PONOS saw us complaining that everything is too powercreeped and easy and shot back by creating the objectively hardest stages in the game back to back.
The clan of brainwashed cats is the hardest, this one u kinda just need maxed normal cats or an uber, but explaining it this way makes it less complicated than it actually is😅
@@fredericodesousaferreira5020 that's what I mean, we thought Clan of the Malevolents was horrible enough but we didn't know that this was coming up right behind it. Two hardest stages in the game, a few days apart, pretty much back to back.
@@fredericodesousaferreira5020that’s the problem. It depends on what the player has that makes one stage harder than the other. If you don’t have maxed superfeline or strong ubers like balrog for this stage, then you’re fucked. If you don’t have good anti aku ubers for the malevolent stage, you are fucked but it’s still possible with rng
Guys for those who are attempting the first stage no uber (for some reason) I recommend you use those 6 units specifically and add in combos. After sending out Jamiera, send out Flying, wait a bit, and then send out Macho Leg, Island and King Dragon at the same time. Deploy Superfeline a little after you've sent out your 6th Flying Cat. This times it so that Superfeline kills Mr. Angel and Trolly Blogger in one swoop. Also, you should pray that Jamiera kbs or your units do enough damage to Doremi to kb it first, use sniper after it's first kb. I don't recommend doing it all normals like I did
PONOS chose one of the deadliest restriction for Doremi advent, but then they remembered Doremi should be a joke boss and managed to create a piss easy second stage Well done balancing advent maps
Btw its 100% possible to complete the 2nd stage with just lvl 20+90 flying cat and a lvl 50 BW Flying cat Cat combos were an atk up M, and 2 research up S
I used the same loadout except I replaced dragon cat with my level 60 Lasvoss with all talents unlocked save for health up, and a level 8 attack up talent. And equipped with a S grade black defense up orb. They way I did it was to send him in when the Doremi started blasting, if ur lucky enough some peons will make it to the front and chip down on Lasvoss' health, triggering his beserker. And if you are lucky, no sniper cat will disrupt Doremi, and you get a savage blow, you'll one-shot Doremi.
You can stack UT klay on the mr angel, so he basically solos doremi (not the whole stage obviously) Theres also loverog, chun li, and baby gao who can do it with them being level 60. Loverog and chun li needed max atk up combos and baby gao used research L + sm
Your only option would be if you were to rely on Jamiera kb procs, Island crits, and then somehow not losing everything to Kuro. True Superfeline just a very much needed burst option for this stage.
doing it with superfeline is already too luck based without superfeline however, it is still theoretically possible to clear the stage, but you will need extreme luck and that's just impractical
What's important here is the amount of DMG rather than the DPS. You need to break 90k DMG threshold quickly. And Superfeline is vital for that because he has the highest DMG among all Normal Cats. Yeah, it's not going to work without him.
I beat it's first stage (a bit of ubercarry, but still, if you want to, you can use my strat) Units: Li'l dark cat (not usable, only catcombo) Cutter cat (not usable, combo only) Manic Flying cat (not usable, combo only) Diabolosa (true form, combo only) Lilin (combo, lvl 30) D'arktanyan (lvl 41) Macho legs cat (lvl 20 + 61) Jamiera cat (lvl 20 + 58) Balrog (lvl 30, no talents) Issun Boshi (lvl 38, second form) Cannon: freeze, lvl 14 Use jamiera cat to defeat the alpacky, use the freeze cannon to defeat it after it has survive, after that, don't attack to get more money, after that you gotta spam the slow units (balrog, lilin, jamiera and legs) when they are close to the enemy base use d'artanyan and issun boshi, they are so fast that they are going to get close to base When doremi appears, he will get knockbacked lots of times, use freeze cannon sl he doesn't kill your stack, if he kills it, there is no problem, just keep spamming, when you have all ubers available keep spamming them, doremi should die, then you gotta destroy dark nyandam, which is the easiest part
Since papuu struggles with taking out large spammable units, why not pose a 5 unit max restriction on it? Or perhaps even units only 2000 cent or higher.
