If you keep the rear suspension softer, it’ll grip like a beast. I have steeda sport/koni str.t combo and can also recommend the Whiteline upper and lower control arms and their panhard rod with support! Zero axle hop and it sticks like glue while cornering under full throttle and out of the hole. Dude, no traction control/advance track needed! You can throw it into corners and it blasts out of them like a demon. Sucker stays glued with stock Pzeros.
I had a 2000 Mustang GT, also manual, also with full bolt-ons. My best quarter-mile run at the track in the Florida heat was 13.99 which was achieved only after someone recommended reducing my rear tire pressures to 14 PSI to ensure better traction. My next fastest time was with a passenger who was my daughter-in-law (weight about 120 pounds) helping with the traction also. The reduced tire pressures worked the best - I believe I had drag radials at the time which are street-legal.
I’m 26 and looking at getting a fox body or new edge after I sell my motorcycle lol, it’ll be my first manual car but I’m assuming shifting gears in a car are similar to motorcycles so it’ll be a good switch but not lightning fast like my 03’ R1 lol
Only thing you need now is the upper intake manifold from the Ford F150. Also go for some 410 gears. And try to not dump the clutch when you takeoff launch it has about 2500 to 3000 RPM. He will improve your times drastically.
Honestly I don't like new age mustangs for their speed because let's be honest unless you supercharged them they are not race cars. I love them because those two valves sound awesome with upgraded exhausts, and when you get the manual version they are so much fun to drive. There are also so many appearance mods you can do to these cars to make them look so cool. They may not be everyone's first choice when they think of mustangs but in my opinion these are definitely one of the best mustangs you can buy for a daily.
I had 2000 gt with full bolt on and got the 12s we see you learning....better tire's and heat them up and come off the line like reg take off then get on it... And you will be fine for street racing for wt you got
I also have 315s on my 2004 GT and still struggle immensely with traction especially in 1st, but also spin a bit in second. It's not just you! These stick shift cars are difficult to master!
My 2002 almost stock exepted gear 3.90 ,underdrive pully,exhaust ,no longtube,plenium ,short throw shifter ,tune,with drag radial ... it run 13.45 @103mph You cant do quicker than that with long tube and driver skill and some drag radial ..btw nice car have fun 🤟
The car isn’t crammed. Any aftermarket cams for the PI cars have a noticeable lope to them. If the person sold it to you and claimed it had bigger cams, you need to get some money back. Not bashing you at all. I have just had cammed 2V cars and been around many cammed Modular’s. We don’t get any real higher lift cams, they are all bigger duration. That makes them lopey. I get learning on the new edge manual. Doing pretty well starting out. It is great to learn on such a manual input car. The clutch is still manually operated. The shifter is directly into the transmission, no sloppy weak linkages. You can feather the clutch a bit with the cable operated cars, not so much with a hydraulic clutch. Helps on those launches, just don’t ride the heck out of the clutch. Find out if you have an upgraded short throw shifter with positive shift stops, like a Pro 5.0or Steeda. Those definitely save your transmission from damage on most bad shifts and actually help you go from 2 to 3. I would suggest dyno running the car to see what it makes and where it makes it. Typically the stock PI lower intake chokes the car at about 5600 RPM. Once you see where the car is making power you can know when best to shift. For instance the stock intakes choke the car about 5500 RPM and after 5700 the hp falls off. So at 5500 I would no lift shift it for 2nd and 3rd if you have one of those previously mentioned shifters. Not just the handle, the actual shifter with the shift stops. Also, best place to hash this thing out is the track. It will launch a tad better there and aid in you consistency.
