@Greg Moonen He explained history with memes and jokes, covering up the backstory as well. He also indirectly tells us that war is not only about the battle, but the story behind the battle as well.
So, the "dumbest battle in history" is not the "dumbest battle", after all. In fact, I would not even call it a "battle", since it was just two regiments firing a few shots at each other and then retreating together. Still, I much appreciate that you took the time to find out the facts about this matter, M. Laser History. It is always better to know the truth than rely on fiction, not matter how dull or unentertaining the truth may be.
The figure of ten thousand casualties is plausible - if you include dead, wounded and missing - and if most of the missing were deserters. It's quite common for large numbers of soldiers to desert during a retreat. If soldiers get the idea that they're being led by a bunch of numpties, the temptation to make oneself scarce might be irresistible.
Especially true at a time when a significant percentage of the army doesn't really think of themselves as part of the national entity that's nominally in charge of them. People aren't keen to risk death in defense of someone else's army.
Wow am I glad that OverSimplified mentioned this channel! I’ve been binging your videos and am glad to see that your subscriber count is already skyrocketing! Keep up the great work!
as someone who served in the Austrian Army, i have the Theory that the Austrians knew, they were fighting Austrians. And there was Schnaps. They just could not agree how to share the Schnaps. I find this highly plausible.
Amazing coverage of this battle, for a future video suggestion could you cover the battle of The Battle of Alcácer Quibir, where all 3 'commanders' died in a single battle! As always, keep up the amazing work, and let me know if you need translated subtitles!
M. Laser uploaded yeah! This version of events seems definitely more plausible but maybe there were some Gypsies and drunken hussars involved somehow in the mess after all, who knows? 😁
Probably not as none of the sources from that year mention Gypsies or Hussars, in fact the first mentions of them comes only in around mid 19th century, so we can presume those parts where made up.
Still an interesting story nonetheless. I do think that the whole “allah” thing is pretty plausible as communication problems seem to be a constant issue in the Austrian Empire’s military history.
Toad Day Get Toad agreed. He puts all this effort and people don’t compliment him on that, they say “HeRe frOm OvERsImplIfied” cause they want attention
I'm also here because of Oversimplified. I love learning about interesting stories in history. It was my favorite subject in school and it is sad that most students today (I am a teacher) say that they find it boring. Please let me know if there are any other channels that have fun, short videos that I can tell stories about or show in class. Thanks and keep up the great work!
As always, great explaining! I'd love to see one day the origins of Finnish people (with an emphasis on Savonian ethnic group) and how they come to have this unusual language and culture.
Austrian Army: Trust no one, not even yourself!!! But seriously, the two more realistic accounts of what happened seem to be more embarrassing for the Austrians because in the over dramatized one the army at least had the excuse of being drunk. But here the army just ran into each other, completely sober, and attacked each other like some kind of cartoon.😹😹😹
@@MLaserHistory Well you already ruined Leichtenstein increasing their army size in a war. How about other wars, like the pig war or the war of Jenkins ear.
Nice video, it's always better to know sources and opinion from more than 1 side to prevent BIAS. BTW, could you maybe do a video about Ernst Gideon von Laudon, we learn about him as one of the most famous generals of 18th century, but in reality not many people outside of the formal Austrian states ever heard of him, maybe because of BIAS against Austrian military history or maybe because of low attention to Austrian military history at schools. It is a shame as he was truly one of the greatest military leaders of 18th century, Frederick the Great himself feared him. :)
The version Im familiar with has these dragoons buying the liqouer from these merchants gypsies close to the armys encampment after the sun sets. After a couple of barrels with schnapps and song, theres a quarrel between the soldiers. Someone fires in the dark. Soon to be followed by orders bein shouted such as "Halt", which is confused with "Allah" from a distance. Sounds of guns goin off echoe in the valley and when someone fires a cannon into own troops, and then allout chaos and panic ensues.
Possibly, there are so many iterations on the story that at this point everyone knows a slightly different version. I presented one of these versions in my first video and this video was to actually track down what really happened, which as you saw wasn't as bad as it is made out to be today.
It is easier and strategically more advantages to fight the Ottomans on a more open battlefield rather than in a mountain gap. You want to fight in a mountain gap when the enemy outnumbers you but when you outnumber the enemy (which they did) your prefer to fight an open battle as to be able to use your entire force at ones, hence that is why they where retreating to Timișoara which lies at the start of the Pannonian Plain.
