The REAL Origin of Knuckles the Echidna | Origin Oracle
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2021
- Knuckles the Echidna is Sonic the Hedgehog's first rival and guardian of the Master Emerald. With his upcoming appearance in the Sonic 2 Movie, let's dive into his origins across all Sonic media. Join TheMentok, the Origin Oracle, on a quest for knowledge.
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Sorry to so this but
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Ok but there's a problem, angel Island actually appeared in sonic mania and the cartoon, they might be cannon, but I think they aren't
really glossed over Knuckles the Cool Echidna and his role in Tamers12345's Sonic Underground.
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Knuckles in the OG lore was essentially innocent and pure in regards to his interactions with the bad guys due to his lack of social interaction. This led him to be more easily tricked. But in my opinion, that kinda explains why he always seems so angry. He's most likely frustrated with his own naivety.
“red sonik :D”
ngl, Jamaican Knuckles would be legendary.
Maybe one day
You missed an important point. The reason he is an "echidna" but looks nothing like an echidna. It is because hedgehog in Japanese is "spiky mouse" (hari nezumi) and echidna is "spiky mole" (hari mogura), so Sonic being a hedgehog, they just chose to make the new character another spiky rodent. And his design is primarily based on being a mole rather than being based on an echidna.
It’s cool to see the idea behind the design.
@@benpowell-punmaster1214 yeah, I really think the ideas about why Knuckles, Amy
and Fang were cool ideas got thrown out in favor of Sonic having a direct clone in the form of Shadow and then anything that could be a submissive hanger-on to Shadow.
That...actually makes a lot more sense given he likes to burrow. I mean,Echidnas make burrows but not to the same extent.
I feel like even though characters are named "the hedgehog" or "the echidna" other animal traits were incorporated into their designs, which is why sonic kinda looks cat like or why fang and bean are a jerboa and woodpecker respectively but they have wolf and duck traits too, or why charmy has a rodent nose despite being a bee
Yeah except he looks nothing like a mole either. You could say the digging and claws are roughly mole like but almost every rodent digs.
Sheesh that Knuckles scene in the trailer goes so raw it’s crazy 🔥 great video btw Mentok
That Knuckles scene has me hype. Love that it got as much attention as it did on the internet
I love that they gave him dreadlocks and then they later on had him embrace the Jamaican within.
3:40
We need this. I can't believe this didn't make it.
Or imagine Knuckles with an Australian accent because echidna are Australian animals
He had one in the OVA or was that Crash Bandicoot? It dont matter!
@@HistoryandReviews I think he did in the OVA. I can't quite remember though
Except the wanted him to have a Jamaican accent not Australian. And they are found in other countries too, if I'm not mistaken.
@@djantouahmed7319
1. You are mistaken. Echidna are a species only native to Australia.
2. I said it would be cool. I'm aware that they intended for him to be Jamaican, I literally timestamped the part where they say that. So how about you be quiet?
@@Ollie.H-2301 he’s all over the place Australian, Jamaican and Mayan (SA1 The base design for the Echidna tribe is based on the
Mayan temples etc.)
I'm Russian. That was hard to read foreign names in my childhood back in the 90s so I read Knuckles' name as "Knooklez" lol.
Btw I was thinking Knuckles was a red dinosaur.
I should start calling him Knooklez 😂
@@TheMentok haha it would be hilarious 😂
Coincidence? I always called him "Knooklez" as a joke..
@@loopyzoopy idk but it really may be a coincidence 😅
Bc У sounds like the English long U
Knuckles saying boomboclaat made my day
Here's the _concrete answer._ The Chaos Emeralds are given to Sonic and Tails when they complete the challenges from the "Special Zones." These Zones are pocket-dimensions meant to test if a person is worthy to possess the Chaos Emerald, so they are presented with one upon completion as a reward.
The _rest of the time_ that the Chaos Emeralds are _not_ in use, they exist in the Shrine on Angel Island, waiting for the next worthy successor to summon them, and return there once the wielder is done with them.
Knuckles apparently _never got this memo,_ and must've been napping through the events of the first and second Sonic Games if he never noticed that they went missing until then.
Don't you know already? He's always in scrap brain for some reason! \s
That's an awesome why to think about it
why do people live there then? and what about sonic mania
Thanks for making a video on red sonic man
"unlike Sonic, I don't chuckle"
0:41
Hearing Aquatic Mine open the video with that iconic shot of Knuckles from Adventure ~ I tell ya; it's the simple things in life.
One thing that became all the more clear to me while watching this very detailed & comprehensive review of Knuckles' history is that his recurring intro narrative makes things really difficult for him when it comes to fan-treatment.