You can definitely get it faster for sure with better suspension. I’m on a 285 Bridgestone re71r with upgraded suspension and a maximum motor sports panhard bar and I run mid to low 5 5s
What was the outside temperature when you ran it? My 03 GT has stock suspension (but has orange Koni struts and shocks). Factory air box, larger TB, steeda under drive pulleys, Breenspeed 93 tune, stock gears 3.31, steeda short shifter, racing seats, SR mufflers only, stock exhaust, and SVT cobra wheels like you but 275-40. On a 70 degree day at sea level my draggy does 5.8 consistently to 60 mph. I have the heavy Mach 1000 sound system in the trunk. Engine has 132k miles on it.
They're very accurate I tested mine against a drag strip it showed 11.77 to the drag strip 11.76 and mph was about half a mph high on the draggy I consider that pretty damn accurate.
Are cams considered bolt-ons now? 😁 I think your launches were pretty decent toward the end - I think the biggest opportunity for improvement would be quicker shifting.
14.40s ain't bad on the street but the trap speed seems little low. What was the da? Shifting needs some improvement obviously the important thing is that you're improving that is what matters. Stay with it. We all had to start somewhere.
Hey man we were all there at one point. It's all about getting better. I threw an mgw shifter with the race handle in mine and I absolutely love it. Talk about bagging gears now
I have an auto 2001 gt, 4.10 gears, cold air intake, bbk throttle body and a flowmaster catback exhaust. Even with auto I still have a ton of fun. With Manuel i bet you really enjoy it.
Nope, i know for a fact that a CAI n throttle body n plenum do gain hp n acceleration, especially with cams n headers.. If boosting it, might as well just leave it all stock n let it chug..
@@P71ScrewHead the power comes from the tune, those mods, after 20 plus years in mustang. I'm sure you don't have a special one that bolts ons work on and the other 120k gt's made they don't.
You do understand that time was achieved in optimal conditions with a professional driver right? This is a manual trans car trying to do 0-60 on the street with a non professional driver. People frankly put too much stock into 0-60. 60-130 and quarter mile trap speed tells alot more. 0-60 is all about traction just like 60 foot is.
New edge maybe slow but is a hell of a fun car, and you can work on them and learn a lot. There's a reason it outsold the twins GM. Mustang GT looks good 😉
Unfortunately the 2V and 3V are obsolete platforms. Sure, you can go all out and make crazy power, but you can't do it on a stock block or rotating assembly. They're good for cruising around and having fun, but that's about it. They're basically classic cars at this point. Unless you Coyote swap it... then 1000HP on a stock block... From a performance standpoint, they're trash, from a car guy standpoint, they're cool cars you can have fun with, but don't expect to win a lot of races.
God almighty put some factory seats in it. Get rid of all that pink crap. Then you’ll be solid. SHIFT the car. Holy god. EDIT lol didn’t know you just learned to drive!
Yea i agree that's terrible traction. Ford just messed it up like they always do . i have a 2008 gt and it's the same i even have 3:73 gears with 345s in the rear and still get no traction. 6.6 0-60 that's sad. Ford doesn't do a good job on the mustang every year i see videos of things owners hate about there mustang. When i had my camaro i never had any problems over power or traction. Can't wait to sell this .
Mustangs sell as much as sex does, anything before the Coyote didn't get expensive internals like seen today.. Why?? Bcuz they sell so many as is.. I'm a 2v guy myself, the block can handle power, the twig rods can't..
Here's the thing, I hate the ridiculousness of finding older cars(nice cars) and trying to diminish their relevance. I'm not saying that's what you're doing here but many people do it. Respect a car for what it is, none of us are taking our cars to Nurburgring or Laguna Seca 2 twice a week. Cars are about legacy, prestige, history; speed is important but not as.
As someone who owned a full bolt on GT in the past, if you're looking for speed, look elsewhere... Modern 6 cylinder cars can smoke a full bolt on new edge GT. Go 5.0 or cobra or go home.
i disagree, a bolt on 2v can perform n be fast, dude's missing heads, a TrickFlow top end kit would smoke plenty ppl, gotta know what to spend on, also times depend on what state he's in, here in HTX times are consistent with dealer's claims..
