ask her about your claims. Again, please be very specific.
@@ironmandave3000 Jamie Jamerson. She claimed to have really played the Bass line from Bernadette which is his big signature piece. The controversy got so big that Eventually affidavits were actually signed by the producers saying that it was Jamerson and not her that recorded it. She wasn't even in the city when it happened.
The worst part was that she waited until Jamerson was dead to tell this lie.
I wouldn't suggest asking Carol about it. She is well aware of the controversy and would likely bite your head off over it.
Doe's anyone else hope that studio goes bankrupt?
fuck yeah... that studio needs to be burned to the ground.
Yes
You can help by boycotting any music that comes out of there
@@matthewlewis9996 like you aren't going to forget about this video in a week.
@@calebangell77 what does that mean?
This woman is a treasure and deserves much respect for her playing and creativity.
This is very sad.....but true testament to the music business and just how quickly you're cast aside.
Most creative industries are the same I find.
How quickly? You mean over the course of decades?
seems to be true. unless you have a few platinum records on the wall.
@@gregb7595 The sad thing is she helped to put those platinum records on someone else's wall but barely got any recognition at all.
She wasn't making them Millions of dollars anymore so she didn't matter.
1:35 😭😭 why she like 70 and blazed that groove like that though? She's ain't no hack. She was the truth.
She was not a hack, still aint. She'll play you under the table.
Carol Kaye walks in and they throw her out?!
Bastards!
Carol Kaye is a National Treasure! When I worked at West LA Music, she was in the shop to do a workshop.. At the time I had no idea who she was, but she and I talked for a long time about bass playing that day. Such an incredible Lady 🙌🏼
World treasure, you mean.
@@qtrust Absolutely! 🤗
Sad commentary on the truth of the music INDUSTRY. Carol you will always be known among the folks who count!!!
Carol never got the recognition she really deserves for all the work she did on so many albums . Because she was "only" a studio musician , the public never got to know the really talented musician that she is. Without her playing those albums wouldn't have sounded so perfect. It's a shame as she was beautiful as well as talented & could've easily fronted a band that did as well as those who she only appeared as a studio musician . I have a deep respect & admiration for this woman .
No.
Same for the Funk Brothers who backed most of the early Motown recordings
To be fair, it was her job to play in the session, not take credit. She understood that. Also she didn’t compose the music. She might’ve added her instrument part but she was not a writer
Try watching the video this time. She said none other than Quincy Jones left her parts blank because he knew she could improvise her parts on the fly. So, yes, she was a writer. I'm not sure what you are. Clueless would be my guess.
As is clear from her statements in the video, Carol Kaye actually was not a big fan of the pop rock styles at the time. She was a jazz musician and she liked playing jazz, but you weren't going to make platinum top 40 records in 1969 cutting bebop records. As the rock scene changed, she also had a hard time getting regular work as more artists stopped using session musicians and preferred to play the instruments themselves. She started working on soundtracks and she enjoyed doing that.
Are you kidding me!!! They didn't let her in!!!
Jeez,the same kind of ignorant stupidity when the bouncer at Tygar's(?) post Grammy party wouldn't let Paul McCartney and Beck in.
They were working at that time.
Easy solution: Call ahead, make an appointment, show the interviewer around (the interviewer should have called ahead). Shes also mostly a session musician so it isnt really surprising that they wont recognize her. Its not like Freddie Mercury walked in.
J listen, ignorant young dweeb, have you ANY idea whatsoever as to the work this woman participated and is credited for?
Your sheer stupidity is baffling.
J, yes they were working, but they could have said, look come back at blah blah blah. But they didn't, they had no clue who she was and that's what's sad because if I go to work for a company, I want to know it's history. Now true, the "producers" should have made arrangements, but imagine if Elvis were alive and he went to Sun Studios with a film crew and some idiot said no were busy with a tour you can't come in.
Nic Lira and then there are people who work somewhere because they need work, there are people who dont know every musician ever. And then there are people who are stressed,... We know nothing about these people and their current circumstances. And your comparison to Elvis is just the same as it is with my comparison to Freddie Mercury. Carol Kaye is not Elvis.
The shivers I got, when she played the licks for La Bamba especially. LOVE HER
This woman is a BEAUTIFUL SOUL too !! I was born in 1963 and never heard of her till just 5 years ago and I looked her up and sent an e-mail saying how wonderful I thought she was and knew MANY of the classic's she played on and she got back to me the very next day with a GENUINE response , She belongs in The Hall of Fame NO DOUBT ABOUT IT !! ( Nicky D)
Wow, unbelievable! Way to go OCEAN WAY RECORDING! Carol Kaye stops by the studio and they don't even even let her in?