Getting tricked and losing the emerald(s). Since it's happened so often from version to version and all the way up to this sparkling new Idris Elba movie rendition, there will always be people who only view Knuckles as "the gullible guy who screws up". Even when he subverts that trend and exhibits character growth, Sega is always reverting him back to the original mistake. They don't let Knuckles grow permanently like Shadow, Silver, or Blaze have been able to. Despite being such a great character, Knuckles has this enormous unfair stigma holding him back. I really hope things change for the better one day. Knuckles shows up and he's there to fight on Sonic's side without ever having to get manipulated first.
I agree with you 100% There’s so much more to Knuckles to explore. Here’s hoping the movie doesn’t cash in too heavily on that one blunder of getting tricked. While that may totally be Knuckles reason to join Eggman, I would love some bad blood between Sonic and his tribe to be the cause that they work through during the coarse of the movie. Thanks for watching! Glad this video got the attention it did
To be clear, Sonic is called blue Knuckles
Now that the movie has come out, I gotta say I really like how they approach knuckles. He’s still a bit of a dunce, but instead of being a genuine idiot that doesn’t have any remnant of a brain, he’s only “dumb” because he doesn’t understand modern technology. In every other aspect though, he’s pretty solid. He’s got a militaristic vibe of getting to the point of things and having a strong focus on his goal, he’s incredibly strong and probably even stronger than sonic in many aspects. He even has the same core backstory and motives of being part of a warrior echidna clan that possessed the emerald but was lost to an unfortunate war. And now is in search for the emerald, getting tricked by Eggman along the way and eventually leaning to work with and befriend sonic.
I love the thumbnail 😂
Great video man! I'm loving these in depth character videos, it's a great rundown of their history for causal fans like me. Also Sonic 2s trailer was awesome, looking forward to it!
I'm going to give this some focus. Looks like people really enjoy the origin stories :)
I definitely want a part 2 to this more about the movie lore and the clan! The clan seems to be the same one from SA1, and Tyson Hesse even revealed on twitter that the echidna who shot Longclaw with an arrow is actually Pachacamac. Therefore I think he’ll have some influence on the events of the second movie now that Knuckles is showing up on Earth confronting Sonic and if they’re still after his power (why they would still be doing so when Knuckles already has a very similar power is beyond me).
Pachacamac’s presence also may hint at the existence of Tikal in the movie continuity. In fact, the temple surrounded by waterfalls in the trailer resembles a real life temple in Guatemala in a Mayan city that shares her name.
I have a few videos on my channel that relate to the echidna clan where I go into more detail. I would totally love to see Tikal in the movie sequel(s), Pachacamac as a more active villain, and more relevance of them in the videos games and other media, because the echidna clan has so many more stories it could tell. I would like a Knuckles spin-off game that expands on that, though I don’t know if the Ken Penders situation would prevent SEGA from doing that if they wanted to. I assume they’d be fine as long as they stuck closer to how the clan is portrayed in SA1 and don’t draw any parallels to any plot points or characters from Penders’ works. He doesn’t own Knuckles, Tikal, Pachacamac, or any of those associated characters, and it’s not like he owns the rights to make a compelling story about echidnas.
Anyway, great video. Can’t wait to see more.
I agree with all this! Had no idea Hesse confirmed that as the Pac-Man. I’m wondering how they plan to tie Knuckles to that tribe as well. Will they be extinct at the time of the movie and does time move differently in Sonic’s world than on Earth? Wonder if Knuckles is still the last one in this lore. I appreciate the well thought out comment! I’ll definitely come back to Knuckles when the movie is out
imagine if they pull an x files and say that the knuckles tribe and the mayans had direct contact with eachother and helped eachother out from time to time
I'm totally with you here. The shot of Sonic on what is CLEARLY Angel Island with the Master Emerald makes me VERY excited for what's to come. Never thought in a million years that a live-action _Sonic_ franchise would be among my favorite video game movies. Don't get me wrong, I love Sonic and its lore, but man... With the last few games... I just didn't think Sega understood Sonic anymore. Glad to see the films are doing him justice, and I'm genuinely curious about Frontiers.
@@feshpince7181 gameplay might be hit or miss but the story wont Ian's got that covered
@@feshpince7181
With Sonic 2’s release, yeah they nailed the plotline from from Sonic 3. Hell, tails inclusion in the movie was also favored by the fans since the original Voice actress for tails got to shine in this movie!
Heck, I’m just glad that this movie did so well, and it’s clear that we might end up moving away from the human world back to Sonic’s dimension. There’s ALOT of ways to make these stories happen. Spin-offs, Tv shows, hell, Sega can move on and Make a Golden Axe or Phantasy Star movie if they wanted!