@@P71ScrewHead Heads, cams, etc, are not bolt ons... You're getting into major engine work, and if you're going to spend that on a 2v, again, there are much better applications to spend that money on....
@@coryboy345 your 1st sentence is debatable.. n yes i agree there will always be better engines to mod, like a 632ci bbc/bbf that makes up to 1k hp n/a n gets 4 gallons per mile..lol
Well in a dumb world where teenagers can make millions on the internet and buy whatever they want then yes a new age mustang is going to be "slow". The late 90s early 2000s were a better simpler time.
I used to do high 14s on my 98 gt full stock the problem with those mustangs are more heavier plus you dont knoe how to race i could tell yur shifting to early dont knoe how to lunch i would off have done high 13s easy 🤨
If you keep the rear suspension softer, it’ll grip like a beast. I have steeda sport/koni str.t combo and can also recommend the Whiteline upper and lower control arms and their panhard rod with support! Zero axle hop and it sticks like glue while cornering under full throttle and out of the hole. Dude, no traction control/advance track needed! You can throw it into corners and it blasts out of them like a demon. Sucker stays glued with stock Pzeros.
You mentioned cams, Stock cams….
Better tires and rear suspension mods would help with traction..
Nice car nice channel name!!😂😂
Awesome build almost exactly what I wanted to do with mine. Only thing missing is under drive pulleys and 373 gears
I had a 2000 Mustang GT, also manual, also with full bolt-ons. My best quarter-mile run at the track in the Florida heat was 13.99 which was achieved only after someone recommended reducing my rear tire pressures to 14 PSI to ensure better traction. My next fastest time was with a passenger who was my daughter-in-law (weight about 120 pounds) helping with the traction also. The reduced tire pressures worked the best - I believe I had drag radials at the time which are street-legal.
I need radials , my car will go 13.1 with slicks but with these sumitomo tires just spin in 1st 285s would love to get the 315s on
Sounds & looks very nice! I bought my ‘04 gt two years ago to learn stick also, I’m 26 y.o haha never too late to learn stick
I’m 26 and looking at getting a fox body or new edge after I sell my motorcycle lol, it’ll be my first manual car but I’m assuming shifting gears in a car are similar to motorcycles so it’ll be a good switch but not lightning fast like my 03’ R1 lol
Good times, I can see where you'll do even better with more stick experience. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching!
Only thing you need now is the upper intake manifold from the Ford F150. Also go for some 410 gears. And try to not dump the clutch when you takeoff launch it has about 2500 to 3000 RPM. He will improve your times drastically.
The 315s look small for some reason
Mine look like that too on video. It’s weird but they are fat in person.
Honestly I don't like new age mustangs for their speed because let's be honest unless you supercharged them they are not race cars. I love them because those two valves sound awesome with upgraded exhausts, and when you get the manual version they are so much fun to drive. There are also so many appearance mods you can do to these cars to make them look so cool. They may not be everyone's first choice when they think of mustangs but in my opinion these are definitely one of the best mustangs you can buy for a daily.
Well said!
I had 2000 gt with full bolt on and got the 12s we see you learning....better tire's and heat them up and come off the line like reg take off then get on it... And you will be fine for street racing for wt you got
That’s awesome! Sounds like you’ve got the launching down, Thanks for watching!
Man that thing sounds fantastic
I also have 315s on my 2004 GT and still struggle immensely with traction especially in 1st, but also spin a bit in second. It's not just you! These stick shift cars are difficult to master!
315/35-17 Toyo TQ dragradials on 17x10.5 are massive get those!!!!!
My 2002 almost stock exepted gear 3.90 ,underdrive pully,exhaust ,no longtube,plenium ,short throw shifter ,tune,with drag radial ... it run 13.45 @103mph
You cant do quicker than that with long tube and driver skill and some drag radial ..btw nice car have fun 🤟
Lol
Almost stock, proceeds to drop $6k worth of parts intalled
The car isn’t crammed. Any aftermarket cams for the PI cars have a noticeable lope to them. If the person sold it to you and claimed it had bigger cams, you need to get some money back. Not bashing you at all. I have just had cammed 2V cars and been around many cammed Modular’s. We don’t get any real higher lift cams, they are all bigger duration. That makes them lopey.
