It's no surprise that Fernando and Seb were some of the few to support the idea. Fernando has had some very close calls himself while Seb, knowing almost all of F1 history, was aware of how it could save people's lives. No one knows the sport better than these two veterans
Beautiful comment! Missing Seb! The legend cited every champion backwards from nowadays up until the start of the sport we so much love, in chronological order, year by year... He is champion for that alone!
F1 safety took a massive leap after the darkest weekend in F1 history from the 29th of April till the 1st of May 1994. Rubens Barrichello nearly died on Friday. Saturday and Sunday we lost Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna (who really did not wanted to race that Sunday and had a Austrian flag in the car to honour Roland). Much to the efforts of Max Mosely and Sid Watkins. Not forgetting in the old days drivers lost their lives also due to poor track conditions. There was a driverstrike in the 70's because the guardrails around the track were falling off and even missing in some places. The drivers of those days the may not be forgotten in their own fight for safety and what it archieved. The foundation of the GPDA by Jackie Stewart and the likes. How tragic Bianchi's death was, it was then 20 years since F1 had claimed a life, since the last time was May 1st 1994.
Gilles Villeneuve did not die at the 1982 San Marino GP, but in an accident in Qualifying in Belgium the same year after touching the car of Jochen Mass.
I can't be the only one who thinks Halos look actually good on F1 cars, the flowing design really merges into the aerodynamic aesthetics of the machines.
Its hard to look at any old ipen wheel car even wany that are still just a few years afo an not think wow these guys are so exposed . Race cars are only safe on race tracks ....usually! Rhey hit anything that is immovable or not ment ot be hit by a race car just gets shredded. Look at the old footage of both Michael Waltrip an Mike harmons Race car stock cars that in different years hit the end on the concrete gate that opens to enter the race track . Both cars were cut in half an by some miracle in each accident the drivers were barely hurt ..an mike harmons was even more terrible as his split open car with him exposed!! to oncoming traffic!! got hit again! at high speed an he still was unhurt ....unforgettable. An this was just during practice.
Interesting but other say *and I tend to agree* that the deaths of Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna just 1 day apart at the 1994 San Marino grand prix is what really started the ball rolling when it came the FIA and F1 finally thinking properly. This includes higher cockpit protection, wheels tethers, collapsible steering racks the list goes on and on. But I do agree that the death of Jules Bianchi in 2015 at Suzuka (the first in F1 since Senna's untimely demise) was another catalyst that catapulted the powers at be into rethinking it's stance when it came to drivers head protection and finally doing something about it.
Senna's death was the original trigger. I agree. The difference between Senna and Bianchi's death was that, Bianchi's death happened in 2015. By this time, technology like carbon fibre and real-time crash testing (using test dummy) was available. FIA did introduce safety measures after Senna's death too. But with no real 'data' and non-availability of composite materials.. the measures were not going to be sufficient. Even the halo wasn't the original design FIA came up with. They wanted to make it a closed cockpit like how you have in a fighter jet. But halo was found to be equally effective, without the risk of trapping the driver in the event of a fire. (Without modern technology and testing, it was impossible to arrive at this conclusion.) That's also the reason why most teams opposed the halo. (Not because it was ugly). But because it doesn't look like it is very effective but limits the driver's vision and adds weight to the vehicle. But experience has shown that halo is indeed effective (as predicted by the testing results).
Honestly, given the subject matter of the video I feel like your approach to it is a bit satirical at times and the jokes don't really land. All the information is here, granted, but I feel like there was a more sensitive approach that could have been taken.
I remember the 2016 (i think) cars with a halo bolted on to test them. That truly looked horrific, so I kind of understand the reactions of people. But as soon as the cars were built with a halo in mind it looked perfectly fine. I love the cars from 2019-2021
While the looks of the Halo got the most air time, esp. by those that supported the halo, it was not the argument made against it to the FIA, and by most engineers and drivers. The primary concerns were the ability of a driver to self-extricate, especially when a car was upside down. Drivers complained it made getting out of the car more difficult, and that they could be trapped inside a car waiting for marshals to right the car before they could escape. Esp critical in a fire. While vision, was an early concern most drivers reported that you barely noticed it after just a few minutes in the car, but they still had some minor concerns about potential blind spots it may create. The vision concern was largely put to rest after drivers were able to experience it in free practice. Most the accidents sited after the introduction of the halo really did not save the drivers life. In all but Grosjean's and Zhou's crash we had similar accidents prior, and the evidence used to suggest the driver would have been killed is simply that something would have touched the driver's helmet. While Bianchi did eventually die from his crash, when you consider that his helmet came into direct head on contact with the bottom of the recovery vehicle, it is lucky he was not declared dead on the scene. It says a lot about how well the drivers head was already protected by the design of the cars. The roll hoop, and the crash structure of an F! car was designed so that a car sitting on top of another car would not hit the driver's helmet. It was also designed to deflect objects up and over a driver's head. While things like tires might hit the helmet, the helmet is designed to take such impacts. What the halo did was provide an addition level of protection by creating a larger space between the driver's helmet and large objects like cars and tires. Because we had incidents of cars going over the top of other cars, prior to the introduction of the halo, and those drivers regularly walked away, it is hard to say that these nearly identical incidents would suddenly have been fatal when just a couple years prior drivers walked away from this same type of accident. It is even questionable, if these