Probably didn't know who she is. Should have been arranged beforehand.
Russ Coleman she told them who she was. How do you work/manage at ocean way recording and not know who carol kaye is? That’s a lack of respect to be working in that industry let alone the actual studio that she was a huge part of and not show just a little respect.
@@zach9809 I think you overestimate millennials.
@@zach9809 Absolutely right...
She made me smile when she started to strum the guitar.
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Me too. She looks like a mild mannered grandma.
Such a natural talent, I totally envy her, but in a good way, makes me want to practice.
P.S.
Really good looking in her earlier days, fo sure!
Do u like watching old laides strum?
Don't knock what you haven't tried, my friend!@@alfiemclennan3630
Thats like telling Paul McCartney he cant go into Abbey Road
The owners of that studio are typical of people in music today. As a professional musician of 51 I have lost count of how many self appointed experts have never heard of The Wrecking Crew yet they call themselves musicians.
Villaboy No one cares grandpa.
I'm technically a "millennial", but I definitely love the music and culture of the 60's and early 70's... However this thread is showing me for the gazillionth time something must have gone terribly wrong because most babyboomers ended up being frustrated self-entitled "can I speak to your manager"-type old sour tarts.
Yes, she probably made a lot of money for that studio decades ago, but she also always had an easily replaceable role and a LOT of people that were/are a LOT more important made/make that studio a lot of money as well. There is no excuse for waddling in unannounced with a passive-aggressive entitled attitude expecting everybody to instantly drop everything for her. Respect is earned and she surely didn't earn any respect with that attitude
Daniel Johnson and you ain’t a grandpa either?
Comrade Kong shut up commie this America🇺🇸
@Lloyd Stout No reason for the attitude, that counts for her and you.
Carol Kaye is a music Legend that nobody knows. Just one of the many musicians that were used and abused by record companies.
I’m a bassist and songwriter from way back - huge fan of Carol Kaye.
The ironic thing this is that nobody needs a record company or recording studio anymore. Andthey’re almost all out of business because you can do at your own place right here on songs put it on UA-cam and be self-sufficient. So some people snub the technology but it’s done wonders for the singer songwriter. I used to pay $50-100 an hour at little local studios to lay down a song ( or parts of one) in a few hours. Now I can do 16 to infinite tracks at home on my own time - and fix them , retrace them digitally etc and without the heavy expensive and hard to program analog gear like in the old days . I do miss analog sound and process sometimes but the tools are so amazing - even with auto tune and chat gpt - they are tools to aid us - and then we correct and add our stamp and thoughts to it.
They just turned her away?
Rude as hell and disrespectful
Well, she knows how a studio works, as you do not just show up after decades & expect to be treated like royalty.
I blame the film-makers for not calling ahead and getting the studios OK to film a segment there... who the F*&$ thinks its OK to just walk off the street with a camera crew and film in a business.
@@sphinxrising1129 SHE IS ROYALTY. When she said, "I'm Carol Kaye," they should've bowed. Any studio or studio musician who doesn't know her significance needs to go back to school.
I betcha those young punks at the record studio said after she'd gone: "Who was that crazy old lady??"
I made alot of money for this studio.
And again she gets denied.
She is STILL making money for hundreds and hundreds of studios, bands and producers. It is too bad that in the days when she was at her peak, the industry didn't give a lot of recognition to the actual instrumentalists. Otherwise Carol would be spoken of and known worldwide.
I walked in that same reception area and told them the same thing, that I built this place, and they wouldn't let me in either.
Joan In Florida She walked in off the street demanding to waltz around the place when she hadn’t been there in decades and nobody knew she was coming. There is no reason the front-office people at an active recording studio need to remember every studio musician who’s ever worked there in case they show up at random. That’s unrealistic and has nothing to do with ageism or sexism.
@Joan: Give me a quick answer: who is the hottest rock studio bass player today?
@@jamescarter3196 dumb yank words; respect your elders and artists lest you be a fool.
Was that disrespectful or what. She is a legend and the people working in the studio are a bunch of nobodies.
Yeah, it’s disrespectful for her to show up at random as though everybody is supposed to just stop their session and shower her with affection. Who was in the studio? Do you know? No, you don’t and you made up some stupid whiny-ass speculation just to try making yourself feel smart for knowing who she is, but you’re just whiny, that’s all. Might have been somebody every bit as talented as her behind that door, but you don’t have a clue, just like all the people who didn’t have a clue about her when she was recording. See how that works?