I get learning on the new edge manual. Doing pretty well starting out. It is great to learn on such a manual input car. The clutch is still manually operated. The shifter is directly into the transmission, no sloppy weak linkages. You can feather the clutch a bit with the cable operated cars, not so much with a hydraulic clutch. Helps on those launches, just don’t ride the heck out of the clutch. Find out if you have an upgraded short throw shifter with positive shift stops, like a Pro 5.0or Steeda. Those definitely save your transmission from damage on most bad shifts and actually help you go from 2 to 3.
I would suggest dyno running the car to see what it makes and where it makes it. Typically the stock PI lower intake chokes the car at about 5600 RPM. Once you see where the car is making power you can know when best to shift. For instance the stock intakes choke the car about 5500 RPM and after 5700 the hp falls off. So at 5500 I would no lift shift it for 2nd and 3rd if you have one of those previously mentioned shifters. Not just the handle, the actual shifter with the shift stops. Also, best place to hash this thing out is the track. It will launch a tad better there and aid in you consistency.
You can definitely get it faster for sure with better suspension. I’m on a 285 Bridgestone re71r with upgraded suspension and a maximum motor sports panhard bar and I run mid to low 5 5s
Good to know, thanks for watching! Driver mod will help a ton too once I get it down 😂
What was the outside temperature when you ran it? My 03 GT has stock suspension (but has orange Koni struts and shocks). Factory air box, larger TB, steeda under drive pulleys, Breenspeed 93 tune, stock gears 3.31, steeda short shifter, racing seats, SR mufflers only, stock exhaust, and SVT cobra wheels like you but 275-40. On a 70 degree day at sea level my draggy does 5.8 consistently to 60 mph. I have the heavy Mach 1000 sound system in the trunk. Engine has 132k miles on it.
Definitely need to soften up your rear and need some Mickey Thompson 17" BBK intake and Throttle Body Edelbrock injector kit and some headers
Might have had better launches if you put some heat in the tires before launch.
I need to get me a dragy. I never got times with my n/a setup it’s always had 4.10s now it’s supercharged with 4.10s
They're very accurate I tested mine against a drag strip it showed 11.77 to the drag strip 11.76 and mph was about half a mph high on the draggy I consider that pretty damn accurate.
Just saw this good launches just wondering do you have a performance clutch?
what tires are you running? Try toyo proxes r888r or nitto nt05r
Are cams considered bolt-ons now? 😁 I think your launches were pretty decent toward the end - I think the biggest opportunity for improvement would be quicker shifting.
Does it have stock gears stock diff?
also dump the clutch above 3k no traction control
14.40s ain't bad on the street but the trap speed seems little low. What was the da? Shifting needs some improvement obviously the important thing is that you're improving that is what matters. Stay with it. We all had to start somewhere.
The Jetsons called. They want their seats back.
Yea could definitely use a driver mod but we all had to learn
I appreciate that, we’re not all born race car drivers 😂
Hey man we were all there at one point. It's all about getting better. I threw an mgw shifter with the race handle in mine and I absolutely love it. Talk about bagging gears now
Nice pulls 😸🤙 My Terminator hits 60mph as soon as you get into second. Impressive pulls though. ☺️
Thank you! Gotta work on getting traction hopefully can get some more practice at the drag strip soon
great pulls on a great car!
Thank you! I have to practice launching it, will hope to get it on the drag strip soon
Yo how much did it cost to put those injectors on?
Nice job thanks
How u get the back shots 😮
car sounds really good
I have an auto 2001 gt, 4.10 gears, cold air intake, bbk throttle body and a flowmaster catback exhaust. Even with auto I still have a ton of fun. With Manuel i bet you really enjoy it.