@@Platanis2008 They where trying to cross the Danube at the iron gates as to fight in the Ottoman territory on the Wallachian plain instead of their own territory but losing the skirmish there they decided to go with plan B.
Prussia: I just made my soldiers shoot twice as faster and be the most disciplined army in europe, what about you austria? Austria: well....you see...I'm doing...ehhh...totally fine too...yeah you should see us in the battleground.... Prussia: Oh wow! Good for you cousin! And dont worry about showing us, we'll test that in Silesia Austria: ok good to see you anywa..wait what?!
No it's French, written by a French general and Duke of Ragusa Auguste de Marmont. I just happened to show a later (if you notice the date doesn't say 1834) picture of a Belgium publication of said book since that was the only copy I could find scanned.
½ of the comments are ''who else came here from oversimplified'' and the other half is ''½ of the comments are ''who else came here from oversimplified''
Ok práve som dopozeral oversimplified a kľikol som sem, ten znak mi prisiel povedomý tak som si pozrel qna a šupol komentár sem lebo je väčšia šanca ze si to prečítaš. Som tak rad ze su tu ludia zo Slovenska co robia takéto videa o histórii mna história vzdy bavila a zvykol som si pozerat anglických youtuberov a fakt ze ti si ty ma hreje pri srdiečku, želám ti veľa štastia nech sa ti darí a teraz ked ta oversimplified podporil hádam aj veľa wiews 😉 🇸🇰
Bol by si prekvapeny ale je vacsia sanca ze by som precital tvoj komentar na videu QNA lebo tam neni vela komentov tak by si vystaval. Ale dakujem sa pekne slova :D snazim sa. Ak hladas sk History channel tak som pocul ze Dejepis Inak je ok ale nikdy som ju nepozeral cize neviem povedat presne.
I guess a lot of people from him went to look at my videos and the algorithm put 1 and 1 together and decided if you like oversimplified you must like me, hence the recommended video.
The battle of Caransebeș its a Little town in my county of Caras Severin -ROUMANIA and yeah the Austrian soldiers they beat btwin thm its purely truth everything was started because scouts they deinking to much from here was fantastic
You wanna know something funny ? I subscribed to oversimplified after reading here that he shouted you out. Have been your subsrciber for some time tho :D
People who want to see real self own should check out the 1848 revolution of Hungary. Both sides used the same uniform and the chain of command led to the opposing side.
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This enraged M. Laser History who punished us severely
🤣🤣🤣
It's the only negative of a small channel getting a shout out
The comments basically disappear for a video or two
I'm too pretty to die :'(
Greg Moonen he’s a history Channel
@Greg Moonen He explained history with memes and jokes, covering up the backstory as well. He also indirectly tells us that war is not only about the battle, but the story behind the battle as well.
For a moment I thought this might have been a re-upload, so glad I clicked.
Yes!
So, the "dumbest battle in history" is not the "dumbest battle", after all. In fact, I would not even call it a "battle", since it was just two regiments firing a few shots at each other and then retreating together. Still, I much appreciate that you took the time to find out the facts about this matter, M. Laser History. It is always better to know the truth than rely on fiction, not matter how dull or unentertaining the truth may be.
Dumbest kuffufle in history
The dumbest retreat in history
Dumbest scurmish in history
Dumbest fight in history
Dumbest mistake in history
I came because of Oversimplifed :)
Subscribed :) Unlike other people I will stay even after this video
Me too
Me three (Let's keep this going)
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Me five. Loving this guy. I’ve found my next channel to binge
Me six
imagine being a small history youtuber being shouted out by oversimplified
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The figure of ten thousand casualties is plausible - if you include dead, wounded and missing - and if most of the missing were deserters. It's quite common for large numbers of soldiers to desert during a retreat. If soldiers get the idea that they're being led by a bunch of numpties, the temptation to make oneself scarce might be irresistible.
Especially true at a time when a significant percentage of the army doesn't really think of themselves as part of the national entity that's nominally in charge of them. People aren't keen to risk death in defense of someone else's army.
@@troodon1096 national identity doesn't really play that important of a role during this time
ethnic identity still does@@hjuy4049
Wow am I glad that OverSimplified mentioned this channel! I’ve been binging your videos and am glad to see that your subscriber count is already skyrocketing! Keep up the great work!
When did the do that and what video?
@@winchesterchua3311 the Bucket Wars video.
Also how I found this channel.
as someone who served in the Austrian Army, i have the Theory that the Austrians knew, they were fighting Austrians.
