Penn Battle III 4000 spin fishing reel how to take apart and service
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- This video shows how to that apart and service the popular Penn Battle 3 4000 spin fishing reel. I use a step by step process to guide you through how to do it yourself.
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Thank you for watching - Dennis
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I have the 3000 version of this reel. had the exact problem multiple times after kayak fishing. I never saw the issue but I service the reel after every paddle and the problem would go away. I assume it was a tiny grain of sand causing it to bind since sea water would always splash onto my gear. I love the reel and clean all my reels after each trip. I just feel for the guy that can't service their reel themselves...so, Dennis, your channel is a valuable service to everyone. Thanks.
Thanks - sounds like you are doing it right! Best wishes - Dennis
I really enjoy watching your videos but I would never be able to do this even if I took pics. You are truly amazing at your craft.
Thanks Darin - I appreciate the complement and your note. Best wishes - Dennis
Your way of explaining sure make it easy to understand.
Thank you. Glad it helped - Best wishes - Dennis
Phantom issues are always a cause for concern, but it looks like you got it. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. Either way, we all have our money on Dennis.
Thanks Tim - Some of these are harder to figure out. I guess that's where experience comes in
Very good video. Will try myself. Salt water is no joke, dry grease often. Thanks for sharing! Will try to practice dismantling and service my reels more often.
Thank you! Best wishes on the servicing and on the fishing with the reel - Dennis
Awesome video, I have the same reel and issue, going to break it down and service it myself thanks to you 🤙
Glad to have helped. Best wishes in servicing your reel - Dennis
I think your advice on backing off the drag when not in use is right on, especially for older reels with leather drags.
it applies to all, but especially the felt and or leather ones. The grease dries and binds them to the metals and you lose the drag play. Dennis
You can figure it all out Dennis
Thanks Rick
Thanks for the video, mine works great now.
YW - glad I was able to help
Dennis I love all reels but it seems to me the advanced something becomes the more chances there is for failure.. that's why I do love the older reels by simple but effective designs...
Me too. The are plusses - look at today's cars. 200K miles is not unusual but then again, a computer failure seems the norm. Same thing with reels. More dependable but more things to go wrong
Someone told me about HT-100 not needing any grease, thanks for the info. On my next maintenance, I will apply some Cal's on my Penn 4000 and 5000 drag washers.
You can run them dry, but they wear faster - Thanks for the note
Wow, I see they redesigned the anti-reverse clutch. No more tiny spring! I'm guessing there's no more anti-reverse over-ride switch.
That is correct. Penn eliminated the A/R over-ride on the Pursuit, Fierce and Battle lines and many others have also done away with it. The A/R clutch that is sealed doesn't allow for those springs and over-rides - Thanks for the note - Dennis
Great video once again. I think the issue was dried grease. I have a battle 2 with the same issue
Yeah - not sure but it did break free quickly. Hmmm - a mystery! Dennis
Hi Dennis,
Your videos have really helped me become proficient with servicing my reels myself, so I really appreciate you for that!
I have one of these reels that has been used two seasons now. It is still as smooth as butter though. Would you recommend still opening it up and doing a full re-greasing service? Just oil the exterior moving parts? Or wait for it to show signs of needing service? Curious your stance on this. Thanks!
I always recommend annual service. You can skip the service and pay the price when it finally tells you something is wrong, or you can service it and keep it going worry free - I prefer annual service - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle thanks for the reply Dennis. I’ll get to work!
Great video! I’ve got a similar problem on my battle III 4000 and this is really helpful. What did you spray the inside with to remove the dirts and grease?
I use a penetrating oil like WD40 as a solvent for the bad grease
Great video tutorials have you one on the Penn Surfblaster 8000 also do know if its possible to upgrade the bearings in it so it runs smoother and the line lay seems to be wrong, so need to add another washer sonething that seems very common on the Surfblaster apparently
The Surfblaster was not sold in the U.S. so I haven't seen one in for service. Yes, you can upgrade bearings with like for like replacements or by ordering ceramic bearings. You need to measure the bearing and make sure that the dimensions are the same for inside diameter, outside diameter and height. - Most manufacturers will include a few washers to level out the line lay. It it is spooling too high, you need to add a washer. Too low, subtract one until it lies evenly - Thanks- Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle thanks I built my own multiplier Xmas, I was going to buy a new reel but thought I'd have a go myself. I'm fine with multipliers but fixed spools I've not really messed with.
Id like to change the bearings in my fixed spool for ceramics so I'll measure them.