It’s a blast for sure, as long as you don’t mind a heavy clutch
the only thing that added power was cams and headers the intake plenum and throttle body are good for boost but n/a they are useless.
Nope, i know for a fact that a CAI n throttle body n plenum do gain hp n acceleration, especially with cams n headers.. If boosting it, might as well just leave it all stock n let it chug..
@@P71ScrewHead I have Cai, throttle and plenum not boosted it didn't add anything.
@@Himothy474 ok, but did you tune it?? i know for a fact acceleration improves with those mods..
@@P71ScrewHead the power comes from the tune, those mods, after 20 plus years in mustang. I'm sure you don't have a special one that bolts ons work on and the other 120k gt's made they don't.
@@Himothy474 it's been dyno proven to work n make more power, it's simple math..
What type of seats are those?
Clay bar and some wax or polish on that hood. Other than that, great looking car.
That is terribly slow. I remember back in the day they said 99-04 GT runs 5.8 secs 0-60 but apparently after 20 years, it lost some time.
Sorry man, but I think the terrible driver is what’s causing the time to be so slow 😂
You do understand that time was achieved in optimal conditions with a professional driver right? This is a manual trans car trying to do 0-60 on the street with a non professional driver. People frankly put too much stock into 0-60. 60-130 and quarter mile trap speed tells alot more. 0-60 is all about traction just like 60 foot is.
Stock gearing?
Clean asf
And the 1/4? What time without stop
Shave a half second getting the shifts down, at least a half
hell yeah that was sick
Thanks for watching!
I seen a gt do 760 horsepower build like yours it was a 1999 gt the owner was local racer
Thats what a Mustang is supposed to sound like :)
New edge maybe slow but is a hell of a fun car, and you can work on them and learn a lot. There's a reason it outsold the twins GM. Mustang GT looks good 😉
You have better traction than you think.
Stock edges should be an easy 11.9 in the 1000ft.
How do bolt on cam
Looks fast bro I'ma get a gt mustang let's go
Do it! They are so fun
Where you got thoses seat covers
They are tmi seats, cj pony parts has them
Bro why no 1/4 mile?
What is full bolt on ?
Basically any power adder other than a turbo or supercharger, so bigger injectors, cold air intake, cams, exhaust etc.. thanks for watching!
@@cobracarlos ohhhhh okay bet
Unfortunately the 2V and 3V are obsolete platforms. Sure, you can go all out and make crazy power, but you can't do it on a stock block or rotating assembly. They're good for cruising around and having fun, but that's about it. They're basically classic cars at this point. Unless you Coyote swap it... then 1000HP on a stock block...
From a performance standpoint, they're trash, from a car guy standpoint, they're cool cars you can have fun with, but don't expect to win a lot of races.
God almighty put some factory seats in it. Get rid of all that pink crap. Then you’ll be solid. SHIFT the car. Holy god. EDIT lol didn’t know you just learned to drive!
I actually LOVE the way these seats look, to each their own though 🤷🏻
Looks like you have a Eibach rear sway bar
Them shifts are straight granny shifts
😂😂😂
Yea i agree that's terrible traction. Ford just messed it up like they always do . i have a 2008 gt and it's the same i even have 3:73 gears with 345s in the rear and still get no traction. 6.6 0-60 that's sad. Ford doesn't do a good job on the mustang every year i see videos of things owners hate about there mustang. When i had my camaro i never had any problems over power or traction. Can't wait to sell this .
Mustangs sell as much as sex does, anything before the Coyote didn't get expensive internals like seen today.. Why?? Bcuz they sell so many as is.. I'm a 2v guy myself, the block can handle power, the twig rods can't..
I ran a 9.6 in the 1/8 mile in my stock gt
Da can swing times wildly and running on the street is a totally different animal from the track. I assume your run was done at the drag strip?
