Great content Denis! You are really making order from chaos. I would like to add how much Django was influenced by Duke, tunes like Speevy and Mystery Pacific for example are practically covers. Thanks for the shout out!
wow, don't know how I missed this first time around. Fantastic video Denis. You are the contemporary authority on all this stuff. Thanks for putting it out there!
Excellent. Watched start to finish. Your depth of knowledge and first-hand acquaintance with many of these players makes your historical viewpoint very compelling
Thanks Denis for the video. It was very informative. I think the definitive statement on the history and origins of "gypsy jazz" is Siv Lie's book. And hey people -- don't ever be that guy @ 1:04:29!
Cheers Thank you for posting this. Fabulous historical perspective…I loved this style from when I was first playing violin (1969) and transcribed many grapelli tunes before I got lost in Jean lu ponti and started working as a musician playing mostly shows, light music in show bands and then more classical in the 1980-1990’s I only recently returned to it about 4yrs ago and find soooo many of the players in Australia fixated on just one way to play…fast! This historical perspective gives a much broader brush stroke and is closer to my memories of those times…although not living in Paris nor from the family groups you mention being heavily influenced by Grappelli, Venuti etc and classically trained as they were having lived at the times you talk about it was actually all about the music and being a working muso…you played and were influenced by others and grew as a musician from those you were lucky to hear (live or on recordings on vinyl or put on real to real tapes ripped off the radio) and play with….I was blessed to grow up in a household that had sooo much great music from all round the world and cultures played almost 24/7 so gypsy, sinti, Hungarian gypsy, all types of jazz & classical has influenced me….well really just all music! great discussion….thanks! Its great that someone has deeply considered all the influences…maybe it shouldn’t be called gypsy jazz at all but rather D’jango music but then as a violinist the influences are more Grapelli….so maybe Grappelli music or we need to say “Hot Club” music! Who knows…and I love the culture of inclusiveness within jam sessions…heaven after the competitive combative classical world! Long may this music live and develop and grow…. Cheers K
@@DenisChangMusic that is very clear from the way you spoke….just lovely to hear it told as I remember it and as I heard from the stories as a young woman…look forward to more…
Just wondered if you have the full performance of that violin player and his name….you cut him off before he could play…and as a violinist it’s the core of learning to listen to others, especially would love to hear your take on that side of Sinti/manouche/Gypsy/d’jango/grappelli….👍🤞
Hi Denis! I've seen this video for the second time with more attention and it was more helpful than before. I absolutely agree about your explainig. You give me more wide vision about this music and of course different interpretations. Thanks so much man, ciao from Italy!
All your content is very very good quality. I like how you explain things from the beggining. Thanks for sharing Denis! Pd: excuse my french, i'm spanish (here the gadjos are called "gachós" or "payos")
Thanks for the shout out to the U.K. community who kept the Django flame alive when there was little interest elsewhere. Diz Disley basically relaunched Stephane’s career. I was in a band called Gypsy Jazz in the 80s and there was another group with the same name working at that time. Waso with Fapy were popular as well and often toured. The “ Django legacy” film in the 90s kick started the current popularity.
Great video! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!!! I was expecting more of a musicological treatment of the topic based on the title. You have touched on the social, musicological, historical, technological, psychological, and linguistic, and theoretical aspects of the topic. I think all these things are important to understand the life we lead. To add to my list above that may apply here: biological (availability of raw materials), medical (Django's injuries), genetic(DNA of Roma), mathematical? I guess what I'm getting at is that any line of inquiry can benefit from a multi-disciplinary approach. (side note: A liberal arts education may be helpful in this age of specialization). I guess musicology Is "interesting" because, (perhaps) the lack of physical evidence prior to the advent of recordings circa 1890.
thanks for a great and detailed lecture Denis, I know this can be discussed at length, but briefly would you mind describing the differences between the dutch and french accent of gypsy jazz? I've heard that references about the differences several times, but never seen any clear explanations or examples.