incidents would have resulted in a serious injury, because of the nature of existing safety rules, and evidence that those measures worked in providing a safe enough space. Grosjean's accident is really the first accident in which the halo can truly be said to have saved the driver's life. The guard rail came at him in a way more similar to the recovery vehicle that killed Bianchi than cars bouncing over the top of other cars. It also went a very long way in demonstrating that concerns about drivers' ability to self-extract might not be as big an issue as initially thought. Zhou Guanyu's accident at Silverstone, kind of goes both ways. If you listen to the fear when he radio's the team while he is waiting to be extracted, you can completely understand the concerns over drivers' ability to self-extract. Thankfully it was mostly fear, and not a situation in which he needed to be immediately extracted to get him to safety. Thankfully fire was not a situation in that accident, but it does demonstrate that the halo does create some additional hazards. In that accident it is probably the second-best example of the halo helping a driver as well. Prior to the halo sand traps and an upside-down car were of great concern. Unlike a car going over another car. the roll hoop can sink into the sand allowing the drivers head to come into contact with the sand. Micheal Andretti had an incident in CART in the 90's in which he landed upside down in a sand trap, and there was a lot of concern, since the role hoop in those cars, were only a hoop, and not the airbox as well like in current F1 cars. The car sank down low enough that people worried that Michael could be in a bad situation, head possibly buried in the sand or the sand having caused him a head injury. Because the car sank in the sand it left no space for safety, or for self-extraction. In Zhou's case the halo clearly helps keep his head out of the sand. Especially important considering the car is skipping across the sand at that point, and still carrying a lot of speed. Michael's accident in CART his car lands upside down after rolling. Skipping across sand like Zhou did it would have been very easy for the sand to twist his neck in a way that could have paralyzed him or killed him. Unlike Grosjean's accident in which the halo spread the railing apart, keeping it from hitting his head straight on. Or like the other accident in which cars bounce over each other in a way that had already been anticipated and designed for, Zhou's accident could have gone many directions without the halo. It may very well have saved his life, or it may have saved him from a career ending injury. While slow close up examination does seem to suggest that he likely would have suffered some major injuries at a minimum, it is possible that he might have even walked away from that, it is so unusual that we have little to compare it to prior to the halo, and so many unknown and uncontrollable factors. Maybe others can think of one, but I can't think of any accident in the last 30years in which a car is upside down sliding like that. Typically, they roll or flip and then come to a rest upside down, which is an entirely different set of risks. Prior to the introduction of the halo I had concerns it may trade off safety for one kind of accident for greater risk for another type of accident. I still feel that is the case, but since Grosjean's accident, I feel the risk it does create is pretty low in F1 these days. Large fires after an accident are extremely rare, and even the small ones rarely put a driver inside the car at much risk. They typically burn themselves out before spreading, or never get very large because flammable liquids are so well contained these days. Grosjean's accident shows that when a large fire does occur these days it is accompanied with the kind of forces where the halo is most likely a benefit. Zhoe's accident shows that while the halo can reduce the ability to self-extract, and that, that can be very scary for the driver trapped upside down, the halo still protects the drivers. from more complex an unusual situations.
I absolutely HATE the Halo, its so ugly and it has taken away the look of a formula one car is supposed to like. However the Halo has proved its worth and stopped some serious incidents and accidents from becoming an awful lot worse than what it turned out to be. So they have done their job by increasing the safety of the drivers, but they make the cars look ridiculous, but if it helps save lives and serious injury, then I for one can put up with how it looks, if it saves lives. Anyone who thinks that they look good or cool, are out of their minds, but it's a good compromise when it comes to safety
Sadly it changed to the worst. It changed amazingly in safety but it bringed us unnecessary safety cars and red flags, an overly cautious FIA, the absence of racing in rain and further stupid rules. I wonder about two things. If Jules wouldn't have died, would he race at Ferrari now? The second is, would they still solve most of the incidents with simple yellows while the cranes are on track just like in the early 2010s? We will never get answers to these. RIP Jules
The most important is that just after that incident, the next season would introduce a "Virtual Safety Car (VSC)" that we all know today which the goal is to keep the whole grid slow without deploying a SC. Since on jules's accident the yellow flag were deployed in that sector but it was told late to marshalls and there's a a possibility that jules didn't see it since it's raining heavily. While most of VSC nowdays seems to unnecessary, it's for the good and from the lesson we've learned the hard way.
Yeah the absence of racing in the rain? Say that after dilano's fatal crash in Formula Regional just yesterday, and again in the rain at spa just like huberts
I'd say it's good to have it, but everyone forgets how safe the cars were without it. F1s progression and direction has made it more valuable then ever. Bigger and heavier cars, more dangerous tracks with less run off, and ect. It's no coincidence that we raced from 1994 to 2014 with really no issue besides some instances here and there with really needing one, but since it’s debut we had way more crashes that needed it more and more. F1s grading system is garbage realistically as it really good at determining safety. There are tracks that need so much unnecessary change, and then the things that needs changed they don’t change as it somehow fits the grading system.
Everyone also forgets the near misses that happen time to time. On 2007, the race where Markus Winkelhock led with a Spyker, a Toro Rosso slid off the track and the driver was lucky to only slide with the rear end of his car to the crane vehicle. Could have easily been as bad, if not worse, situation as the Jules collision.