Here is a link to it and the description of the parts used
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Another great video Dennis. Thanks. Do you recommend oiling or greasing the exposed axle shaft after regular rinsing ( not taking the reel apart).
A drop of oil is fine
Hi Dennis, thanks for another great video! I dissembled my Battle III 5000, and cant seem to remember where the 4 shims go, can you help??? Looks like 2 gold ones and 2 silver ones. They looked like 1, but then I picked it up in my fingers and realized it was 4 different ones. Fell off somewhere in the process. Really appreciate any help!
The shims normally go on the main gear just under the side plate bearing.
If you get the schematic, it will show the location. It is part 8A in the schematic you you can get through this link www.mysticparts.com/Assets/images/pennparts/schematics/btliii5000.pdf Dennis
Can you show what the drag cap looks like on the underneath please? I lost mine and I am unsure on whether I need to order washer with the spare, cheers
Your drag cap is a stand alone assembly. Under the cap is the spool drag assembly. There is a retaining clip followed by 3 waters that are Atal and 3 fabric washers. They alternate fro the top metal, fabric and repeat. You top washer after the retaining clip should be metal. Thanks for asking - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Thanks, appreciate you getting back to me
Hi Dennis, just bought the same reel you’re working on, but would love to change it as far as the handle to what is on the Penn pursuit iv. Which they’re considering the power handle is that interchangeable? Or can I order a new power handle?
I'm not sure. Check with the folks at mysticparts.com They will know and will have the upgrade if it is available - Thanks - Dennis
Dennis, I’ve never bought one but what does an AR bearing like the one in this Battle III actually cost to replace. I was just curious. The only reels I have with AR bearings are the older type with override switches so I have no experience with these reels. Do you have any idea how many times in my years as a minister I answered theological questions with, “well, it’s a mystery.” Sometimes there isn’t a clear cut, black and white answer. I personally think you had some of that extra line caught in the spool and inadvertently freed it when you took the spool off but that’s a guess. I sent you a note today. Last night I got just about the last vintage saltwater reel still on my bucket list. - a Daiwa GS 9. I have three Daiwa 9000C reels that are very similar but this was the one I’ve wanted for a long time. We’re bracing for a tropical storm tomorrow here in Raleigh, NC. May God help all those affected by Hurricane Ian. - Chris
The A/R clutch is usually around $6-10 depending on the reel. Can't wait to see the GS9 pictures!
@@2ndChanceTackle Thanks for the info Dennis. I can’t wait to get the reel! We are under a Tropical Storm Warning here so it could be a long day! - Chris
Was the line caught in the shaft while it was trying to rotate ?
It was! That was corrected. Thanks for noticing -Dennis
Hi Dennis how do you inspect the bearings? I have a slight wobble in a Penn 4000.
I use an awl, pick or pencil to hold and test. spin the bearing and listen for noise. Rock the bearing side to side to test for sloppy play and wear
Hi Dennis,
I have the 4000, what can i do to make the drag clicker scream more louder?
Thanks
You can't change the noise level. It is the way the reel is designed - Dennis
Ok thanks
So I am working on a battle 3 5000. Having issues getting it back together. Any tips? Thanks.
What are the issues. If you let me know what part is troubling you, I can assist - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackleI appreciate your quick reply. It may be a couple days before I can take a picture and advise. Thanks!
@@2ndChanceTackle Sorry for the delay had out of town company in. I watched your video on the 6000 and figured it out. It was how the cross line piece fit in getting the knob on the wheel in the grove on it. Thanks so much for your help and your videos!
Do you have a go to spot of where to get a schematic for any given reel?
a good place to start is reel schematic.com. Also check the manufacturer's websites - for vintage reels, ORCAonline.org (membership required) has a good database
Looks like line was just catching in the shaft as it tried to rotate. Could be wrong just looked like it.
You were right - Broken line
I hate intermittent problems no mater what kind of equipment you work on, then to make it worse, when you get it operating properly but don't know what you did. It can happen on anything mechanical , from something to a boiler that heats a large hospital or something even bigger
Those problems are so testy. I have a Shimano lever drag on my bench that comes and goes. UGGGGH! It usually comes down to aa minor part just out of tolerance. Perseverance and a sense of humor usually prevail!
The gears in this reel looks like the gears from a mechanic 1960 Swiss watch. Very small with tiny groves. Fragile I would say. Not my reel.
These reels have a pretty good reputation for durability, but the main gear does wear - thanks for the note - Dennis
Lol keep the grease off your left hand as you hold t with your right hand
I get used to it! Thanks