Point is, Sega’s game franchises are Ripe with Movie potential. It just depends if we’re even going to get 100% quality. That and considering how well Sonic turned out, they can choose to either continue going this direction or jumping onto a new ship after their 3rd entry.
Cause let’s face it, there are TTTOOOO MANY DAMN SONIC CHARACTERS! His universe is freaking Stuffed with a Cast of C to F tier characters that aren’t really that popular in the Series! So if they stop somewhere, it may as well be here.
''You can't just do a meme crossover-''
Sonic: Face It! You'll never get my MEME.
Knuckles: *Does it look like I need your MEME?*
As an early 90s kid, I appreciate this run down. I actually grew up reading the Archie comics, but stopped in middle school. The reference to Julie-sue and Laura-sue was like a wave of nostalgia, as Knuckles and his crew were my favorites in the comics. Thanks for the memories.
You should start to do more of these on unknown characters like satam
I’ve thought about it. Now that I’m done with the classic Sonic characters. The main ones at least, I might switch to Mario for next year just to change things up a little. I’ll definitely be back to continue the Sonic ones
@@TheMentok sounds great
High quality post about Knuckles, loving the content and information.
Awesome video as always my man! Love that you're digging into the Archie comics more.
oh did you know that Idris Elba is part Ugandan, so in the Sonic Movie 2 we technically have Ugandan Knuckles.
and we've come full circle
This is Dae wae
stop
Idris Elbow is part Ooba Dooba?
His father is from Sierra Leone and his mother from Ghana. He himself is british.
“Do i look liek I need to know da YOUR way?”
"unlike sonic i don't chuckle"
Cool but like in sonic boom you chuckle
The idea of Sonic Boom as an animated series came first; Rise of Lyric had to hastily adopt elements from the show's inception during its development.
One thing that seems extremely consistent is Knuckles getting tricked by Robotnik. It seems as though that's also gonna be his character arc in the newer sonic movies.
“You don’t f*** with ancient gods” he says, while wearing the Eye of Agamotto, an artifact that was LITERALLY USED TO F*** WITH AN ANCIENT GOD.
LOL great video!
B4 I watch this video i think this is his PERSONALITy
Introverted, a little naive, sees good in everyone, super super strong, sometimes hotheaded
I only watched sonic x and that's what I think
Love your video
I love your profile pic
I only just realised that Sonic and Knuckles met in the same way for both the games and movie: a punch in the face.
I would love to see a video on Fang/Nack, Bean, and Bark AKA Team Hooligan. Honey too! 😁
I have them and the Chaotix in line ;)
The Sonic Frontiers Prologue just came out, and OMG
This is amazing evolution of your channel gangsta paradise sonic amv now a popular UA-cam's talking about all things sonic
I appreciate that! I love people are starting to discover the channel for other reasons even though I loved the Gangsta’s Paradise meme! Making videos like this are a blast so I’m looking forward to more viewers tuning in :)
I wanna see how Idris’s sexy ass voice contributes to the continuity of Knuckle’s story. 🤔
I liked what Sega did with the clan in sonic chronicles the dark brotherhood. Too sad ken penders had to ruin that too.
7:25 For that I will unironically say “Thanks Ken Penders!”
Fun fact: In sonic underground Sonia is kunckles love interest in the series.
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People who know 👹
People who don't know 😃
@@underbro6627 some knows 😉😏
@@mediamuncher6982 i do and regret it
@@underbro6627 lol
@@mediamuncher6982 yes I regret many things like once when I was young I sat on a banana and my life was changed forever
Sonic underground was just built different
I like Knuckles more often. I think it's because of the Sonic 2 trailer or it's just that I have come to appreciate him.
This is the best bumbaclot video ever.
Excellent job as always on this
And I loved Knuckles ever since the Sonic the Hedgehog 3
I always played as him and I loved how they went into his background alil more in the comics and in the Sonic cartoons all the way to Sonic X
He’s one of my main favorite characters in the franchise growing up
🔥🔥🔥🔥👊🤘😎🤘👊🔥🔥🔥💎💎💎💎💎💎💎
Here's hoping he's badass in the upcoming movie :D
Looking forward to see your take on the film.
Can u do blaze next? :)
that intro was godly
The 2nd sonic movie will be coming out in April 2022 supposedly
Does nobody remember Sonic Chronicles? Probably the deepest dive into lore since the Adventure games!