@@jamescarter3196 i agree . Maybe they just showed up without any appointment and expected the people to recognize her instantly.
When she said, "I'm Carol Kaye," any legit musician should fawn. That's literally all it should take.
vpking77 . They were just anxious because the boss was firing their workmate for being ill mannered, ignorant and no sense of priority.
Very rude and sad smh
"I made a lot of money for this studio, you know." You set 'em straight Carol.
@Comrade Kong yes they could have she played with some of the greatest artists of the 50s and the 60s Sam Cooke The Beach Boys Bob Dylan they should have showed her more respect
C'est la vie Carol. You practically helped built the place and it's a no go even for a peek inside. Well, there are plenty of folks who appreciate great music and great musicians. We know who you are. Being in your presence would be considered an honor. 💜🎸
That was disgusting. It would be like Jeanie Knight, King Floyd or James Stroud walkng back into Malaco and getting turned away. But the guys at Malaco would never do that.
BluzGuitar Guy Fishing Antics "We're the ones who made this studio..."
Carol Kay is absolutely music royalty...! 🤘🏾
Dang straight, she is royalty ! Like Steve Cropper at Stax.
BluzGuitar Guy Fishing Antics No doubt...Colonel "Play it" Steve Cropper is one of my all time favorites. Real nice guy too.
As is James Burton, our hometown player. Shot a video from my boat, on the lake out behind his house recently. Going to get more footage this weekend. Maybe we can get James to come outside if he's home. He's a VERY nice guy! Always willing to stop and chat.
BluzGuitar Guy Fishing Antics No doubt. JB is a picking beast. Guess what he and Steve Cropper have in common?
They are both Rock & Roll Hall of Famers, amazing session guys, and they both laid down iconic music while playing Teles... 🤘🏾
They didn't care who she was because they no longer make music. They stick to the "formula".
now days MOST songs on earth are written by two people
@Rob Holloway they only sent her away for one of two reasons ...1) they were clueless to the fact that SHE single-handedly doubled that studio's earnings , at least ...2) they didn't care that #1 was the case . anybody in that studio may have lost a chance to lay down a LEGENDARY track and WE are the lesser for the fact that she was asked to leave . anybody IN THE STUDIO will now die knowing they might have had a chance to interact with this brilliant woman , but now it will never happen thanks to the rudeness of the front of the studio .
they could've told her to come back later ..but obviously they didnt want her there at all..had nothing to do with whatever bullshit they were doing at the time.
You're right the formula is cookie dough...
“We’re the ones who made this studio” AMEN AND GOD BLESS THIS WOMAN TILL THE END. TRUE LEGEND. I shall do the same
Carole Kaye is an amazing player...! One of the best....! Obviously those nitwits at the studio had no idea who they were dealing with...! A LEGEND...!
She wasn't nearly forceful enough at that studio. The last known survivor of a byegone era being treated as if she is some tourist?
with a name like hawk no surprise youre a douchebag
Like she said, they’re probably recording garbage anyway. (I’m paraphrasing)
@monokhem Roll over and buy another Justin Bieber album, fool.
@monokhem sorry but can't compare the beach boys ( and i dont like them much) or sam cooke to the biebers of today, also, she wrote parts for the music which became staples in popular music, that is hardly just playing back up
@monokhem lol oh wow you never heard him plagiarizing chuck berry? it is a well known fact but if you want to stay in denial so be it lol
Don't feel bad Carol, these young fools probably didn't even know who Sam Cook was!
I remember hearing about the Three Stooges being denied entrance into Columbia Studios after 30 years with the studio!
Cooke with an e
God, it’s pathetic how some people are trying so hard to feel smart about knowing who Carol is, that you’re just making up silly shit that means nothing. If the Three Stooges didn’t work there then they should be denied RANDOM entry just like this studio did with Carol. She planned badly. That’s nobody else’s fault but hers and the film crew. They probably went along with her arrogance about it, like the doors would open and the wine would start flowing and all the old buddies would be there. You want to speculate, mine’s better than yours.
@@jamescarter3196 Read it again. What he said, Mr Dumbia, is they WORKED for Columbia! Just as Carol worked with Ocean Way Recording studios. She worked with some of their biggest stars that helped the studio get where it is today. But neither Columbia or Ocean Way worked with Jethro Tull, who wrote the song "Thick as a Brick", which seems to describe you.