Hi Vic, yes it can be discussed in detail indeed hahhaa, but keep in mind that as i mentioned in the videos, things change, and who knows what things will be like 5 years from now, but traditionally Dutch style refers to the school of Stochelo Rosenberg, Jimmy Rosenberg, Feigeli Prisor, Paulus Schafer, etc. They have these long lines / licks that they practiced really well, and copy and paste them on various chords and chord progressions. Some have a bit more instinct and are able to manipulate the phrases a bit more, but by and large, that is the style. Because they have really worked on the phrases , their playing tends to be very clean and “perfect”. In the east of France, namely the Alsace / Lorraine region , of course, many players have licks as well, but generally they are more risk taking and tend to manipulate the phrases in the moment, so it’s generally a lot more improvised. So because of this combination of risk taking and in the moment improvisation, it’s not always perfect, and sometimes when they take huge risks, it’s not always the cleanest. In the east of France, they do a lot of cool rhythmic effects as well and are huge on that. Players like Brady Winterstein, Amati Schmitt , Mayo Hubert, Samson Schmitt, come to mind.
Hello, it's actually a Taiwanese folk song called Spring Breeze. Fapy was interested in playing Asian music so we did this! I noticed that due to an editing error, the volume drops by 9db towards the end. Argh!!!! It will be broadcast correctly at the Sakura Django Reinhardt Festival in July facebook.com/sakura.django
I wonder why we need to codify and say if Grappelli is gypsy jazz player….he was part of Django’s hot club and they both influenced each other….certainly in the violin world he was/is considered a gypsy jazz player…and the best at it, the grandfather of that style but actually his piano playing was equally as good….heard him on both instruments in 1974/5 in Australia!
Could you do a video on just the right hand? It seems to do it correctly they seem to play an abundance of downstrokes ( sometimes fast!). Am I seeing things? I love your channel, it’s tops. Thanks.
ur right --- it is ALL about intention. But having created a world in which TRUST is pretty much bankrupt and replaced by sterile money bought contractional agreement it starts to become proscribed to use ANY word at all for anything at all. Gotta wonder if we can survive this. btw. at 01,00 hr, lovely to hear manouche guitars sounding like the underwear drawer of every good christian should smell.
As far as I know, a majority of Taiwanese people that came before WWII make living by agriculture, and since beef is very expensive and we need buffalos to work for us so people at that time don't eat beef (though they are different species, but both of then are called cow in Taiwan) Also, people tend to eat at home more, since you already grow food ,it's cheaper, and you just have to walk home to eat. However, Han people that came after WWII make a living as being a soldier or as business, plus they don't own land in Taiwan, so they tend to eat outside(at restaurants) a lot more, that is also why it's super hard to find traditional Taiwanese food outside(even till now), but not so hard to find Chinese restaurant Not only did Han people that came after WWII bring in beef eating culture, but also noodle eating(people that came before WWII like to eat rice rather then noodle) and the culture of eating at restaurants --- The term of Taiwanese (language) I believe was created by Japanese when during colonization. They thought it's the language all Taiwanese speak, so they called it Taiwanese rather than Hokkien
Great content Denis! You are really making order from chaos. I would like to add how much Django was influenced by Duke, tunes like Speevy and Mystery Pacific for example are practically covers.
Thanks for the shout out!
You know I have to say this: אני עלול לאחר
Dear UA-cam Algorithm, Please promote Denis' hard work. Thank you.
I was so sad at the end of the video because I want to hear more !!! Thank you a lot !!!
Wow, not like I had the time, but I ended up watching til the end - so interesting, thanks Denis.
Wow Denis, great video. Thanks so much!
wow, don't know how I missed this first time around. Fantastic video Denis. You are the contemporary authority on all this stuff. Thanks for putting it out there!
Excellent. Watched start to finish. Your depth of knowledge and first-hand acquaintance with many of these players makes your historical viewpoint very compelling
Thanks a lot! Really interesting information and reflections
Loved the duo with Angelo Debarre. You guys were having fun!
Thanks Denis for the video. It was very informative. I think the definitive statement on the history and origins of "gypsy jazz" is Siv Lie's book. And hey people -- don't ever be that guy @ 1:04:29!
Very informative, thank you Denis.
Loving his ..............well done man !
Great work Denis
So nice to see Angelo Debarre behind the scene jams for DC music school
I appreciate your work
Thank you for you work and passion for gypsy jazz, Denis!!🙏
Great content, this deserve much more views!
Thanks, Denis. Your perspective and thoughts are really valuable to have available like this.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot for your generosity Denis!!! Hugs from México!!!
Watching this again. Thanks very much for sharing this info.
Cheers Thank you for posting this. Fabulous historical perspective…I loved this style from when I was first playing violin (1969) and transcribed many grapelli tunes before I got lost in Jean lu ponti and started working as a musician playing mostly shows, light music in show bands and then more classical in the 1980-1990’s I only recently returned to it about 4yrs ago and find soooo many of the players in Australia fixated on just one way to play…fast!