Answer not very. I love the new edge but modern minivans and pickups will hurt its feelings.
But which is more fun to drive?
You also have underdrive pulleys…Nice runs..
Thank you! Practice makes perfect 😂
i own a p71 with a 4.6 no bolt ons yet
Enjoy it! And thanks for watching
nice
Here's the thing, I hate the ridiculousness of finding older cars(nice cars) and trying to diminish their relevance. I'm not saying that's what you're doing here but many people do it. Respect a car for what it is, none of us are taking our cars to Nurburgring or Laguna Seca 2 twice a week. Cars are about legacy, prestige, history; speed is important but not as.
Definitely! There’s always going to be something faster that’s not what it’s about
i ran 15.3 at the 1/4 275 mickeys broke my rear end
14.2 before it broke
@@datdangstang i run 15.3s in my 09 P71 with just longtubes n open cutouts..lol
I'm not being a hater, but you could grow a beard between those shifts
😂😂😂 it is what it is
Did you fall asleep at the wheel.
pretty sure cams are not part of the "full bolt on" parts. still slower than my stock 99 ss camaro
2vs stop making power after 4400rpm they DESPERATELY need aftermarket cams
They ain’t no 315s on the back of that Mustang
Needs a better mod behind the steering wheel. 🙄
You got that right
Man get some better tires and rev the car to about 3-3.5k rpm, mine ran mid 8s in the 1/8
I think it’s the driver in this case! 😂
Those don’t look like 315s mine are 295s and they look bigger😭 not hate tho!
Yea probably depends on the wheels and stance too
@@cobracarlos yea got black rovos on mine
hell i wanted to see the 1/4 time
Same.. I need to find a longer stretch of road
@@cobracarlos i feel that its hard to do in some places.
@@Notaws6 yea I just got the dragy not to long ago so gonna have to find some good spots to run it, or just take it to the track
As someone who owned a full bolt on GT in the past, if you're looking for speed, look elsewhere... Modern 6 cylinder cars can smoke a full bolt on new edge GT. Go 5.0 or cobra or go home.
i disagree, a bolt on 2v can perform n be fast, dude's missing heads, a TrickFlow top end kit would smoke plenty ppl, gotta know what to spend on, also times depend on what state he's in, here in HTX times are consistent with dealer's claims..
@@P71ScrewHead Heads, cams, etc, are not bolt ons... You're getting into major engine work, and if you're going to spend that on a 2v, again, there are much better applications to spend that money on....
@@coryboy345 your 1st sentence is debatable.. n yes i agree there will always be better engines to mod, like a 632ci bbc/bbf that makes up to 1k hp n/a n gets 4 gallons per mile..lol
Rev it a littlw man
My Mustang GT 2002, not very fast, even for a V8.
Do you have any mods done to it?
@@cobracarlos I don't have it anymore, but no. I do like Mustangs.
Gears and a tune really help these cars to have a little more pep to em 410s or 373 best decision I did to my 02
@@4nlover635 What are you expecting from a fleet sold engine (cheap to put together n that'll last forever) that's tiny in the v8 world??
@@P71ScrewHead I was young.
Had an 03 gt full Bolton's and slow lol
You row boats dude.
My 03 is faster
Anything bigger than 295 is just for looks
If you say so, I think it looks great with the 315s though
@@cobracarlos i'm 345 in the back of my 09 P71..lol
My Avalon is faster than that! SMH.
yea its slow but super fun to drive
It’s super slow
yup
Well in a dumb world where teenagers can make millions on the internet and buy whatever they want then yes a new age mustang is going to be "slow". The late 90s early 2000s were a better simpler time.
Moostang
Pony cars aren't meant to be super fast.
Draggy smh😂
Good try!
I used to do high 14s on my 98 gt full stock the problem with those mustangs are more heavier plus you dont knoe how to race i could tell yur shifting to early dont knoe how to lunch i would off have done high 13s easy 🤨
They are slow but badass