Wait so ur telling me i can just use lasvoss? Or balrog? Or citc? Or hades? Or yukimura? Or THUNDERJACK? Or darkt? Or dark iz? I can even pop yoshi in to annoy kurosawah lol
Did you know that, with research combo's a level 30 Dark Lazer can solo as long as you bought the wave and attack talents? Actually, Courier can solo too with some catseyes.
I just come here after defeating doremi thinking i was big brains for the keiji strat and after balrog i saw the same strategy...great minds think alike i guess 😅
No, she is very difficult to use here because of her attack rate, animation, and blind spot, she could help in the second stage though but for that one, just spam area attackers. Dark Garu, Shadow Gao, and Dark Iz should fare better than her in the wrath stage.
Special note:
Your Breakerblast needs to be at least on Lv25 to be able to reach Kurosawah.
Daaammmn thanks for the info. Gonna grind that rn
mine is Lv30 is enough?
@@lanceangelotrajano5337 more than enough
PONOS saw us complaining that everything is too powercreeped and easy and shot back by creating the objectively hardest stages in the game back to back.
The clan of brainwashed cats is the hardest, this one u kinda just need maxed normal cats or an uber, but explaining it this way makes it less complicated than it actually is😅
@@fredericodesousaferreira5020 that's what I mean, we thought Clan of the Malevolents was horrible enough but we didn't know that this was coming up right behind it. Two hardest stages in the game, a few days apart, pretty much back to back.
@@fredericodesousaferreira5020no, not really. There is one impossible stage in valentine event (the assassin bear one)
@@fredericodesousaferreira5020that’s the problem. It depends on what the player has that makes one stage harder than the other. If you don’t have maxed superfeline or strong ubers like balrog for this stage, then you’re fucked. If you don’t have good anti aku ubers for the malevolent stage, you are fucked but it’s still possible with rng
@@Darktanyanwhat’s the stage called?
First stage clutch wtf
Base hp up combo GOAT
It's nice to know the fact that even after years, you still use the same thumbnail format for revenge stages
if it's not broken, don't fix it
@@SilumanTomcatRebornyeah
This is a certified hood in classic
3:22 Making the mother of all Merciless advents here Jack! Can't fret over every boss
that second stage is legit just cubist crimes without the crimes 😭😭
Thunder Jack eating a Kurosawah and Doremi hit and still going is nuts
To be fair, Thunderjack was inside Doremi's blindspot so he only took attack from Kurosawah. Didn't undermine his feats, tho.
doremi has a blindspot?
oh my god both bakoo and doremi have blindspots
since when
@@britishperson1 50 blindspot. generally nobody can enter the blindspot
3:50 there's something satisfying about how Lil' Valk and Doremi's attack animation's line up
"outta ma way"
Bro got tag teamed
the bullied advent pulling up with the most astonishing restriction i've seen in a while was unexpected.
And getting passed when it sees balrog
Why would they impose such a harsh restriction on the first stage then follow it up with a stage filled with just peon spam???
And not even strong ones!! Like I’m baffled they didn’t throw in sir rels or wild doges
@@johnathan7313 still can be soloed with cyborg
@@johnathan7313 And thanks god they didn't put Wild Doges, cause they're annoying and have no backswing.
The green barrier on this stage has about as much worth as a zimbabwean dollar
Real
Shit has "you must be 18+ to enter" energy
my ass looking at the 16000 user rank and +58 superfeline at the table
pull out the balrog that everyone keeps in their back pocket at +5
Guys for those who are attempting the first stage no uber (for some reason) I recommend you use those 6 units specifically and add in combos.
After sending out Jamiera, send out Flying, wait a bit, and then send out Macho Leg, Island and King Dragon at the same time. Deploy Superfeline a little after you've sent out your 6th Flying Cat. This times it so that Superfeline kills Mr. Angel and Trolly Blogger in one swoop.