I have seen many of these types of video about safety and the halo but not one has ever discussed the fact that the halo has been the main factor in the death of at least 2 drivers. At Spa 2 drivers have been T-boned and the halo has forced the nose of the car into the cockpit instead of going over the top like it would have done in the past without the halo in place. So far the only crash I have seen that the halo has definitely saved the driver was in Grosjean's crash. all of the others that these videos show as a definite life saved are just as bad as crashes that were happening for years before the halo was introduced and the drivers would always walk away from those crashes in the past. I'm not saying that the halo is a bad thing and should be removed but something really needs to happen to stop the deaths and injuries that this device is causing. Before the halo was introduced F1's Martin Brundle often discussed the downside of this device but then it seemed that he had got the corporate word from the FIA and he never discussed any downside to the device even when what he used to say were the downside actually started to happen.
Crazy to think that the only two pilots that were actually supporting the halo back in 2018 were the oldest. Drivers nowadays are not only getting worse on track
Showing the onboard footage of Senna's car right before he died while saying "Safety? Who needs that when you're going 200 miles per hour?" Was a bit tasteless.
2:16-2:20 i like how u did val’s name in finnish accent 👍👍👍. safety & performance > aesthetics. the halo, aeroscreen/windshield is 1 of the best features in an open wheel car🏎, just showed how many lived the halo, windhsield/aeroscreen saved.
Ah George running to check on Zhou after that doozy of a crash- man should have got a podium for that alone. I’m not a huge fan of his but I got teary that day bless him.
All is relative on these things. But Senna's death at Imola in 1994 had by far the biggest historical impact on Formula 1 safety culture. That such an icon could die racing had become unforgiveable.
I feel like, there isn't just the ONE Day that changed F1 forever. You could argue the same thing for Agust 1st 1976. Or May 1st 1994. Even the 25th July 2009 or 29th November 2020. There are so many dates in F1 history that are significant and I would argue that some are even more significant than the introduction of the halo, since it wouldn't matter, if the halo was great if the monocoque would break, or you'd be trapped in you're car, that literally exploded worse than Grosjean's or if your spine snapped, because you have no HANS-system. All steps in themselves were essential to not have had a fatal crash in F1 since 2014 and before that 1994, and F1 and the FIA continue to make the sport safer ever so slightly and step by step
Idc what people say about the halo. It's the best thing introduced to F1 as it's a massive improvement to safety. Just look at how many lifes it saved since introduction
I would argue that THE DAYS that really started it, were the deaths of Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna 1994. Why? 3 million people watched the funeral of Ayrton Senna. Yes. 3 million.
The roll bar isnt designed to flip cars back over, that's not its purpose. It's purpose is to prop the car up so the driver can still get out if it's upside down, as it creates a gap. Something which halo now prevents, mind you. Not to mention the many other problems with the halo that make it just as likely to take a life as save one. Had Romain's car penetrated the barrier a few inches less he would not have survived. As for Verstappen v Hamilton in Monza, the halo very nearly acted like a cradle for Verstappen's rear wheel and Hamilton was almost trapped. The HANS device and helmet would have done their jobs regardless and Hamilton would have been safe. Everyone likes to get excited about the halo when one gets marked up or damaged but most of the time that happens because they're in the way and the driver would have been safe regardless. When you look at it objectively, it's a heavy bulky piece of kit that forced a redesign of F1 cars which in turn impedes the racing and is just as likely to contribute to the taking of a life as much as the saving of one. If other measures were in place such as the full set of improved race suit components and those outdated armco barriers werent there the halo wouldnt have been necessary. Romain's gloves were a new 20 sec fire resistant material, I beleive the main suit was still the 10 sec material. Same with the sausage kerbs in the F2 accident and the Hamilton/Verstappen incident, take those out and neither of those cars ends up in the air. Halo is just a big ugly (from both an aesthetic and engineering perspective) band aid and the longer it's left unchanged the longer it will fester and eventually someone will die.
Charles leclerc 2018 was when the halo first saved a life and the f2 race was in 2022 so yea I do think the halo is the bust thing they added for saftey
Halo proves the theory that the more safe cars get, more reckless drivers get to be But let the kids play, we love to see wrecks on the track, as long they emerge unscathed
to all the people that say the Halo looks bad: I actually think it looks sick, not only is it an engineering marvel but it also looks kinda sick especially during crashes where the halo hard carries and saves the life of a racer, it's sleek, elegant, and decreases fatality by 17%, the only con is that our poor all flair no safety drivers can't just look and wave out of the car because the Halo is in the way... what a shame...
Honestly all jokes aside, I don’t think FIA has ever avoided something to meke safety worse, some eventuality are so rare that only if they happen they can make a change, regarding f1 past deaths, before 2000s, cars were really unsafe and there were’t the needed techonlogies to make such fast cars safe, I understand the irony but they aren’t so stupid at the FIA (apart from penalties)
The Halo saved Charles Leclercs life in his debut season in the first corner of Spa, where he would’ve been killed by Alonso’s McLaren (I believe). I also remember Ericsson in Monza on the main straight.
without the halo Bianca Bustamante would have been injured in a recent crash in F1 Academy, also Simon Pagenaud in indycar would have been in a more fatal accident in mid-ohio if it weren't for the aeroscreen, he had a similar crash to Zhou.