And there was Schnaps. They just could not agree how to share the Schnaps. I find this highly plausible.
ahhh then a justified battle it was.
Amazing coverage of this battle, for a future video suggestion could you cover the battle of The Battle of Alcácer Quibir, where all 3 'commanders' died in a single battle! As always, keep up the amazing work, and let me know if you need translated subtitles!
90% of Comments: I came cuz Oversimplified.
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Guest what? Oversimplified didn’t bring me here
Same
It was in my recommended
@@fredrickrodriguez2175 same
Same
Same
½ the comments are "who else came here from oversimplified"
Makes sense it’s half because now half of the subs are from oversimplified including me
the other half are "½ the comments are "who else came here from oversimplified""
I'm so glad oversimplified shouted you out, quality content.
Honestly I had no idea you existed until oversimplified mentioned you then I watched your history videos and you just got a new subscriber
M. Laser uploaded yeah!
This version of events seems definitely more plausible but maybe there were some Gypsies and drunken hussars involved somehow in the mess after all, who knows? 😁
Probably not as none of the sources from that year mention Gypsies or Hussars, in fact the first mentions of them comes only in around mid 19th century, so we can presume those parts where made up.
@@MLaserHistory Yeah, probably...
It's still fun to think about thought
Still an interesting story nonetheless. I do think that the whole “allah” thing is pretty plausible as communication problems seem to be a constant issue in the Austrian Empire’s military history.
Stop saying “here from oversimplified” please. This guys content is original
Here from Oversimplified! We can appreciate everyone doing history videos. Calm down.
Toad Day Get Toad Sorry, I just feel bad. Half of this guys fans are fake
Chicken Wang I’m sorry. Seems a shame though...I can tell this guy does his research thoroughly, and it’s awesome.
Toad Day Get Toad agreed. He puts all this effort and people don’t compliment him on that, they say “HeRe frOm OvERsImplIfied” cause they want attention
As original as history can get i suppose
when oversimplified showed your subs, it was 16K. now 26K. Good job!
Random Person nop it’s 37k
@@lafika1634 wow, he's growing fast!
@@NoobMaster-gn1us 46k now
@@kaimi4675 oversimplified in a nutshell i guess
@@NoobMaster-gn1us 64.4k now
A Turk here, never knew there was a battle where Turks kinda' virtually participated and somehow appeared victorious. Great video and explanation👋
Here from oversimplified great video man
As a Romanian, I find it hilarious this whole thing happened because some wallachians allegedly wanted to rob the austrian camp
As a german, I appreciate the more precise presentation
Now that's a bruh moment
I'm also here because of Oversimplified. I love learning about interesting stories in history. It was my favorite subject in school and it is sad that most students today (I am a teacher) say that they find it boring. Please let me know if there are any other channels that have fun, short videos that I can tell stories about or show in class. Thanks and keep up the great work!
As always, great explaining!
I'd love to see one day the origins of Finnish people (with an emphasis on Savonian ethnic group) and how they come to have this unusual language and culture.
Definitely on the list.
But at this point there's so much on the list who knows when I will get to it.
comming over from Oversimplified :D
Have a great day :)
Followed ;)
Austrian Army: Trust no one, not even yourself!!!
But seriously, the two more realistic accounts of what happened seem to be more embarrassing for the Austrians because in the over dramatized one the army at least had the excuse of being drunk. But here the army just ran into each other, completely sober, and attacked each other like some kind of cartoon.😹😹😹
🤣 and then run away
I love your videos, thank you for making something educational and entertaining
Thanks that you clarified this incident. A lot of people just say things they don't even know about, so thanks a lot
A drunken mistake seems less embarrassing than a sober one, at least to me.
Ty for making the bucket vid cuz of u we got da bucket dance from oversimplified and nice history videos u clearly deserve a sub
So it wasn't that bad after all. Thanks for ruining 2 of my favourite battles ever, The Battle of Karansebes and War of the Bucket.
You're welcome, any other I can try and ruin ? :)
@@MLaserHistory Well you already ruined Leichtenstein increasing their army size in a war. How about other wars, like the pig war or the war of Jenkins ear.
@@thechosenone1533 ok I'll look into it.
If oversimplified had not given m laser a shout out . Then I would never know about this wonderful channel.
First thing I see coming from Oversimplified is a video about a battle in Romania.
You instantly gained my respect.
Who else came here because UA-cam recommended this video and not because of oversimplified?
Goblin Slayer same although it was probably recommended because the algorithm saw a lot of oversimplified subscribers viewing this video
Goblin Slayer.... You LIE! You know you came from the man OS.