Also, you should pray that Jamiera kbs or your units do enough damage to Doremi to kb it first, use sniper after it's first kb.
I don't recommend doing it all normals like I did
Doremi finally took revenge from A.Bahamut 😈😈😈😈
bro is edgy
Yea and the new final stage can be soloed by dark lazar
She wasn’t very good at it
She really put all her points into one stat and still failed
7:00 *As all things should be...*
PONOS chose one of the deadliest restriction for Doremi advent, but then they remembered Doremi should be a joke boss and managed to create a piss easy second stage
Well done balancing advent maps
The fact a level 50 MML one taps almost every peon in the second stage… they really didn’t put effort
Good to know my favourite Uber is useful in this stage :D
I love how you used a remix of Doremi's theme from Touhou Project.
Symbolically
Doremi: No +90 Normals?
ALSO! Professional Babbler is the first stage to have the green barrier, check Chillhola vid to see it
In BCEN, some stages in 11th Anniversary had the green barrier long time ago
Did they really just copied king wahwah revenge stage 💀
Both stages too
Btw its 100% possible to complete the 2nd stage with just lvl 20+90 flying cat and a lvl 50 BW Flying cat
Cat combos were an atk up M, and 2 research up S
I just pulled Keiji the day Doremi went away. I assume that level 40 still requires full atk and strengthen talent with combos
These stages were actually a cake walk for me believe it or not
Keiji usage omg
The time that doremi LOCKED TF IN
The second stage happens when you read with your eyes and not your brain
Yeah..... Going out with the ubers on this one (the first stage) mostly because I'm not wasting more sniper items....
I think regular dragon has lower cool down and stuff, so you should use that
For the second stage, you can also just use a fully talented dark lazer (dmgUP, hpUP, Wave) with the Cool Japan combo. It's pretty much guaranteed.
Dark Lazer solo?
just remember that this guy beat ul 3 and 4 crowns long time ago
I used the same loadout except I replaced dragon cat with my level 60 Lasvoss with all talents unlocked save for health up, and a level 8 attack up talent. And equipped with a S grade black defense up orb.
They way I did it was to send him in when the Doremi started blasting, if ur lucky enough some peons will make it to the front and chip down on Lasvoss' health, triggering his beserker.
And if you are lucky, no sniper cat will disrupt Doremi, and you get a savage blow, you'll one-shot Doremi.
You can stack UT klay on the mr angel, so he basically solos doremi (not the whole stage obviously)
Theres also loverog, chun li, and baby gao who can do it with them being level 60. Loverog and chun li needed max atk up combos and baby gao used research L + sm
What is that green effect at 7:29?
green barrier. new anti-cheese. you can't harm enemy base until you defeat the boss
I wonder if it’s possible to beat it without Superfeline? Island and Jamiera already have really high DPS
Your only option would be if you were to rely on Jamiera kb procs, Island crits, and then somehow not losing everything to Kuro. True Superfeline just a very much needed burst option for this stage.
doing it with superfeline is already too luck based
without superfeline however, it is still theoretically possible to clear the stage, but you will need extreme luck and that's just impractical
What's important here is the amount of DMG rather than the DPS. You need to break 90k DMG threshold quickly. And Superfeline is vital for that because he has the highest DMG among all Normal Cats.
Yeah, it's not going to work without him.
Someone did it with 50+20 Cyborg with talents. I had 50+70 Cyborg without talents and it was enough for Professional Babbler stage.