I would like to think the FIA learned their lesson after Jules death but they didn’t. They still allow tractors on the track in wet conditions while the cars are going faster than they should be with equipment and personnel on track. I’m of the opinion that if a tractor is needed for car recovery anywhere on the track a full safety car should be immediately called at the bare minimum. Especially when the track is wet. We almost had Gasly hit a tractor last year and did the FIA learn from it, nope. They blamed Gasly instead of saying shit we fucked up and should’ve thrown the red flag immediately. The decisions being made right now in the afterwards room are worrying and I hope nothing bad happens in the near future. Get your shit together FIA.
i always thought about how people could see with the middle bar of the halo until i went to ferrari land in spain where they put you in a real f1 car and make you drive on a sim and i didnt even notice the halos middle bar when i was driving
@@ILoveMySharks Dilano vant' hoff spun out in wet conditions at the long kemmel straight in spa, hit the barrier and bounced back onto the track where he was hit again by another car at 300kph Very similar to Hubert's crash in 2019
8:50 that was 2021 NOT 2018. spa 2018 would have been a good example from the correct year as cant remember who but soemone launched into leclerc having the wheel hit the side of the halo
I agree that the FIA is fairly incompetent, but sometimes bad things do have to happen for improvements to occur. Unfortunately, engineers cannot predict every single situation that can happen. They can engineer for the things they can think of, but reality has a way of showing us the things that weren't thought of. It's similar to the fact that most major medical advances happen as a result of war and helping heal those injured in combat. It sucks, yes, but without disaster, there isn't as much improvement.
There are several inaccuracies or blatant mistakes in this video. Neither Villeneuve nor Paletti died at the San Marino Grand Prix. Villeneuve died in Zolder, Belgium, and Paletti in Montreal, Canada, in totally unrelated accidents. Listing Hubert together with Clark or Rindt is kinda deceiving. While they all died during a Formula race (not all of them in F1), i'ts not totally fair to group together one of the very rare deaths of 21st century with just a couple examples of the very common mortal accidents of the 60s-70s era. Ben Sulayem, the current president of the FIA, is shown whenever you mention "FIA", despite him being in office since 2021. In 2014, the president of FIA was Jean Todt. The video shows crash test that have nothing to do with racing cars, such as those with three-point seatbelts. I'll close an eye on the typo in Max Verstappen's name. "We constantly have crashes these days", which is just a random claim. Roll-bars and survival cells were introduced after the halo?! What?! Also, the helicopters are mainly not there for safety but for TV broadcast. Heli ambulance is used when needed. So, how much mistakes should I expect from the whole history of Formula 1?
You seem convinced that the FIA didn't care about safety until Bianchi's death. You might want to take a look at the truly vast amount of research and and progress the FIA made in the 20 to 30 years beforehand - both in racing and road cars. Plus, several mentions of the FIA are accompanied by pictures of Mohammed bin Sulayem, who didn't take over the FIA until long after Bianchi's crash.
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It's no surprise that Fernando and Seb were some of the few to support the idea. Fernando has had some very close calls himself while Seb, knowing almost all of F1 history, was aware of how it could save people's lives. No one knows the sport better than these two veterans
Beautiful comment! Missing Seb! The legend cited every champion backwards from nowadays up until the start of the sport we so much love, in chronological order, year by year...
He is champion for that alone!
F1 safety took a massive leap after the darkest weekend in F1 history from the 29th of April till the 1st of May 1994. Rubens Barrichello nearly died on Friday. Saturday and Sunday we lost Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna (who really did not wanted to race that Sunday and had a Austrian flag in the car to honour Roland). Much to the efforts of Max Mosely and Sid Watkins. Not forgetting in the old days drivers lost their lives also due to poor track conditions. There was a driverstrike in the 70's because the guardrails around the track were falling off and even missing in some places. The drivers of those days the may not be forgotten in their own fight for safety and what it archieved. The foundation of the GPDA by Jackie Stewart and the likes. How tragic Bianchi's death was, it was then 20 years since F1 had claimed a life, since the last time was May 1st 1994.
Imola 1994 was the first death in a long time as well, for back in the day. with the last being 10ish years before that
Henry Surtees a tragic too. He’s just a passerby
That thumbnail tho... 👀😮💨
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Its fernando alonso in a 2018 ferrari 😮
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@@zinddyfernando didnt even drive the 2018 Ferrari thats Vettel in the thumbnail
@@marcstafanov8431 i know he drove for mclaren but thats not vettels helmet on the thumbnail
Gilles Villeneuve did not die at the 1982 San Marino GP, but in an accident in Qualifying in Belgium the same year after touching the car of Jochen Mass.
Absolutely !
And Paletti at the Canada grand prix, in Montreal, on the circuit Gilles-Villeneuve. It was only 3 races after Villeneuve’s death.
You also got it wrong. Gilles died at the dutch GP. :-)
@@pauljaworski9386 he died at the Belgium GP at Zolder in 1982.
@@pauljaworski9386zolder GP 1982.
I can't be the only one who thinks Halos look actually good on F1 cars, the flowing design really merges into the aerodynamic aesthetics of the machines.
Its hard to look at any old ipen wheel car even wany that are still just a few years afo an not think wow these guys are so exposed .
Race cars are only safe on race tracks ....usually!
Rhey hit anything that is immovable or not ment ot be hit by a race car just gets shredded.
Look at the old footage of both Michael Waltrip an Mike harmons Race car
stock cars that in different years hit the end on the concrete gate that opens to enter the race track .
Both cars were cut in half an by some miracle in each accident the drivers were barely hurt ..an mike harmons was even more terrible as his split open car with him exposed!!
to oncoming traffic!!
got hit again!
at high speed an he still was unhurt ....unforgettable.
An this was just during practice.