This historical perspective gives a much broader brush stroke and is closer to my memories of those times…although not living in Paris nor from the family groups you mention being heavily influenced by Grappelli, Venuti etc and classically trained as they were having lived at the times you talk about it was actually all about the music and being a working muso…you played and were influenced by others and grew as a musician from those you were lucky to hear (live or on recordings on vinyl or put on real to real tapes ripped off the radio) and play with….I was blessed to grow up in a household that had sooo much great music from all round the world and cultures played almost 24/7 so gypsy, sinti, Hungarian gypsy, all types of jazz & classical has influenced me….well really just all music!
great discussion….thanks! Its great that someone has deeply considered all the influences…maybe it shouldn’t be called gypsy jazz at all but rather D’jango music but then as a violinist the influences are more Grapelli….so maybe Grappelli music or we need to say
“Hot Club” music! Who knows…and I love the culture of inclusiveness within jam sessions…heaven after the competitive combative classical world!
Long may this music live and develop and grow….
Cheers
K
HI Karin! Thank you very much for your comment! I really love music history and learning about the social context of said history!
@@DenisChangMusic that is very clear from the way you spoke….just lovely to hear it told as I remember it and as I heard from the stories as a young woman…look forward to more…
Just wondered if you have the full performance of that violin player and his name….you cut him off before he could play…and as a violinist it’s the core of learning to listen to others, especially would love to hear your take on that side of Sinti/manouche/Gypsy/d’jango/grappelli….👍🤞
Amazing video, thank you for sharing your expertise!
Phenomenal !!! Thanks from So Oregon
Hi Denis! I've seen this video for the second time with more attention and it was more helpful than before. I absolutely agree about your explainig. You give me more wide vision about this music and of course different interpretations. Thanks so much man, ciao from Italy!
Thanks for putting out high quality content
Great video Denis! Really appreciate you sharing your knowledge and perspective!
Thank you Denis!
bravo Denis nice and interesting lesson thank you very much
Lovely tune 🧏🏻♀️
What a wonderful video lecture! Congratulations and thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge Denis! You're the best. Greetings from Brazil.
I love this music and this culture of course. So i've loved every single topic you've explained. Great job Denis!
All your content is very very good quality. I like how you explain things from the beggining. Thanks for sharing Denis!
Pd: excuse my french, i'm spanish (here the gadjos are called "gachós" or "payos")
Very informative! Thanks Denis!
Thank you for this discussion of Sinti , Roma, Manouche , Gypsy, gadjo, etc.
Thanks for the shout out to the U.K. community who kept the Django flame alive when there was little interest elsewhere. Diz Disley basically relaunched Stephane’s career. I was in a band called Gypsy Jazz in the 80s and there was another group with the same name working at that time. Waso with Fapy were popular as well and often toured. The “ Django legacy” film in the 90s kick started the current popularity.
Awesome video
I'm going to have to watch this at least once more. Thanks for putting it together!
Viper's Dream is not a Django composition ohhhhh fake news.
I think you re right , i remember thinking that as I said it. It just came out my mouth arrrrgh. Maybe i can edit it out within youtube
This is awesome Denis, thank you for the amazing work of all kinds ☺️
Latcho dennis you play good
Desde México, que viva el jazz
Ive bought first lesson from DC yesterday. Very high quality stuff. :) Opening tune is amazing!
thank you!!
Great & informative video Denis!
Great video! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!!!
I was expecting more of a musicological treatment of the topic based on the title. You have touched on the social, musicological, historical, technological, psychological, and linguistic, and theoretical aspects of the topic. I think all these things are important to understand the life we lead. To add to my list above that may apply here: biological (availability of raw materials), medical (Django's injuries), genetic(DNA of Roma), mathematical?
I guess what I'm getting at is that any line of inquiry can benefit from a multi-disciplinary approach. (side note: A liberal arts education may be helpful in this age of specialization). I guess musicology Is "interesting" because, (perhaps) the lack of physical evidence prior to the advent of recordings circa 1890.
Great video!
whats the name of the intro song?
great video lesson!!!
great job and hell yeah for fapy!
thanks for a great and detailed lecture Denis, I know this can be discussed at length, but briefly would you mind describing the differences between the dutch and french accent of gypsy jazz? I've heard that references about the differences several times, but never seen any clear explanations or examples.