@@wordreet
Actually he's got a point. If you're not currently employed in a workplace, an owner, or a client of it, you cannot simply walk in off the street and demand entry. Doesn't matter how much history you've got there. Now, most places can be quite accommodating if you arrange something with them ahead of time. But to simply walk in and demand entry is unreasonable at best, criminal at worst.
I'm technically a "millennial", but I definitely love the music and culture of the 60's and early 70's... However this thread is showing me for the gazillionth time something must have gone terribly wrong because most babyboomers ended up being frustrated self-entitled "can I speak to your manager"-type old sour tarts.
Yes, she probably made a lot of money for that studio decades ago, but she also always had an easily replaceable role and a LOT of people that were/are a LOT more important made/make that studio a lot of money as well. There is no excuse for waddling in unannounced with a passive-aggressive entitled attitude expecting everybody to instantly drop everything for her. Respect is earned and she surely didn't earn any respect with that attitude
Carol, we adore and honor you. Forever Carol!! Screw that studio
I love you Carol 😍. You are the reason I'm playing bass in my band right now ‼️Those people in the studio will never know what they lost by turning you away. 🎸
Imagine being responsible for so many hit records and being snubbed like that . For the first time in a long long time I am at a loss for words .
No, you just wrote words. ‘Loss for words’ means you don’t know what to say. Imagine being at the front desk of an active recording studio and some random person who claims to have worked there thirty years or more ago walks in during a session and expects it’s a good time to wander around looking at stuff. That’s called ‘poor planning’ on her part, accented by some pointless arrogance about ‘who she is’, and she’s one of dozens of guns-for-hire who worked behind the scenes. The secretaries don’t need to recognize everybody who ever did that.
James Carter wow that escalated quickly !!!
Imagine randomly walking into a studio where people are working and thinking your shit don't stink, expecting to be treated like royalty.
Most humans forget a lot. Same as kids don't even respect their parents who fed them. Without our mothers' help we'd all be dead. Same as Isaac Newton would go into a garage and wanna do a documentary if he was still alive, and he would be snubbed. Without Newton, we would be in the stone age still.
@@jamescarter3196 --- She is one of the most prolific recorded bass guitarists in rock and pop music, playing on an estimated 10,000 recordings in a career spanning over 50 years. --- Never hurts to be nice to older people and perhaps she should have called ahead but you think they could use that smartphone and do a quick search to see who they are kicking to the curb.
UNBELIEVABLE. Utterly REPUGNANT. It is incredible to me how we get a taste of what she is capable of as an artist, everything she has accomplished, and who she recorded with, and they pretty much just kicked her out. Makes me ill.
What's it like, being that weak?
thetevinator: I agree with u 100%! I'm effing pissed after seeing that!
"ya, know...that kinda stuff". Yeah, like the most iconic sounds ever recorded
This is what I've found in Business today...Young people get into these jobs because they're young....and they have no knowledge of the history of their profession/what made, and still makes, their profession great! They don't care about history and so they make the same stupid mistakes we made when we were young and creating that profession. If they respected those older Professionals, they would learn how to do it right, which would save corporations millions and make those young people much more efficient and successful.
Those "Studio owners" Were completely clueless, they call themselves musicians or producers etc..and they don't even know who Carol Kaye is. Pathetic hacks. Shows what the Music industry is all about these days. Nothing to do with music just money.And mopst of the "Artists" these days couldnt play or sing themselves out of an auto tuned wet paper bag.
Psssssssr ! It was about money than too
If ever there was a case you were justified in saying "don't you know who I am?"...well *this was it!*
No, she isn’t famous. “Don’t you know who I am” is obnoxious shit even for people who ARE famous. How is that hard to understand? Most people don’t know who she is, just like hundreds of other great studio musicians you don’t know about.
James Carter
Jeez, don't lose a kidney about it, calm yourself man!
It's all about context...
Yes you're right many people wouldn't recognise her or know who she is because she's not a 'star' as such, but in this case the people that ran that studio should have recognised her historical significance there.
A woman who participated in over 10,000 records...
Wow...
one of the best female bass players ever.. she nailed it really during all those old days..kudos to Carole Kaye.. thanks i found this channel. good job
In a better, alternate universe...
Studio Manager: [bursting into studio] Hey, guys, here's your once-in-a-lifetime chance to meet a legend! Carol Kaye's in the lobby! [Goes to leave, to tell next studio]
Engineer: "Hold up, man. We're on the clock here!"
Studio Manager: "Are you crazy? Forget the clock. This is on me. I'd never forgive myself if you missed her... and neither would you!"