At first it looks ugly as sin but they did make an effort to make look seemless in the car
F1: "We care about safety"
Still F1: "Sausage curb go brrrr"
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1:16 Villeneuve died in zolder qualifying and paletti died at the start of the canadian gp in 1982
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Interesting but other say *and I tend to agree* that the deaths of Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna just 1 day apart at the 1994 San Marino grand prix is what really started the ball rolling when it came the FIA and F1 finally thinking properly. This includes higher cockpit protection, wheels tethers, collapsible steering racks the list goes on and on. But I do agree that the death of Jules Bianchi in 2015 at Suzuka (the first in F1 since Senna's untimely demise) was another catalyst that catapulted the powers at be into rethinking it's stance when it came to drivers head protection and finally doing something about it.
Senna's death was the original trigger. I agree.
The difference between Senna and Bianchi's death was that, Bianchi's death happened in 2015. By this time, technology like carbon fibre and real-time crash testing (using test dummy) was available.
FIA did introduce safety measures after Senna's death too. But with no real 'data' and non-availability of composite materials.. the measures were not going to be sufficient.
Even the halo wasn't the original design FIA came up with. They wanted to make it a closed cockpit like how you have in a fighter jet. But halo was found to be equally effective, without the risk of trapping the driver in the event of a fire. (Without modern technology and testing, it was impossible to arrive at this conclusion.)
That's also the reason why most teams opposed the halo. (Not because it was ugly). But because it doesn't look like it is very effective but limits the driver's vision and adds weight to the vehicle.
But experience has shown that halo is indeed effective (as predicted by the testing results).
Grosjean crash was very scary to watch in live (Very good vidéo by the way)
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RIP to all that have lost their lives doing what they love. Sad to watch this video especially with the death of Dilano today.
That f2 clip where the halo was hit was in 2022
RIP Jules... 🤧
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You spoke with such a sarcastic voice through the whole video that sometimes I had no idea when you were actually sarcastic...
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1:20 Gilles Villeneuve died in Zolder, not in the San Marino GP...
And Riccardo Paletti died in the Canadian Grand Prix
I'm still surprised how thos channel got it wrong on that matter... Some new kind of AI generated channel ?
2:33 rush movie music vibe
That guy almost killed the 7 world champion in 2021 saying halo is not necessary.
from the title i thought it was either:
1. Vettel 2018 Germany crash (thumbnail)
2. V6 engines in 2014
3. Senna Crash
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Honestly, given the subject matter of the video I feel like your approach to it is a bit satirical at times and the jokes don't really land. All the information is here, granted, but I feel like there was a more sensitive approach that could have been taken.
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I remember the 2016 (i think) cars with a halo bolted on to test them. That truly looked horrific, so I kind of understand the reactions of people. But as soon as the cars were built with a halo in mind it looked perfectly fine. I love the cars from 2019-2021
While the looks of the Halo got the most air time, esp. by those that supported the halo, it was not the argument made against it to the FIA, and by most engineers and drivers. The primary concerns were the ability of a driver to self-extricate, especially when a car was upside down. Drivers complained it made getting out of the car more difficult, and that they could be trapped inside a car waiting for marshals to right the car before they could escape. Esp critical in a fire. While vision, was an early concern most drivers reported that you barely noticed it after just a few minutes in the car, but they still had some minor concerns about potential blind spots it may create. The vision concern was largely put to rest after drivers were able to experience it in free practice.
Most the accidents sited after the introduction of the halo really did not save the drivers life. In all but Grosjean's and Zhou's crash we had similar accidents prior, and the evidence used to suggest the driver would have been killed is simply that something would have touched the driver's helmet. While Bianchi did eventually die from his crash, when you consider that his helmet came into direct head on contact with the bottom of the recovery vehicle, it is lucky he was not declared dead on the scene. It says a lot about how well the drivers head was already protected by the design of the cars. The roll hoop, and the crash structure of an F! car was designed so that a car sitting on top of another car would not hit the driver's helmet. It was also designed to deflect objects up and over a driver's head. While things like tires might hit the helmet, the helmet is designed to take such impacts.
What the halo did was provide an addition level of protection by creating a larger space between the driver's helmet and large objects like cars and tires. Because we had incidents of cars going over the top of other cars, prior to the introduction of the halo, and those drivers regularly walked away, it is hard to say that these nearly identical incidents would suddenly have been fatal when just a couple years prior drivers walked away from this same type of accident. It is even questionable, if these incidents would have resulted in a serious injury, because of the nature of existing safety rules, and evidence that those measures worked in providing a safe enough space.
Grosjean's accident is really the first accident in which the halo can truly be said to have saved the driver's life. The guard rail came at him in a way more similar to the recovery vehicle that killed Bianchi than cars bouncing over the top of other cars. It also went a very long way in demonstrating that concerns about drivers' ability to self-extract might not be as big an issue as initially thought. Zhou Guanyu's accident at Silverstone, kind of goes both ways. If you listen to the fear when he radio's the team while he is waiting to be extracted, you can completely understand the concerns over drivers' ability to self-extract. Thankfully it was mostly fear, and not a situation in which he needed to be immediately extracted to get him to safety. Thankfully fire was not a situation in that accident, but it does demonstrate that the halo does create some additional hazards. In that accident it is probably the second-best example of the halo helping a driver as well. Prior to the halo sand traps and an upside-down car were of great concern. Unlike a car going over another car. the roll hoop can sink into the sand allowing the drivers head to come into contact with the sand. Micheal Andretti had an incident in CART in the 90's in which he landed upside down in a sand trap, and there was a lot of concern, since the role hoop in those cars, were only a hoop, and not the airbox as well like in current F1 cars. The car sank down low enough that people worried that Michael could be in a bad situation, head possibly buried in the sand or the sand having caused him a head injury. Because the car sank in the sand it left no space for safety, or for self-extraction.