Hi Vic, yes it can be discussed in detail indeed hahhaa, but keep in mind that as i mentioned in the videos, things change, and who knows what things will be like 5 years from now, but traditionally Dutch style refers to the school of Stochelo Rosenberg, Jimmy Rosenberg, Feigeli Prisor, Paulus Schafer, etc. They have these long lines / licks that they practiced really well, and copy and paste them on various chords and chord progressions. Some have a bit more instinct and are able to manipulate the phrases a bit more, but by and large, that is the style. Because they have really worked on the phrases , their playing tends to be very clean and “perfect”.
In the east of France, namely the Alsace / Lorraine region , of course, many players have licks as well, but generally they are more risk taking and tend to manipulate the phrases in the moment, so it’s generally a lot more improvised. So because of this combination of risk taking and in the moment improvisation, it’s not always perfect, and sometimes when they take huge risks, it’s not always the cleanest.
In the east of France, they do a lot of cool rhythmic effects as well and are huge on that. Players like Brady Winterstein, Amati Schmitt , Mayo Hubert, Samson Schmitt, come to mind.
WE DON'T HAVE PLACE FOR THAT KIND OF MUSIC? WOW! THAT'S F....K'D UP!
great
Great job my dear friend!
from Adlane...
Curious what model guitar Duved is playing in the performance… do you remember, Dennis?
Denis, what’s the name of the tune you played with Feigeli? Sounds a bit like bleu citron
By the way thanks again for an amazing video!
Hi that’s his composition, but I forget the name!
What’s the 1st song name? It’s very pretty and slow enough for a GJ starter for me
Hello, it's actually a Taiwanese folk song called Spring Breeze. Fapy was interested in playing Asian music so we did this! I noticed that due to an editing error, the volume drops by 9db towards the end. Argh!!!! It will be broadcast correctly at the Sakura Django Reinhardt Festival in July
facebook.com/sakura.django
Maybe you and Tony Gatlif could collaborate. Perhaps a new “gypsy” musical journey?
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What program did you use to merge them in time?
Final Cut
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Moral of this lecture is, opinions are like a--holes, everyone has one.
Oh oberg oh oberg
Do Sinti players call Grappelli a gypsy jazz player?! or they just categorized guitarists to be or not to be "gypsy jazz" players?
Don’t think there’s a consensus; i think opinions will vary.
I wonder why we need to codify and say if Grappelli is gypsy jazz player….he was part of Django’s hot club and they both influenced each other….certainly in the violin world he was/is considered a gypsy jazz player…and the best at it, the grandfather of that style but actually his piano playing was equally as good….heard him on both instruments in 1974/5 in Australia!
@@karingriffinelectricacoust8822 Yea, I agree with you :) I wish I had a chance to hear him live as well :\
@@migmig9406 💕
90 minutes... Damn! Put on a pot of coffee folks!
I’ve always said it, if jazz guys were cooler more people would like it. There, I said it for you.
Could you do a video on just the right hand? It seems to do it correctly they seem to play an abundance of downstrokes ( sometimes fast!). Am I seeing things? I love your channel, it’s tops. Thanks.
Taiwan No1 :)
ur right --- it is ALL about intention. But having created a world in which TRUST is pretty much bankrupt and replaced by sterile money bought contractional agreement it starts to become proscribed to use ANY word at all for anything at all. Gotta wonder if we can survive this.
btw. at 01,00 hr,
lovely to hear manouche guitars sounding like the underwear drawer of every good christian should smell.
As far as I know, a majority of Taiwanese people that came before WWII make living by agriculture, and since beef is very expensive and we need buffalos to work for us so people at that time don't eat beef (though they are different species, but both of then are called cow in Taiwan)
Also, people tend to eat at home more, since you already grow food ,it's cheaper, and you just have to walk home to eat. However, Han people that came after WWII make a living as being a soldier or as business, plus they don't own land in Taiwan, so they tend to eat outside(at restaurants) a lot more, that is also why it's super hard to find traditional Taiwanese food outside(even till now), but not so hard to find Chinese restaurant
Not only did Han people that came after WWII bring in beef eating culture, but also noodle eating(people that came before WWII like to eat rice rather then noodle) and the culture of eating at restaurants
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The term of Taiwanese (language) I believe was created by Japanese when during colonization.
They thought it's the language all Taiwanese speak, so they called it Taiwanese rather than Hokkien
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!