I beat it's first stage (a bit of ubercarry, but still, if you want to, you can use my strat)
Units:
Li'l dark cat (not usable, only catcombo)
Cutter cat (not usable, combo only)
Manic Flying cat (not usable, combo only)
Diabolosa (true form, combo only)
Lilin (combo, lvl 30)
D'arktanyan (lvl 41)
Macho legs cat (lvl 20 + 61)
Jamiera cat (lvl 20 + 58)
Balrog (lvl 30, no talents)
Issun Boshi (lvl 38, second form)
Cannon: freeze, lvl 14
Use jamiera cat to defeat the alpacky, use the freeze cannon to defeat it after it has survive, after that, don't attack to get more money, after that you gotta spam the slow units (balrog, lilin, jamiera and legs) when they are close to the enemy base use d'artanyan and issun boshi, they are so fast that they are going to get close to base
When doremi appears, he will get knockbacked lots of times, use freeze cannon sl he doesn't kill your stack, if he kills it, there is no problem, just keep spamming, when you have all ubers available keep spamming them, doremi should die, then you gotta destroy dark nyandam, which is the easiest part
Now watch new ZL stages be absolute fucking nuts after this update
I bet Next revenge will be papuu
Restrictions of only "spaciel, super rare, uber rare, legend rare"
That would be easy though. Remember what happened to Wahwah's Wrath stage? Super Rare units are strong asf
Just special is enough(?)
Since papuu struggles with taking out large spammable units, why not pose a 5 unit max restriction on it?
Or perhaps even units only 2000 cent or higher.
It's gonna be Normal/Uber again
Not as hard as Doremi's advent, but annoying enough
Time to whip out the Chunchun again
now we need a real Dasli killer for Ponos to become a Major Threat against powercreeping
Metal Tackey
NEED AN EXPERT ON BABIES OUT THERE
I'm a baby myself, what do you need?
@@sansnyan982 HEY
@@sansnyan982 *WHAT ARE YOUR WEAKNESSES?*
can't believe jizo spam doesn't work, it worked for manic island and wahwah
Doremi is harder to knockback than WahWah. So probably won’t work unless he is boosted.
lvl 50 keiji works as well although he is quite expensive to get
with or without full talent investment?
Would the same strategy with talented Balrog work on the first stage?
yeah. that's on the video already
Guys im having problems beating the second stage
I have a question. Were we supposed to get kaoru cat on first day of collab? I didnt get it.
It's from the daily login Stamp. Day 5 or 7 I think
@@SilumanTomcatReborn k
Second stage should have had R.ost 150% . Or Henry. Or Sbk wild Doge sir rel.
Wait so ur telling me i can just use lasvoss? Or balrog? Or citc? Or hades? Or yukimura? Or THUNDERJACK? Or darkt? Or dark iz?
I can even pop yoshi in to annoy kurosawah lol
Yeah I swear to god people look at the restriction and act like its the end of the world when Doremi gets bullied by so many ubers
@@Calmtimermostly for the non gacha players xD
PONOS making a very easy stage after the hardest advent stage.
SMORT
thanks
THE BASE HAS THE GREEN BARRIER!!!
It will be easy advent with lvl 54 balrog
Why did I struggle to beat the second stage 😭
I know it's late buut RIIGHTT WAS IT THAT EASY?!?!
The second stage looks easier than the base doremi stage, what with the more cash available due to the peons
Did you know that, with research combo's a level 30 Dark Lazer can solo as long as you bought the wave and attack talents?
Actually, Courier can solo too with some catseyes.
@@casualkris4806 what level
Does Christmas keiji work for the revenge stage
No. Too weak and too slow
Bro Normal cat talents is the only way im going to beat this stage as a no gacha only player 😔😔😭 big sadge
dark cat use in 2024🤯🤯🤯🤯
That second stage is disappointing beyond belief after the first one.
i hope the tf unlock is good tho
Or just use both
I just come here after defeating doremi thinking i was big brains for the keiji strat and after balrog i saw the same strategy...great minds think alike i guess 😅
Yuki prob can At least solo the boss wave
Well agreeed
Even I are terrified by these restrictions.
*D’Arktanyan intensifies*
assasilan can solo trus
H
Iwak
Is D*sli great here? I just wanna get this shit over with
No, she is very difficult to use here because of her attack rate, animation, and blind spot, she could help in the second stage though but for that one, just spam area attackers. Dark Garu, Shadow Gao, and Dark Iz should fare better than her in the wrath stage.