In Zhou's case the halo clearly helps keep his head out of the sand. Especially important considering the car is skipping across the sand at that point, and still carrying a lot of speed. Michael's accident in CART his car lands upside down after rolling. Skipping across sand like Zhou did it would have been very easy for the sand to twist his neck in a way that could have paralyzed him or killed him. Unlike Grosjean's accident in which the halo spread the railing apart, keeping it from hitting his head straight on. Or like the other accident in which cars bounce over each other in a way that had already been anticipated and designed for, Zhou's accident could have gone many directions without the halo. It may very well have saved his life, or it may have saved him from a career ending injury. While slow close up examination does seem to suggest that he likely would have suffered some major injuries at a minimum, it is possible that he might have even walked away from that, it is so unusual that we have little to compare it to prior to the halo, and so many unknown and uncontrollable factors. Maybe others can think of one, but I can't think of any accident in the last 30years in which a car is upside down sliding like that. Typically, they roll or flip and then come to a rest upside down, which is an entirely different set of risks.
Prior to the introduction of the halo I had concerns it may trade off safety for one kind of accident for greater risk for another type of accident. I still feel that is the case, but since Grosjean's accident, I feel the risk it does create is pretty low in F1 these days. Large fires after an accident are extremely rare, and even the small ones rarely put a driver inside the car at much risk. They typically burn themselves out before spreading, or never get very large because flammable liquids are so well contained these days. Grosjean's accident shows that when a large fire does occur these days it is accompanied with the kind of forces where the halo is most likely a benefit. Zhoe's accident shows that while the halo can reduce the ability to self-extract, and that, that can be very scary for the driver trapped upside down, the halo still protects the drivers. from more complex an unusual situations.
I absolutely HATE the Halo, its so ugly and it has taken away the look of a formula one car is supposed to like. However the Halo has proved its worth and stopped some serious incidents and accidents from becoming an awful lot worse than what it turned out to be. So they have done their job by increasing the safety of the drivers, but they make the cars look ridiculous, but if it helps save lives and serious injury, then I for one can put up with how it looks, if it saves lives. Anyone who thinks that they look good or cool, are out of their minds, but it's a good compromise when it comes to safety
It may not look the best, but after the halo was incorporated into the design I have to say it looks pretty good while also being useful
Paletti dies in Canada and Villeneuve died at Zolder Belgium
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Sadly it changed to the worst. It changed amazingly in safety but it bringed us unnecessary safety cars and red flags, an overly cautious FIA, the absence of racing in rain and further stupid rules. I wonder about two things. If Jules wouldn't have died, would he race at Ferrari now? The second is, would they still solve most of the incidents with simple yellows while the cranes are on track just like in the early 2010s? We will never get answers to these. RIP Jules
The most important is that just after that incident, the next season would introduce a "Virtual Safety Car (VSC)" that we all know today which the goal is to keep the whole grid slow without deploying a SC. Since on jules's accident the yellow flag were deployed in that sector but it was told late to marshalls and there's a a possibility that jules didn't see it since it's raining heavily. While most of VSC nowdays seems to unnecessary, it's for the good and from the lesson we've learned the hard way.
Yeah the absence of racing in the rain? Say that after dilano's fatal crash in Formula Regional just yesterday, and again in the rain at spa just like huberts
I would rather have 1000 races ruined by safety cars and red flags than 1 race where someone dies when it could've been prevented.
@@maxzifyfn7820 Slight correction, Hubert's crash was not in the rain the track was dry
I'd say it's good to have it, but everyone forgets how safe the cars were without it. F1s progression and direction has made it more valuable then ever. Bigger and heavier cars, more dangerous tracks with less run off, and ect. It's no coincidence that we raced from 1994 to 2014 with really no issue besides some instances here and there with really needing one, but since it’s debut we had way more crashes that needed it more and more. F1s grading system is garbage realistically as it really good at determining safety. There are tracks that need so much unnecessary change, and then the things that needs changed they don’t change as it somehow fits the grading system.
Everyone also forgets the near misses that happen time to time. On 2007, the race where Markus Winkelhock led with a Spyker, a Toro Rosso slid off the track and the driver was lucky to only slide with the rear end of his car to the crane vehicle. Could have easily been as bad, if not worse, situation as the Jules collision.
I have seen many of these types of video about safety and the halo but not one has ever discussed the fact that the halo has been the main factor in the death of at least 2 drivers. At Spa 2 drivers have been T-boned and the halo has forced the nose of the car into the cockpit instead of going over the top like it would have done in the past without the halo in place.
So far the only crash I have seen that the halo has definitely saved the driver was in Grosjean's crash. all of the others that these videos show as a definite life saved are just as bad as crashes that were happening for years before the halo was introduced and the drivers would always walk away from those crashes in the past.
I'm not saying that the halo is a bad thing and should be removed but something really needs to happen to stop the deaths and injuries that this device is causing. Before the halo was introduced F1's Martin Brundle often discussed the downside of this device but then it seemed that he had got the corporate word from the FIA and he never discussed any downside to the device even when what he used to say were the downside actually started to happen.
Giles unfortunately died at Zolder on May 8th 1982. I was regrettably very close to the accident. The first landing was around 2 metres from my feet.