@@spencer9093 nah mate.
Im always watching history related stuff. Maybe thats how it Got to my recommendations.
Came from both
Aaaand Austria is still drunk and needs to go home.
In Turkey, this is shown as how "austrians were terrified of fighting turkish army alone"
In the end, Ottomans just walked in and took the land.
Nice video, it's always better to know sources and opinion from more than 1 side to prevent BIAS. BTW, could you maybe do a video about Ernst Gideon von Laudon, we learn about him as one of the most famous generals of 18th century, but in reality not many people outside of the formal Austrian states ever heard of him, maybe because of BIAS against Austrian military history or maybe because of low attention to Austrian military history at schools. It is a shame as he was truly one of the greatest military leaders of 18th century, Frederick the Great himself feared him. :)
"What are lies but cool stories that someone ruined with true"
glad to see oversimplified is endorsing you, hope your channel benefits greatly
You and me both.
I just watch some history of country ball then found this...
Also thx for telling the REAL story of the dumb bucket war
You deserved a sub
This and the video on the battle of Karansebes earned my subscription.
Here from oversimplified. Really good video
Oversimplifed people here to help :-)
Time 4 Chess Channel *here*
@@TeamCloud. cheers
Time 4 Chess Channel ok.
I found this channel because of Oversimplified which pleased me greatly. Dude, cool!
The truth is that those Romanian Haiducs made with the loot that day xD
The version I heard was that it was Croatians and Serbs fighting over barrels of schnapps which escalated to a full blown battle.
The version Im familiar with has these dragoons buying the liqouer from these merchants gypsies close to the armys encampment after the sun sets. After a couple of barrels with schnapps and song, theres a quarrel between the soldiers. Someone fires in the dark. Soon to be followed by orders bein shouted such as "Halt", which is confused with "Allah" from a distance. Sounds of guns goin off echoe in the valley and when someone fires a cannon into own troops, and then allout chaos and panic ensues.
Possibly, there are so many iterations on the story that at this point everyone knows a slightly different version.
I presented one of these versions in my first video and this video was to actually track down what really happened, which as you saw wasn't as bad as it is made out to be today.
Oversimplifed took me here,new sub for you(:
i came from Oversimplified planning on subscribing, but found out I've already subscribed! I been connected!
I don't know if that's a good thing that you forgot that you where subscribed to me.
I don't see your videos on my feed a lot, so I guess that's not good.
Might be the algorithm.
@@lu881 Might be.
I also don't upload that often so that could be it too.
@@MLaserHistory
Mhm🤔
Pretty cool you follow up on your previous video. Cheers!
"You mean like you did." You're awesome bro
The beacon is lit! The oversimplified army rides to M. Lasers aid!!!
Thank you.
Glad oversimplified recommended you. Love the video
Oversimplified didnt link m lasers channel in the description
This angered m laser who punished him severly
Wiktor33 M laser: “Dude, uncool”!
Damn, not going to lie those wallachians are badass
The austrian source is more logical and believable but it is still hilarious😃
In the end, there isn't much exaggeration
Your old video brought me here because you made this new video... gray videos tho since they’re sooo silly!
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I’m here from oversimplified, but I’ve been watching you videos since, and I’ve already watched loads of them and they’re great, keep it up
Thank you.
Came from Oversimplified. Are you Hungarian? The (faint) accent sounds like it. Great video!
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Im always in for History youtuber channel.
I'm Austrian and I find this hilarious
The mystery remains, why did a 100.000 men army withdrew without a fight and for no apparent reason...
It is easier and strategically more advantages to fight the Ottomans on a more open battlefield rather than in a mountain gap. You want to fight in a mountain gap when the enemy outnumbers you but when you outnumber the enemy (which they did) your prefer to fight an open battle as to be able to use your entire force at ones, hence that is why they where retreating to Timișoara which lies at the start of the Pannonian Plain.
@@MLaserHistory That's acceptable, but, then, why did they get there in the first place?
@@Platanis2008 They where trying to cross the Danube at the iron gates as to fight in the Ottoman territory on the Wallachian plain instead of their own territory but losing the skirmish there they decided to go with plan B.
Any good journalist will tell you, "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story."
I came here because of oversimplified, great channel, subscribed!
thanks bro, greetings from Colombia.
i came and subscribed for oversimplified and i will keep on watching mostly because I have watched all the videos of oversimplified and subscribed
Who else is from Oversimplified lmao
Me from bucket war
Yup
Wow! Please more of this.