Amen, Harold!!
Yup thats what should have happened!
Then everyone woke up.
Ignorant, self important individuals.
*boassinfield3* 'Ignorant' in that they didn't know who she was? Yes. "Self Important"? No, they had jobs to do, and for all we know, 30 people a day come into that office asking to speak with the executives there. They were doing their jobs and they aren't SUPPOSED to know who she was.
Hi Mr Charlie, I have been involved in music for 50 +yrs and customer service for nearly 40yrs, they could have at least inquired further as to her legitimacy, with just an internal phone call. Simples and good manners.
Business is business. Your 90+ years of whatever won't change that.
Good manners do not cost anything, that is good business.
*boassinfields* Your experience and longevity are impressive, but as others have said, she walked into a recording studio. Why should those low level office people, who are doing their jobs by questioning her, know about what she did from 1968 and before, when they weren't even born in 1978. She RETIRED 50 years prior and she was a BACKGROUND PERSON. No reason for them to know who she was, nor care since she brought a camerman in while their bosses and more senior employees are busy recording more recent and relevant artists. They were quite polite with her, just told her they're busy. Taking time to make calls and ask further is NOT what they get paid for.
Unbelievable. Disrespect at a whole new level. They are working in the Industry. They should know the name Carol Kaye
@monokhem if she isn't important you should not even be allowed to breathe the air on this earth
@monokhem scathing reply
a woman playing like she can at the time she did with the wrecking crew...yeah, she us a legend. retired engineer , here.
@monokhem "Novelty"??? Kanye West is a "Novelty" half of the musicians today are novelties and who will they say they worked with for all those years?? Oh right, they wont because its all computer, digital etc whatever you want to call it, no musicians have to show up, they do it all on a machine.This ol lady can still play an instrument.
@@Roxy-ch4gv I agree - if Quincy Jones does an arrangement but leaves the Bass part blank because he trusts her judgement and ability, then that is all you need to know.
@3:34 "Hi I'm Carol Kaye..." me: "WTF!!! - step right this way LEGEND!!! Recording session OVER, CAROL F-in KAYE IN THE HOUSE!!!"
I got to see a couple of sessions of the wrecking crew,and got to meet both Kay,and Leon Russel afterwards. What a great lady !!! Thank You for your years of hard work,Carol !!! Who knew the fame they would achieve ??
So much respect for Carol Kaye. The wrecking crew are rock 'n roll royalty
This woman is the real deal. One of the best guitar player's around.
What an amazing woman. She deserves to in the R&R Hall of Fame (if she isn't already?) and probably more so than most who are.
Virgin Studio Walk:
- Doesn't know what a 'Carol Kaye' even is.
- if you're older than Justin Beiber, you're not important.
- musical legend comes through? Wait till I'm done with my mocha latte.
Chad Carol Kaye:
- invented the grooves that defined the popular music currently being butchered at the studio.
- appeared on more hot records than these artist ever will.
- So good that Quincy Jones said, "Just do whatever".
you totally nailed it !
Okay, Boomer!
Straight fax fuck those studio people
@@silvermachine6062 Okay, boomer!
Carole Kaye and the Wrecking Crew belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!
I agree!
Absolutely!
You've lost that lovin feelin, Good Vibrations, Help Me Rhonda, I Get Around, God Only Knows, I was made to love her, Something Stupid, Feelin Alright, Way We Were, Indian Reservation, Natural Man, A Little Less Conversation, Witchita Lineman, Galveston, Someday We'll Be Together, Aint No Mountain High Enough, Don't Pull Your Love, It Must Be Him, 12th of Never, Tiny Bubbles, Im a Believer, Last Train to Clarksville, Homeward Bound, I am a Rock, River Deep Mountain High, This DIamond Ring, Light My FIre, Love Child, Baby Love, Reflections, I Cant Help Myself, Midnight Confessions, Gypsies Tramps and Thieves, La Bamba , The Beat Goes On...……………….and so many more.
You're welcome! Make sure you tell Lucy!
What!?!!!????
Thanks for the education! I must confess my ignorance & admit I had never heard of Carol until today, she is an absolute genius
There was a reason they asked her to play on all of these songs and more. It wasn't because she was the Last Choice because no one else wanted to. It was because her bass lines helped to sell records and they knew it.
Gonna have to take Good Vibrations off the list actually. Most people credit her for the song and it's one of "her" most famous basslines but it isnt actually hers. She did sit ins for it but her recordings didnt make it on the final, published versions.