F1 community after the halo saved multiple lives:
"Perhaps I treated you too harshly."
Crazy to think that the only two pilots that were actually supporting the halo back in 2018 were the oldest. Drivers nowadays are not only getting worse on track
Rip to all those legends ... R i p
Showing the onboard footage of Senna's car right before he died while saying "Safety? Who needs that when you're going 200 miles per hour?" Was a bit tasteless.
This is so underrated
Thanks mate, appreciate the support ❤️
Changed so much that last year there was a tractor on the track again in suzuka while cars where driving around
Title suggested it's about Japan 2014, but thumbnail said otherwise
Bro please from now on don’t show crashes that result in death. I thought the video was gonna cut away but it was a shock
2:16-2:20 i like how u did val’s name in finnish accent 👍👍👍.
safety & performance > aesthetics.
the halo, aeroscreen/windshield is 1 of the best features in an open wheel car🏎, just showed how many lived the halo, windhsield/aeroscreen saved.
1:17 GIlles Villeneuve lost his live in Zolder, Ricardo Palleti lost his live in Canada....
Not in Imola....
I was going to point out the same thing
6:29 Indycar uses a aeroscreen
Ah George running to check on Zhou after that doozy of a crash- man should have got a podium for that alone. I’m not a huge fan of his but I got teary that day bless him.
"F1 tracks need a certain numbers of tech pro barriers and enough run-off areas" unless you are in monaco
All is relative on these things.
But Senna's death at Imola in 1994 had by far the biggest historical impact on Formula 1 safety culture. That such an icon could die racing had become unforgiveable.
How does this channel not even have 1k subs. Anyway it's kinda crazy that they choose to race in conditions where helicopter medivac is not possible.
I am almost there 📈 thanks for the support mate❤️
ジュール・ビアンキは生きてれば絶対いいチームに行けたはず
Jules Bianchi could definitely have gone to a better team if he had lived.
ご冥福をお祈りいたします
R.I.P
You couldn't have written a more accurate description than this tbh... 🤦🏻♂
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Lewis Hamilton hating the halo then being saved by it is my favorite thing
Grojean also wasn't a fan until he nearly lost his actual head
At Arynton Senna funeral there was 2-3 MILLION people! R.I.P. Senna died at the San Marino GP in 1/4/ 1994. 😢
I was someone strongly opposed to the halo purely from a visual stand point. I've never been so glad to be wrong.
I feel like, there isn't just the ONE Day that changed F1 forever. You could argue the same thing for Agust 1st 1976. Or May 1st 1994. Even the 25th July 2009 or 29th November 2020.
There are so many dates in F1 history that are significant and I would argue that some are even more significant than the introduction of the halo, since it wouldn't matter, if the halo was great if the monocoque would break, or you'd be trapped in you're car, that literally exploded worse than Grosjean's or if your spine snapped, because you have no HANS-system. All steps in themselves were essential to not have had a fatal crash in F1 since 2014 and before that 1994, and F1 and the FIA continue to make the sport safer ever so slightly and step by step
that crash that happened to Zhou is THE worst case scenario situation for open wheelers thank fuck for the halo
Idc what people say about the halo. It's the best thing introduced to F1 as it's a massive improvement to safety. Just look at how many lifes it saved since introduction
IOM TT, NW200, ulster GP: hold my road
The hard irony that the halo would not have saved Jules.
I would argue that THE DAYS that really started it, were the deaths of Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna 1994.
Why? 3 million people watched the funeral of Ayrton Senna.
Yes. 3 million.
R.I.P. Jules Bianchi
The roll bar isnt designed to flip cars back over, that's not its purpose. It's purpose is to prop the car up so the driver can still get out if it's upside down, as it creates a gap. Something which halo now prevents, mind you.
Not to mention the many other problems with the halo that make it just as likely to take a life as save one. Had Romain's car penetrated the barrier a few inches less he would not have survived. As for Verstappen v Hamilton in Monza, the halo very nearly acted like a cradle for Verstappen's rear wheel and Hamilton was almost trapped. The HANS device and helmet would have done their jobs regardless and Hamilton would have been safe.
Everyone likes to get excited about the halo when one gets marked up or damaged but most of the time that happens because they're in the way and the driver would have been safe regardless.
When you look at it objectively, it's a heavy bulky piece of kit that forced a redesign of F1 cars which in turn impedes the racing and is just as likely to contribute to the taking of a life as much as the saving of one. If other measures were in place such as the full set of improved race suit components and those outdated armco barriers werent there the halo wouldnt have been necessary. Romain's gloves were a new 20 sec fire resistant material, I beleive the main suit was still the 10 sec material. Same with the sausage kerbs in the F2 accident and the Hamilton/Verstappen incident, take those out and neither of those cars ends up in the air.
Halo is just a big ugly (from both an aesthetic and engineering perspective) band aid and the longer it's left unchanged the longer it will fester and eventually someone will die.
It's funny that he asked about our safety when my car currently has a recall for the drivers side airbag
DFU to the f*cking moon 🚀
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Charles leclerc 2018 was when the halo first saved a life and the f2 race was in 2022 so yea I do think the halo is the bust thing they added for saftey
Halo proves the theory that the more safe cars get, more reckless drivers get to be
But let the kids play, we love to see wrecks on the track, as long they emerge unscathed
If we didn‘t have those safety standards, Lance Stroll would probably not drive anymore.
to all the people that say the Halo looks bad: I actually think it looks sick, not only is it an engineering marvel but it also looks kinda sick especially during crashes where the halo hard carries and saves the life of a racer, it's sleek, elegant, and decreases fatality by 17%, the only con is that our poor all flair no safety drivers can't just look and wave out of the car because the Halo is in the way... what a shame...