My friend thought Knuckles was a dog
I HAVE BIG BRAIN IDEA
Sonic Heros: A game that brings in the three "Elements"
Blue, Speed
Yellow, Flight
Red, Strength
all represented in one color each
HOLY FU- TAILS GLOWS YELLOW WHEN HE FLYS FAST, SONIC GLOWS BLUE WHEN HE RUNS AND KNUCKLES' HANDS, HOLY FUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Imma keep this page up HERE and just watch for relplies
I am so glad that the voice actor that plays knuckles is actress idris elba I love knuckles he have been my favorite character in the sonic franchise since sonic & knuckles back in the day ❤
Fire a Jamaica knuckles? Some one need to do a update with that
Damn, still got to watch the movies.
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So Knuckles is the Vegeta of the Sonic saga. He's always had a kind of anti-hero trait.
Do the true history of sonic next
3:36 Go watch "The Super Subway Bros. Flatbush Depot Review" I go full on Jamaican 🤣
So we just leave out Ugandan Knuckles
Dr. Edgeman: Sonk , meet Nack les
His Sonic Underground counterpart is the closest we get to having elements from the games. Not to mention Brian Drummond's great at voicing him.
"Do I look I need your powers nigga"
Phenomenal video my good man😊🥰👍💯💕💞💖
Thank you, thank you 😊
worlds colide comic , in he list to check ,is that chash with Megaman
It's sad to think that Sega probably won't ever be able to focus heavily on Knuckles' family history because Penders would try to claim ownership on it if they even seem to do anything too close to what he wrote.
(also as a Brit who didn't get the Archie comics and read a bunch of them later on... I kinda really dig the entire history he wrote with the Clan and the Dark Legion and everything... so it really sucks)
When’s part 2 coming out?
Sad thing is in the Archie comics from before the game came out the Master Emerald was created with what fourteen or so regular chaos emeralds were absorbed by Mammoth mangol and when that power was turned against him by Knuckles hiding relatives the Brotherhood of Guardians
I wish we got a little bit clearer idea of everything to do with the echidnas. Even after this video it's still a bit convoluted and confusing.
All this explanation about Knuckles role in the lore and absolutely no mention that he's a rap god.
How could I forget? 😩
The name "red sonic" is dope ngl... 😂😂😂
13:24 Isnt Knuckles dads name in the Archie Comics Athair or something like that?
Knuckles took the emeralds and putted then in the special stages and knuckles
Athair was from the Archie comics and and I believe Sonic Underground made him the first comic character to appear in another medium.
Literally the first thing he ever does is chuckle
Well, okay, second. After the punch.
No mention of Sonic Chronicles?
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Jamaican Knuckles slayed me 😂
0:21 ok father
Knuckles speaking Patois made me howl with laughter. 3:38
HOW DID YOU GET THE LIKE BUTTON TO LIGHT UP WHEN YOU MENTIONED IT?!?!?!?!??!
5:29 what about mania?
That’s a good point. That mistake is on me. I excluded it since Mania references the classic versions/levels of the characters but it should have gotten a mention.
Liked the video, here's some algo juice.
Doesn’t the super emeralds confirm multiple set of chaos emeralds?
well, the super emeralds aren't canon
What is the sound clip at 3:43 aka Jamaican knuckles
Every time you use the chaos emeralds they change position
Hey, wait, if you play S3K as Knuckles, shouldn’t you technically start with all the Chaos Emeralds and only have to collect the Hyper ones? Never thought about that.
They added knuckles to sonic 2 the movie because he first appeared in sonic 2 the game
False. He first appears in Sonic The Hedgehog 3. Not 2. Tails’ first appearance was STH2.
Never liked Sonic Undergroud, (or as we knew it in France, "Sonic le Rebel") and the fact the already well known Knuckles by the time the series was on TV got inexplicably renamed "Castagne" in the French dub doesn’t help. (Nor did the atrociously of key singing of the same French dub.)
Anyway, thanks for the video.
I still don’t know what the source of the thumbnail is
Cool
I approve Jamaican knuckles
I still call Eggman Robotnick lol
So sonic ova is after sonic cd
The movie was AMAZING! I just got back from a screening YOU WONT BE DISAPPOINTED ESPECIALLY IF UR A FAN!
I can’t wait!
At this point nobody would want his power.
I loved the Archie comic series, and I will never stop being salty about the goddamn genesis wave.
Well when I was younger I used to call knuckles Red sonic 0:10
04:22 you kinda forgot Triple Trouble
I'll show that game some love soon. I more or less skipped that and Knuckles Chaotix to leave some room for the origin stories of Fang and the Chaotix
Is the graphic better or is it just me??????
The truth was penders wasn't getting paid enough
3:40. what am i hearing?