Not to take away from all the other incredible bass work she did. She had some phenomenal bass lines.
Best bassist of her generation, shreds on guitar. Talent is talent.
They should have taken a break, and listened carefully to anything this lady had to say. Their loss.
*jim* It wasn't a 'loss' to them. Who are you to tell others what they should/should not do?
Mr. Charlie . They can do whatever they want, it's their session. I have worked in a recording studio for 30 years. I would have taken a break.
I doubt the people in the lobby were the ones doing the session.
They're probably the interns or the runners
Damn hand her a frackin guitar and tell her to sit in...solid gold my friends...nothing like ignorance to feed lost opportunity
Can you believe this ? This artist is years above of me in age and I would still greet her on rose petals ! Her music is fantastic ! Can't believe she got kicked out of the studio she helped build !
Carol is a legend
“I made a lot of money for this studio, by the way” Legend 😂
She’s a true Gem!
The studio probably had a boy band singing thru Auto-tune !
This woman is a national treasure! It is people like this who should be receiving awards at the Kennedy Center in DC!
What a disgrace! I can’t believe she was so graceful. Respect for Carol!
So graceful that she didn’t contact the studio to find a good time to go there, and then pulled the “I’m famous” bullshit when they didn’t let her wander around during business. She planned poorly and whined about it, and insulted them with some imaginary sour-grapes shit when she didn’t have a clue what was going on in the studio and there could have damn well been somebody every bit as talented as her back there.
@@jamescarter3196 Why don't you shove your stupid comments up your ass, dumb fuck!
Would those dim wits in the front office had been as curt and dismissive if
- Carol had been male
- was Brian Wilson
- was cool looking and twenty two
- been accompanied by executive types
- was an inductee in the Rock an Roll Hall of Fame?
Where is this studio?
There is no 6050 ocean way in Los Angeles. What’s the studio name?
Just cos she's a middle aged lady those young twerps virtually dismissed her and threw her out! They should be fired!!!!
Middle aged? Dude, do you know what middle aged is? She was playing music in the 50's that was a long time ago, dude.
I'm technically a "millennial", but I definitely love the music and culture of the 60's and early 70's... However this thread is showing me for the gazillionth time something must have gone terribly wrong because most babyboomers ended up being frustrated self-entitled "can I speak to your manager"-type old sour tarts.
Yes, she probably made a lot of money for that studio decades ago, but she also always had an easily replaceable role and a LOT of people that were/are a LOT more important made/make that studio a lot of money as well. There is no excuse for waddling in unannounced with a passive-aggressive entitled attitude expecting everybody to instantly drop everything for her. Respect is earned and she surely didn't earn any respect with that attitude
@Kirk Moore Quoting 1 word of my reply, using my generation as an insult, dismissing my opinion as a joke without any counterargument... Thanks for proving my point!
Candisa : go play on Snapchat or something 🤦🏽♂️
@Kirk Moore What's wrong with you? Seriously, what the heck went wrong? I was only born in the eighties, I want to learn what happened to make your generation so bittered. The 60's should have been the ideal circumstances to become the most peaceful and compassionate generation, but it seems like the opposite happened. So sad. :(
Carol is royalty compared to those studio fools. Let her in.
I was hoping someone would come out and invite her to "sit in" on the session. Dam brats!
if i owned that studio I would have sacked them the second after watching this video
No, you wouldn’t because that would be incredibly stupid, and that’s why you don’t run a recording studio. You’d let random people come in to fuck around while your clients are expecting to get work done. It’s not a museum.
@@jamescarter3196 you think she's random?
@@jamescarter3196 Well they should know who the fuck she is her photo and name is all over the fucking studio walls!
@@wideyxyz2271
I take it you normally have former employees walk in off the street and waltz around your workplace with a camera crew while clients are on site? Curious.
Captain Rhodes You would be running the crappiest studio in town. Soon to be out of business. You never actually worked in a studio have you? Egos are for losers in the studio.
"They're cutting something that will never sell." Love it.
Okay, Boomer!
The punks nowadays will never be anywhere near the level of this lady in talent, love of the music, or respect from the people that made rock n roll.
Tosin Abasi
I watched this video many times, and I still can't get over the DISRESPECT that they showed Carol Kaye at that studio.
if sam cooke walked in they wouldn't know him either..and kick his ass to the curb...
The end reminds me of Nixon: "When you're out, you are REALLY out."
I've felt it myself.
4:08 Hilarious, those two showing her the door that weren't even born when she was recording in that studio.