So basically, there isn't much exaggeration, and exaggeration is mild by historical standards
Saying that 10k people died when in reality only a couple dozen at most is a pretty big exaggeration in my opinion.
Came here from the original video.
I really wanted to believe that at least booze was involved in the real story :(
Good job on the research!
Prussia: I just made my soldiers shoot twice as faster and be the most disciplined army in europe, what about you austria?
Austria: well....you see...I'm doing...ehhh...totally fine too...yeah you should see us in the battleground....
Prussia: Oh wow! Good for you cousin! And dont worry about showing us, we'll test that in Silesia
Austria: ok good to see you anywa..wait what?!
Oof frederick is coming
i think kings and generals should see this
PLEASE stop asking that, we are ALL here from OverSimplified!!! Ok, all, except of me...
oversimplified +1
"Société Typographique Belge" "Bruxelles" This is a belgian document not a french one
No it's French, written by a French general and Duke of Ragusa Auguste de Marmont.
I just happened to show a later (if you notice the date doesn't say 1834) picture of a Belgium publication of said book since that was the only copy I could find scanned.
@@MLaserHistory Yeah, sorry my mistake, I didn't see at first "This its 1837 reprint", again sorry
No worries.
½ of the comments are ''who else came here from oversimplified'' and the other half is ''½ of the comments are ''who else came here from oversimplified''
Ok práve som dopozeral oversimplified a kľikol som sem, ten znak mi prisiel povedomý tak som si pozrel qna a šupol komentár sem lebo je väčšia šanca ze si to prečítaš. Som tak rad ze su tu ludia zo Slovenska co robia takéto videa o histórii mna história vzdy bavila a zvykol som si pozerat anglických youtuberov a fakt ze ti si ty ma hreje pri srdiečku, želám ti veľa štastia nech sa ti darí a teraz ked ta oversimplified podporil hádam aj veľa wiews 😉 🇸🇰
Bol by si prekvapeny ale je vacsia sanca ze by som precital tvoj komentar na videu QNA lebo tam neni vela komentov tak by si vystaval.
Ale dakujem sa pekne slova :D snazim sa. Ak hladas sk History channel tak som pocul ze Dejepis Inak je ok ale nikdy som ju nepozeral cize neviem povedat presne.
Who is here because of oversimplified
Asbjørn Christiansen a lot of people
Me
Me
me
Me
A bucket brought me here.
"Blue on blue" Probably not the first time and certainly not the last ...
Your first source is one of my old profs.
Lol happens :D
But actually I think I show only he relevant sources in the video. There's more in the script.
Funny, I heard about you from Oversimplified but actually you appeared on my recommended. Nice!
I guess a lot of people from him went to look at my videos and the algorithm put 1 and 1 together and decided if you like oversimplified you must like me, hence the recommended video.
This is one of those "only on balkans" events. I know cause I live here..
i was expecting to learn about the vietnam invasion....
"The first casualty in war is the truth."
Great video man
Can you make video about Battle of Didgori?
Oversimplified sent me here! New subscriber 💛🙌🏾
Which oversimplified video mention M. Laser? I've been subscribe since Operation Odysseus
Thank you :)
And it was the War of the Bucket video.
He used my research from my war of the bucket video for that one.
The battle of Caransebeș its a Little town in my county of Caras Severin -ROUMANIA and yeah the Austrian soldiers they beat btwin thm its purely truth everything was started because scouts they deinking to much from here was fantastic
You wanna know something funny ? I subscribed to oversimplified after reading here that he shouted you out. Have been your subsrciber for some time tho :D
You deserve more subs!
I knew this story had to have been heavily exaggerated when the story told me that the non-German troops confused "halt" for "allahu akhbar!"
I also have the feeling that the Austrians may have published something similar to the german version to not look weak.
oversimplified?
After oversimplife talk about this , this video in recomanded
I guess the algorithm caught on a bit.
People who want to see real self own should check out the 1848 revolution of Hungary. Both sides used the same uniform and the chain of command led to the opposing side.
Really!?
I actually never heard of this.
Will definitely look in to it.
would be nice to see a vid on the romanian history, focusing especially on the post roman retreat to the formation of Wallachia and Moldavia
On the list for a while now but it's a very complicated subject that requires a lot of research.
@@MLaserHistory Romanian here. If you need sources, let me know.
LOL imagine that one officer with a strong turkish accent, and tried to say "Halt" but they hear you say "Allah"