Honestly all jokes aside, I don’t think FIA has ever avoided something to meke safety worse, some eventuality are so rare that only if they happen they can make a change, regarding f1 past deaths, before 2000s, cars were really unsafe and there were’t the needed techonlogies to make such fast cars safe, I understand the irony but they aren’t so stupid at the FIA (apart from penalties)
The Halo saved Charles Leclercs life in his debut season in the first corner of Spa, where he would’ve been killed by Alonso’s McLaren (I believe). I also remember Ericsson in Monza on the main straight.
"The Day Formula 1 Changed Forever.." (many many different days)
without the halo Bianca Bustamante would have been injured in a recent crash in F1 Academy, also Simon Pagenaud in indycar would have been in a more fatal accident in mid-ohio if it weren't for the aeroscreen, he had a similar crash to Zhou.
doesn´t no one remember the 2022 Japan GP with the Traktor on track with Gaslys getting a penalty pretty much for complaining?
I would like to think the FIA learned their lesson after Jules death but they didn’t. They still allow tractors on the track in wet conditions while the cars are going faster than they should be with equipment and personnel on track. I’m of the opinion that if a tractor is needed for car recovery anywhere on the track a full safety car should be immediately called at the bare minimum. Especially when the track is wet. We almost had Gasly hit a tractor last year and did the FIA learn from it, nope. They blamed Gasly instead of saying shit we fucked up and should’ve thrown the red flag immediately. The decisions being made right now in the afterwards room are worrying and I hope nothing bad happens in the near future. Get your shit together FIA.
i always thought about how people could see with the middle bar of the halo until i went to ferrari land in spain where they put you in a real f1 car and make you drive on a sim and i didnt even notice the halos middle bar when i was driving
Indycar doesn't use the HALO. It uses a screen.
Halo came into f2 in 2018 and you showed a clip from the 2023 Silverstone F2 race 😂
Question
What about helmets?
Why didn't they save Senna and Bianchi? Aren't those supposed to protect driver's head at high speeds?
I really think the halo makes the car looks way better
This has become so much worse since Dilano's fatal crash in Formula Regional yesterday
wait wut
@@ILoveMySharks Dilano vant' hoff spun out in wet conditions at the long kemmel straight in spa, hit the barrier and bounced back onto the track where he was hit again by another car at 300kph
Very similar to Hubert's crash in 2019
oh R.I.P
The F2 crash was from 2022 bruv , not 2028
I only started Watching F1 about 4 years ago and I always thought the Halo was cool looking >.>
That f2 crash was last year, it was Hauger and nissany
8:45 the video is from 2022, and the halo was introduced in 2018??
Can you make a video about Formula E?
In Japan 2022 the fia didn't learn their lesson still
8:50 that was 2021 NOT 2018. spa 2018 would have been a good example from the correct year as cant remember who but soemone launched into leclerc having the wheel hit the side of the halo
I agree that the FIA is fairly incompetent, but sometimes bad things do have to happen for improvements to occur. Unfortunately, engineers cannot predict every single situation that can happen. They can engineer for the things they can think of, but reality has a way of showing us the things that weren't thought of. It's similar to the fact that most major medical advances happen as a result of war and helping heal those injured in combat. It sucks, yes, but without disaster, there isn't as much improvement.
Bianchi's crash was the FIA's fault. No car should race under those weather conditions. EVER.
It all thank to Niki Lauda the one that change the history of f1 safety.
There are several inaccuracies or blatant mistakes in this video.
Neither Villeneuve nor Paletti died at the San Marino Grand Prix. Villeneuve died in Zolder, Belgium, and Paletti in Montreal, Canada, in totally unrelated accidents.
Listing Hubert together with Clark or Rindt is kinda deceiving. While they all died during a Formula race (not all of them in F1), i'ts not totally fair to group together one of the very rare deaths of 21st century with just a couple examples of the very common mortal accidents of the 60s-70s era.
Ben Sulayem, the current president of the FIA, is shown whenever you mention "FIA", despite him being in office since 2021. In 2014, the president of FIA was Jean Todt.
The video shows crash test that have nothing to do with racing cars, such as those with three-point seatbelts.
I'll close an eye on the typo in Max Verstappen's name.
"We constantly have crashes these days", which is just a random claim.
Roll-bars and survival cells were introduced after the halo?! What?! Also, the helicopters are mainly not there for safety but for TV broadcast. Heli ambulance is used when needed.
So, how much mistakes should I expect from the whole history of Formula 1?
In min 0:50 that’s Ayrton Senna before his fatal crash?
Gilles did not die in San Marino gp but in belgium
1 may 1994, day when formula 1 changed...
HANS
Pit speed limit
New construction safety regulations (head, shassis, aero)
I really dont see why these tractors dont have the safe guards like trucks do on roads
You seem convinced that the FIA didn't care about safety until Bianchi's death. You might want to take a look at the truly vast amount of research and and progress the FIA made in the 20 to 30 years beforehand - both in racing and road cars. Plus, several mentions of the FIA are accompanied by pictures of Mohammed bin Sulayem, who didn't take over the FIA until long after Bianchi's crash.
that f2 crash at 8:47 only happened in 2022
In the Description, Jules died in 2014 not 2015
2014 crashed 2015 died in hospital